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1965
= Cult of Ray =

Australia
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Posted - 05/26/2012 :  19:18:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think there may have been an old thread along these lines, but can't find it.

Some of Frank's best tunes are often overlooked imo. I think these are great, but under-appreciated:

SOLID GOLD
STEAK N SABRE
SO HARD TO MAKE THINGS OUT
SKELETON MAN
1826

Your thoughts?


I have the key to #902

Edited by - 1965 on 05/26/2012 22:40:04

Thomas
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
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Posted - 05/26/2012 :  21:01:00  Show Profile  Click to see Thomas's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Fields of Marigold


"Our Love is Rice and Beans and Horses Lard"
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Jose Jones
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1758 Posts

Posted - 05/27/2012 :  14:41:16  Show Profile  Visit Jose Jones's Homepage  Reply with Quote
SOLID GOLD definitely has one of the best openings of any frank song. I SWITCHED YOU goes for a similar thing, but SG does it with such awesome fucking ease.

is MY FAVORITE KISS underrated? it's one of my favorites, at least.

FAST MAN, YOU CAN'T CRUCIFY YOURSELF, DON'T CRY THAT WAY, WANDERLUST.

all of NSE seems to be underrated (a travesty), but particularly COrRINA is the fucking shit.

ANOTHER VELVET NIGHTMARE

LLANO DEL RIO has some of my favorite lyric/music combos (very similar to how i feel aboUt CHIP AWAY BOY).

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windupbird
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127 Posts

Posted - 05/27/2012 :  18:40:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've always particularly liked "Village of the Sun", "Man of Steel" and "abstract plain", "Western star".. but yeah, there's so many and some of the ones mentioned above definitely make my list... LLano del Rio, Don't cry that way, San antonio, Tx,...
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Jason
* Dog in the Sand *

1369 Posts

Posted - 05/28/2012 :  00:12:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
When I play NSE, I always, always, always repeat "Corrina" about five times.

I think "Holland Town" is really beautiful, musically and lyrically.

Frank song I think would be perfect for a slow, torchy jazz (with a vocalist) cover version: "How You Went So Far"
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The Maharal
= Cult of Ray =

869 Posts

Posted - 05/28/2012 :  05:04:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Abstract Plain isn't underrated is it?! Popmatters called it a perfect song and it ended up on the best-of if I remember correctly.

Fast Man, Golden Shore, I'm Not Dead I'm In Pittsburgh, The Real El Rey, White Noise Maker, Pan American Highway, Everything Is New (one of his catchiest songs), Jaina Blues (same again, with some of his best shouting), When I Go Down On You, Stars.

Skeleton Man and Village of the Sun are great shouts too, though I think the latter could have been improved.

Is So.Bay underrated? Only started listening to Pistolero in the past two to three months and that's improved with each and every listen. Superb progression of sounds. The Swimmer is another one which I'm unsure if it's underrated or not. Such vocals.
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
5433 Posts

Posted - 05/28/2012 :  07:53:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Farmer's Daughter
Jet Black River
Valentine & Garuda
I'll Be Blue
Manitoba
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <

Iceland
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Posted - 05/28/2012 :  11:36:05  Show Profile  Visit pot's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Six Legged Man
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hammerhands
* Dog in the Sand *

Canada
1577 Posts

Posted - 05/28/2012 :  11:58:11  Show Profile  Visit hammerhands's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Where are the songs rated?

I'll look-up songs that were not on a best-of or the #9 podcast.

Edited by - hammerhands on 05/28/2012 12:00:23
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pixiestu
> Teenager of the Year <

United Kingdom
2563 Posts

Posted - 05/28/2012 :  13:46:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Not sure if it's underrated but I never seem to see many 'Heloise' comments on here. Fantastic song in my opinion. Probably my favourite on Devil's Workshop.

[edit] I'll just add 'So Hard To Make Things Out' while it's fresh in my mind. Very atmospheric, energetic, frantic and then, I don't know, just beatiful towards the end.


