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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
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 Posted - 04/18/2006 : 03:00:33
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uh, I'm lost. You're saying kathryn's mix contains a Bauhaus cover of an Eno song. Then kathryn posts the original Eno version and it's the exact same song as on the podcast. What's going on? Was the podcast re-done with the actual Eno track?
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cassandra is
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Llamadance
> Teenager of the Year <
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Posted - 04/19/2006 : 02:46:35
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review of Kathryn's podcast:
Starts off pretty well, Baby's On Fire is a good track, although the vocals grate a bit and like I said earlier, I was going to put the Bauhaus track on my mix. I think that's a fantastic song. Like Denis, I'm still a bit confused about the original version. I've never heard a Brian Eno version of this song (including the yousendit version which was the same) but would be interested to.
The True Wheel didn't really grab me, but after a few listens Mother Whale Eyeless is growing on me. It kind of feels almost like a fairground ride for some reason. I can imagine a video with lots of spinning things and people laughing, but sort of blurry - maybe a bit like one of the Bowie videos funnily enough (Major Tom?).
Now onto the Byrne stuff....The Jezebel Spirit has a nice groove to it, but the megaphone/distorted vocals seem to let it down and would irritate after a while. Help Me Somebody really falls into the same category, and like someone else said, it doesn't really go anywhere. Some songs get away with that by having some kind of hook or uniqueness, but this has neither to these ears.
I like David Byrne, although anything since Talking Heads has largely passed me by. At least on Big Business the vocals are better, but again the whole backing track is largely uninspiring and would just be background music in this house. My Big Hands (Fall Through The Cracks) is much better and reminds me of Speaking In Tongues, which can only be a good thing.
Overall, I enjoyed it, but it didn't turn me on to Eno. It did remind me however that I need to buy a couple of Byrne/Talking Heads albums.
I think as a podcast it worked really well, kathryn's slant was great and lots of interesting information. Thanks kathryn.
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Broken Face
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Posted - 04/19/2006 : 09:29:26
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Review: Dean - A Grim Fandango
Favs: Greenfield Main (?) - "Red River Valley" Run Chico Run - "Sportscar for Everyone," Decemberists - "16 Military Wives"
Least Favs: Kaiser Chiefs - "Everyday I Love You Less And Less," Clearlake - "The Mind is Evil"
Comments: Dean and i share a similar taste in certain artists, so the Ween, A.C. Newman, and Broken Social Scene are all appreciated. Especially the Mohammed Ali solo! I believe "Red River Valley" is a traditional folk song, covered many, many times over the years. Regardless, i love it! That's the Americana in me coming out. Run Chico Run, especially their organ solo, impressed, and i love HER MAJESTY, but have not heard PICARESQUE yet, so thanks for that Decemberists tune. I am one of the people who doesn't really care for the whole Killers/Bloc Party/Kaiser Chiefs movement. It's not that their music is bad, or bothersome, i just feel its easy and not very creative. Something about the whole scene irks me, but thats just my own little prejudice. Lately i've been really down on orchestration + rock music, so Clearlake doesn't really impress me either. I would like to hear more Andrew Bird - i am certainly interested, and he appears to be an artist that requires more than one or two songs to get into. All in all, an enjoyable podcast. It's nice to hear Dean when he isn't bridled with the burden of co-hosting w/ me.
-Brian
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Cult_Of_Frank
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Posted - 04/19/2006 : 14:23:49
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I wouldn't lump Killers with Bloc Party/Kaiser Chiefs, but I understand and can see the connection. I guess the latter two don't strike me as image over substance so much as the Killers. Kaiser Chiefs are what they are, they don't hide it. Fun pop/rock. But certainly, as you say, not especially arty or complex.
Still, I see your point. Thanks for the comments. Run Chico Run was made much more impressive to me once I actually saw them perform it with only two people EXACTLY as it sounds on the album. One handed drumming to play keys and all. And you're dead on about Andrew Bird - I put two on and even that's not a fair representation. As for hosting without you, there were so many times I wanted to bounce something off you that I left one in there. :)
Oh, and Decemberists, glad you liked 'em. Picaresque was a huge turning point for me, from hate to love.
