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interloper
= Cult of Ray =
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 Posted - 09/26/2003 : 10:10:51
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| I get them mixed up. Is Rich Gilbert the guy who looks like Garth on Wayne's World? |
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Chroneos
- FB Fan -
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198 Posts |
Posted - 09/26/2003 : 10:17:07
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He's the guy with red hair and glasses.
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interloper
= Cult of Ray =
440 Posts |
Posted - 09/26/2003 : 10:23:44
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| Sweet. In Cincinatti people were yelling "party on Wayne" at him.....I could really care less what he's like personally. He's a great guitar player. |
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Chroneos
- FB Fan -
USA
198 Posts |
Posted - 09/26/2003 : 10:45:21
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That's strange. ;-)
"I forgot what to put here / So I'll wing it" |
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FrequencyOfGlow
- FB Fan -
USA
157 Posts |
Posted - 09/26/2003 : 11:37:00
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he was super nice when I talked to him in Chicago. Told him I really dug his solo on The Farewell Bend. He signed my hand-scribbled set list.
I like that lemur, I lick it. That's velvety! |
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6188 Posts |
Posted - 09/26/2003 : 13:45:08
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anyone know the coronet premiers?
rich gilberts (ex)band? That some weird shit I tell you
But it's ok, there are real good instrumentals on their album
but damn it's weird
''it's not a box, it's a submarine'' |
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ProverbialCereal
- FB TabMaster -
USA
2953 Posts |
Posted - 09/26/2003 : 18:00:14
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I wonder if Rich Gilbert will join this forum...
If you see a post by Rchrd Glbrt, that may be him.
 "I joined the Incredible Cult of Frank / Then I got pissed and turned green" |
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BrendanT
= Cult of Ray =
Canada
907 Posts |
Posted - 09/27/2003 : 05:56:10
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Sorry to hear about Aunt Mary.
Strummer-man
I had me a vision!
It's step, hip, step, pivot! Are you trying to piss-off the volcano?! |
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anazgnos
= Cult of Ray =
USA
383 Posts |
Posted - 09/28/2003 : 01:57:42
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clearly absolutely no one hear will second the opinion that Rich Gilbert is a snob. Thus, Rich Gilbert is not a snob. I've only seen him with the Catholics three times, but the last time, he was so showily 'rocking out' constantly during the show, kicks and twirls and the like, it was hilarious. The man has a sense of humour, and it's great to see a performer so obviously having a blast up there.
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Superabound666
- FB Fan -
USA
23 Posts |
Posted - 09/28/2003 : 09:08:01
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| I tried to take Rich's picture after a show and he got really cranky about it... I've met Frank several times and sometimes hes really friendly and other times hes been a beoch .. but I really don't care. His genius will always be appreciated here. |
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zephyr
- FB Fan -
USA
2 Posts |
Posted - 09/28/2003 : 11:04:45
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| i love show me your tears. amazing that one man can make so much tremendously wonderful music. i can't believe some of you call yourself fans. it's about the music, not the cover, or the f word. i wonder who will be his lucky sweetheart. |
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Devils Islander
- FB Fan -
United Kingdom
101 Posts |
Posted - 09/28/2003 : 13:32:36
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In a recent interview in "Big Jugs Monthly", Rich Gilbert listed among his hobbies 'selling crack cocaine to small children' and 'strangling dogs'.
...where the Ballyhoos and the Tritons are. |
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MikeW
- FB Fan -
USA
214 Posts |
Posted - 09/29/2003 : 09:58:20
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| I always thought BLack Francis was a major asshole. The few times that I met him while tagging along with my older brother he was a prick. I was about 11 or 12 and I hit him up for an autograph and he walked past me and said "I dont think so". My brother was furious he got the Trompe cd and threw at Francis striking him in the lower back. Francis turned around confused and angry and my brother yelled "you fucking pretentious, balding motherfucker. at least sign something for the little kid(me)". Franis and Feldman looked at my brother, who was sooo mad that he would have taken both those guys out had they tried anything but they opted to walk off. the crowd that was there agreed and said that Black was an asshole. Kim wasnt that much better either, someone spit at her and one guy ran up toher and slapped her ass. Joey and Dave kindly stopped and signed some stuff and Dave apologized on Francis' behalf. He even told us that if we wanted to get on the guest list for the show at San Diego, we said yes. Blah, blah, blah |
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PsychicTwin
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1772 Posts |
Posted - 09/29/2003 : 12:13:23
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Originally posted by MikeW
I always thought BLack Francis was a major asshole. The few times that I met him while tagging along with my older brother he was a prick. I was about 11 or 12 and I hit him up for an autograph and he walked past me and said "I dont think so". My brother was furious he got the Trompe cd and threw at Francis striking him in the lower back. Francis turned around confused and angry and my brother yelled "you fucking pretentious, balding motherfucker. at least sign something for the little kid(me)". Franis and Feldman looked at my brother, who was sooo mad that he would have taken both those guys out had they tried anything but they opted to walk off.