"The arc of triumph"

Edited by - pixiestu on 05/28/2012 13:50:47
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windupbird
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127 Posts

Posted - 05/28/2012 :  20:33:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I guess you're right, maharal, "Abstract plain" is probably one of the ones that have gotten some recognition. I don't actually really know what the reviews are or what the critics say in general. I guess I'm just looking at it like all of his songs are pretty much underrated, in the grand scheme of things. So I guess I was just thinking of some personal favorites.
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Ziggy
* Dog in the Sand *

United Kingdom
2253 Posts

Posted - 05/29/2012 :  09:59:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
'Corrina', 'Cinema Star' and 'Lake of Sin' from NSE for definite. Awesome tunes, let down by the production and lack of exposure.

I also love 'Polly's into Me'.

Going a little further back, 'Elijah' is a cracking song.

Edited by - Ziggy on 05/29/2012 10:03:44
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1965
= Cult of Ray =

Australia
799 Posts

Posted - 05/31/2012 :  13:04:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes I agree with all of the calls above: I SWITCHED YOU is top shelf - and LAKE OF SIN is also sublime. For me THE GOLEM as a whole is perfect, but again I think that project is very under-rated.

I could go on and on...


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gotmeamovie
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158 Posts

Posted - 06/01/2012 :  12:39:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
ive seen your picutre

the break down of the chord flow towards the end of pure frank, pure fffin frank!

"I could take a walk and really wonder, really wonder"
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1965
= Cult of Ray =

Australia
799 Posts

Posted - 06/01/2012 :  13:38:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Oh yeah, I forgot WILD SON = gold!

FB and EDF chanelling The Doors..


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Jose Jones
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1758 Posts

Posted - 06/08/2012 :  14:28:40  Show Profile  Visit Jose Jones's Homepage  Reply with Quote
YOU'RE SUCH A WIRE. love it.

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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Niue
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Posted - 06/09/2012 :  09:55:41  Show Profile  Visit vilainde's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jose Jones

YOU'RE SUCH A WIRE. love it.

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where's onyone when you need him?


Denis


Obsidiana Bijoux
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Jose Jones
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1758 Posts

Posted - 06/11/2012 :  18:23:15  Show Profile  Visit Jose Jones's Homepage  Reply with Quote
if that means you think i'm retarded, then so be it. rich gilbert is brilliant on that one.
plus, it contains "this winter's gonna be a real whirligig."

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Stevio10
= Cult of Ray =

United Kingdom
876 Posts

Posted - 07/11/2012 :  05:35:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Living On Soul
Just a Little
Bad Harmony
Can I Get a Witness

The cover of the Beau Brummels Can I Get a Witness is a fantastic version! I miss that era of The Catholics post Pistolero and pre DITS, it was an exciting time in the evolution of the Catholics.
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johnnyribcage
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1088 Posts

Posted - 07/11/2012 :  15:31:38  Show Profile  Visit johnnyribcage's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Three cheers for Skeleton Man for sure

Also..

Suffering
Lone Child
Sing for Joy
Superabound
I Will Run After You
21 Reasons
California Bound
... you know what, pretty much all of BLD
I Switched You
Coastline
Virginia Reel

and probably my biggest underrated on the list, Astaroth



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The Maharal
= Cult of Ray =

869 Posts

Posted - 07/11/2012 :  15:58:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It took a few listens for me to appreciate Astaroth; at first I thought it was kinda grating, but I now I love it. Great piano and BF is in top form with his singing, or yelping. It's fun in a Virginia Reel sort of way. Then there's the bit where Ralph Carney goes mental with his saxophone - that's pure Steve McKay rock and roll, man! The song's also catchy as hell. Good call johnny.

I was listening to it on the bus the other day and one thing still irks me a little - the use of the word 'dude'. I think it's just the context of the film that makes it annoying for me.. just seems a little out of place in the world of the Golem.

Bleh, only a small grievance. Damn good song.

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johnnyribcage
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1088 Posts

Posted - 07/11/2012 :  16:17:48  Show Profile  Visit johnnyribcage's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yeah, good stuff, Maharal. The 'dude' never bothered me, in fact I never really gave it another thought beyond, hey great lyrics! Besides the general kick-assedness of the song, probably my favorite part about it is the inhale-singing he does between certain lines - "KQUEEOOWWERRRRIERRELLLWWWCKK <breath> What am I to do-ooo?"



