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lonely persuader
= Cult of Ray =

Ireland
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Posted - 03/20/2006 :  10:04:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
well dug up silverreel...

I like the
"go, little record go"

Its has a feel similar to "little eiffel"..
maybe Frank thought this would be his "Eiffel tower", or "Eiffel Tower high"...

the those who paid and outer space refers to the planet of sound song...
"I met a guy in a rover,
he said its one more over"..
Gets me everytime...

so maybe the first 3 songs are a trilogy.
Thus in the first song ("twice occurred")... apart from itself..

Im clutching




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lonely persuader
= Cult of Ray =

Ireland
488 Posts

Posted - 03/20/2006 :  10:05:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
said the hen
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Levitated
= Cult of Ray =

Chile
652 Posts

Posted - 03/20/2006 :  13:47:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wow never thought about that! Good catch man!
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
5360 Posts

Posted - 03/20/2006 :  14:54:45  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Frank Black posts on this website
why doesn't he give us the answer?

because he loves this shit
I especialy loved the bit everywordmeans came up with
transcribing the solo, twice D C#, Washington DC! A little far fetched, but it makes sense to me!

Everywordmeans?
(which could be a cool undercover name for Frank saying
that every word in his lyrics means something, which doesn't have to be the case at all)


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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =

Canada
11665 Posts

Posted - 03/20/2006 :  14:59:17  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yeah, good call on the "twice occurred". He has several other songs that are or appear to be sequels. Mullholland/St. Francis. Velouria/Velvety. Coastline/Golden Shore (?). Subbacultcha/Nadine.


"If we hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominos will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate."
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lonely persuader
= Cult of Ray =

Ireland
488 Posts

Posted - 03/21/2006 :  09:14:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
"Go, little record go"
At the time of its construction in 1889, the Eiffel Tower was the tallest structure in the world.

A minor record now i guess.
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silvereel
- FB Fan -

USA
112 Posts

Posted - 03/22/2006 :  00:04:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
there is a song by the australian band Custard that goes "it's because she works that we might not go away on holiday..." -(the new mathew) apparently, Custard toured with frank black in the early 90's...
?

Edited by - silvereel on 03/22/2006 00:19:14
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silvereel
- FB Fan -

USA
112 Posts

Posted - 03/22/2006 :  00:17:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
a couple custard albums were produced by EDF
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silvereel
- FB Fan -

USA
112 Posts

Posted - 04/02/2006 :  20:20:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
okay, yet another few anagrams for Trompe Le Monde:

Delete Mom Porn
Deep Motel Morn
Older Men Tempo
Demon Or Temple
End Molter Poem
Templed No More

"I'm done with adult matters. I'm doin the catapult."
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tisasawath
= Cult of Ray =

Wallis and Futuna Islands
783 Posts

Posted - 04/03/2006 :  22:58:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
and let's not forget:
Mend Pool Meter

now we're getting somewhere!!

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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
11546 Posts

Posted - 04/04/2006 :  06:50:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by tisasawath

and let's not forget:
Mend Pool Meter


I'm trying hard to forget it....

pas de dutchie!
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candle
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5 Posts

Posted - 04/12/2006 :  22:42:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
"We went to the store / and got something great / that samples this song / from Washington State."

That seems straightforward enough. What songs from Washington State were recognisable and important enough in 1991 that they would be sampled by someone else? Wasn't Nirvana around at that point? Perhaps Frank went out and bought a copy of 'Call It What You Want' by 'Credit To The Nation', which samples the beginning of 'Smells Like Teen Spirit'? And perhaps this is the record he is hoping will "go"; and perhaps it was named by some guy named Joe; and certainly a song which begins with a sample from something else is "fooling the world".

Or, since it hadn't been released or probably even written by the time TLM came out, perhaps not.

Oh well.
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
11546 Posts

Posted - 04/14/2006 :  06:25:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wowsers! (Hi candle, BTW!)

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Matt Kean
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Posted - 08/14/2006 :  09:43:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
So, I lined up the words of the two verses beside each other, kind of like this:

why...........go
do.............little
cupids.......record
and...........go

etc ...

