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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
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 Posted - 10/05/2007 : 13:51:38
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The Indians vs. Red Sox brings up maybe my favorite baseball memory. Game 5 of the 1999 playoffs between the Sox and Indians when the injured Pedro Martinez went to the bullpen around the 3rd inning, unexpectedly laced up his cleats, and came in and kept the Indians hitless for something like 6 innings, thus winning the playoff. He was so damn dominant.
[I wouldn't mind seeing Pedro throw down Zimmer a few times, Dave Roberts's steal, and some of Ortiz's 2004 moon-shots. The best thing about 2004 is never having to again see the Curse of Ruth montages.] |
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
3111 Posts |
Posted - 10/05/2007 : 13:53:54
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Originally posted by darwin
The best thing about 2004 is never having to again see the Curse of Ruth montages.
Yeah, but now we see the fucking billy goat and Steve Bartman over and over. It's just as bad.
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
5456 Posts |
Posted - 10/05/2007 : 14:06:10
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Yeah true, but that's not my burden.
If Cub fans want someone to punish, they should go get Dusty Baker for blowing out Mark Prior and Kerry Wood's arms. |
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <
South Sandwich Islands
4204 Posts |
Posted - 10/05/2007 : 14:31:57
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
Ireland
11546 Posts |
Posted - 10/05/2007 : 16:56:59
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I can't contribute diddly-squat to a baseball discussion, but I had to post this:
ajc.com - Braves, Glavine to dance again?
Boss and other new tunes: Spent too much at my buddy Don’s
CD store at Toco Hill shopping center couple days ago, but got
some great stuff including the new Okkervil River and Iron And
Wine CDs, both really, really good.
If you haven’t got it yet (and I’m sure all Boss fans have), I’d
highly recommend the new Springsteen album, “Magic,” which I
think is his best since “Tunnel of Love.” It’s not up to standards
of, say, “The River,” but it’s really, really good.
And I hadn’t heard of this “About a Son” Kurt Cobain movie that’s
coming out, but I got the soundtrack with tuns by everyone from
David Bowie (“The Man Who Sold the World”) and Mark Lanegan
to REM, the Melvins and Arlo Guthrie. Good stuff.
Also got new solo discs by Thurston Moore (from Sonic Youth)
and Black Francis (aka Frank Black, from Pixies). Both are very
strong, and the Black Francis CD is the closest thing he’s done
to hard, raw Pixies rock.
One more thing: if you haven’t heard Mary Gauthier, check her
out online. Really dark, bluesy folk, has two albums out, the
latest just released couple weeks ago produced by brilliant Joe
Henry.
OK, that’s it. Gonna go see “Into The Wild” tonight after watching
some baseball, hopefully. Great reviews for it, everywhere I’ve
seen it reviewed. |
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pixiestu
> Teenager of the Year <
United Kingdom
2564 Posts |
Posted - 10/05/2007 : 18:05:04
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We're in the 11th inning of the NYY vs Cleveland game and it's 2am over here. I want to go to bed, but I also want to see who wins this.
"The arc of triumph" |
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
3111 Posts |
Posted - 10/05/2007 : 21:11:44
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That reminds me of the 2004 American League Championship Series. I was exhausted for days staying up late for those games, and it's two hours earlier here than on the East Coast. But it was worth it, though. It's always worth it when the Yankees lose.
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Superabounder
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1049 Posts |
Posted - 10/05/2007 : 21:57:22
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How great was the fan stealing the out from the Angels which led to the tying run. That kid made a great play. What a perfect night of baseball. Both games won on last at bat. Manny killed that ball to left field.
I'd rather be anywhere or doing anything |
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
5456 Posts |
Posted - 10/06/2007 : 01:21:20
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Superabounder
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1049 Posts |
Posted - 10/06/2007 : 08:14:27
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2 outs...bottom of the ninth...damn it doesn't get better than that. Ortiz and Ramirez. Tough stretch every time around the lineup. How about the relief pitching too. This was perfect October baseball. I LOVE to watch baseball playoffs on TV, especially because I love the commentary and strategy. Delicious.
