Bluefinger (spoilers)

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Topic author: Llamadance
Subject: Bluefinger (spoilers)
Posted on: 03/27/2007 00:17:08
Message:

Discussion about the leak goes in here to save anyone who doesn't have it from having to read about it.

So lyrics, theories, tabs etc... all in here.

I'll get the ball rolling.....

Replies:

Reply author: Llamadance
Replied on: 03/27/2007 00:19:08
Message:

Your Mouth Into Mine



Hey! Where you Going?
Hahahaha

All my days i've been listening you pray
I've spent all my days driving, all my nights trying
You are so big but that don't make me so small
You rule the world but now I am standing tall

I'm taking your mouth into mine
Take it in now, take it in now, now, now, now
Been waiting all my days for you now, been waiting all my

Got into your parts and I made you squeal
And I got into your heart it was no big deal
And I'm, taking your mouth into mine

Take it in now, take it in now, now, now, now
Been waiting all my days to get on that, been waiting all my
Taking your mouth into mine, suck it in now, suck it in now, now now, now
Been waiting all my days to get on that, waiting all my

I'm taking your mouth

Got into your parts and I got into your charts
and I'm taking your mouth,
I'm taking your mouth, I'm taking your mouth, taking your mouth
I'm taking your mouth, I'm taking your mouth

Reply author: benji
Replied on: 03/27/2007 00:34:51
Message:

i just love the album.
so raw and loud and brilliant.
can't wait for the official release and get it on cd and play it loud.
sure, mp3's are good, but i want a proper version.

threshold apprehension is a pure standout, along with tight black rubber for me.

so good to see frank back on form..

Reply author: Apesy
Replied on: 03/27/2007 00:42:34
Message:

Is "Threshold Apprehension" real? Holy shit.

This is such an interesting album. Half sounds like material he wrote for the apparently-not-happening Pixies album ("Threshold Apprehension" and "Tight Black Rubber", for instance), and the other outtakes from FMRM recorded with a rawer band ("Discotheque 36" and "Bluefinger").

I appreciate, most of all, how this return to rock doesn't seem forced.

-=Apesy

Reply author: remig
Replied on: 03/27/2007 01:09:10
Message:

Treshold Apprehension makes me wanna dance like a teenager.
This song is a massive hit. It sounds like a mix of "Fight for your right (to party)" and "Speedy Marie".

Reply author: vilainde
Replied on: 03/27/2007 01:12:42
Message:

Does anyone else think about The Rapture when listening to Threshold? It sounds a bit disco-ish to me. Like if all the new mutant-disco-whatever bands started writing great songs.


Denis

Reply author: Llamadance
Replied on: 03/27/2007 01:12:59
Message:

that's just about the first thing I thought when I heard Threshold, "this sounds like the Beastie Boys"

Reply author: remig
Replied on: 03/27/2007 01:14:21
Message:

I love the sound of this album, it reminds me of the Peel Sessions with Teenage Fanclub for the raw telecaster sound, and the good old days with the Catholics. Lolita is a good example.

Fuck, I've never enjoyed a new Frank album as much since Dog In The Sand

Reply author: Cheeseman1000
Replied on: 03/27/2007 01:29:26
Message:

I've never enjoyed a new Frank Black album this much full-stop. For me it's by far the best thing he's produced in what, 13 years? Since TOTY. There's so much energy, and the songs take the best bits from his entire career.

I think the Nashville stuff was FB trying to do something he just isn't very good at. Bluefinger is doing exactly what he's best at.

Reply author: vilainde
Replied on: 03/27/2007 01:35:32
Message:

"Best thing since TOTY" is unfair IMO. I'd say, best thing since FB&TC (the album). Although I loooooooooove BLD.


Denis

Reply author: Llamadance
Replied on: 03/27/2007 02:13:57
Message:

Haven't given my opinion on it yet. I think there are some instant songs on it (Threshold, YCBAHAHI) and then having listened a few times some growers (D36 & Lolita). Easily the best thing he's done since BLD, and is probably as cohesive an album as FB has ever produced.

(I'm not a nashville hater btw, I like Honeycomb)

Reply author: billgoodman
Replied on: 03/27/2007 02:23:35
Message:

I love all the references in the lyrics to a certain place
we pretty much can crack the 'were in the world is frank black'-mystery


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BF: Mag ik Engels spreken?

Reply author: billgoodman
Replied on: 03/27/2007 02:31:20
Message:

and btw this album sums up what is great about Frank
There's not one FB album I would like to miss, but this record
surpasses a lot of them. It's got the drive of the catholics first and the opening of TOTY,
but there are some great backing vocals reminding me of Kim Deal/Dave McCaffrey and the great Honeycomb backing vox.
What about the melodies? I absolutely love this one...damn!

This is our daily bread (don't you love this coastline?)

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BF: Mag ik Engels spreken?

Reply author: Cheeseman1000
Replied on: 03/27/2007 02:38:40
Message:

quote:

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Originally posted by vilainde

"Best thing since TOTY" is unfair IMO. I'd say, best thing since FB&TC (the album). Although I loooooooooove BLD.


Denis

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"Can you hear me? I aint got shit to say."

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Reply author: PixieSteve
Replied on: 03/27/2007 02:45:04
Message:

so vilainde, do you think COR is better than everything from FB&TC to BF?

oh no, me understand now. i might not disagree.

Reply author: PixieSteve
Replied on: 03/27/2007 02:52:25
Message:

quote:

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Originally posted by benji


sure, mp3's are good, but i want a proper version.

