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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
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 Posted - 10/12/2007 : 08:12:34
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| Not a big fan of hankies, but they beat Thundersticks. |
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <
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Posted - 10/12/2007 : 09:40:26
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Yeah, thundersticks are gay -- at least at baseball parks. I was at a playoff basketball game once, and the effect was, well, thunderous. My kids loved 'em.
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
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Posted - 10/12/2007 : 21:15:23
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Hey, Macaulay Culkin plays for the Diamondbacks.
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <
South Sandwich Islands
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Posted - 10/14/2007 : 06:23:17
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| I'm curious. Who here has the stamina to watch an entire game -- start to finish -- without the aid of Tivo (or any other time compression technology)? Has anyone made a run to the local liquor store or taco stand between pitches? |
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Broken Face
-= Forum Pistolero =-
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Posted - 10/14/2007 : 06:28:10
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Originally posted by BLT
I'm curious. Who here has the stamina to watch an entire game -- start to finish -- without the aid of Tivo (or any other time compression technology)? Has anyone made a run to the local liquor store or taco stand between pitches?
If i am there, i sit and keep score and rarely get up. At home, i usually watch w/ laptop handy, a nice cold beer (last night it was a Sam's Oktoberfest) and some chips and salsa. In fact, i plan on mirroring that tonight.
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
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Posted - 10/14/2007 : 07:46:22
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We'll be at tonight's game -- but I don't think I'll be having a cold beer. It's cold and rainy here this morning, and it's expected to keep up through the day. The weather man says there will likely be a drizzle during the middle innings. Luckily, we're in a covered portion of the stadium, so we'll at least keep dry. And I'm thinking we'll bring a thermos or two full of warm drinks.
I'm with you on the stamina thing, BLT. These games are ridiculously long. Did playoff baseball used to be this long? I fell asleep last night in, I don't know, the seventh or eighth inning. At that point, the game had settled down and nobody was scoring anymore. Next thing I know, I'm waking up and Cleveland has scored a touchdown to go up 13-6. Here's hoping for a 1-0 pitchers' duel tonight.
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
5456 Posts |
Posted - 10/14/2007 : 09:39:09
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| For Sox games I make it all of the way through, but I usually tape the games (because of kids and other obligations) and watch it about 2 hours behind schedule. So, I skip commercials and pitching changes. For the NL I do the same but I do some skipping forward when an inning looks dead like nobody on with 2 outs. I feel asleep during the last NL game and was awoken in the ninth (I went went back and watched the rally). |
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
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Posted - 10/18/2007 : 23:43:24
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| Now the Sox just need 2 at home. It's seems odd that they're now back on the home advantage schedule. I wonder if Beckett will be available for a few innings Sunday night. And I really hope Ellsbury gets some at bats. Fun stuff. |
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
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Posted - 10/19/2007 : 05:36:16
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I've been torn about the ALCS.
A common sentiment in Denver is that we want the Rockies to face the Red Sox because they're the supposedly better team -- or at the very least, they're the biggest deal in baseball other than the Yankees -- because it would give a Rockies win more legitimacy. Plus, the Rox outscored the Sox 20-5 at Fenway earlier this season, losing only a great 2-1 game in the series opener.
Yet I was also hoping last night that the Indians would finish off the series so they'd have a long wait before the World Series, like the Rockies do. I can't help but think about how rusty the Tigers were last year after their six-day wait.
EDIT: I can't believe I just made a post about the Rockies being in the World Series. Just like I'm shocked every time Fox runs that promo about the Series, with the "CR" logo in it. Pinch me.
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Edited by - coastline on 10/19/2007 05:38:09 |
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
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Posted - 10/21/2007 : 21:19:50
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I love them Sox. What a game. I was so nervous when it was 3-2 and Westbrook was shutting down the Sox. It's tough when your team doesn't put up as many runs early as they should. I thought all of those double plays were going look really bad when the Indians came back, but Dustin Pedroia took care of that.
The Rookies won the game. Pedroia, Ellbury, Matasuzaka, and Okajima. |
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
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Posted - 10/21/2007 : 21:24:55
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I can't figure out why Wedge pulled Westbrook. What was his pitch count? Seems to me like he was getting stronger by the inning, and had turned the Sox lineup very quiet, and then he was pulled.