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Erebus
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1834 Posts |
Posted - 10/06/2007 : 18:53:03
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The poor little Cubbies are out, bastards. Me be elated. Speaking as a Cardinals fan who is all too aware of the allegations of a Cubs-Cards rivalry, the Cubs aren’t worthy to walk on the same continent, let alone the same diamond, as the Cards. They are fully of the cesspool of everything east of the Mississippi and north of the Mason-Dixon. May they, and their fans, wander in the desert without a championship for the next hundred years. Losers.
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Atheist4Catholics
= Cult of Ray =
USA
925 Posts |
Posted - 10/06/2007 : 19:41:18
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Originally posted by Erebus
The poor little Cubbies are out, bastards. Me be elated. Speaking as a Cardinals fan who is all too aware of the allegations of a Cubs-Cards rivalry, the Cubs aren’t worthy to walk on the same continent, let alone the same diamond, as the Cards. They are fully of the cesspool of everything east of the Mississippi and north of the Mason-Dixon. May they, and their fans, wander in the desert without a championship for the next hundred years. Losers.
Other than that, how was the play Mrs. Lincoln?
Will I ever reach 1000?
For more information on rock, visit www.timfranklin.net |
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Atheist4Catholics
= Cult of Ray =
USA
925 Posts |
Posted - 10/06/2007 : 19:43:48
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Originally posted by darwin
That ball had to have hit the parking garage across Lansdowne. I do hate Manny's showboating though. He stood and watched for about 5 seconds. Just run the fucking bases and act like you've been there before.
Will I ever reach 1000?
For more information on rock, visit www.timfranklin.net |
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
3111 Posts |
Posted - 10/06/2007 : 23:31:09
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My boys and I brought brooms to the Rockies game tonight. What a great game, and what a win for a team that has come out of nowhere to look like baseball's most dominating team at the moment. May the run continue. This is fun.
Please pardon me, for these my wrongs. |
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Jefrey
= Cult of Ray =
USA
918 Posts |
Posted - 10/07/2007 : 00:34:10
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Originally posted by coastline
My boys and I brought brooms to the Rockies game tonight. What a great game, and what a win for a team that has come out of nowhere to look like baseball's most dominating team at the moment. May the run continue. This is fun.
Please pardon me, for these my wrongs.
The fun is over. Now you meet Byrnsie head on. He's just too much to handle, with his bat in hand even in the dugout and all.
Qu'ils aillent se faire foutre <-- yeah, what he said. |
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
5456 Posts |
Posted - 10/07/2007 : 00:45:18
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Rockies vs. Diamondbacks: the battle for second place (that is cool about getting into the game)
Manny showboating: "act like you've been there before". They walked Ortiz to get to him, he's had bad season, been injured for about 6 weeks, and then he wins a playoff game in the bottom of the ninth with a huge blast. I say soak it up. If the Angels don't like it; win a game. Was Papelbon showboating when he went absolutely nuts after the Figgins K? |
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Superabounder
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1049 Posts |
Posted - 10/07/2007 : 07:00:02
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I thought Manny's celebration fit the moment. Still, when he said I need to thank God for all the talent he gave me, I just had to laugh a little bit. Maybe something was lost in translation. So have you heard anything about the fan who set up the tying run? I still am so enthralled about that. Wonder if the team gave him something.
Rockies...that's one hell of a run. What is it something like 16 out of 17 games wins?
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Erebus
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1834 Posts |
Posted - 10/07/2007 : 07:47:46
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Originally posted by Superabounder
I thought Manny's celebration fit the moment. Still, when he said I need to thank God for all the talent he gave me, I just had to laugh a little bit.
I agree about his reaction at the plate just after the ball left his bat. It was all sweet spot so he was the first to know. Just seemed like a natural reaction, not showboating. (I forewent the post-game stuff, per usual.)
