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The Maharal
= Cult of Ray =

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Posted - 07/19/2012 :  09:40:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I would say peach. I suppose the mountains are orange..
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billgoodman
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Netherlands
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Posted - 07/19/2012 :  10:17:18  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by onyone

Why album call orange? Forgive me not understand but isn't album yellow color?



This reminds me of a long thread from years and years ago!

Ahhh, good times

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billgoodman
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Netherlands
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Posted - 07/19/2012 :  10:18:01  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Cult_Of_Frank

His BEST record?? It may have been a lot better received with some paring down but I don't know if you can put it against Dog in the Sand, Teenager, Orange, or even SMYT.


"If we hit this bullseye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate."



Yeah, well Teenager could do without some songs too, but you're probably right!

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vilainde
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Niue
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Posted - 07/19/2012 :  10:40:54  Show Profile  Visit vilainde's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yeah and the Sixtine Chapel ceiling could do with a bit less paintings too


Denis


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darwin
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USA
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Posted - 07/19/2012 :  15:29:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thou shall not speaking poorly of TOTY.
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Jose Jones
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1758 Posts

Posted - 07/19/2012 :  15:40:06  Show Profile  Visit Jose Jones's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by billgoodman

quote:
Originally posted by Cult_Of_Frank

His BEST record?? It may have been a lot better received with some paring down but I don't know if you can put it against Dog in the Sand, Teenager, Orange, or even SMYT.


"If we hit this bullseye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate."



Yeah, well Teenager could do without some songs too, but you're probably right!

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2 things:
TOTY could not do without some songs. "some songs?!" is that all they are to you? show some goddamn respect, sir.

also, i would (and do) put my edit of FMRM next to SMYT and DitS. they're his 3 most beautiful albums, after all (again, i refer to my 14 song FMRM cut).

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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =

Canada
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Posted - 07/19/2012 :  18:10:19  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hahahaha, Fl... onyone, you do crack me up.


"If we hit this bullseye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate."
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Cult_Of_Frank
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Canada
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Posted - 07/19/2012 :  18:12:02  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage  Reply with Quote
And don't be too hard on billy, he's a good man (see what I did there?) if occasionally really, really wrong.


"If we hit this bullseye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate."
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The Maharal
= Cult of Ray =

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Posted - 07/20/2012 :  03:27:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I agree with billgoodman. Though only one or two songs.
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
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Posted - 07/20/2012 :  07:55:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Heretics
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vilainde
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Niue
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Posted - 07/20/2012 :  08:09:45  Show Profile  Visit vilainde's Homepage  Reply with Quote



Denis


Obsidiana Bijoux
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billgoodman
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Netherlands
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Posted - 07/20/2012 :  21:58:09  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Yeah, well, you take care people!

Teenager is great and all, but I'll take Yellow/Orange, Pistolero, DITS, SMYT and Bluefinger over it any day!

And I don't know why I should respect a record, since word on the street is that FB himself doesn't respect records (A-Z!)

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Edited by - billgoodman on 07/20/2012 22:01:28
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billgoodman
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Netherlands
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Posted - 07/20/2012 :  21:59:39  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by vilainde

Yeah and the Sixtine Chapel ceiling could do with a bit less paintings too


Denis


Obsidiana Bijoux



My point exactly!

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billgoodman
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Netherlands
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Posted - 07/20/2012 :  22:01:07  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Cult_Of_Frank

And don't be too hard on billy, he's a good man (see what I did there?) if occasionally really, really wrong.


"If we hit this bullseye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate."



I would really like some more examples

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The Maharal
= Cult of Ray =

960 Posts

Posted - 07/21/2012 :  04:31:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've only been listening to Pistolero for a few months but I don't think it's anywhere near the level of ToTY tbh (and for clarification ToTY is Premier League for the most part, there's just one or two cuts which I deem alright or mediocre).

On topic, Whispering Weeds is one of my favourite Catholics songs; definitely one of their catchiest. I also love Jet Black River.