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
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Posted - 10/21/2007 : 21:31:58
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I think he was near 100, but Betancourt and his steroid load had been dominant this series.
I thought Francona was making a mistake when he left Matsuzaka in in the 5th, but it worked out.
What's the weather forecast in Colorado next weekend? |
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
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Posted - 10/21/2007 : 21:48:42
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Gorgeous weather over the weekend -- at least relatively speaking. It'll be in the 60s Saturday, Sunday and Monday, with clear skies. I think it'll be in the mid to high 40s at game time each night. It snowed here today, which is a little more normal for late October, but if the forecast holds, then you'll see our good side next weekend.
Should be a good series. In case you haven't noticed, the Rockies are playing solid ball right now. The streak is a little ridiculous, I recognize, but a lot of it has to do with great pitching and brilliant defense, as much as luck. The Sox, though, are brutes. Beckett, Big Papi, Manny, Youkilis -- yikes. And hopefully there ain't much Papelbon in this series. He looks scary. I'm pretty pumped about the whole thing. I'm also sick of waiting. This layoff has been ridiculous.
Go Rox.
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
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Posted - 10/21/2007 : 22:11:22
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Little Black Francis
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Posted - 10/21/2007 : 22:19:30
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <
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Posted - 10/22/2007 : 15:58:19
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The Red Sox are a 2-1 favorite to beat the Rockies in the World Series. That's just ignorant.
Here's an analysis of the Series from the point of view of a Rockies fan. God knows you're not going to find that in the national sports media. It's Red Sox this, Red Sox that. They're good, of course, but the coverage has been wicked biased. Here's how I see the matchup:
Starting pitching: Even. Jeff Francis can hang with Josh Beckett. You just don't know Francis because the Rockies are never on TV (before midnight, that is). I don't think the Rockies are worried about Beckett, either. When he was 9-0 in June, they torched him for six runs and his first loss. (Francis got the win, 7-1.) After the aces, I like Ubaldo Jimenez to beat whoever goes second for the Sox -- Wakefield or Schilling. Those guys are spotty, and I'm not just talking about Schilling's sock. And Josh Fogg will have another great game for the Rockies. Or he'll at least hold the game tight for the bullpen.
Bullpens: Advantage Rockies. "Papelgod" throws hard and has a hard stare. Manny Corpas throws just as hard, and is even more fearless. He's also hot right now. In the eighth inning, I like Brian Fuentes. He's an all-star closer turned setup man -- he lost his job to Corpas when he got injured in July. They've been a ruthless one-two punch.
Hitting: Advantage Red Sox. I'm not even going to pretend anyone on the Rockies can hang with Manny and Big Papi. Those guys are scary. Matt Holliday is getting there, but I don't see him having a crazy hot streak like Manny or Ortiz could have. Ortiz flicks that bat like it's a toothpick. He is a monster. The Rockies do have a solid lineup from top to bottom, and during the streak, they've had a different hero every night. Still, the Sox have Youkilis, Lowell, Varitek ... and those rookies who got it done last night. The Rox will have to keep the magic going to hang with the Sox at the plate. Then again, during the playoffs, big bats have gone awfully silent against the Rockies' starters. Just ask Ryan Howard.
Defense: Rockies all the way. Best fielding percentage in MLB history this year. Troy Tulowitzki should win a Gold Glove at short this year, in addition to deserving the Rookie of the Year. Todd Helton has a bunch of Gold Gloves at first. Willy Taveras covers tons of ground in center. Brad Hawpe has a gun in right field. And these guys don't just not make mistakes, but they make amazing plays. Witness the 360 move by Tulo on all the Fox promos. I was there for the double play. It was fucking amazing. And he doesn't drop balls like Julio Lugo. Is Lugo really a major-league shortstop?