Then I read the first word of the first verse, followed by the first word of the second verse, then the second word of the first verse, then the second word of the second verse, etc.
I got kind of excited when it said "Why go, do little..."
I mean, "do little" ... coincidence?
Probably.
Unfortunately, while the first four words following this pattern make some kind of sense, and refer to their earlier album, it doesn't seem to continue on to reveal any deeper meanings of life or anything. But for a minute there I thought I was on the right track..
I dunno, maybe those four words are enough.
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
11546 Posts

Posted - 08/14/2006 :  10:10:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi, Matt...'do....little', that's a new one on me!!

So, it's like they're saying....

why go-why split the band up....

do little...because they'll never achieve the heights of Doolittle again!

cupids record-they're a cute college band, in the studio!!

and go-band split!

....Er, or something! :D


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Edited by - Carl on 08/14/2006 10:12:39
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tisasawath
= Cult of Ray =

Wallis and Futuna Islands
783 Posts

Posted - 08/15/2006 :  01:12:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
and, and..... more anagrams...

leo dement prom

peter m end loom

leper tom on med (ok, ok...)

loon temper med

AH HA!..........................AH HA!!...............</poirot_moment>

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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
11546 Posts

Posted - 10/27/2006 :  08:58:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Concerning the album cover, not the song, but nonetheless...

http://thedizzies.blogspot.com/2006/10/connections-ommatidium-eyes-have-it_27.html

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MikeW
- FB Fan -

USA
214 Posts

Posted - 12/16/2006 :  19:56:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
the washington state reference refers to the bull horn that radio shack use to sell. it had a sample of the washington state fight song on there, which is also in Trompe after he says "from washington state".
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MikeW
- FB Fan -

USA
214 Posts

Posted - 12/16/2006 :  19:59:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
go little record go, it is named by some guy named joe.

I think that refers to the the actual Pixies' records spinning on a turntable or a cd spinning, ya know?.... didnt Joey name the band Pixies? some guy named Joe....
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MikeW
- FB Fan -

USA
214 Posts

Posted - 12/16/2006 :  20:01:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This is song is twice occured

I think that refers to the fact that there is a song called trompe le monde as well as the album being titled trompe le monde. so its twice occured....
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MikeW
- FB Fan -

USA
214 Posts

Posted - 12/16/2006 :  20:05:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
word are the letters of the words, said electrically played.

I think that refers to the chords, notes etc played on the guitar to play the actual songs. hence, the letters of the words are the chords and notes.
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tisasawath
= Cult of Ray =

Wallis and Futuna Islands
783 Posts

Posted - 12/18/2006 :  06:19:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
and today's ~ana of the day~ is...

lemon drop meet


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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
11546 Posts

Posted - 12/28/2006 :  10:29:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Blog entry about TLM (the album!):

http://openyoureyestomusic.blogspot.com/2006/12/pixies-trompe-le-monde.html

Merry Christmas!
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tisasawath
= Cult of Ray =

Wallis and Futuna Islands
783 Posts

Posted - 12/29/2006 :  00:40:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
"it too fails to reach the same level of brilliance..."??
what the fruit is he on about ?!?
you can't compare those, it's not an ordinal fookin' scale, it's an entirely different dimension...
I love bossa and tlm but I could/would never compare it against surfer or doolittle, it's as if I were at a dinner describing an excellent main course by comparing it to a delicious dessert or something... "well... it doesn't reach the sweetness... so I wouldn't order that..."

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Ziggy
* Dog in the Sand *

United Kingdom
2255 Posts

Posted - 12/29/2006 :  04:18:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It really riles me when people talk about 'the softer sound of Bossanova'. Sure, 'Ana' and 'Havalina' are pretty mellow, but on the other hand... 'Rock Music'? 'Velouria'? 'Hang Wire'? 'The Happening'? For heavens sake...