Dude, maybe your immature and retarded reaction can be excused considering what age you were, but the fact that you still hold a grudge goes to show that your perspective is skewed to say the least.
A musicians job (yes, even one you hold in the highest esteem) is to create/play/record/perform music that you can enjoy and delve into. For a musician (who is also a human being with his/her own concerns & moods) to take a few moments to talk to you or sign an autograph and take a quick picture should be seen as a favor, not an obligation. To avoid being redundant, look at Frank's response on the previous page--he pretty much summed it up in a nutshell.
Grow up.
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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Canada
6556 Posts |
Posted - 09/29/2003 : 12:23:24
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Off topic here, but
hey Alex did you ever ever listen to El Rodeo? |
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MikeW
- FB Fan -
USA
214 Posts |
Posted - 09/29/2003 : 14:23:30
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No, I never did hold a grudge, hence, I still listen to his music. I was just telling a story of the past. My brother didnt hold a grudge either, the day was pretty much recouped by Lovering and Santiago. When you are 11 or 12 the fact that he might have been in a hurry does not register to a child. All I knew was hey its Black Francis! I 've been eager to meet him since I was 8 or whatever(my brother was 17). My brothers reaction, looking back was a bit overboard but that was how extreme he behaved. It was his weird way of saving my 11 year old feelings and telling me "who needs him anyway". Oh yeah and for the record, I believe back in the Pixies' days they did have a big crew to help them out. 
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Originally posted by PsychicTwin
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Originally posted by MikeW
I always thought BLack Francis was a major asshole. The few times that I met him while tagging along with my older brother he was a prick. I was about 11 or 12 and I hit him up for an autograph and he walked past me and said "I dont think so". My brother was furious he got the Trompe cd and threw at Francis striking him in the lower back. Francis turned around confused and angry and my brother yelled "you fucking pretentious, balding motherfucker. at least sign something for the little kid(me)". Franis and Feldman looked at my brother, who was sooo mad that he would have taken both those guys out had they tried anything but they opted to walk off.
Dude, maybe your immature and retarded reaction can be excused considering what age you were, but the fact that you still hold a grudge goes to show that your perspective is skewed to say the least.
A musicians job (yes, even one you hold in the highest esteem) is to create/play/record/perform music that you can enjoy and delve into. For a musician (who is also a human being with his/her own concerns & moods) to take a few moments to talk to you or sign an autograph and take a quick picture should be seen as a favor, not an obligation. To avoid being redundant, look at Frank's response on the previous page--he pretty much summed it up in a nutshell.
Grow up.
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PsychicTwin
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1772 Posts |
Posted - 09/30/2003 : 06:13:52
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Carolyn-
Yes I did!! I meant to bring that up to you...
It's a kickass song...I like the little trippy intro that leads into straight up guitar chunk. Awesome suggestion, thank you! I really want to check out some more Kyuss now.
A question for you...what made you recommend the song to me?
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St. Francis
= Cult of Ray =
Canada
548 Posts |
Posted - 09/30/2003 : 07:41:13
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Originally posted by Dave Noisy
haha..far from it! I found him the most approachable member of the band. He's definitely the most exciting to watch. =)
Couldn't agree more with you Dave. Super nice guy who seems interested in fielding all sorts of questions.
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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Canada
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Posted - 09/30/2003 : 08:40:29
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Originally posted by PsychicTwin
Carolyn-
Yes I did!! I meant to bring that up to you...