Intangibles: The Red Sox have the fear factor. They have the fans. (I'm going to hoot and holler for my Rox Sunday night at Coors Field, but I do worry that the Red Sox Nation is going to be out in force and make just as much noise.) They have the best pitcher. In a way, they have momentum -- that comeback against Cleveland trumps the Rockies streak, considering the eight-day layoff. However, the Rockies are playing the most solid baseball imaginable. They don't make mistakes -- perfect on defense, smart on the bases, smart at the plate. The Red Sox are a bit sloppy. Their brand of baseball is powerful, but not that graceful. They hope to smash out more runs than their opponent and strike out more guys. That style of baseball is more susceptible to going cold than is the Rockies'. I give the intangibles edge to the Rox. I see too many holes in the Red Sox, despite their greatness.
Again, this is a biased analysis, straight from a Rockies fan who counted them out a month and a half ago, when they couldn't win series against teams like Pittsburgh and Florida -- at home. But something magical is happening, and this time I refuse to count them out until it's over.
I won't make a prediction, but I do think Boston's 2-1 advantage is ridiculous.
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
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Posted - 10/22/2007 : 16:08:51
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"Starting pitching: Even. Jeff Francis can hang with Josh Beckett."
I got this far. You're nuts. The only pitchers in MLB in Beckett's range are Peavy and Santana. Maybe I'm forgetting someone, but Francis is a fine pitcher, but hardly an Ace. |
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
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Posted - 10/22/2007 : 16:22:22
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Originally posted by coastline The Red Sox are a bit sloppy. Their brand of baseball is powerful, but not that graceful. They hope to smash out more runs than their opponent and strike out more guys. That style of baseball is more susceptible to going cold than is the Rockies'.
The Red Sox had the lowest team ERA in the AL. Lowell is a gold glove level 3B. Crisp may be the best defensive CF in MLB. Pedroia is a pretty slick 2B. And until the playoffs Youkalis hadn't made a single error at 1B. Also, I think the Red Sox had the best stolen base % in MLB. So, the Red Sox aren't just a bash the ball team.
But, I'm glad you're a Rox fan. Last time the World Series against the Cardinals felt like a let down, I think because the series against the Yankees was so epic. This time it feels also like a bigger deal. I'm there's some uncertainty.
I don't think your pitching is going to look so good when it faces AL hitting. |
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
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Posted - 10/22/2007 : 17:04:07
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If it weren't for the way the Rockies shut down the Phillies' lineup, I'd be a bit more worried about how the Rockies' pitchers will do against Boston. And the thing is, the Red Sox have lost 70 games this year. The Rockies have lost 72. It's not David vs. Goliath. That's the myth I'd like to debunk. Like I think you are saying re "uncertainty," this has the potential to be a good series.
And I said Francis can hang with Beckett. I didn't say he's better.
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <
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Posted - 10/22/2007 : 17:07:11
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Originally posted by darwin
[I don't think your pitching is going to look so good when it faces AL hitting.
Rockies' record the last two years in interleague play: 21-12. The AL isn't that intimidating, darwin.
Please pardon me, for these my wrongs. |
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
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Posted - 10/22/2007 : 17:42:51
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I don't think the wins and losses say much, but the Red Sox have won 103 games and the Rockies 97. And the Red Sox were playing AL teams who on average are much better than NL teams (AL 137 wins, NL 115 wins). This year the Rockies were 10-8 in interleague and the Red Sox 12-6, but it was against different teams.
My prediction: Red Sox in 6 games. I think Francis is equivalent to Schilling and Wakefield. (/trash talk) Fogg is equivalent to Tavarez (who probably won't be on the Red Sox roster). The Red Sox may lose Ortiz's bat when at Coors because I don't know if they can risk his knee by playing 1b. |
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
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Posted - 10/22/2007 : 17:48:25
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Tavarez is a nutcase. He came up with the Rockies, and was great for a couple months, but it was obviously a fluke. He's a liability when he's on the mound, at least as I remember him.
Are you kidding about sitting Ortiz a Coors? Hell, if that happens, I'd put money on the Rox!
Please pardon me, for these my wrongs. |
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
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Posted - 10/22/2007 : 18:09:15
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| Tavarez came up with the Indians. He and Manny were housemates in the minor leagues. He had some quality starts for the Sox, but probably won't be on the WS roster, unless Gagne is dropped. He is a nut. This season he rolled a ball to first base instead of throwing it. He had plenty of time. Just decided to roll it. |
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
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Posted - 10/22/2007 : 18:31:46
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Boy, I remembered him as being a youngun when he appeared for the Rockies. I guess he just acted that way. He liked to watch Scooby Doo before each of his starts -- he thought it helped with his English.
