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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
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 Posted - 12/31/2006 : 10:22:50
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Originally posted by candle
"We went to the store / and got something great / that samples this song / from Washington State."
That seems straightforward enough. What songs from Washington State were recognisable and important enough in 1991 that they would be sampled by someone else? Wasn't Nirvana around at that point? Perhaps Frank went out and bought a copy of 'Call It What You Want' by 'Credit To The Nation', which samples the beginning of 'Smells Like Teen Spirit'? And perhaps this is the record he is hoping will "go"; and perhaps it was named by some guy named Joe; and certainly a song which begins with a sample from something else is "fooling the world".
Or, since it hadn't been released or probably even written by the time TLM came out, perhaps not.
Oh well.
(sorry if this has been answered already)
the Washington State refers to the Washington State Fight song. in an interview back around Tromp era Frank said that line was about going to radio shack and getting one of those megaphone/loudspeakers. the song is literally what is played (sampled) from the megaphone..
check out any megaphone / loudspeaker and it's on there
at least that's what your mom said |
Edited by - floop on 12/31/2006 10:23:54 |
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
Ireland
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Posted - 12/31/2006 : 14:10:11
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Really?! That's interesting.
 Merry Christmas! |
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
15297 Posts |
Posted - 12/31/2006 : 14:41:27
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DruggedBunny
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
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Posted - 01/01/2007 : 14:20:56
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the washington state reference refers to the bull horn that radio shack use to sell. it had a sample of the washington state fight song on there, which is also in Trompe after he says "from washington state".
I knew there was a Washington State Fight Song, but didn't know about the Radio Shack bullhorn reference... cool!
Here's a theory I've had for a while: Frank sings The Perry Mason Theme in Space (I Believe In), and I tried to find a copy for a long time. On finally hearing it, I did an aural double-take:
http://www.hi-toro.com/misc/perrymasonintro.mp3
Is it just me that hears the start of Trompe le Monde here? Is the Trompe intro a tribute to the Perry intro, with a similar call-and-response opening? For reference...
http://www.hi-toro.com/misc/trompeintro.mp3
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matto
= Cult of Ray =
USA
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Posted - 01/01/2007 : 21:07:44
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quote:
Originally posted by DruggedBunny
quote:
the washington state reference refers to the bull horn that radio shack use to sell. it had a sample of the washington state fight song on there, which is also in Trompe after he says "from washington state".
I knew there was a Washington State Fight Song, but didn't know about the Radio Shack bullhorn reference... cool!
Here's a theory I've had for a while: Frank sings The Perry Mason Theme in Space (I Believe In), and I tried to find a copy for a long time. On finally hearing it, I did an aural double-take:
http://www.hi-toro.com/misc/perrymasonintro.mp3
Is it just me that hears the start of Trompe le Monde here? Is the Trompe intro a tribute to the Perry intro, with a similar call-and-response opening? For reference...
http://www.hi-toro.com/misc/trompeintro.mp3
good catch!!!
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MikeW
- FB Fan -
USA
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Posted - 01/01/2007 : 22:06:16
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| Maybe Frank can shed some light into this rumor: I heard that Frank had purchased the bull-horn during the Bossanova sessions and that sometime during the Trompe sessions he through it against a brick wall or something and smashed it to pieces. The engineer or whoever was working the session taped it back together with duct tape and got it to work for the trompe sessions. |
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pixiestu
> Teenager of the Year <
United Kingdom
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Posted - 01/02/2007 : 03:47:03
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quote:
Originally posted by DruggedBunny
Here's a theory I've had for a while: Frank sings The Perry Mason Theme in Space (I Believe In), and I tried to find a copy for a long time. On finally hearing it, I did an aural double-take:
http://www.hi-toro.com/misc/perrymasonintro.mp3
Is it just me that hears the start of Trompe le Monde here? Is the Trompe intro a tribute to the Perry intro, with a similar call-and-response opening? For reference...
http://www.hi-toro.com/misc/trompeintro.mp3
Wow, I definitley hear it. It's almost the same!