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Edited by - johnnyribcage on 07/11/2012 16:18:04
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The Maharal
= Cult of Ray =

869 Posts

Posted - 07/11/2012 :  17:22:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I like the weird squeal thing he does at the 16 second mark. Think he does this in a couple of other songs too, can't remember which though. Possibly the more recent versions of Nimrod's Son.

I think there's something wonderful about the main refrain though, the "What am I to do-ooo", especially towards the end when it comes across as sorrowful, maybe even poignant. However, it's then offset by the rambunctious "I'M JUST AN EVIL DUDE!!" bit, making it a whole flurry of schizophrenic emotions. Just superb.

I fucking love Black Francis.

Edited by - The Maharal on 07/11/2012 17:25:03
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johnnyribcage
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USA
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Posted - 07/11/2012 :  17:32:22  Show Profile  Visit johnnyribcage's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Absolutely.

He's just havin' a bark *WOOF!* it isn't no big thing.



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Edited by - johnnyribcage on 07/11/2012 17:37:19
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The Maharal
= Cult of Ray =

869 Posts

Posted - 07/11/2012 :  17:35:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This has also alerted me to the song's actual title, "Astaroth" (confirmed by a quick Google search - Amazon and the lyrics sites use this spelling), not "Astraroth". Pesky iTunes.
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johnnyribcage
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
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Posted - 07/11/2012 :  17:40:33  Show Profile  Visit johnnyribcage's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Oh, another one - Ghost Coming



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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
5349 Posts

Posted - 07/12/2012 :  05:44:40  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
True Blue

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Jose Jones
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
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Posted - 07/12/2012 :  15:55:36  Show Profile  Visit Jose Jones's Homepage  Reply with Quote
love astaroth. love it.

i'd say my 14 track cut of FMRM is in my top 5 FB albums. love the shit out of it. spooner fucking oldham. jesus christ.


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johnnyribcage
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1088 Posts

Posted - 07/13/2012 :  13:37:41  Show Profile  Visit johnnyribcage's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jose Jones

love astaroth. love it.

i'd say my 14 track cut of FMRM is in my top 5 FB albums. love the shit out of it. spooner fucking oldham. jesus christ.


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I know this isn't the forum but I love FMRM and I love mixing short versions of it - what's yours I'd like to try it



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Jose Jones
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1758 Posts

Posted - 07/13/2012 :  14:42:47  Show Profile  Visit Jose Jones's Homepage  Reply with Quote
don't mean to derail this thread, but all of these are underrated, i'm sure:

if your poison gets you
fast man
you can't crucify yourself
wanderlust
seven days
raider man
dog sleep
in the time of your ruin
elijah
fitzgerald
it's just not your moment
the real el ray
don't cry that way
fare thee well

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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
5349 Posts

Posted - 07/14/2012 :  01:59:27  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
That's a great set although I don't like You Can't Crucify Yourself.

A one disc FMRM would probably have been his best record.

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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
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Posted - 07/14/2012 :  02:00:12  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Ohh, and a few weeks ago Smoke Up popped into my head. Great song, with a great opening: STONE WAS IN ME!

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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =

Canada
11606 Posts

Posted - 07/18/2012 :  07:15:56  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage  Reply with Quote
His BEST record?? It may have been a lot better received with some paring down but I don't know if you can put it against Dog in the Sand, Teenager, Orange, or even SMYT.


"If we hit this bullseye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate."
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onyone
- FB Fan -

Yugoslavia
96 Posts

Posted - 07/19/2012 :  05:22:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I sorry my English is not good but is "Orange" Frank album?
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The Maharal
= Cult of Ray =

869 Posts

Posted - 07/19/2012 :  06:47:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The eponymous / self-titled album

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onyone
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Yugoslavia
96 Posts

Posted - 07/19/2012 :  09:25:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Why album call orange? Forgive me not understand but isn't album yellow color?
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