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Jose Jones
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
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Posted - 07/21/2012 :  17:37:14  Show Profile  Visit Jose Jones's Homepage  Reply with Quote
yeah, jet black river is great. one of my favs on BLD. i feel like most of the songs on BLD could be considered gems. there's just so much there in seemingly no coherent order. just an assload of great tunes by this great band.

god, i miss the catholics.

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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
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Posted - 07/22/2012 :  08:05:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Been listening to BLD lately. I've always loved that album.
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johnnyribcage
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
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Posted - 07/22/2012 :  09:27:22  Show Profile  Visit johnnyribcage's Homepage  Reply with Quote
BLD is awesome. It came out when I first moved to San Diego (lived out there for a couple years). Was the first album I bought out there, my first time in CA too, and when California Bound spun up it was absolutely perfect for me.



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Jose Jones
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
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Posted - 07/22/2012 :  10:56:26  Show Profile  Visit Jose Jones's Homepage  Reply with Quote
i woke up at 8am the day it and DW were released. i couldn't wait. i drove up to best buy, but it was still an hour til it opened, so i had to kill time at barnes and noble. finally bought them, popped DW in first and was thrilled. San Antonio TX really stood out right away.
i went directly to my college book store to pick up my text books for my first semester of college. by the time i was close to the bookstore i was on California Bound and was stunned that Frank could keep churning out awesome tunes.

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The Maharal
= Cult of Ray =

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Posted - 07/22/2012 :  12:13:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I still haven't listened to Devil's Workshop for one reason or another. Will amend that, maybe tomorrow.
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johnnyribcage
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1291 Posts

Posted - 07/22/2012 :  13:26:18  Show Profile  Visit johnnyribcage's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Maharal

I still haven't listened to Devil's Workshop for one reason or another. Will amend that, maybe tomorrow.



Oh snap. Party foul - better get crackin on that, homie.



Ayerigvlagabriga-Raraaaargh!-Rumbahl-Jumbahl!
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Jose Jones
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
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Posted - 07/22/2012 :  14:27:14  Show Profile  Visit Jose Jones's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Maharal

I still haven't listened to Devil's Workshop for one reason or another. Will amend that, maybe tomorrow.



this is insanity. out of state? modern age? san antonio tx? bartholomew?! whiskey in your shoes?! WHISKEY IN YOUR FUCKING SHOES?!!!

come now. get on that shit.

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The Maharal
= Cult of Ray =

960 Posts

Posted - 07/22/2012 :  15:22:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I dunno, I like dragging the Catholics records out. Think BLD was my first one. Enjoyed it at first but started to love by the second and third spins. Stuck on DitS the evening before BF was due to play Dublin in 08 or 09 and LOVED it first time, so much that I played it again immediately after. Went to a German festival during summer 09 to see Pixies and Nick Cave, and also picked up the self titled CD along with two other inspired purchases, NY's On the Beach and Warren Zevon's Excitable Boy. This one was a grower but contains several gems. 2010 was the year of the Tears and it's a lovely collection of songs (reckon I'd have loved the album way more if I wasn't already used to some of the songs) while I only got around to Pistolero a few months ago, and it's still growing on me. Skeleton Man is my favourite, I think.

(there was absolutely no need to outline all that but what's done is done.)
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johnnyribcage
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1291 Posts

Posted - 07/22/2012 :  17:35:10  Show Profile  Visit johnnyribcage's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Please tell me you have the self titled album.



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johnnyribcage
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1291 Posts

Posted - 07/22/2012 :  17:48:43  Show Profile  Visit johnnyribcage's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jose Jones

quote:
Originally posted by The Maharal

I still haven't listened to Devil's Workshop for one reason or another. Will amend that, maybe tomorrow.



this is insanity. out of state? modern age? san antonio tx? bartholomew?! whiskey in your shoes?! WHISKEY IN YOUR FUCKING SHOES?!!!

come now. get on that shit.

