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WolfManMikeLonely
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USA
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Posted - 09/25/2003 :  11:17:26  Show Profile  Visit WolfManMikeLonely's Homepage
I wouldn't say that anything Cobain did was a direct rip off per se, maybe an homage to the bands he liked and sometimes when you're writing a song it ends up sounding like what you're listening to at that time anyway it doesn't mean you were necessarily trying to. As far as the Weezer comparison go I've always thought that Weezer sounded a lot like Pavement in most areas in fact I had a friend listening to Slanted and Enchanted with me over the summer that kept swearing we were listening to Weezer... then again that kid was a moron.

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Pootie Tang
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Lesotho
8 Posts

Posted - 09/25/2003 :  13:28:45  Show Profile
u2's walk on and Here comes your man...compare the melodies of both first lines to each song

oh yeah, the obligatory, "...and I'm a BIG fan!!"

man, i can here the nasal whine in your voices when you squeek that out...annoying ass shit

It's all about da ney no, my deybeh!

Edited by - Pootie Tang on 09/25/2003 13:34:47
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
6331 Posts

Posted - 09/25/2003 :  13:39:24  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address
Lot's of breeders songs sound like the pixies
and FB songs too

weird

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Brackish Girl
~ Soul Eater ~

Ireland
1750 Posts

Posted - 09/25/2003 :  13:47:30  Show Profile
i think kim deal got the whole 'in the shade' idea used in 'cannonball' from mrs john murphy's 'gigantic'. bitch.
and as for that frank black, don't even get me started on that 'velvety' song. total rip off of black francis's 'velvety instrumental version'. what a bastard.


"In the Cult of Frank / i will eat you soul...heh."
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ObfuscateByWill
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1887 Posts

Posted - 09/26/2003 :  01:19:58  Show Profile  Visit ObfuscateByWill's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by Lowpresser

stephen malkmus and the jicks have a song on their newest called dark wave that's quite pixie-esque in a highly evolved manner.



It doesn't really sound like anything Frank would have written, but it does sort-of sound like it would have fit in fairly well on Trompe.

To me.


*Shka-pow!

Edited by - ObfuscateByWill on 09/26/2003 01:21:06
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wyggum
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8 Posts

Posted - 09/26/2003 :  09:32:37  Show Profile
The 1982' song from the replacements on their first EP "go".
It recalls me of surfer rosa and bossa nova and nearly everything from nirvana
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Lowpresser
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USA
13 Posts

Posted - 09/26/2003 :  09:56:42  Show Profile  Visit Lowpresser's Homepage
to reiterate. blur's song 2 is an ABSOLUTE rip off of d=rt. anyone else notice this?

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interloper
= Cult of Ray =

440 Posts

Posted - 09/26/2003 :  10:19:57  Show Profile
Brainiac - "Smack Bunny Baby" LP

Pixies fans should worship this band for taking a good thing and molding it into their own. They had to break up because Tim passed away. Would've been huge. Im tellin ya. John is in Enon now, find them as well.
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Useyourname
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185 Posts

Posted - 09/26/2003 :  11:39:13  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by interloper

Brainiac - "Smack Bunny Baby" LP

Pixies fans should worship this band for taking a good thing and molding it into their own. They had to break up because Tim passed away. Would've been huge. Im tellin ya. John is in Enon now, find them as well.



Interloper you are the whole reason I got into Enon after you posted on here about "Rubber Car". BTW I do have Hissing Prigs... by Brainiac.

jimmy

Edited by - Useyourname on 09/26/2003 11:40:10
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massif snake
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United Kingdom
282 Posts

Posted - 09/26/2003 :  14:30:57  Show Profile  Visit massif snake's Homepage  Click to see massif snake's MSN Messenger address
everything the "band" i'm in has done, or ever will do.

have sex with the nuns at my school.
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interloper
= Cult of Ray =

440 Posts

Posted - 09/26/2003 :  14:54:46  Show Profile
Awesome...I live in the town that they sprang from, and that Enon John and Matt, and certain ex Pixies members. All Brainiac is incredible stuff. Enon too. My fave is still Believo.
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oddball
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Germany
245 Posts

Posted - 09/26/2003 :  15:51:56  Show Profile
I think alot of Tuscadero's early stuff sounds like the Pixies. What ever happened to them any way?
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Spiral~Daisy
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Canada
62 Posts

Posted - 09/26/2003 :  18:52:45  Show Profile  Visit Spiral~Daisy's Homepage
I dunno, I am sure the Canadians will notice this, but I have noticed that Treble Charger seems to rip off a few riffs here and there. I mean I dont know if they are even doing it, because it doesnt seem that Treble Charger is even good enough to know who the Pixies are. But anyways, just something I noticed. Or maybe its just me. Ramble ramble.