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Broken Face
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Posted - 04/19/2006 : 14:40:23
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I've started recording my podcast since the next few weeks will be busy, and it feels odd Deaner to not bounce things off of you as well. It reminds me of my days doing the lunchtime 'new music' radio show for my college station. Only i'm not allowed to play FB/Pixies on this podcast.
-Brian
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starmekitten
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Posted - 04/19/2006 : 15:45:23
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A Grim Fandango
Well if Kathryn was chatty Dean is just plain old talkative; isn't he ?hmm? What happened to ten minutes of chat max? I'm not complaining by the way. It's just an observational. I had never heard a ween track before this mix, and whilst I found it an interesting experience (curse words! crazy!) I'm not sure it's one I would go out of my way to repeat too often. It wasn't bad but it didn't grab me by the things I don't have anyway. I liked the non-nashville track more than powder blue but both tracks had a sort of "comedy music" feel about them and that only goes so far.
If I were to comment on every artist/track in a grim fandango it would take me for-fucking-ever so I'm going to focus on highlights for me. And lowlights, whats a review without a little thrashing after all?
The AC Newman was a new one on me as well (honestly) and I liked it. Not sure it's something to get super enthusiastic about but then what is nowadays eh? As far as decent pass the time music went it was spot on. I was familiar with the Arcade Fire track, but hell, you can never go wrong with a little arcade fire. Run chico Run had a lovely lethargic feel about them. Maybe it's this youthful dissafection I hear so much about but I kind of imagined them on a sofa dragging their way through the song, each word a trial to get out, each chord an effort to strike. Found it very endearing.
Beluah (sp?) was boring. Sorry. The story about no zombie killing was depressing. Loved that music though.
Lets see, river of daughters bothered me because it reminds me so much of something else and I can't bloody put my finger on it. Not a bad track though. I had the same problem with Decemberists - 16 Military Wives, I decided in the end that if TMBG and early-Greenday had a bastard offspring it'd make music like this song. Oddly though, it works, really cheered my walk up. La di da di da di duh duh de duh deee daa. You're right about the energy levels
If I never hear that Kaiser Chiefs song again I wouldn't mind. Seriously you need to move to the UK. You'd fit riiiight in.
I can't imagine anyone looking at you and imagining you singing Death Metal though Dean, honestly. Your folky song was sweet though, it's not that terrible a secret. Clearlake and the track after didn't do anything for me really. The Andrew Bird tracks were very interesting though. What an amazing title for a track as well. Awesome, I'm so easily swayed by a good title.
All round enjoyable though, a nice range of songs and a very thorough explanation of pretty much everything. Good work sir.
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Cult_Of_Frank
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Posted - 04/19/2006 : 16:26:35
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Wow, thanks for the review. Looks like you spent a bloody long time anyway. :)
Now tell me, did you sing along? Did you? It's just a little more straight-up-folky that I find embarassing a bit. I don't know if it can be called Americana when it's from Canada - I've heard the term Canadiana, but in any case, not my usual fare. I do enjoy it though.
Sorry about the KCs. I never hear anything remotely close to indie here. I had to cajole a dj to get him to play a Franz Ferdinand song at our 'hip' club for my sister's birthday. Ridiculous. So no burnout here.
As for RCR, I hate to tell you they're actually pretty energetic on stage. No couch mopery or anything, but that doesn't detract from my enjoyment of the song at all. Actually, the album's been growing on me, though there are three songs that sound far too similar in my mind.
Ween isn't really like that anymore. Their songs aren't serious, political, or deep if that's what you mean, which I actually am thankful for (there are enough people doing that) but they aren't really about cursing for the sake of cursing generally. There are exceptions, I think. I don't know, if the key to the music was the comedy, I wouldn't like it, because I don't really find them funny. The music itself stands on its own. I wouldn't put those two songs as my favourites (I do like Happy Coloured Marbles and the alternation between a Beatlesy chorus and a dark doomsday verse) but just songs I felt appropriate. I guess I was assuming most everyone had had exposure to them already. I probably would've picked a song off The Mollusk and White Pepper or Chocolate & Cheese were I to pick my favourites.
Finally... zombie killing? OH! Nevermind. Yes, Land of the Dead. Good times.
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
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Posted - 04/19/2006 : 16:29:18
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What's the diff between chatty and talkative?
