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MMD
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 Posted - 03/06/2010 : 02:01:23
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Originally posted by johnnyribcage
That's pretty nifty... is it a demo or a collection of B's or what? I've heard all of 'em, just didn't know they were all grouped together somewhere...
IIRC It was going to be a proper album but FB wasn't 100% satisfied with it so it never got released, however he gave a few copies to some kids after a show once and from there it made its way onto the internet. I think most of the songs also appeared as B-sides or on those FB&tC iTunes compliations.
“Not since Orson Welles had one man so many fingers in so many pies, and been the chef as well. And then looked like he went and ate them all. The guy was out of control.” |
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Jose Jones
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1758 Posts |
Posted - 03/06/2010 : 04:51:15
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it's a beautiful little album that should have been released, imo. imagine THAT being released after pistolero!
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
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Posted - 03/06/2010 : 08:29:11
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I believe it was made after DITS, or not?
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gotmeamovie
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Posted - 03/06/2010 : 12:55:14
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anychance someone could post a link to Oddballs to?
"I could take a walk and really wonder, really wonder" |
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Jose Jones
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1758 Posts |
Posted - 03/06/2010 : 14:40:46
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Originally posted by billgoodman
I believe it was made after DITS, or not?
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BF: Mag ik Engels spreken?
it sure sounds like it. but i assumed it was made before since some of its songs were used as b-sides to DiTS singles. i could, however, be very mistaken about that.
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MajorKey
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Posted - 03/06/2010 : 17:35:10
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| "Constant Sorrow Man," "Pan American Highway," "Angst," and "Sleep" are the same versions as the released CD single versions (and the itunes comps). The remaining six are all versions exclusive to this album. It's definitely one to have. |
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
Papua New Guinea
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Broken Face
-= Forum Pistolero =-
USA
5155 Posts |
Posted - 03/07/2010 : 03:39:23
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Originally posted by Jose Jones
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Originally posted by billgoodman
I believe it was made after DITS, or not?
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BF: Mag ik Engels spreken?
it sure sounds like it. but i assumed it was made before since some of its songs were used as b-sides to DiTS singles. i could, however, be very mistaken about that.
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they were the heroes of old, men of renown.
It was recorded after DITS.
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trapperj
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Posted - 03/07/2010 : 04:32:01
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Originally posted by gotmeamovie
anychance someone could post a link to Oddballs to?
"I could take a walk and really wonder, really wonder"
There is a torrent floating around out there that has all post-Pixies work on it. Since I've bought hard copies of all the albums,(except Oddballs, which I couldn't find anywhere) I think it's even legal for me to download it. I gladly give my money to Charles for any of his products. But just search "Frank Black" on torrentz.com and you'll find it. |
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Jose Jones
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1758 Posts |
Posted - 03/07/2010 : 08:09:44
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Originally posted by Broken Face
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Originally posted by Jose Jones
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Originally posted by billgoodman
I believe it was made after DITS, or not?
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BF: Mag ik Engels spreken?
it sure sounds like it. but i assumed it was made before since some of its songs were used as b-sides to DiTS singles. i could, however, be very mistaken about that.
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they were the heroes of old, men of renown.
It was recorded after DITS.
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well, color me Enlightened Yellow. i wonder how long DiTS was sitting on the shelf before they issued the first single off it.
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Grotesque
= Cult of Ray =
France
777 Posts |
Posted - 03/07/2010 : 17:29:27
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Yeah, Nonstoperotik is some kind of well recorded version of SSMVGM.
A tight and varied little album with a typically FB mystic-desert-punk-pop-feeling.
That's a good oportunity to listen again to SSMVGD. After all that's one of the best FB's album, I never understood why he said it "didnt sound like a record".
It sounds much more like a record than Devil's Workshop to me!
Much before he became Black Francis again, I thought SSMVGD was the Black Francisest of all Frank Black albums, because of those "mexican-country-punk" accoustic guitar rythms.
Just listened to the podcast, Cinema Star rules!