It's a kickass song...I like the little trippy intro that leads into straight up guitar chunk. Awesome suggestion, thank you! I really want to check out some more Kyuss now.
A question for you...what made you recommend the song to me?
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I think b/c you were saying something about Queens and that made me think of Kyuss, and that pretty much is my favourite Kyuss tune. I freaking love that song, its pretty trippy too, gives me a kind of Sabbath feeling. Anyways I'm glad somebody actually listens to something I suggested. Cheers Alex. |
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Itchload
= Cult of Ray =
USA
891 Posts |
Posted - 09/30/2003 : 09:58:30
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peter radiator
= Cult of Ray =
USA
653 Posts |
Posted - 09/30/2003 : 10:10:46
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Originally posted by frnck blck
you know, sometimes we in the band have shit to do...sometimes we have to take a shit, in fact...sometimes we're in a bad mood because auntie mary died...sometimes we're busy looking for our loved ones who are wandering around the venue...sometimes we're trying to find a pay phone...sometimes we're in a rush because of SOME VERY GOOD REASON...you know, sometimes we just don't have time for you frank black francis...don't take it personally...we try to say hi, sign autographs, acknowledge our patrons, but this is going on 7 days a week, all day and all night, and we just can't come through for you sometimes...trust me, if we could afford to have a big crew taking care of our every need we would have a lot more time to chat and socialize, and if we were not in the mood we would just stay in our hotel suite until showtime. but if my amp breaks one afternoon during a tour, you know who usually ends up fixing it? RICH GILBERT. he is not a snob. he is one of the nicest people i have ever known.
Well put.
People who are not working musicians tend to forget that for every ONE moment they may (or may not) have in direct contact with one of their musical heroes, that hero has had fifteen thousand such moments with people who often look, act or speak exactly like the fan in question.
Most folks who have the back catalog that Mr. Thompson does wouldn't be caught dead lugging their gear around in front of (and sometimes through) crowds of people who line up for days or travel great distances just to be in the same room with them. It can be creepy, boring, infuriating and otherwise uncomfortable.
That said, it can also be a pleasant and inspirational experience for the artist, and I'm sure Frank has had more genuine good times interacting with his audience worldwide than any of us could imagine.
Still, he lives currently in a Mike Watt world of vanagon tours and devoted completists. He's hot and cold like every single one of you and so are his bandmates. That's because – believe it or not – they're just some plain old guys who like to rock and do it well.
They don't owe any of us anything at all. That includes ever making another sound in public or creating more records in any configuration. They certainly don't owe us a handshake, autograph or other personalized memory.
If they don't have the time, energy or slack to offer such niceities, that doesn't mean they're snobs or assholes.
However, if they sometimes get up the nerve to be approachable in that respect, it most certainly means they are friendly to and appreciative of their supporters.
And for what it's worth – I've met and dealt with tons of working musicians at shows, both before during and after. Sometimes as a fan and ticketholder, sometimes as a member of the opening or headlining act, and sometimes as a stage manager or lighting tech. You'd be amazed at the tantrums that some of the true prima donnas throw over inconsequential shit.
From my personal experience on two different occasions, Rich Gilbert has been (without a doubt) one of the most easygoing, talkative, patient cats I've met in this business. I've had in-depth conversations with him after shows that went way beyond what one could expect from someone who was "just being polite". I know from those talks that he is quite enamored with – and proud of – the fanbase The Catholics enjoy.
~ Peter Radiator
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PsychicTwin
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1772 Posts |
Posted - 09/30/2003 : 10:45:46
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[brI think b/c you were saying something about Queens and that made me think of Kyuss, and that pretty much is my favourite Kyuss tune. I freaking love that song, its pretty trippy too, gives me a kind of Sabbath feeling. Anyways I'm glad somebody actually listens to something I suggested. Cheers Alex.
Ah, yes, I seem to remember a conversation along those lines now that you mention it.
I can definitely see a resemblance to Sabbath. Kyuss sound very riff-oriented (much like their progenitors like Fu Manchu)...you can hardly ever go wrong with fat, sweet riffs.
Cheers right back at you for your recommendation, Carolyn!