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houstonguthrie
- FB Fan -
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Posted - 10/07/2007 : 09:02:58
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As a Houston Astros fan - I really don't want to see Clemens pull one out for the Yankees tonight -
It was the feel good story of the decade in Houston a few years back when Clemens and Pettite came home and took the Stros to the world series
then what did they do? They went back to New York!!! JUDAS!!!!!! |
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
3111 Posts |
Posted - 10/07/2007 : 12:41:44
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Am I the only one who's surprised to learn that Manny Ramirez had never hit a walkoff home run for the Red Sox until the other night? All I can figure is that teams must pitch around him quite a bit in those sorts of situations. Or maybe David Ortiz just ends all the games and never gives Manny a chance.
Please pardon me, for these my wrongs. |
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Atheist4Catholics
= Cult of Ray =
USA
925 Posts |
Posted - 10/07/2007 : 12:44:51
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Originally posted by darwin
Rockies vs. Diamondbacks: the battle for second place (that is cool about getting into the game)
Manny showboating: "act like you've been there before". They walked Ortiz to get to him, he's had bad season, been injured for about 6 weeks, and then he wins a playoff game in the bottom of the ninth with a huge blast. I say soak it up. If the Angels don't like it; win a game. Was Papelbon showboating when he went absolutely nuts after the Figgins K?
I understand the extra importance of the moment, but he stands at home and watches almost every homerun he hits. I feel like that's a lot cockier than Papelbon's outburst of emotion.
Will I ever reach 1000?
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Atheist4Catholics
= Cult of Ray =
USA
925 Posts |
Posted - 10/07/2007 : 12:45:51
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Originally posted by coastline
Am I the only one who's surprised to learn that Manny Ramirez had never hit a walkoff home run for the Red Sox until the other night? All I can figure is that teams must pitch around him quite a bit in those sorts of situations. Or maybe David Ortiz just ends all the games and never gives Manny a chance.
Please pardon me, for these my wrongs.
That surprised me also. He's hit go ahead homeruns in the top of the ninth away and walk off hits that aren't homeruns at home.
Will I ever reach 1000?
For more information on rock, visit www.timfranklin.net |
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
5456 Posts |
Posted - 10/08/2007 : 21:59:06
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Originally posted by darwin
My predictions (with Red Sox bias)
Red Sox over Angels
Indians over Yankees (Carmona and Sabathia will tame the Yankees enough)
Red Sox over Indians
Cubs over Diamondbacks
Phillies over Rockies
Cubs over Phillies (I think Cubs have best NL starting pitching)
Red Sox over Cubs (a shocking prediction from me)
I've been completely right in the AL and completely wrong in the NL. The Indians worry me, but part of all those 2 out hits they're getting is luck. Hopefully, that will go away against the Red Sox. And the Indian bullpen doesn't look that impressive (except for Betancourt). So, hopefully the Sox will run up the pitch counts on Sabathia and Carmona. |
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <
South Sandwich Islands
4204 Posts |
Posted - 10/08/2007 : 22:00:17
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I'm so glad my prediction was wrong. Hopefully Torre will be out and the Yankees can go back to floundering like they did in the early '90s.
Who do you think you are -- Mordecai "Three Finger" Brown? |
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
5456 Posts |
Posted - 10/09/2007 : 08:31:55
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Clemens 2007:
$17 million
17 starts (99 innings)
6-6
That's $57,000 and a bit per out. Well done Yankees. |
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <
South Sandwich Islands
4204 Posts |
Posted - 10/09/2007 : 08:55:43
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Originally posted by darwin
That's $57,000 and a bit per out. Well done Yankees.
How is it that Brian Cashman still has a job? Steinbrenner calls out Torre as the scapegoat, but who is ultimately responsible for:
Randy Johnson
Roger Clemens
Carl Pavano (possibly the worst free agent signing in MLB history)
Johnny Damon
Jason Giambi
Who else am I missing?
Cashman has an unparalelled ability to sign players in the decline of their careers. When he eventually needs a job, I predict he will be hired by Peter Angelos. |
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Jefrey
= Cult of Ray =
USA
918 Posts |
Posted - 10/10/2007 : 00:36:43
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Originally posted by BLT
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Originally posted by darwin
That's $57,000 and a bit per out. Well done Yankees.