Please pardon me, for these my wrongs. |
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <
South Sandwich Islands
4204 Posts |
Posted - 10/22/2007 : 21:51:01
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
5456 Posts |
Posted - 10/23/2007 : 01:17:26
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| Hey BLT, at least one Oriole made the LCS when Millar threw out the first pitch for game 7. I wonder if that'll upset the Orioles to see Millar hanging out with the Red Sox. |
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <
South Sandwich Islands
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Posted - 10/23/2007 : 08:45:44
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Originally posted by darwin
Hey BLT, at least one Oriole made the LCS when Millar threw out the first pitch for game 7. I wonder if that'll upset the Orioles to see Millar hanging out with the Red Sox.
Dan Patrick was talking about that on his radio show this morning. Apparently the O's gave him permission to do it but some fans are still upset (naturally). I wonder how Indians fans would feel if Trot Nixon threw out the first pitch tomorrow in Boston. It's the same situation. Or how about the reactions of Yankee fans if Johnny Damon did it? |
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Erebus
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 10/23/2007 : 13:42:53
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Originally posted by BLT
I hope it snows like hell in Denver.
Me too. I'd like to see the series postponed to next March, leading MLB to return to the 148 game schedule, complete with elimination of the divisional playoff series, the all star game, inter-league play, and the DH. Baseball should restructure to only two larger divisions per league, and admit only champions to the playoffs. The Wild Card is an abomination, largely driven by TV ratings greed, which puts the September emphasis upon season-long second rate teams who by virtue of late-season hotness have a disproportionate chance of triumphing in the playoffs over teams that deserve greater credit for having proven themselves over the course of the entire season.
So, I'm pulling for weeks of cold fronts through the Rockies.
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
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Posted - 10/23/2007 : 13:59:22
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| Enough snow storms and maybe Beckett will start 4 games. Wakefield has been dropped from the Red Sox WS roster, not good news for the Red Sox, and Lester will probably get his start. |
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
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Posted - 10/23/2007 : 14:46:04
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Originally posted by Erebus
I'd like to see ... MLB ... eliminat[e] ... the DH.
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Edited by - coastline on 10/23/2007 14:46:41 |
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <
South Sandwich Islands
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Posted - 10/24/2007 : 09:00:45
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| Wow, there's already a game tonight. I'm surprised. That's a little hasty by MLB standards. Are they sure they want to rush right into the World Series like that? |
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
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Posted - 10/24/2007 : 09:43:26
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Tonight I have to coach soccer and then attend a meeting about coaching soccer. I don't like my odds of getting through both of those without someone blurting out the score. Then tomorrow night I have to attend a "Poetry Slam" for 4-6 graders. This parenthood stuff blows.
Go Sox! |
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <
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Posted - 10/24/2007 : 12:28:34
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Originally posted by BLT
Wow, there's already a game tonight. I'm surprised. That's a little hasty by MLB standards. Are they sure they want to rush right into the World Series like that?
Are you joking? Todd Helton has retired already, the wait was so long since the Rockies finished off the NLCS.
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
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Posted - 10/24/2007 : 13:08:16
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Nate Silver at Baseball Prospectus on the World Series matchup. He does the full quantitative thing, which some will probably like and some will probably hate. The main thing I took away from it is the Rockies throw a lot of breaking balls and question will be will the Red Sox chase them.
http://baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=6871 |
Edited by - darwin on 10/24/2007 14:27:05 |
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <
South Sandwich Islands
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Posted - 10/24/2007 : 14:12:05
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Originally posted by coastline
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Originally posted by BLT
Wow, there's already a game tonight. I'm surprised. That's a little hasty by MLB standards. Are they sure they want to rush right into the World Series like that?
Are you joking? Todd Helton has retired already, the wait was so long since the Rockies finished off the NLCS.
I never joke. I'm genuinely concerned that MLB may be moving too fast when they dive into this World Series so suddenly. The playoffs have moved at such a whirlwind pace. It's certainly not for the squeamish! |
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