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Brank_Flack
* Dog in the Sand *
Canada
1017 Posts |
Posted - 03/07/2010 : 18:43:49
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| I see what Frank means SSMVGM sounds more like a demo of an album than an actually album. I like it, but as a bootleg lost album, I think Frank made the right call. |
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Don Eduardo
= Cult of Ray =
Australia
403 Posts |
Posted - 03/07/2010 : 18:54:14
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| I'm pretty certain SSMVGD was recorded in 2000, before DITS. |
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
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Posted - 03/07/2010 : 19:04:39
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Frank Black talking abut SSMVGD:
"DOG IN THE SAND is our third record. We attempted a fourth in San Francisco a few months ago, but maybe I was getting cocky. But we did get some good B-SIDES for the single release of ROBERT ONION."
to be found in the FAQ (http://forum.frankblack.net/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=961)
Thank you El Barto and and Holzgrafe |
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
Papua New Guinea
3302 Posts |
Posted - 03/07/2010 : 19:31:18
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Getting a little off track with talk of SSMVGD. NSE is a ceremonial, a Fabergé egg for Easter.
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Grotesque
= Cult of Ray =
France
777 Posts |
Posted - 03/08/2010 : 05:16:47
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| Yes but I use to talk about music I already listened. And i dont feel like downloading that new one and discover it threw my crapy computer sound. I'll get it in the store first and sit in the sofa like in the old times. |
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Grotesque
= Cult of Ray =
France
777 Posts |
Posted - 03/08/2010 : 05:21:01
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| Anyway, the songs included in the podcast are really great. Rabbit hole is stuck in my head, the guitar note by note, almost classical, is really astonishing. The voice effect is nice too. It has a real emotionnal feeling from the very first listen. Somehow it reminds me of the unconventional production on Do what you want G(...) and Radio Lizards. I recon he should try more often those kinds of unrock strange production. |
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joe FITZ of molly BANG
= Cult of Ray =
USA
349 Posts |
Posted - 03/08/2010 : 05:45:11
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what is the M.O. around for listening to new albums? is the tradition to drink wine and listen to the album in the dark on the tuesday it comes out? I will totally do that? or will there be a circle jerk? i'm just saying. that's what kind of fan i am. either way i'm down.
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
Papua New Guinea
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Posted - 03/09/2010 : 05:26:34
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Originally posted by Grotesque
Anyway, the songs included in the podcast are really great. Rabbit hole is stuck in my head, the guitar note by note, almost classical, is really astonishing. The voice effect is nice too. It has a real emotionnal feeling from the very first listen. Somehow it reminds me of the unconventional production on Do what you want G(...) and Radio Lizards. I recon he should try more often those kinds of unrock strange production.
You know I was thinking that too. That there is a religious/ceremonial feel that has more in common with the spirit of Christmass than SSMVGD.
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Brank_Flack
* Dog in the Sand *
Canada
1017 Posts |
Posted - 03/09/2010 : 06:44:09
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Question for Charles:
Have there been any developments with the art film commissioned to accompany the album? Will it be coming out as a dvd along with NSE?
Also, all the songs I've heard sound great, good job! |
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hilljack
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Posted - 03/10/2010 : 03:04:27
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
Papua New Guinea
3302 Posts |
Posted - 03/10/2010 : 03:27:12
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Originally posted by hilljack
Anybody got "One More Road for the Hit?"
That one's available commercially so it shouldn't get posted here. Brian can clarify though.
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hilljack
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Posted - 03/10/2010 : 03:31:36
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| Oops - sorry! Didn't realize it still was! Bought it on ITunes when it came out, IPod crapped out, and you know the deal... |
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
Papua New Guinea
3302 Posts |
Posted - 03/10/2010 : 03:58:59
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Maybe it's ok. I don't see it on bfstore or itunes. But anyway I only have it as protected content.
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hilljack
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Posted - 03/10/2010 : 13:22:59
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| It's yer call! |
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MajorKey
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Posted - 03/10/2010 : 23:44:40
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In an earlier post I probably sounded less than enthusiastic about the NSE version of Rabbits. After a few more listens I'm convinced it's a thing of beauty. So much so that the original demo seems almost irrelevant now.
As for the album itself: Everyone's going to have their own opinion, but I think it's going to stand as one of his very best. It's loose and varied with all his styles and strengths represented. There's a perfect balance to the track order too. The album feels natural, almost effortless--just Frank running through a bunch of new songs, but there's something really special about this one.