How is it that Brian Cashman still has a job? Steinbrenner calls out Torre as the scapegoat, but who is ultimately responsible for:
Randy Johnson
Roger Clemens
Carl Pavano (possibly the worst free agent signing in MLB history)
Johnny Damon
Jason Giambi
Who else am I missing?
Cashman has an unparalelled ability to sign players in the decline of their careers. When he eventually needs a job, I predict he will be hired by Peter Angelos.
I was ready to totally agree with you until Torre played Wang on 3 days rest, which is just stupid.
Cashman should get canned for putting them in that position by having a washed up, old, gimpy pitching staff and no plan to help said pitching staff, but damn.
All that need be said is Cleveland played their 4th pitcher because they had confidence in their pitching staff and their team. Yankees played the desperation card and lost. Torre's fault? I don't know what options he had.
You're probably right that Cashman should take all the blame, but Steinbrenner writes the checks and wanted those old guys. I don't think he can go around blaming his staff for executing his orders.
If he cans Torre, the team will collapse since pretty much the only guy that'll willingly stay is Jeter, who will be pissed, but I can't see him ever leaving the Yankees.
Qu'ils aillent se faire foutre <-- yeah, what he said. |
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Atheist4Catholics
= Cult of Ray =
USA
925 Posts |
Posted - 10/10/2007 : 19:02:35
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Historically, starting a sinker ball pitcher on 3 days rest is an advantage(see Derek Lowe in the 2004 post season). Torre's worst move was sticking with Joba in game two instead of bringing in Mariano in the 8th.
Cashman has done a great job in my opinion. The rookies they brought in this year are really good. If it wasn't for that idiot Steinbrenner sticking his nose in the GM-ing, they wouldn't have many of the bloated contracts they have now.
They'll be competitive next year even if they lose Rivera, Torre, Posada, ARod, and Petite. They still have Cano, Cabrera, Joba, Hughes, Kennedy, etc. Damon will probably have great numbers next season.
Clemens was a complete bust for sure.
Will I ever reach 1000?
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
3111 Posts |
Posted - 10/10/2007 : 19:21:56
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2007 MLB team payrolls, with LCS teams in red. These figures were as of early April.
1. Yankees $195,229,045
2. Red Sox $143,526,214
3. Mets $117,915,819
4. White Sox $109,680,167
5. Angels $109,251,333
6. Dodgers $108,704,524
7. Mariners $106,516,833
8. Cubs $99,937,000
9. Tigers $95,180,369
10. Orioles $95,107,807
11. Giants $90,469,056
12. Cardinals $90,286,823
13. Braves $89,492,685
14. Phillies $89,368,214
15. Astros $87,759,500
16. A's $79,938,369
17. Blue Jays $79,925,600
18. Brewers $71,986,500
19. Twins $71,439,500
20. Reds $69,154,980
21. Rangers $68,818,675
22. Royals $67,366,500
23. Indians $61,673,267
24. Padres $58,235,567
25. Rockies $54,424,000 
26. D'backs $52,067,546
27. Pirates $38,604,500
28. Nationals $37,347,500
29. Marlins $30,507,000
30. Devil Rays $24,124,200
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gyaneshwar
- FB Fan -
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Posted - 10/10/2007 : 19:32:49
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These numbers are absolutely ridiculous.
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I don't want to sell anything, buy anything, or process anything as a career. I don't want to sell anything bought or processed, or buy anything sold or processed, or process anything sold, bought, or processed, or repair anything sold, bought, or processed. You know, as a career, I don't want to do that. |
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
5456 Posts |
Posted - 10/10/2007 : 20:14:14
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Originally posted by Atheist4Catholics
They'll be competitive next year even if they lose Rivera, Torre, Posada, ARod, and Petite. They still have Cano, Cabrera, Joba, Hughes, Kennedy, etc. Damon will probably have great numbers next season.