And the Dandy Warhols sound like the pixies, but thats just my humble opinion.

Edited by - Spiral~Daisy on 09/26/2003 18:53:45
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ObfuscateByWill
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1887 Posts

Posted - 09/27/2003 :  01:16:10  Show Profile  Visit ObfuscateByWill's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by oddball

I think alot of Tuscadero's early stuff sounds like the Pixies. What ever happened to them any way?




I think Melissa joined Hot Pursuit, which has also disbanded(?)

As for the rest of Tuscadero, I dunno.

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night on my side
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20 Posts

Posted - 09/27/2003 :  23:47:55  Show Profile
"Tyler," by the Toadies, is the chords of "Gigantic" with the "Where Is My Mind" lead guitar lines played backward.

Just about everything on the Toadies "Rubberneck" album has a very strong Pixies feel to it. They use similar time signatures and the loud/soft dynamic, with the basslines carring the songs.

Holiday
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TarTar
* Dog in the Sand *

1968 Posts

Posted - 09/28/2003 :  08:52:03  Show Profile
I don't really hear the ABSOLUTE similarity between Blur's "Song 2" and "Distance Equals Rate Times Time". Sure, the first three chords are in the same order, but the main hook of the riff in Blur's "Song 2" is the last part of the riff, which D=RxT does not have. Doesn't matter anyway, cuz "D=RxT" is a direct rip off of the bridge to the original "Subbacultcha".
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ShakeyShake
* Dog in the Sand *

United Kingdom
1058 Posts

Posted - 09/28/2003 :  09:48:40  Show Profile
Um i don't think you can actually rip yourself off

My bone used to have a little machine,i must have misplaced it
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TarTar
* Dog in the Sand *

1968 Posts

Posted - 09/28/2003 :  17:15:36  Show Profile
Sure you can! For example, my friend ripped himself off when he bought the re-release of Trompe Le Monde after I told him it wasn't remastered. He was convinced it would be and that I was misinformed. Was he pissed.
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Robert Onion
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USA
61 Posts

Posted - 09/29/2003 :  03:33:43  Show Profile
Foo Fighters Enough Space sounds like a rip off of Tame. also the Hives I Hate To Say I Told You So sounds like Tame too.
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Lowpresser
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USA
13 Posts

Posted - 09/29/2003 :  12:33:51  Show Profile  Visit Lowpresser's Homepage
there's a cranberries song that rips off tame too. i forget what its called. something like twister or hurricane or something real windy...
its got that same breathy part in it that tame has in it. "uh-huh=uh uh=huh=uh" etc/

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Chip Away Boy
= Cult of Ray =

914 Posts

Posted - 09/29/2003 :  14:06:31  Show Profile
Toadies - Tyler / Pixies - Where is my mind
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ShakeyShake
* Dog in the Sand *

United Kingdom
1058 Posts

Posted - 10/06/2003 :  14:32:56  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by TarTar

Sure you can! For example, my friend ripped himself off when he bought the re-release of Trompe Le Monde after I told him it wasn't remastered. He was convinced it would be and that I was misinformed. Was he pissed.


Heh u convinced me.
Oasis-Cigarettes and alcohol,that came on and i was convinced that iw as listening to cactus,i didn't finish listening to it,as intrigued as i was,i hate oasis

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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =

United Kingdom
17125 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2003 :  10:01:47  Show Profile
Are you lot on drugs???

None of those songs "rip off" tame

I think you are all overstating the Pixes influence a little. They influenced for sure but I have never heard anyone "rip them off". Well excpept Chris Morris but that was a send up and very funny. I think the Pixies are one of those bands that you can't "rip off" 'cos if you tried it would sound too obvious, it would stick out like a sore thumb. I suppose that's part of their genius, they were so unique that nobody could copy them
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
9168 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2003 :  13:17:21  Show Profile  Visit VoVat's Homepage  Click to see VoVat's MSN Messenger address
Really, I think there's a big difference between showing your influences in your music (which I consider to be a good thing) and just trying to be the next Pixies (or whatever band you care to name). A tribute and a rip-off are two very different things, and I think some people will often refer to the former as the latter.

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ShakeyShake
* Dog in the Sand *

United Kingdom
1058 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2003 :  14:24:39  Show Profile
So we're gonna be politically correct and say these bands were "heavily influenced" by the pixies?