Edited by - Ziggy on 12/29/2006 04:18:26
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Gino
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10 Posts

Posted - 12/29/2006 :  06:52:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Actually, Trompe le monde is a mistake. This expression doesn't exist in French.
Charles must have thought about the expression: Trompe la mort which indeed exists.
Trompe Le MOnde means nothing in french.
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jediroller
* Dog in the Sand *

France
1718 Posts

Posted - 12/29/2006 :  07:09:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sorry to disagree, but it does. Just because it's not an expression doesn't mean that these words don't exist and can't be used in that combination. They do mean "Fool the world".

It's like saying that "Dog in the sand" doesn't mean anything in English because it's not a proverb.

It's been suggested that it was a wordplay on "trompe-l'oeil", hence the eyeballs on the artwork. Don't know, maybe Simon Larbalestier could tell us if it was meant that way.


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Edited by - jediroller on 12/29/2006 07:10:33
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Gino
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Posted - 12/29/2006 :  09:38:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I agree BUT Charles explained in interview circa 92 that it was an expression... (even in the Rapido show I believe). He got that wrong.
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frnck blck
-= The Man =-

312 Posts

Posted - 12/29/2006 :  19:54:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Gino

I agree BUT Charles explained in interview circa 92 that it was an expression... (even in the Rapido show I believe). He got that wrong.



Yes. I stand corrected. It is not an expression in French. I meant to say that it was a play on the expression, which is also an expression in English, at least in a discussion of painting. The title was a suggestion of the Pixies manager, Ken Goes.

fbf
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everywordmeans
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USA
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Posted - 12/29/2006 :  22:19:27  Show Profile  Click to see everywordmeans's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Fuck that! HEy Frank! why don'tcha answer the question about the lyrics of this song? if they were just off-the-cuff scribblings let us know, or were there actual references/secrets embedded in them?
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Gino
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Posted - 12/30/2006 :  07:45:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by frnck blck

quote:
Originally posted by Gino

I agree BUT Charles explained in interview circa 92 that it was an expression... (even in the Rapido show I believe). He got that wrong.



Yes. I stand corrected. It is not an expression in French. I meant to say that it was a play on the expression, which is also an expression in English, at least in a discussion of painting. The title was a suggestion of the Pixies manager, Ken Goes.

fbf



Aren't you talking about Trompe l'oeil?
It's an expression about painting.
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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~

Belize
5305 Posts

Posted - 12/30/2006 :  15:16:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think that if it was some huge secret meaning to the whole song that FB would have commented on it when he stopped in.
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tisasawath
= Cult of Ray =

Wallis and Futuna Islands
783 Posts

Posted - 12/31/2006 :  01:18:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jediroller

Sorry to disagree, but it does. Just because it's not an expression doesn't mean that these words don't exist and can't be used in that combination. They do mean "Fool the world".

It's like saying that "Dog in the sand" doesn't mean anything in English because it's not a proverb.

It's been suggested that it was a wordplay on "trompe-l'oeil", hence the eyeballs on the artwork. Don't know, maybe Simon Larbalestier could tell us if it was meant that way.


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So...the world...is an eyeball.

I solved it! I solved it!


42!

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Frog in the Sand
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France
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Posted - 12/31/2006 :  09:31:32  Show Profile  Visit Frog in the Sand's Homepage  Reply with Quote
In fact there's a popular French expression, "tromper son monde", which means something like "to fool / deceive the others" (often to seduce or reassure them). For instance, politicians "trompent leur monde" by looking cooler or more competent than they really are.

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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =

Mexico
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Posted - 12/31/2006 :  10:16:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Gino

quote:
Originally posted by frnck blck

quote:
Originally posted by Gino

I agree BUT Charles explained in interview circa 92 that it was an expression... (even in the Rapido show I believe). He got that wrong.



Yes. I stand corrected. It is not an expression in French. I meant to say that it was a play on the expression, which is also an expression in English, at least in a discussion of painting. The title was a suggestion of the Pixies manager, Ken Goes.

fbf



Aren't you talking about Trompe l'oeil?
It's an expression about painting.



Frank said in an interview a long time ago that it was a play on that expression, "trompe l'oeil"



at least that's what your mom said
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