I don't think they'll tumble down below the Orioles, but if they lose all of those players they're could be battling the Devil Rays for third place (behind the Sox and Blue Jays). They have some good rookie pitching, but counting on 3 of them to fill the rotation seems too optimistic. But, maybe they'll trade for Santana. That would solve a lot, but would probably cost them some of those rookies. I have no idea what free agents will be available.
In the field, Cano and Cabrera are fine players, but not stars. Abreu, Giambi, and Damon are in their declines. I'm biased. I only want the worst for the Yankees, but other than having a lot of revenue, I don't see many good things happening for the Yankees. |
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Steak n Sabre
* Dog in the Sand *
Uzbekistan
1013 Posts |
Posted - 10/11/2007 : 11:44:21
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Did any of us as fans ever believe that teams have to blow cash like a drunken lottery winner to compete? The myth perpetuated by agents and their tools in the media sure fell apart this year. Out of the top 10, only the Mets, Redsox, Angels, and Tigers will not suck next year.
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
3111 Posts |
Posted - 10/11/2007 : 21:16:39
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Am I the only one who's sick of these "Frank TV" commcercials on TBS? They were funny -- even hilarious -- at first, but sheesh. By the time the show comes in November, there's no way I'm going to want to watch it.
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
5456 Posts |
Posted - 10/11/2007 : 23:15:16
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I don't really know who to root for in the NLCS. I don't really care about any of the NL teams, but I root against the Mets. I'll usually root for the oldest team (such as the Pirates over the Marlins) or the team that seems to be the most snakebitten. But, the Rockies and Diamondbacks are both new, so that doesn't work.
But then, the DBack fans (or probably a small drunk/jerk minorty) started throwing junk on the field. So, without much enthusiasm I guess I'm rooting for the Rockies. Plus, the Diamondback stadium seems odd (swimming pool, retractable roof). Coors Field is freakish because of the altitude, but other than that it looks like a baseball stadium. Who am I kidding, I'm just waiting for the ALCS. Even if the Indians beat the Red Sox, I'd probably still root for the Indians in the World Series, unless something odd/upsetting happens in the ALCS. |
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
3111 Posts |
Posted - 10/12/2007 : 06:06:59
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I'll admit, I wasn't crazy about a Rockies-Diamondbacks series myself -- and I'm rabid for my Rockies. Part of the problem is that there aren't really any villains on either team. I used to get pretty worked up over Randy Johnson and Curt Schilling, and even manager Bob Brenly, who is a real cock. But now it's just a bunch of kids, plus El Duque, on the Diamondbacks; and a bunch of kids, plus Todd Helton, on the Rox. I wanna get worked up about Jefrey's big crush, Eric Byrnes, but the fact is, he's fun to watch. So I imagine those of you without a dog in this fight are having a real hard time caring. Last night's game was pretty boring. Hopefully things pick up a little when the series comes to Coors.
Darwin, I can assure you Coors Field is a wonderful ballpark. It's part of that '90s stadium renaissance, modeled as much on Camden Yard as much as anything else. The outside is all brick, and they attached it to an exhisting brick warehouse, which now is a brewpub, where they make their own beer there. (But you can't buy it in the stands. It's all Coors and Bud out there.) There's a gorgeous scoreboard towering over the left-field bleachers, and an old-style, manual scoreboard that forms the right-field wall. The field itself is beautiful -- it was said many times, when the All-Star Game was here, that it was the finest surface in the game. The atmosphere at the ballpark isn't really what it used to be, back when it sold out every game for a couple years, though I think that's returned for the playoffs. That place was electric last Saturday night. Not like Chase Field in Arizona. The radio announcer on the Rockies station said last night, around the second inning, "Folks, it's very quiet here. I don't know any way to describe it other than 'different.'" Tune in Sunday night. We'll have our Metrodome-style homer hankies out in force, and we'll stand up every time our pitchers get two strikes on a batter with two outs. And hopefully the entire eighth and ninth innings. It'll seem like playoff baseball, unlike Chase Field. And we won't be throwing water bottles at the opposing team because an umpire made a questionable call.
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