I’m the only one who can say that this light is mine
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starmekitten
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Llamadance
> Teenager of the Year <
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Posted - 04/21/2006 : 05:10:32
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I'm getting an error in iTunes when it tries to download Remig's podcast - says it's not a valid podcast url.
Saying that, the fact there's another episode is showing up in my RSS reader.
Any ideas?
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remig
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 04/21/2006 : 07:09:20
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There's an error in the xml file.
For those who can't wait for dean to fix eat (because I can't):
http://hipdepression.org/frankmix/remigpodcast.mp3
I'll put the separate files on the FTP later.
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Llamadance
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remig
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Llamadance
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Posted - 04/21/2006 : 07:22:33
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Haha, swine :D
was that your third attempt? ;)
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remig
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Posted - 04/21/2006 : 07:26:39
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
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Posted - 04/21/2006 : 07:56:46
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OK, fixed. Remi was using some international (non UTF-8) characters like fancy apostrophes that apparently XML isn't a huge fan of.
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
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Posted - 04/21/2006 : 08:23:24
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In keeping with not doing proper reviews, Dean's podcast was very, um... very Dean.
Lot's of this ironic, knowing indie-pop kind of thing - sorry, again, it's not really my scene. I never got bands like the Unicorns either, so I'm not surprised really. Ween are one band that so many people go on about, but like Tre I'm really not going to check them out: to be brutal, I just didn't like the songs, that comedy element just puts me right off.
Beulah, Decemberists, definitely Kaiser Chiefs, these are all bands I can live without.
However, I was pleasantly surprised by the AC Newman song, and of course the Arcade Fire one, and I don't mind Clearlake either. They actually do have a new album out, 'Amber' on Domino (in the UK at least). It's pretty good.
The presentation was all good (as has been noted, Dean is not one to hold his tongue with these things, which is appropriate and good I think) though - sorry, I just didn't like most of the songs.
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Broken Face
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Posted - 04/21/2006 : 08:51:46
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I can hardly wait for "Simon bashes Brian" 2006
Just kidding - i enjoy that we can be honest and hopefully not offend anyone w/ our reviews
-Brian
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Cult_Of_Frank
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Posted - 04/21/2006 : 08:54:10
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No need to apologize, I should be apologizing perhaps that my mix was not more varied. You'll probably like Remi's mix more, definitely a little more rock.
Still, curious what kind of music you do like or if you can qualify your qualms(tm) on the 'ironic knowing indie-pop kind of thing'. Seems to me that AC Newman would classify as pop as much as the others? Or Clearlake?
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Frog in the Sand
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Posted - 04/21/2006 : 09:04:41
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Originally posted by Broken Face
i enjoy that we can be honest and hopefully not offend anyone w/ our reviews
OK, I'll post my review of your swap 5 tomorrow...
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"The following tale of me is true. And by true, I mean false. It's all lies. But they're entertaining lies. And in the end, isn't that the real truth? The answer is: No." (The Simpson Files)
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cassandra is
> Teenager of the Year <
France
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Posted - 04/21/2006 : 09:19:42
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A little bit late, but here it goes:
"A Grim Fandango."
Dean’s podcast
mark: 4,5 out of 5
I really enjoyed your mix and podcast Dean, I liked most of the songs in it. A lot of bands I didn’t really knew, or didn’t knew at all, and it was a good introduction to these ones. So thanks a lot for that. I also liked your comments and anecdotes, it’s well constructed with the mix.
Ween – Happy Colored Marbles
I discovered Ween with “Chocolate and Cheese” when it came out, and I really love that album. But it was the only one I knew until recently. I was aware that they were quite friends with with Mike Patton, then I decided to go and check out a little further (thanx for the recent thread about them recently), and I bought GODWEENSATAN some weeks ago, that I really really like. I’ve also been listening to White Pepper, and 12 Golden Greats that I also appreciate. Pure Guava and The Pod are the ones I have the most difficulties to like. I must check out The Mollusk one of these days.
About that particular song: I like that one, the different parts of it, and the great “popy” chorus.
Ween – Powder Blue
The lap-steel solo is great, indeed. I like your anecdote about the recording of 12 Golden Country Greats, didn’t knew about that!