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
Ireland
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Posted - 01/02/2007 : 11:23:56
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| Hmmm, can't say I really hear that much of a similarity, but it's intriguing none the less. MikeW, where did you hear the bullhorn story? |
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rockmusic84
= Cult of Ray =
USA
256 Posts |
Posted - 01/06/2007 : 18:34:21
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Hey,
Just wanted to say what a neat thread this is! I never really looked at "Trompe" as a concept album, although many of the songs are tied together by a common theme (UFO's, aliens, space, etc...) I've always enjoyed strange and cryptic lyrics, and Frank's chock-full of them!!!
Just curious if anyone knew, weren't "Trompe" and "Nevermind" released on the same day? I believe they were both released in early October of '91. In fact, a friend of mine (who was in college at that time) said that "Nevermind", "BloodSugarSexMagik" by The Red Hot Chili Peppers, and "Ceremony" by The Cult were all released at or around the same time period (must've been great to be an alt-rock fan that autumn!!!).
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MikeW
- FB Fan -
USA
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Posted - 01/06/2007 : 20:27:15
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that means soda
- FB Fan -
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Posted - 04/25/2007 : 18:30:57
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Well I hear the Perry Mason similarity with trompe, its pretty clear.
And about that line, this song is twice occured, while it's true the song repeats its verse's melody twice, I always thought the line refered to the song occuring first in the physical space and then a second time in your brain as your ears and neurones recreate the sounds around.
anyway....
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50 Pence
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
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Posted - 04/26/2007 : 05:18:51
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Trompe le Monde....fool the world.....he has fooled you into running round in circles
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mikaelp75
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Posted - 04/26/2007 : 05:20:39
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Thanks to this thread I no longer think "this song is twice ocurred/and now its time to go/away on holiday" means that Frank thought it was time to break up the band because they were repeating themselves.
Here are some farfetched thoughts:
"and the words/are the letters of the words/said/electrically played"
First I thought that meant that the sounds and chords carried the message rather than the literal meaning of the words, but I tried to think of other possibilities. Somewhere in the back of my head was what Frank said about writing songs, how it was his little way of playing God. You start out with nothing and sit down and create this universe. If the quote above refers to the letters of the word LIFE written on the girl in the first verse's shirt spelled out, and keeping in mind Frank often mixes Spanish (which I don't speak) and English, a very cryptic message would be El I/Eye Hefe E. Hefe=The Boss/Master in Spanish I think, and sounds like the way they pronounce F. E=the energy of the world as in E=mc2? The letter I sounds like Eye, the likeness of the planet/world with the eyeballs on the cover was noted elsewhere.
The girl in the first verse would be Frank's muse (who returns in Letter to Memphis), and I like the idea of a time travel "free freeway". I also think the Gloria theory makes sense in this respect.
I was hoping that through this I would eventually find support for a theory that the song was somehow saying that "I am fooling myself and everybody that this song/what I do has meaning above the personal gratification of creating and then playing it loud", but I can't. Ah well. Still one of my favourite Pixies songs. |
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MHokkane
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Posted - 04/26/2007 : 15:43:20
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| I just gave this CD to my cousin who has never heard the pixies and he LOVES it! Irrelevent to the conversation, but it goes to show the pixies are timeless!! |
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Ziggy
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
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Posted - 04/26/2007 : 17:10:06
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| It was the first Pixies record that I bought, as a matter of fact. |
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fbc
-= Modulator =-
United Kingdom
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Posted - 12/26/2011 : 10:29:29
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20 years of Nevermind celebrations over here with a rerelease etc etc and here I sit listening to Trompe Le Monde released the same year.
Happy Anniversary, Trompe Le Monde!
Today I fell back in love with this song. |
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Mac E. Doobage
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Posted - 12/27/2011 : 05:28:26
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Awwww, that's what I'm Bird dream of the Olympus Monnin' abizznout!
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fbc
-= Modulator =-
United Kingdom
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Posted - 12/27/2011 : 06:55:10
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| =) try saying that with a sausage roll in your mouth. F*ck Santa. I want Frank down my chimney. |
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trompe le monde (the song)