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all i can say, thank god for polio! brian

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Reply author: Cartland
Replied on: 03/27/2007 03:32:14
Message:

My God. This album is a masterpiece.

Reply author: Conrad
Replied on: 03/27/2007 03:49:31
Message:

quote:

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Originally posted by Cartland

My God. This album is a masterpiece.

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Reply author: coastline
Replied on: 03/27/2007 04:01:42
Message:

quote:

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Originally posted by billgoodman

This is our daily bread (don't you love this coastline?)

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quote:

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Originally posted by frnck blck


I make the album of that
And the opera of the large kroost
The general admittingness
Of the night of Saturday
Is perhaps new the fact
That titled blue finger
Is because of this city
In the Netherlands
That the place of birth he made this
So that much of large arts is

And this blue finger report
Still has onvermengd
And which numbering songs
From eleven in the summer 2007
Was solved
Was solved
Was solved

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Reply author: vilainde
Replied on: 03/27/2007 04:15:37
Message:

Why are you both so secret about what BF is about, when you made a thread in the General chat about it? I thought everyone knew about it by now.

Then again, I'd never have guessed since I have no idea of who that guy is (was), so thanks for the tip.


Denis

Reply author: vilainde
Replied on: 03/27/2007 04:22:53
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quote:

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Originally posted by PixieSteve

so vilainde, do you think COR is better than everything from FB&TC to BF?

oh no, me understand now. i might not disagree.

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FAST_MAN RAIDER_MAN - June 19th

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Reply author: remig
Replied on: 03/27/2007 05:15:57
Message:

I've seen on a Radiohead forum, while googling for Bluefinger, someone called Banister sharing it.

That's not fair.

Reply author: coastline
Replied on: 03/27/2007 05:32:38
Message:

Those pricks. We (the collective members of the fb.net forum) should have a war with the Radiohead forum.

(I'm only half-joking.)

Reply author: Czar
Replied on: 03/27/2007 05:58:25
Message:

Can't Break a Heart... is a Sonic Youth song.

Reply author: 999
Replied on: 03/27/2007 05:59:43
Message:

will somebody please share this new masterpiece please!

Reply author: billgoodman
Replied on: 03/27/2007 06:22:23
Message:

quote:

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Originally posted by vilainde

Why are you both so secret about what BF is about, when you made a thread in the General chat about it? I thought everyone knew about it by now.

Then again, I'd never have guessed since I have no idea of who that guy is (was), so thanks for the tip.


Denis

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"Can you hear me? I aint got shit to say."

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Reply author: remig
Replied on: 03/27/2007 06:25:28
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quote:

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Originally posted by 999

will somebody please share this new masterpiece please!

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Reply author: 999
Replied on: 03/27/2007 06:45:05
Message:

I dont need to discuss anything. I have every Pixies album and every solo Frank album aside from SMYT. I keep hearing nothing but praise for this new album, and I'm dying to hear it. I might be a newbie on the forum but I am definately not a newbie to FB.

Reply author: Schitzophonic
Replied on: 03/27/2007 06:48:49
Message:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SObtaJLekSs

Reply author: Llamadance
Replied on: 03/27/2007 06:58:48
Message:

Now that's a good find!

Reply author: jediroller
Replied on: 03/27/2007 07:10:19
Message:

I thought the Lolita connection was one of the most obvious ones (Lola). Stop fooling around and get down to work! We have an album to decrypt here.

Well dug up Schitzo - that's one song less to pick apart.

You can confirm the genuineness of the deceased death by clicking on this website

Reply author: anazgnos
Replied on: 03/27/2007 07:10:54
Message:

One song that's really knocking me out is "Angels Come to Comfort You".

Reply author: anazgnos
Replied on: 03/27/2007 07:14:54
Message:

Speaking of "Angels...", what's that first line?

"I Saw the statue of Herman Brood [Brode?] / it had a lump way down in it's throat / he played piano really fuckin' good...he was a slave to junk, etc."

So that's it, eh?

Is anybody on the acrostics yet?

Reply author: anazgnos
Replied on: 03/27/2007 07:17:24
Message:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herman_Brood

Reply author: Llamadance
Replied on: 03/27/2007 07:20:33
Message:

yep anazgnos, the theory is that the album is all about Herman Brood in various ways.

Reply author: Llamadance
Replied on: 03/27/2007 07:23:26
Message:

quote:

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The general admittingness
Of the night of Saturday

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Reply author: coastline
Replied on: 03/27/2007 07:33:53
Message:

quote:

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Originally posted by Schitzophonic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SObtaJLekSs

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Reply author: coastline
Replied on: 03/27/2007 07:34:42
Message:

quote:

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Originally posted by Llamadance

quote:

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The general admittingness
Of the night of Saturday

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so that part is about their (Herman Brood & his wild romance) first hit, yeah?

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Reply author: Grotesque
Replied on: 03/27/2007 07:36:28
Message:

quote:

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Originally posted by PixieSteve

you didn't get the AIFF version?

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FAST_MAN  RAIDER_MAN - June 19th

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Reply author: Cheeseman1000
Replied on: 03/27/2007 07:44:49
Message:

Okey doke, can someone elaborate on the theory that it's the whole album rather than just this song?

Reply author: coastline
Replied on: 03/27/2007 07:55:08
Message:

Sure, Cheeseman. A few examples, though I could really write a gigantic dissertation on it:

The song "Bluefinger" is sung from the point of view of Herman Brood reflecting on his life and his suicide. A bluefinger is a person from Zwolle, Holland, which is where Brood was from. He sings about coming down from the hill and then checks in to the hotel, and that's where he jumped to his death.