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Hah! The forum needs to add a like button or a thumbs up thing or something. Although, and I may be in the minority here, I've never cared for Modern Age that much. I rank it with You're Such A Wire, which is a more controversial song in the cannon to Blackheads. Nothing like I Don't Want To Hurt You, which basically sucks on every level!



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The Maharal
= Cult of Ray =

960 Posts

Posted - 07/23/2012 :  01:20:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by johnnyribcage

Please tell me you have the self titled album.



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Frank Black or Frank Black & The Catholics? I have both. I have all of his albums besides DW, FBF and Christmass (though I've listened to bits of the latter two).

Had a dream this morning that BF himself edited a post of mine. A sign if ever there was one that I needa stick on DW.

Edit: phwoar. Nice album. Immediate standouts were Fields of Marigold (what a chorus), His Kingly Cave (incredible guitar), San Antonio TX, Modern Age and Whisky In Your Shoes. And I've always loved Velvety, put that down as one of his most underrated songs actually. Thank you for the kick up the ass, Blackheads.

Edited by - The Maharal on 07/23/2012 04:42:12
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teenager94
- FB Fan -

Ireland
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Posted - 07/23/2012 :  08:44:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi guys, never posted on this forum before so thought i'd give it a go....... I'd have to go for Billy Radcliffe and Hermaphroditos as underrated classics. Also, Hermaphroditos was just amazing when he toured DITS (as a live song).

However, that's the great thing about his music, favourites/least favourites could be debated till the cows come home as there's so much quality. Similarly, in the overall standard of albums, everybody has a different view.I've read so much positivity for Corrina and Lake of Sin, yet their the 2 I automatically skip on NSE!! At present I feel his collaboration with Reid Paley is as strong as anything he's done in years, the opener 'Curse' is just fantastic.
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johnnyribcage
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1291 Posts

Posted - 07/23/2012 :  12:12:25  Show Profile  Visit johnnyribcage's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Maharal

quote:
Originally posted by johnnyribcage

Please tell me you have the self titled album.



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Frank Black or Frank Black & The Catholics? I have both.



Definitely The Catholics one. Most people round these parts refer to the first solo album as either Yellow or Orange, depending probably on whether you kept the [orange] CD in a flip folder back in the 90s or if you just kept it in the [yellow] case. Anyway, other than a few classics like Two spaces, Czar, 10 %er, and Parry, I could pretty much ditch the rest of that album. It really doesn't do much for me. The self titled Catholics on the other hand.... that album so good, make me wanna slap my mama.... Hey mama!



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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
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Posted - 07/23/2012 :  16:41:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by teenager94

Hi guys, never posted on this forum before so thought i'd give it a go....... I'd have to go for Billy Radcliffe and Hermaphroditos as underrated classics. Also, Hermaphroditos was just amazing when he toured DITS (as a live song).

However, that's the great thing about his music, favourites/least favourites could be debated till the cows come home as there's so much quality. Similarly, in the overall standard of albums, everybody has a different view.I've read so much positivity for Corrina and Lake of Sin, yet their the 2 I automatically skip on NSE!! At present I feel his collaboration with Reid Paley is as strong as anything he's done in years, the opener 'Curse' is just fantastic.



Welcome Teenager.

I would say Jane the Queen of Love was the same way. AWESOME live.
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =

Canada
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Posted - 07/23/2012 :  19:46:03  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yup, agreed. Two songs that really kicked my #$^#@ live were Hermaphroditos and Jane. I don't know if it's something about the songs' composition that makes them so much better live, if it's a poor album recording, or something else altogether but I haven't heard a recording of either song that I like anywhere near so much as I did at a show. Other songs, I feel the gap is much more narrow between live and record.

Also, welcome teenager.


"If we hit this bullseye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate."
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vilainde
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Niue
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Posted - 07/23/2012 :  21:59:10  Show Profile  Visit vilainde's Homepage  Reply with Quote
More songs that were a zillion times better live: Shazeb Andleeb, The Snake, My Terrible Ways, Dead Man's Curve.

I like the studio Jane.