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Broken Face
-= Forum Pistolero =-
USA
5155 Posts |
Posted - 09/30/2003 : 10:46:59
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as always, well said mr. radiator
and rich was way cool to me - even recommending a kind of pedal steel i should buy.
-brian
- "I joined the Cult of Frank / And they tried to cut off my nuts and make me put on a blue jumpsuit"
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Foucaults Dog
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Posted - 09/30/2003 : 23:38:40
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Originally posted by peter radiator
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Originally posted by frnck blck
you know, sometimes we in the band have shit to do...sometimes we have to take a shit, in fact...sometimes we're in a bad mood because auntie mary died...sometimes we're busy looking for our loved ones who are wandering around the venue...sometimes we're trying to find a pay phone...sometimes we're in a rush because of SOME VERY GOOD REASON...you know, sometimes we just don't have time for you frank black francis...don't take it personally...we try to say hi, sign autographs, acknowledge our patrons, but this is going on 7 days a week, all day and all night, and we just can't come through for you sometimes...trust me, if we could afford to have a big crew taking care of our every need we would have a lot more time to chat and socialize, and if we were not in the mood we would just stay in our hotel suite until showtime. but if my amp breaks one afternoon during a tour, you know who usually ends up fixing it? RICH GILBERT. he is not a snob. he is one of the nicest people i have ever known.
Well put.
People who are not working musicians tend to forget that for every ONE moment they may (or may not) have in direct contact with one of their musical heroes, that hero has had fifteen thousand such moments with people who often look, act or speak exactly like the fan in question.
Most folks who have the back catalog that Mr. Thompson does wouldn't be caught dead lugging their gear around in front of (and sometimes through) crowds of people who line up for days or travel great distances just to be in the same room with them. It can be creepy, boring, infuriating and otherwise uncomfortable.
That said, it can also be a pleasant and inspirational experience for the artist, and I'm sure Frank has had more genuine good times interacting with his audience worldwide than any of us could imagine.
Still, he lives currently in a Mike Watt world of vanagon tours and devoted completists. He's hot and cold like every single one of you and so are his bandmates. That's because – believe it or not – they're just some plain old guys who like to rock and do it well.
They don't owe any of us anything at all. That includes ever making another sound in public or creating more records in any configuration. They certainly don't owe us a handshake, autograph or other personalized memory.
If they don't have the time, energy or slack to offer such niceities, that doesn't mean they're snobs or assholes.
However, if they sometimes get up the nerve to be approachable in that respect, it most certainly means they are friendly to and appreciative of their supporters.
And for what it's worth – I've met and dealt with tons of working musicians at shows, both before during and after. Sometimes as a fan and ticketholder, sometimes as a member of the opening or headlining act, and sometimes as a stage manager or lighting tech. You'd be amazed at the tantrums that some of the true prima donnas throw over inconsequential shit.
From my personal experience on two different occasions, Rich Gilbert has been (without a doubt) one of the most easygoing, talkative, patient cats I've met in this business. I've had in-depth conversations with him after shows that went way beyond what one could expect from someone who was "just being polite". I know from those talks that he is quite enamored with – and proud of – the fanbase The Catholics enjoy.
~ Peter Radiator
"Real music is out there and real people are making it." ~ Webb Wilder
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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Canada
6556 Posts |
Posted - 10/06/2003 : 08:25:50
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Originally posted by PsychicTwin
Carolyn-
Yes I did!! I meant to bring that up to you...
It's a kickass song...I like the little trippy intro that leads into straight up guitar chunk. Awesome suggestion, thank you! I really want to check out some more Kyuss now.
A question for you...what made you recommend the song to me?
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Hey Alex,
My hubby says that you should start with 'Blues for the Red Sky'. He says its the best one. |
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PsychicTwin
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1772 Posts |
Posted - 10/06/2003 : 11:06:46
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'Blues for the Red Sky', eh? I'll jot that down on my albums-to-buy list (a.k.a. the crummy old Post-it Note with chicken-scratches on it that I keep in my wallet)
are you into Queens of the Stone Age at all?