"Discotheque 36" is about a club in Amsterdam called Discotheque 36 on the Richter Scale, which is where Brood met his wife Alexandra (she's mentioned by name in the song).

"Captain Pasty" seems to be about looking up at Brood as he's about to jump off the hotel roof. "Captain Pasty, please report to the tarmac for a very important assignment. Godspeed." And "Test Pilot Blues" makes similar, veiled references to Brood's "flight."

Um, what else is there, Jop? I'm forgetting already. "Lolita" seems to be about his daughter Lola. Somebody suggested to me that "She Took All The Money" is about Nina Hagen, with whom Brood was romantically involved. Several references in that song to Germany, where Hagen is from.

Anybody else got more? I really need to transcribe the lyrics so I can get these things down. Most of the time, I just notice the lines as they go by in my headphones.

Reply author: Llamadance
Replied on: 03/27/2007 07:55:20
Message:

Pasty - drugs
Threshold - his suicide
Pilot - suicide
Lolita - to his daughter (?)
rubber - drugs
Angels - his suicide
Mouth - hmm, sex?
D36 - meeting his wife
heart - a cover
Money - Nina Hagen (?)
Bluefinger - Brood looking back

Reply author: coastline
Replied on: 03/27/2007 07:58:26
Message:

Oh, and I've got a theory on "Your Mouth Into Mine" that is really tenuous at best. I think he's singing to ... well, it sounds dumb to say it out loud ... a river. Don't know what river. Help me out, Jop. What river goes by Zwolle? I really think he's singing to some body of water, if not a river. (As in, the mouth of a river.) When I listen to it that way, it makes some sense, but I'm not really sure.

There are lots of references to drinking from this or that on the album, and mostly in a metaphorical sense, not like drinking from a bottle.

Reply author: Llamadance
Replied on: 03/27/2007 08:01:58
Message:

I like to think Mouth is about an eclipse, you know, the moon into the sun. I've no idea how it would fit.

Reply author: billgoodman
Replied on: 03/27/2007 08:34:17
Message:

Lola admitted to the dutch press that she wanted to explore the same drugs her father did.
Maybe that's what Lolita is about, because she was confronted with a lot of critic.

Also, Frank says something about salty drop which is a dutch candy

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BF: Mag ik Engels spreken?

Reply author: anazgnos
Replied on: 03/27/2007 08:37:17
Message:

I suppose reading "Your Mouth..." as being blatantly sexual would just be to obvious...?

Reply author: coastline
Replied on: 03/27/2007 08:52:37
Message:

Here are the lyrics. To whoever complained a couple months ago that FB wasn't writing songs with weird structures anymore, try this one on for size. I can't make heads or tails of verses or choruses. I really like how he does that weird thing where alternates lines without finishing them. He did that at least once before -- I think it was in "I've Seen Your Picture."

All my days I've been listening you play
I've spent all my days, driving all my nights, trying
You are so big, but that don't make me so small
You rule the world, but now I am standing so tall

I'm taking your mouth into mine
Take it in now
Take it in now now now now
Been waiting all my days for you now
Been waiting all my

Got into your parts, and I
Made you squeal, and I
Got into you heart, it was
No big deal, and I'm

Taking your mouth into mine
Take it in now
Take it in now now now now
Been waiting all my days to get on that
Been waiting all my
Taking your mouth into mine
Suck it in now
Suck it in now now now now
Been waiting all my days to get on that
Waiting on my

I'm taking your mouth
Got into your parts, and I
Got into your charts, and I'm
Taking your mouth
I'm taking your mouth
I'm taking your mouth
Taking your mouth
Taking your mouth
I'm taking your mouth

Reply author: Kirk
Replied on: 03/27/2007 09:14:36
Message:

i must be crazy, but I hear a lot of Shudder to Think in the guitar. It's raw and artsy.

Reply author: Kirk
Replied on: 03/27/2007 09:29:07
Message:

Needs work on:

10 She Took All The Money

Shamalama Ding Dang.
Oh me, oh my.
She took all the money and left me here to cry.

On my way to a Hamburg and we had a little wooze
Now I’m stuck in Dresden with the solitary blues.

Shamalama Ding Dang.
Oh me, oh my.
She took all the money and left me here to cry.

I have my habits.
I can not lie.
But I don’t want to go through this again.

Shamalama Ding Dang
Oh me, oh my.
She took all the money and hung me out to dry.

On my way to central station
There my train departs
Why should she have to go and break our hearts?

Shamalama Ding Dang
Oh me, oh my.
She took all the money and now I can’t get by.

Don’t want her loving
And I don’t want her new address.
I don’t want to know the reason why.

Shamalama Ding Dang
Oh me, oh my.
She took all the money and left me here to die

Shamalama Ding Dang
Oh me, oh my.
She took all the money and left me here to die

Reply author: Kirk
Replied on: 03/27/2007 09:29:40
Message:

Needs work:

Bluefinger

Well, I am a bluefinger
From Up on the hill
Above the dark water that’s flowing there still
But my blood is a silo
And I’d rather still
I came down from the top
And I drank every drop

I will feel the ???
And I got on the train
The pepper box been blowing my brains
But I made it go quicker with Spanish cocaine
And I looked at the cows
And I missed all the vows

If my choices are poor
Would I have made them (I made them)
I made them (I made them)
And who’s knocking on my door?
I paid them. I paid them.

If my choices are poor
I made them (I made them)
I made them (I made them)
And who’s knocking on my door?
I paid them. I paid them.