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javillanos
- FB Fan -
Spain
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Posted - 03/11/2010 : 01:58:36
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Originally posted by trapperj
I just listened to the podcast and I'm impressed with NSE. It sounds like Charles and Eric were the most creative (speaking strictly about studio production) than I've ever heard from any of the man's albums. I think Rabbits is cool, DMC to me sounds great and pounding, but the most exciting thing I heard was Cinema Star. I think Brian said something like it's the most excited he's been about a new track in a while, and I have to agree. I've found this last bit of this thread amusing cause I'm constantly telling my girlfriend what the man's best song is, but it seems to change with the seasons for me.
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Originally posted by danjersey
Cinema Star is so exciting because you've got Charles' song in EDF's hands (thanks Brian for the info) and Dave Philips guitar at the end where he cuts out and then Eric takes the notes even higher and...
I wish it went on forever, maybe live someday...
what a song!
Am I the only one here thinking that Cinema Star has something to do with Being John Malkovich movie? |
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
Papua New Guinea
3302 Posts |
Posted - 03/11/2010 : 02:26:30
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Non Stop Erotic is reminding me of one of my favorite albums (on repeat the last few weeks), Hounds of Love by Kate Bush, specifically the Fairlight backing. It seems like edf is always striving for the perfectly judged synthesized backing, the kind that are easily found on Kate's songs, like Hounds of Love's title track.
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Grotesque
= Cult of Ray =
France
777 Posts |
Posted - 03/11/2010 : 02:40:51
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Originally posted by MajorKey
In an earlier post I probably sounded less than enthusiastic about the NSE version of Rabbits. After a few more listens I'm convinced it's a thing of beauty. So much so that the original demo seems almost irrelevant now.
Sometimes Charles makes a song that is more subbtle than his own ability as a guitarist. When he plays rabbits alone like on the demo you can tell the chords attack is a bit heavy compared to the song itself! As a composer, he's limitless and unclassifiable, but as a musician, he's "just" a rock genius. |
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
Papua New Guinea
3302 Posts |
Posted - 03/11/2010 : 02:50:04
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Originally posted by javillanos
Am I the only one here thinking that Cinema Star has something to do with Being John Malkovich movie?
I don't know about that but Cinema Star could have sat quite happily on the "Pretty In Pink" soundtrack. Ironic that Charles should do the kind of song that Pixies blew out of the water 20 years ago. Oh well, it makes a kind of post-Grand Duchy sense I suppose.
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eroticvultcha
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Ireland
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Posted - 03/11/2010 : 03:23:03
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Originally posted by MajorKey
In an earlier post I probably sounded less than enthusiastic about the NSE version of Rabbits. After a few more listens I'm convinced it's a thing of beauty. So much so that the original demo seems almost irrelevant now.
As for the album itself: Everyone's going to have their own opinion, but I think it's going to stand as one of his very best. It's loose and varied with all his styles and strengths represented. There's a perfect balance to the track order too. The album feels natural, almost effortless--just Frank running through a bunch of new songs, but there's something really special about this one.
Yep, it has the makings of a damn fine album... on a minor note, though, I wish they chose a different cover
 "I've got my own gas tanks." |
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Grotesque
= Cult of Ray =
France
777 Posts |
Posted - 03/11/2010 : 06:58:59
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Originally posted by eroticvultcha
Yep, it has the makings of a damn fine album... on a minor note, though, I wish they chose a different cover
"I've got my own gas tanks."
There is a "covers problem" since the cult of ray. I dont even think about it anymore. But Frank Black Francis, Bluefinger and Black Letter Days are Ok and Oddballs is great. Conclusion: dont MAKE a cover, just take any existing item that looks good! |
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markos
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Posted - 03/11/2010 : 13:53:06
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| Perhaps i missed something in the past few days, but it would appear this record may have leaked... |
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fbc
-= Modulator =-
United Kingdom
4903 Posts |
Posted - 03/11/2010 : 14:21:45
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I've yet to hear it all but I'm liking what I've heard so far.
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Originally posted by trobrianders
Non Stop Erotic is reminding me of one of my favorite albums (on repeat the last few weeks), Hounds of Love by Kate Bush
I can't stop listening to Cloudbusting! Fell in love with the song a few months back.
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
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Posted - 03/11/2010 : 17:15:07
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I've finally come to like the new version of Rabbits, but I have to wonder why he started singing it pretty instead of with so much angst, like he did at the Cafe du Nord show. Maybe it was just his mood that night.
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