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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Canada
6556 Posts |
Posted - 10/06/2003 : 11:19:50
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| I don't know if I'd trust him though (my husband), he did just pick up a GWAR CD, for real. Well I liked this last QotSA but I honestly never listened to much before, but Mike says he likes the first one better. I'd like Josh Holmes to sing more though. Other than that, I don't know too much;) |
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Bluish Black
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Posted - 10/06/2003 : 12:44:29
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| If I were you I would pick up the 'Welcome to Sky Valley' album at the same time. In my opinion this album is the best rock album ever. It iritates me that I never discovered Kyuss until last year but then I think at least I have found them now. I have got all of their albums and all of the QOTSA albums and all the Desert Session albums(well the last one with PJ Harvey is on order) and they are all great. Another related band to check out is Chris Goss's Masters of Reality. Chris Goss produced 'Blues for a Red Sky', 'Welome to Sky and 'And the Circus Leaves Town' and he has had Josh Homme and Nick Oliveri in his touring band (there is a live album Flak'n'Flight which has that line up). |
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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Canada
6556 Posts |
Posted - 10/06/2003 : 12:46:53
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There you go Alex, a Kyuss expert.
With PJ Harvey? How is that? I'm on a total PJ kick lately. |
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PsychicTwin
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1772 Posts |
Posted - 10/07/2003 : 12:27:45
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Bluish Black -
Thanks for the recommendations. I have heard of Masters of Reality, never checked them out though. Perhaps its about time I do...
I want to pick up some Desert Sessions discs, but aren't there like 7 or 8 of them shitz out? Which one is a good starting point? I have an mp3 off of a Desert Sessions album, called "Idiot's Guide"...i think that song is awesome. Which one is it on?
Carolyn - the most recent Qotsa (Songs for the Deaf) is by far the most hard-hitting and instantly impressive one, I would say. I have all 3 of their albums, and the first one has some really good songs on it, but as a whole album I find it a little too monotonous. I think "Rated R" has some of my favorite songs on it -- 'Better Living Through Chemistry, 'Auto Pilot', and most of all 'Quick and to the Pointless' (i LOVE that fucking song.)
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PsychicTwin
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1772 Posts |
Posted - 10/07/2003 : 12:29:53
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We have successfuly veered 180 degrees off topic! Still, who cares....the topic was a really stupid one anyway.
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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Canada
6556 Posts |
Posted - 10/07/2003 : 12:43:51
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| Um oh yeah, Rich Gilbert seemed pretty nice when I met him ;) |
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djramone
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Posted - 10/07/2003 : 13:57:56
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Originally posted by Broken Face
the only catholic i haven't spoken to is scott - he just always seems so busy
That's because Scott is the tour manager in addition to drummer extrordinaire.
For the record, I've found all the Catholics to be no more or no less friendly then any other person would be when confronted with meeting a complete stranger.
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pacman
- FB Fan -
USA
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Posted - 10/08/2003 : 01:22:59
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I just joined this fancy forum and my original intention was to extend a big old Welcome To Portland(yeah, I just found out) to a dude who I have much admiration for. I quickly found myself getting sucked in to this band-guy character assessment discussion like I had stumbled into a tar pit or something. Come on!?! I'm new meat, so I have no cred's and I won't proliferate with a comment, but I will say that I was stoked to read that Frank has an occasional post here. Are there a lot of other musicians who take time to fart around on the internet with groups of fans?
I don't imagine there are, and that about Frank Black impresses me even more. This next part is for Frank if he happens upon it.
It's fantstic to hear that you are lofting in Portland! I hope you are getting settled in and all that. I am going to keep my eyes peeled(pun intended) for a big banana-flesh colored Cadillac Fleetwood. Not that one would miss such a car if it were anywhere within eyesight?
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Bluish Black
- FB Fan -
United Kingdom
108 Posts |
Posted - 10/09/2003 : 13:52:37
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If you want to listen to the latest Desert Sessions 9 & 10 with Polly Jean Harvey you can do so here
http://www.xfm.co.uk/Article.asp?id=13628
as regards which order to get the others I can only give my preference, if you get them on cd they come in pairs,
so I would check them out in the following order;
Desert Sessions 7&8,
Desert Sessions 1&2,
Desert Sessions 5&6,
Desert Sessions 3&4.
This last one has got a cover of a classic old Groundhogs track called Eccentric Man which was why I got the sessions in the first place.
However the original on Groundhogs "Thank Christ for the Bomb" Album is much better. |
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