I don’t need the do-not-disturb-me sign
The manager here is a friend of mine
So lady let’s go just one more time
I’m a jumping jack with this thing on my back

And all of my choices were pure
Yeah, I made them (I made them)
I made them (I made them)
And who’s that knocking on my door
Well, I paid them. Yeah, I hate them.

Reply author: anazgnos
Replied on: 03/27/2007 09:42:34
Message:

And, oh, big breakthrough here...that explains the Dutch posts thing.

Reply author: PixieSteve
Replied on: 03/27/2007 09:42:37
Message:

the fullstops are funny

Reply author: Kirk
Replied on: 03/27/2007 09:44:23
Message:

Needs work:

You Can't Break A Heart And Have It

You can shoot the breeze
You can shoot your shit.
You can shoot it up
Ah, you can shoot from the hip

You can’t break the rules
You can’t break your balls
You can’t break your neck
You can’t break your back

But you can’t break my heart and have it
You can’t break my heart and have it
You can’t break my heart and have it
You can’t break my heart and have it

You can shoot the breeze
You can shoot your shit.
You can shoot it up
Ah, you can shoot to Berlin

You can’t break the rules
You can’t break your neck
You can’t break your balls
You could break your back

But you can’t break a heart and have it
You can’t break a heart and have it
You can’t break a heart and have it
You can’t break a heart and have it

You can’t break a heart and have it
You can’t break a heart and have it
You can’t break a heart and have it
You can’t break a heart and have it

You can’t break a heart and have it
You can’t break a heart and have it
You can’t break a heart and have it
(mountain man scream)

You can shoot the breeze
Or you can shoot your shit
You can’t shoot it up
Ah, you can shoot from the hip

You’re gonna lose your mind

Or you can lose your quick
You can lose your Louisiana
You can shoot to Berlin

You could break the rules
Or you can break your balls
You can break your back, break your back
You could break your neck

Ah, You can’t break a heart and have it
Break a heart and have it
You can’t break a heart and have it
You can’t break a heart and have it

You can’t break a heart and have it
You can’t break a heart and have it
You can’t break a heart and have it
No!

Reply author: Grotesque
Replied on: 03/27/2007 09:50:07
Message:

(!!!!!!!!!!!!)
That's so original to make an album about a rocker that is not American or English.
Because they're so sytematically unknown outside of their country.
For example in Argentina we have this guy Luca Prodan (also an heroin addict) who made a post punk band called Sumo. A (death) superstar here, but totally unknown outside of argentina...

The youtube video of Heart is huge. The piano chords are incredible.
Was Holland Town already about him? If it is the case, we can expect a punk'n'roll version of Holland town in the upcoming shows!

Reply author: anazgnos
Replied on: 03/27/2007 10:32:14
Message:

Oh, and that one song that has the siren...probabbly a Dutch siren, yeah?

Reply author: Ziggy
Replied on: 03/27/2007 10:33:13
Message:

Yeah, well done guys, makes an awful lot of sense now.

Reply author: benji
Replied on: 03/27/2007 11:30:00
Message:

quote:

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Originally posted by PixieSteve

quote:

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Originally posted by benji


sure, mp3's are good, but i want a proper version.

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you didn't get the AIFF version?

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Reply author: Llamadance
Replied on: 03/27/2007 11:54:18
Message:

Here's my lyrics for Captain Pasty. It's pretty difficult to hear some of the words, so critique away.

Captain Pasty

Captain Pasty

awwww huh huhuhu

I'm a captain in the flying Corp
I find the farmers a super bore
There was a swarm when I'm in the air
The universe it don't make me scared. Ow!

I'm a zipper in a metal mule
I'm a sip of rocket fuel
I see my friends take less and die
I'm guess I'm lucky to a be alive

Don't take your eyes off Captain Pasty
High in the skies of alabaster faces
Don't take your eyes off Captain Pasty

Even better I'm a mother's son
Love the rattle of a melting gun
We must attack when they flee and hiss
See my fans in the Bay of Bis

Don't take your eyes off Captain Pasty
High in the skies of alabaster faces
Don't take your eyes off Captain Pasty

Captain Pasty please report to the tarmac for very important assignments
God speed.

Don't take your eyes off Captain Pasty
High in the skies of alabaster faces
Don't take your eyes off Captain Pasty

Hang on baby I'm a bit a fast
Present future and the future past
Tells me something I don't wanna know
So I ........

Don't take your eyes off Captain Pasty
High in the skies of alabaster faces
Don't take your eyes off Captain Pasty

Reply author: Carl
Replied on: 03/27/2007 12:02:53
Message:

You Can't Break A Heart is a Herman Brood cover? Wow!

Hehe, I feel kinda guilty posting about hearing it, but since every else has chirped up....it's a great combination of punky and mellow, and has grabbed me on first listen. And yeah, the lyrics are crazy and a bit rude sounding!! Favorites so far, as far as I can remember after a first listen, include Angels Come To Comfort You (isn't this about Herman Brood? love that choir!), Captain Patsy, and Heart (Violet's vocals are particularly good on this).

Reply author: coastline
Replied on: 03/27/2007 12:07:16
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Originally posted by Carl

You Can't Break A Heart is a Herman Brood cover? Wow!

Hehe, I feel kinda guilty posting about hearing it, but since every else has chirped up....it's a great combination of punky and mellow, and has grabbed me on first listen. And yeah, the lyrics are crazy and a bit rude sounding!! Favorites so far, as far as I can remember after a first listen, include Angels Come To Comfort You (isn't this about Herman Brood? love that choir!), Captain Patsy, and Heart (Violet's vocals are particularly good on this).