Denis


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The Maharal
= Cult of Ray =

960 Posts

Posted - 07/24/2012 :  03:13:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by johnnyribcage

quote:
Originally posted by The Maharal

quote:
Originally posted by johnnyribcage

Please tell me you have the self titled album.



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Frank Black or Frank Black & The Catholics? I have both.



Definitely The Catholics one. Most people round these parts refer to the first solo album as either Yellow or Orange, depending probably on whether you kept the [orange] CD in a flip folder back in the 90s or if you just kept it in the [yellow] case. Anyway, other than a few classics like Two spaces, Czar, 10 %er, and Parry, I could pretty much ditch the rest of that album. It really doesn't do much for me. The self titled Catholics on the other hand.... that album so good, make me wanna slap my mama.... Hey mama!



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Haha I'm the opposite! I love the first album (not at first), though individually a few of the tracks are so-so, but altogether it's great in my opinion.

As for the FB&TC s/t, the first time I heard it I honestly thought it was crap besides three or four songs like Dog Gone, All My Ghosts, Suffering, I Gotta Move etc. Don't feel the same way now but it would still rank in the bottom half of my favourite FB albums. I have to be in the right mood to appreciate the two major rockers Solid Gold and I Need Peace, while Six-Sixty-Six, Do You Feel Bad About It and King & Queen of Siam never really did anything for me.

I nominate Steak 'N' Sabre as an underrated song actually. Some of his best wailing ever: "different kinda WOOOOOOOAAAAAAHHHHHHHHAAAAHHHHHRRRRLLLLLLLD". Splendid.

Was Suffering ever played live?
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vilainde
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Niue
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Posted - 07/24/2012 :  03:46:39  Show Profile  Visit vilainde's Homepage  Reply with Quote
To me that album isn't about the songs individually but about the album as a whole. There are way better songs on his other records, but it's like saying "I'm not sure about the first Ramones LP cause I Wanna Be Your Boyfriend isn't a very good song". It just works as a whole.


Denis


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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =

Canada
11674 Posts

Posted - 07/24/2012 :  04:09:11  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Maharal

quote:
Originally posted by johnnyribcage

quote:
Originally posted by The Maharal

quote:
Originally posted by johnnyribcage

Please tell me you have the self titled album.



Ayerigvlagabriga-Raraaaargh!-Rumbahl-Jumbahl!



Frank Black or Frank Black & The Catholics? I have both.



Definitely The Catholics one. Most people round these parts refer to the first solo album as either Yellow or Orange, depending probably on whether you kept the [orange] CD in a flip folder back in the 90s or if you just kept it in the [yellow] case. Anyway, other than a few classics like Two spaces, Czar, 10 %er, and Parry, I could pretty much ditch the rest of that album. It really doesn't do much for me. The self titled Catholics on the other hand.... that album so good, make me wanna slap my mama.... Hey mama!



Ayerigvlagabriga-Raraaaargh!-Rumbahl-Jumbahl!



Haha I'm the opposite! I love the first album (not at first), though individually a few of the tracks are so-so, but altogether it's great in my opinion.

As for the FB&TC s/t, the first time I heard it I honestly thought it was crap besides three or four songs like Dog Gone, All My Ghosts, Suffering, I Gotta Move etc. Don't feel the same way now but it would still rank in the bottom half of my favourite FB albums. I have to be in the right mood to appreciate the two major rockers Solid Gold and I Need Peace, while Six-Sixty-Six, Do You Feel Bad About It and King & Queen of Siam never really did anything for me.

I nominate Steak 'N' Sabre as an underrated song actually. Some of his best wailing ever: "different kinda WOOOOOOOAAAAAAHHHHHHHHAAAAHHHHHRRRRLLLLLLLD". Splendid.

Was Suffering ever played live?



And this is why we universally adopted the "orange" and "brown" designations for the two self-titled releases. :)


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Jason
* Dog in the Sand *

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Posted - 07/24/2012 :  04:15:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by johnnyribcage
Nothing like I Don't Want To Hurt You, which basically sucks on every level!



That's one of my underrateds.
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