Beulah - Hovering
Just knew that band by name, so thanks for putting one of their song in your mix. I it’s not very original to say that but that song reminds me a lot of Wilco and of some Sparklehorse songs (maybe because of the Mellotron arrangements). I like it, I like the arrangements, and I agree with your comments about that.
Where do that band come from?
Grim Fandango -
I also love good surf songs. In fact I’ve been a lot into that kind of music recently, and also into movie scores and old jazz tunes, so I really dig that one! Especially the sax and the guitar parts.
The Old Souls – River Of Daughters (fall thru the cracks)
The voice reminds me a bit of someone, but I’m not really sure… Maybe the singer from Elbow… The song is really good. I also like the arrangements on that one: the mix of the piano, the guitars, the keyboards… well done. And the melodies are good. I don’t understand all the lyrics, but they seem good too.
The Arcade Fire - Headlights Look Like Diamonds
I love this band so much. I’ve got this song on the reissue of their first mini-lp. What else can I say? I really love that band.
AC Newman – The Battle For Straight Time
I don’t really know the New Pornographers-Neko Case-A.C. Newman- Zumpano scene yet, it’s something I’ll have to check out some day soon. So thanks again for this one!
That song is good! Love the guitar riff, the verse makes me think a little bit of the Pixies (maybe the guitar and the singing). It’s a simple song, but really well executed and produced IMO.
The Decemberists – Sixteen Military Wives
Hey, I don’t really know The Decemberists too, in fact Sixteen Military Wives is the only song I know from this band. And I love it. I’m a huge fan of the video of that song. Brilliant idea. And the song is just perfect. Another band to check out soon…
Yeah, you’re right Dean that’s a song you can’t help dancing and jumping everywhere when you hear it.
Run Chico Run – Sportscars For Everyone
Kinda original and a little bit strange in the arrangements and the vocals. Interesting song. I like the use of the organ-keyboard.
Kaiser Chiefs - Everyday I Love You less And Less
I think I tend to agree with Brian about that band. I don’t know… It’s entertaining, but… I really don’t get into them. I’d rather listen to Franz Ferdinand or some good-old XTC song.
Broken Social Scene – Pacific Theme
Don’t really know that band too. The kind of song you like to listen in the summer… I like the guitar (very “Cure-esque”) and the brass arrangements. Makes you wanna drink some refreshing cocktail…
Falconhawk – Try A Little Longer
Never heard of that band before. Good piano parts, good vocals, good melodies. I like the voice of the singer.
Greenfield Main – Red River Valley
eh eh eh… Hi-Dee-Ho!
Clearlake – The Mind Is Evil
Wow, nice strings arrangements! Never heard of that band before too. Happily surprised by this one. I really dig it! Nice voice, and the vocals melody is great!
Controller Controller - PF
Another band I discover in your mix. Really original IMO. Maybe because of the combination of the guitar parts (very “new wave-esque”) and the warm-groovy-voices.
Andrew Bird - I
This guy and his music is still a mistery to me… The songs are great, sometimes awesome, like this one: the arrangements, the production, the lyrics, the general vibe… all of that is perfect, but: I still don’t know why I don’t get into this man and his music. I don’t understand. I mean: I like to hear his music sometimes, but not enough to buy his records or to listen to it regularly.
Andrew Bird – A Nervous Tic Motion Of The Head To The Left
Idem as above. This one shows he is a great songwriter too, and a great melodist, but… maybe one day, I’ll understand… who knows?
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
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Posted - 04/21/2006 : 09:33:32
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Cool, thanks c_is, you made my day. :) A song by song review, who'd've thought?
I completely agree with you on Ween, and you MUST check out the Mollusk, it's as good as or maybe even better than White Pepper. Quebec is also terrific, but I like Mollusk better. Beulah, I think, are from California. I would agree they're not exactly inventing genres, but it's nice stuff. I definitely see a Wilco connection. Don't tell Floop. :) Sorry you'd already heard Sixteen Military Wives (I've never seen the video, will have to find it now!) and Headlights. I figured most of you would already have heard Arcade Fire but was hoping to at least give a rarer song than Rebellion.
Anyway, thanks for the review.
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Broken Face
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Posted - 04/21/2006 : 09:37:38
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Beulah is indeed from California, San Francisco to be more specific.