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Reply author: darwin
Replied on: 03/27/2007 12:19:55
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quote:

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Originally posted by Grotesque

(!!!!!!!!!!!!)
That's so original to make an album about a rocker that is not American or English.
Because they're so sytematically unknown outside of their country.
For example in Argentina we have this guy Luca Prodan (also an heroin addict) who made a post punk band called Sumo. A (death) superstar here, but totally unknown outside of argentina...

The youtube video of Heart is huge. The piano chords are incredible.
Was Holland Town already about him? If it is the case, we can expect a punk'n'roll version of Holland town in the upcoming shows!

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Reply author: wanderer1
Replied on: 03/27/2007 12:34:16
Message:

Ok, here comes the newbie with the inevitable pixies comparison. You have been forewarned!

Seriously, this album is so refreshing and makes me not afraid of a new pixies album.

I am a longtime pixies fan and just recently got into the Frank Black solo stuff. In a three month period I digested his entire back catalog and was confused, intrigued, thrilled, & disappointed all at the same time. NOTHING sounded like the pixies to me, not even his voice. This was the initial let down but slowly I began to appreciate the greatness of Bullet, Massif Centrale, Speedy Marie, His kingly cave, etc.

This new album Bluefinger gives me the Pixies vibe more than the rest of the solo work (with the exception of the first album). He twists his voice for a split second in songs like Lolita, tight black rubber, You can’t break a heart, and I instantly went, “That’s the voice!, the Pixies voice!”. There is even a female background vocalist (his wife?) which makes this album scream “Aborted Pixies demo album!”.

Overall sound of the album is raw and under produced. Reminds me of some of the Frank Black and the Catholics albums.

So in a nutshell, 80% of the album sounds like a great mix of all the elements of Frank Black’s back catalog, with a 20% Pixies vibe. Still, I wish he would have made the album denser. Everything sounds like a one-man demo with a couple session players. He should have had Joey & Dave play on the tracks and then leaked it as a Pixies demo album.

Reply author: benji
Replied on: 03/27/2007 12:41:32
Message:

i'm wondering whether anyone knows who the others in the band are?
jason and dan??
who are these guys?

blackVOCALGUITARHARMONICA
jasonDRUMS
danBASS
violetVOCAL

produced by mark

Reply author: billgoodman
Replied on: 03/27/2007 13:46:26
Message:

quote:

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Originally posted by Grotesque

quote:

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Originally posted by anazgnos

Oh, and that one song that has the siren...probabbly a Dutch siren, yeah?

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OK master of english, I'll wait for you at the Jacques Tati corner.

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Reply author: PixieSteve
Replied on: 03/27/2007 13:49:10
Message:

some people die then they start to get old, but i wanna die upon the threshold

Reply author: pixiestu
Replied on: 03/27/2007 13:50:30
Message:

I felt guilty posting about this album the other night since others might not have it so I deleted my post from the other thread, but since everyone else is now talking about it I must say it's really great.

After about 10 listens my favourites are 'Threshold Apprehenshion', 'Angels Come...' and 'Discotheque 36'. Weakest are YCBAHAHI and Your Mouth Into Mine.

Oh and I've never heard of Herman Brood. But whatever.

Reply author: Kirk
Replied on: 03/27/2007 14:00:50
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quote:

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Originally posted by benji
danBASS

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Reply author: coastline
Replied on: 03/27/2007 14:17:25
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quote:

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Originally posted by Kirk

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Originally posted by benji
danBASS

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I also want to know who this guy is. IMO, it's the most intriguing bass playing since the Pixies.

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Reply author: Tiny Team Concerts
Replied on: 03/27/2007 14:47:11
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I have not heard a single track from this album, and do not have a copy. (Anyone, anyone? Bueller?)

However, while some folks are wondering what this song is "about," based merely on the transcribed lyrics, it seems fairly obvious to me that this is a straightforward, confessional tip of the hat.

Much like "Angst."

Dig:

quote:

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Originally posted by Llamadance

Your Mouth Into Mine

Hey! Where you Going?
Hahahaha

All my days i've been listening you pray
I've spent all my days driving, all my nights trying
You are so big but that don't make me so small
You rule the world but now I am standing tall

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quote:

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I'm taking your mouth into mine
Take it in now, take it in now, now, now, now
Been waiting all my days for you now, been waiting all my

Got into your parts and I made you squeal
And I got into your heart it was no big deal
And I'm, taking your mouth into mine

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quote:

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Take it in now, take it in now, now, now, now
Been waiting all my days to get on that, been waiting all my
Taking your mouth into mine, suck it in now, suck it in now, now now, now
Been waiting all my days to get on that, waiting all my

I'm taking your mouth

Got into your parts and I got into your charts
and I'm taking your mouth,
I'm taking your mouth, I'm taking your mouth, taking your mouth
I'm taking your mouth, I'm taking your mouth

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Reply author: coastline
Replied on: 03/27/2007 14:53:57
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You absolutely nailed it, TTC. That idea never occurred to me, but it seems very very clear now. Damn, I love Frank Black. This album is the most fun I've had with a piece of music in ages.

Reply author: Grotesque
Replied on: 03/27/2007 15:22:31
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quote:

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Originally posted by Kirk

quote:

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Originally posted by benji
danBASS

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I also want to know who this guy is. IMO, it's the most intriguing bass playing since the Pixies.

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Reply author: Kirk
Replied on: 03/27/2007 16:26:44
Message:

according to http://bluefinger-tribute.blogspot.com/], there's already a fan-video of 'Captain Pasty'

Reply author: Czar
Replied on: 03/27/2007 16:31:52
Message:

Anybody noticed how Angels is a smooth transition from the Catholics days? And nobody noticed how Rubber sounds like The Breeders?