My bone used to have a little machine,i must have misplaced it
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =

United Kingdom
17125 Posts

Posted - 10/08/2003 :  11:17:53  Show Profile
OK clam down I was only kidding with the drugs thing but I am pretty sure that The Cranberries, Blur, The Hives and Oasis have not been heavily influenced by the Pixies. I think you've picked the wrong bands there.

VoVat I don't really see what you're getting at 'cos I agree with you. All I was saying (and I think I explained it well enough) is that I have never heard anyone who has ripped off the Pixies, influenced by them yes but not ripped off. There is indeed a big difference.

To be honest with you I am surprised this thread has lasted as long as it has 'cos I really don't think there are that many songs out there that sound like the Pixies to a degree that is worth mentioning


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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
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Posted - 10/08/2003 :  12:33:19  Show Profile  Visit VoVat's Homepage  Click to see VoVat's MSN Messenger address
quote:
VoVat I don't really see what you're getting at 'cos I agree with you.


I was really just giving my thoughts on the thread in general, not replying to any particular post. Now that I think about it, I guess what I said was pretty obvious.

-Nathan
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Old Neptuna
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Ireland
200 Posts

Posted - 10/08/2003 :  13:37:25  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by ShakeyShake

So we're gonna be politically correct and say these bands were "heavily influenced" by the pixies?

My bone used to have a little machine,i must have misplaced it



A lot of bands openly admit this - fair play to them!

(eg. The Frames, Ash, Turn - and that's just the Irish ones)
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =

United Kingdom
17125 Posts

Posted - 10/09/2003 :  09:43:07  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by VoVat

quote:
VoVat I don't really see what you're getting at 'cos I agree with you.


I was really just giving my thoughts on the thread in general, not replying to any particular post. Now that I think about it, I guess what I said was pretty obvious.

-Nathan
And how does lemur's skin reflect the sea?



Yeah you did. I think I was the one on drugs last night.
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LivER_FisH
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South Africa
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Posted - 11/03/2003 :  12:16:33  Show Profile  Click to see LivER_FisH's MSN Messenger address
smells like teen spirit is not a good enough song to compare to the pixies

its nirvana's worst song
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LivER_FisH
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South Africa
57 Posts

Posted - 11/03/2003 :  12:22:23  Show Profile  Click to see LivER_FisH's MSN Messenger address
and for the love of monkeys
stop saying "ooh this sounds like a rip off" or "this band" "rips off" the pixies in "this song"

after you've listened to the pixies it is impossible
to not be influenced by them
even if its subconcious
and those arent "rip offs" their "copying"
a rip off is when u make the pixies sound bad
or u do something to show a flaw in the pixies
and i've never experienced that, everytime a band tries
to rip off the pixies they just end up looking dumb cuz it
back fires cuz the pixies have no flaw

*pixies = perfection hypothesis
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MikeW
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USA
214 Posts

Posted - 11/05/2003 :  15:37:22  Show Profile
The Breeders had a song called "Driving On 9". Meanwhile Black Francis sings "I was driving on the 9" in the Happenning. What the hell Kim?
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ShakeyShake
* Dog in the Sand *

United Kingdom
1058 Posts

Posted - 11/05/2003 :  15:42:09  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by MikeW

The Breeders had a song called "Driving On 9". Meanwhile Black Francis sings "I was driving on the 9" in the Happenning. What the hell Kim?


Wasn't that "I was driving doing nothing.."?

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ShakeyShake
* Dog in the Sand *

United Kingdom
1058 Posts

Posted - 11/05/2003 :  15:44:56  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by LivER_FisH

and for the love of monkeys
stop saying "ooh this sounds like a rip off" or "this band" "rips off" the pixies in "this song"

after you've listened to the pixies it is impossible
to not be influenced by them
even if its subconcious
and those arent "rip offs" their "copying"
a rip off is when u make the pixies sound bad
or u do something to show a flaw in the pixies
and i've never experienced that, everytime a band tries
to rip off the pixies they just end up looking dumb cuz it
back fires cuz the pixies have no flaw

*pixies = perfection hypothesis


Terribly sorry,you're obviously a more superior pixies fan than us little people

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MikeW
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USA
214 Posts

Posted - 11/05/2003 :  16:27:08  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by ShakeyShake

quote:
Originally posted by MikeW

The Breeders had a song called "Driving On 9". Meanwhile Black Francis sings "I was driving on the 9" in the Happenning. What the hell Kim?


Wasn't that "I was driving doing nothing.."?

My bone used to have a little machine,i must have misplaced it



He sings that as well but then he goes to: "I was driving on the 9 and all across the AM band".

Edited by - MikeW on 11/06/2003 07:19:21
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