-Brian
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remig
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 04/21/2006 : 09:42:30
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About rarer songs by arcade fire I've got some MP3s:
Live: Brazil- Virgin Mary Highway- Burning Bridges, Breaking Heart, Surf City Eastern Block, Asleep at the wheel, William Pierce, Cars and Telephone, Born on a train (radio), Naive Melody.
Studio: Cold Wind (from 6 feet Under soundtrack), Naive Melody, Goodnight Boy (studio outtake). |
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
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Posted - 04/21/2006 : 09:46:19
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Wow. I think of all those I only have Asleep At The Wheel. How would you feel about donating some of those via the FTP? Where have you gotten these tracks? It's like you've told me there's an Arcade Fire album I don't have!
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remig
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Posted - 04/21/2006 : 09:53:02
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The live tracks aren't that great, but worth a listen. Best are Cold wind (a masterpiece, be ready to cry), Naive Melody (heard it live), Burning Bridges and Born on a train.
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
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Posted - 04/21/2006 : 10:01:15
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Thank you Remi, I will be checking this out tonight!
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Crispy Water
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Posted - 04/21/2006 : 11:25:42
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PS. I'm just about done w/ my podcast, so if anyone wants/needs to switch, i could be ready to go for next Friday or any subsequent Friday.
-Brian
Does this offer still stand? Because I could really use a little extra time, been very busy lately and just realized my number's almost up. Please let me know.
I hope to catch up on reviews this weekend.
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Cult_Of_Frank
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Posted - 04/21/2006 : 11:49:07
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Incidentally, I'll be out of town for a good portion of next week, but hoping that I'll be able to update the feed from Calgary. If whoever is next is done, the sooner I get your podcast, etc, the better.
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Broken Face
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Posted - 04/21/2006 : 14:07:27
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Yes, i can still do it Crispy. Deaner, i can get it to you on Tuesday, does that work?
-Brian
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Cult_Of_Frank
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Posted - 04/21/2006 : 14:10:36
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Yeah, Tuesday should be good. I leave Wed morning. I'm gonna be so $%^#%^#ing busy Mon/Tues of next week. :)
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
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Posted - 04/22/2006 : 03:16:00
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Originally posted by Cult_Of_Frank
No need to apologize, I should be apologizing perhaps that my mix was not more varied. You'll probably like Remi's mix more, definitely a little more rock.
Still, curious what kind of music you do like or if you can qualify your qualms(tm) on the 'ironic knowing indie-pop kind of thing'. Seems to me that AC Newman would classify as pop as much as the others? Or Clearlake?
"If we hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominos will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate."
Ach no, the point of these is to put music that you love on there, don't apologize for not varying it up a bit - I'm pretty confident not many people will like the majority of my songs, but I don't care because I'm always right about this sort of thing. Really.
So, to answer one point: you'll find out what music I like soon enough. Soon enough... As for the indie-pop thing, I guess there are some bands which are very self-consciously quirky (at least, as I see them) to the point where it distracts from the song. I'm sure you can see what I mean by the quirky thing in relation to the Ween tracks for example. There are some bands who can make a sound along the same lines but that aren't so arch, that are a bit more heartfelt. I don't know: normally I'd categorise a band playing music like Neutral Milk Hotel, or Belle & Sebastian in this kind of category but I think these bands have some sort of genuineness to them which balances it out and allows you to focus on a great song.
On the other hand, I could be talking nonsense. It's been known. Generally I only make sense to myself.
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Broken Face
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Posted - 04/22/2006 : 06:35:32
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It's like Sophie's Choice - i have to cut two songs from my podcast to make it in, with rambling, at under my 90 minute goal. My apologies in advance for having a long one.
I'm trying oh so very hard not to make that last sentence into a 'that's what she said' joke...
-Brian
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Llamadance
> Teenager of the Year <
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Posted - 04/22/2006 : 06:58:09
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quote:
Originally posted by Broken Face
My apologies in advance for having a long one.
I'm trying oh so very hard not to make that last sentence into a 'that's what she said' joke...
-Brian
Hehe, that reminds of the old joke..
Bloke: Do you want to have sex tonight?
Woman: No thanks, I've got a bad heart.
Bloke: That's ok, lie on your side and I'll try and miss it.
That which does not kill me postpones the inevitable.
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