This is an excellent album. Love it. Praise the angel who put it in my inbox. I will buy two copies to cover my sin.

Reply author: Daisy Girl
Replied on: 03/27/2007 16:38:06
Message:

your mouth into mine?







all artwork by herman brood


bluefinger

Reply author: Daisy Girl
Replied on: 03/27/2007 16:55:37
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Test Pilot blues?










all paintings by herman brood


bluefinger

Reply author: Apesy
Replied on: 03/27/2007 18:27:02
Message:

Bingo.

Good finds.

-=Apesy

Reply author: Mac E. Doobage
Replied on: 03/27/2007 18:33:27
Message:

I love the song Fingabang Rec.

Reply author: benji
Replied on: 03/27/2007 18:44:07
Message:

i'm totally in love with the bass playing on this record.
i know that with the 3 piece the bass is generally a bit higher in the mix, but on some of these songs, especially tight black rubber, it's like the bass is playing lead and franks guitar is just there to add texture...
absolutely brilliant.

Reply author: 999
Replied on: 03/27/2007 19:25:48
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Could one of yous guys who has these mp3's PLEASE share them with me. I'm dying to hear this album!!!

Reply author: Carl
Replied on: 03/27/2007 19:41:39
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Yeah, good detective work, Daisy!

Reply author: frankblackphx
Replied on: 03/27/2007 20:32:15
Message:

It is amazing and incredible getting another FB release. He is such an amazing songwriter. I feel so lucky and honored to be a fan and listen to his songs. I always have such a sense of sadness after I get done listening to an FB release for the first time. It is always a surreal and special moment to hear his work for the first time.

This is not to be negative at all. Just my initial opinion. After my first listen I just think Bluefinger is okay. Like most of FB's albums they always seem to take a few listens to really get into. I do not hear any TOTY in these tracks at all. The song from his past catalog that I think would fit perfectly on this album is A Dab'll Do You. It is the most quirkiest album he has done in a long time.

I wish the guitar and vocals were a little more produced. I really enjoyed the chorus of Bluefinger but his singing seemed to be sung out of tune on purpose. I actually really missed some lead guitar work. I thought the drums and bass were excellent.

I thought Violet's vocals were beautiful and was a pleasent surprise. The 4 songs that really jumped out at me were Captain Pasty, Threshold Apprehension, Test Pilot Blues & Discotheque 36. Some great melodies and memorable songs. I was signing along after hearing them for the first time. I especially thought Discotheque 36 was the best song after the first listen.

Thanks for all of the insight on Herman Brood. I think it really helped me listen to the album amd enjoy it a little more with that information.

Like I said I hope this grows on me a little more. After the comparisons to TOTY my expectations were really high as that is my favorite album of all time. Not sure why the nashville sessions get a bad rap but I think FMRM is one of his best. I have come to love FB's pure singing voice.

Great Job again FB. Thanks again for all of the awesome tunes.

Thanks so much to the person who graciously shared this with me. You're the best.

Dan

Here I am for your judgement
When the paint grows darker still

Reply author: kfs
Replied on: 03/27/2007 22:08:36
Message:

My guess...

quote:

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Originally posted by Kirk

Needs work on:

10 She Took All The Money

Shamalama Ding Dang.
Oh me, oh my.
She took all the money and left me here to cry.

On my way to a Hamburg and we had a little booze
Now I’m stuck in Dresden with the solitary blues.

Shamalama Ding Dang.
Oh me, oh my.
She took all the money and left me here to cry.

I have my habits.
I can not lie.
But I don’t want to go through this again.

Shamalama Ding Dang
Oh me, oh my.
She took all the money and hung me out to dry.

On my way to central station
There my train departs
Why should she have to go and break our hearts?

Shamalama Ding Dang
Oh me, oh my.
She took all the money and now I can’t get by.

Don’t want her loving
And I don’t want her new address.
I don’t want to know the reason why.

Shamalama Ding Dang
Oh me, oh my.
She took all the money and left me here to die

Shamalama Ding Dang
Oh me, oh my.
She took all the money and left me here to die

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Reply author: IceManCometh
Replied on: 03/27/2007 22:12:46
Message:

Well, I had to listen. I just couldn't help it. I do worry about these things a bit. I hope everyone ends up buying the record, if there is a record that's officially released. Stange, hearing this so soon, so early, before there's even a release date inked.

As I'm sure I've mentioned many times before, I bought Doolittle the day it was released, on a whim, looking for something new. Have been a die-hard ever since. Every record bought, countless FB shows, etc.

I remember an interview with Frank Black (then Black Francis) way back when in Melody Maker (before it was a joke) wherein he said that the Pixies' music was all about capturing that elusive "eargasm." That bit of friction, that abrasiveness, a combination of the foreign and the familiar---it became something I craved in the Pixies work, and then in Frank Black's subsequent solo work. It even became an aesthetic of mine, in my own work.

I always like FB's material. Always. But this is the first record since Dog in the Sand that's given me those goosebumps I've missed (yeah, it sounds corny, but hey, it's the truth). I like FB when he's going against the grain, embracing friction, throwing in that odd chord, singing a little out of key, tossing off the casual "fuck." On Bluefinger, he sounds like he's having...well, fun.

As I said, I like everything FB does, but this has been the first record of his that I love since Dog in the Sand. Comparisons to the first Catholics record are right on target. Teenager? No, I don't hear it, unless you mean a few odd time signatures and higher-register singing. But this seems more like 1996-1999 era Frank Black to me. Actually, it seems a little different. Maybe a new chapter opening? I hope so. This is a welcome and refreshing suprirse, a strange bolt of electricity when I was least expecting it. A little Iggy Pop, a little Lou Reed, a little Jonathan Richman, a little Pete Shelley, a little Mark E. Smith, a little Herman Brood, a little Frank Black, a little Black Francis. A strange, emotive record that sounds like someone hitting his stride, about to tap into some new and promising powers.

I've been hoping he'd make a record like this.

Show 'em how it's done, Frank.

Reply author: kfs
Replied on: 03/27/2007 22:14:00
Message:

Sign me up for 5 copies! Two for me (one for listening and one to keep sealed) and three for gifts.

Reply author: Jefrey
Replied on: 03/28/2007 00:49:18
Message:

You get straight flush. You feel the rush.

It's been a long time since I've listened to a complete album over and over. It's one of those albums where you like a different song better every time you listen. To me it feels like it could have come between Trompe Le Monde and the First FB solo album.

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jeffamerica
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-He played piano really fuckin' good.

Reply author: Cheeseman1000
Replied on: 03/28/2007 01:23:54
Message:

Cheers for the Brood pointers chaps. I thought I'd seen almost everything from Frank Black and then he goes and pulls out a concept album. Sweet.

Reply author: vilainde
Replied on: 03/28/2007 01:38:48
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quote:

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Originally posted by IceManCometh
A little Iggy Pop, a little Lou Reed, a little Jonathan Richman, a little Pete Shelley, a little Mark E. Smith, a little Herman Brood, a little Frank Black, a little Black Francis.

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Reply author: Ziggy
Replied on: 03/28/2007 03:20:47
Message:

Ah yes, guys, awesome work. I was liking the album before, but this gives it a little coherence and context.

Reply author: frankoholic
Replied on: 03/28/2007 04:06:08
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I just heard captain pasty. ROCK N ROLL! actually it reminded me a lot of the song 'I want rock n roll', but what the heck. I love it.

Reply author: Kirk
Replied on: 03/28/2007 06:11:07
Message:

look at the tab for Captain Pasty.
The chords strategically placed, they're everywhere, skipping a beat here and there.
http://bluefinger-tribute.blogspot.com/2007/03/captain-pasty-tab.html

Reply author: 999
Replied on: 03/28/2007 06:37:07
Message:

Thanks to those who shared this with me. This album is incredible. I love how FB has gone back to his rockin' roots. Love the album Frank keep on rockin' and rollin' !!

Reply author: Broken Face
Replied on: 03/28/2007 08:00:53
Message:

Not a big fan of the bass playing myself. He needs to move off the low-E a bit more.

-Brian - http://bvsrant.blogspot.com

Reply author: 2Strings
Replied on: 03/28/2007 08:21:03
Message:

This album is growing on me after a few more listens, especially after having read up a bit on Herman Brood since my first post. The record definately feels more coherant when you listen to it with some understanding of the subject. For some reason i really did not expect Frank to catch a theme and run with it for a whole record.

Still a few songs that i am not feeling, including Test Pilot Blues and Bluefinger, but the rest of the record is definately picking up for me.

Reply author: Grotesque
Replied on: 03/28/2007 08:24:43
Message:

I noticed a lot of people who just had it these ultimate days think "it's OK".
And those who had it before usualy say "it's a masterpiece".
This album is not like "Fort Wayne" or "Gyaneshwar" that had sweety-poppy arrangements that make you love them at once.
But once you're inside, once you can begin to anticpate the complex chords progression and strange melodies, it's even much better than the sweets pop songs of Christmass and Duchy. Anybody heard of the TOTY effect ?

Reply author: vilainde
Replied on: 03/28/2007 08:24:49
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Originally posted by 2Strings
Still a few songs that i am not feeling, including Test Pilot Blues

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Reply author: 2Strings
Replied on: 03/28/2007 08:39:11
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quote:

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Originally posted by vilainde

quote:

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Originally posted by 2Strings
Still a few songs that i am not feeling, including Test Pilot Blues

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Then you haven't turned your stereo loud enough.


Denis

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"Can you hear me? I aint got shit to say."

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Reply author: coastline
Replied on: 03/28/2007 08:45:00
Message:

I like the parts of that song where FB is talking and laughing. I can't tell whether that's him goofing around while they were recording it (which would be normal for him, based on songs like "Bullet") or whether it's supposed to be part of the narrative.

Reply author: Czar
Replied on: 03/28/2007 09:07:19
Message:

Discotheque 36 is a masterpiece. Totally FB.

Reply author: Crispy Water
Replied on: 03/28/2007 09:18:15
Message:

All I've heard is Captain Pasty thanks to that video on the blogspot page. The very beginning (as in before the vocal starts) sounds like a NoMeansNo song. Good tune, and while I like the bass so high in the mix I also hope the tone varies a bit more through the rest of the album. Based on some of the comments here I'm guessing it is...guess I'll find out soon enough.

Nothing is ever something.

Reply author: billgoodman
Replied on: 03/28/2007 09:26:58
Message:

Let's all chip in and buy bluefingers for all our friends
let's make this the first FB that goes platinum
it deserves it

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BF: Mag ik Engels spreken?

Reply author: bumblebeeboy2
Replied on: 03/28/2007 10:00:04
Message:

I was stood at the bus stop this morning, feeling a bit nervous as I'd locked a few people out of the office by taking the keys home last night by accident and I was running late, due to putting this on my MP3 player last minute before setting off. However after those first 2 tracks, I had a massive stupid grin on my face and didn't care what people said by the time I got into work! Amazing stuff.

Reply author: Jason
Replied on: 03/28/2007 10:01:10
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I'm usually VERY patient about things like this, but I was TOO curious aobut this so I, uh, downloaded a few tracks (not the whole thing, though).

Sounds GREAT! I wouldn't say it sounds like "a Pixies record". But that's only because there's no Joey Santiago. Without him, anything is at least a mile away from the Pixies, in my opinion (Maybe that's why there's no lead guitar player here. Frank might not want to sound like he's trying to replace the Pixies with this new band). These ARE totally cool punk rock songs, though! "Threshold Apprehension" sounds straight out of 1977 to me.

Looking forward to hearing the whole thing... which I will now wait for.

Reply author: coastline
Replied on: 03/28/2007 10:04:17
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Originally posted by Jason

Looking forward to hearing the whole thing... which I will now wait for.

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Reply author: Grotesque
Replied on: 03/28/2007 10:04:25
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quote:

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Originally posted by billgoodman

Let's all chip in and buy bluefingers for all our friends
let's make this the first FB that goes platinum
it deserves it

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BF: Mag ik Engels spreken?

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Reply author: billgoodman
Replied on: 03/28/2007 10:35:09
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but we can get it on the top of the indie-charts
this is the record that deserves our best effort
make a Black Francis street team

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BF: Mag ik Engels spreken?

Reply author: 2Strings
Replied on: 03/28/2007 10:37:17
Message:

Not sure if anyone else has seen this already http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaS0VzvfxGY (~0:50 'amazing! it works!') i guess this is where Frank got the line in Tight Black Rubber.

Reply author: The Marsist
Replied on: 03/28/2007 11:11:34
Message:

just listened to captain pasty on the fan site. holy shit rocking frank is back and im glad to see him . this is a really excellent song, quite reminicent of I Want Rock and Roll, and the whole pistolero era. fine stuff indeed.

im fairly unsure has to whats atually goin on with bluefinger. is there an estimated date? will it be on cd? and where did you guys get the album this soon?

Reply author: coastline
Replied on: 03/28/2007 11:18:26
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quote:

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Originally posted by 2Strings

Not sure if anyone else has seen this already http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaS0VzvfxGY (~0:50 'amazing! it works!') i guess this is where Frank got the line in Tight Black Rubber.

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Reply author: The Marsist
Replied on: 03/28/2007 11:54:20
Message:

iv found it and its on its way. i dnt see anything wrong with this as i will buy the hard copy as soon as its released. im just an extremely curious Uberfan.

Reply author: chickenwithtwoheads
Replied on: 03/28/2007 12:02:07
Message:

FB Lowlands festival, The Netherlands, 2001: Mag ik Engels spreken? (RealPlayer) (~16:18)

Reply author: The Marsist
Replied on: 03/28/2007 12:05:27
Message:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXfkeZWGH-4

theres a homemade video for your mouth into mine.

Reply author: prozacrat
Replied on: 03/28/2007 12:26:49
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quote:

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Originally posted by The Marsist

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXfkeZWGH-4

theres a homemade video for your mouth into mine.

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Art is the child of Nature; yes, her darling child, in whom we trace the features of the mother's face, her aspect and her attitude.
-Beck

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Reply author: s_wrenn
Replied on: 03/28/2007 12:28:37
Message:

I can see captain pasty being a popular radio song

Reply author: The Marsist
Replied on: 03/28/2007 12:33:59
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quote:

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Originally posted by prozacrat

quote:

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Originally posted by The Marsist

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXfkeZWGH-4

theres a homemade video for your mouth into mine.

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Art is the child of Nature; yes, her darling child, in whom we trace the features of the mother's face, her aspect and her attitude.
-Beck

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Um.... What's going on down there?

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Reply author: prozacrat
Replied on: 03/28/2007 12:35:26
Message:

I guess so. Well... um... good for her?

http://www.prozacrat.com
www.myspace.com/prozacrat

Reply author: s_wrenn
Replied on: 03/28/2007 12:45:55
Message:

It's like that scene from Private Parts with the subwoofer

Reply author: anazgnos
Replied on: 03/28/2007 13:02:28
Message:

quote:

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Originally posted by IceManCometh
I always like FB's material. Always. But this is the first record since Dog in the Sand that's given me those goosebumps I've missed (yeah, it sounds corny, but hey, it's the truth). I like FB when he's going against the grain, embracing friction, throwing in that odd chord, singing a little out of key, tossing off the casual "fuck." On Bluefinger, he sounds like he's having...well, fun.

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Reply author: coastline
Replied on: 03/28/2007 13:06:47
Message:

Ok, so which one of us wrote the wiki entry for "Bluefinger"? Here it is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluefinger

(It wasn't me. And it needs some work.)

Reply author: prozacrat
Replied on: 03/28/2007 13:08:27
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quote:

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Originally posted by s_wrenn

It's like that scene from Private Parts with the subwoofer

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/ @ * ~ ¦ ¬ . , |

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Reply author: Llamadance
Replied on: 03/28/2007 13:09:28
Message:

well, it looks like it was anazgnos (who did the wiki)

Reply author: matto
Replied on: 03/28/2007 13:15:30
Message:

just heard it last night. wowsies wowsies wowsies
best fb/bf record evah evah evah
I feel like a kid again (not to steal a line from michael jackson)

sminki pinki

Reply author: coastline
Replied on: 03/28/2007 13:19:40
Message:

The wiki needs a few style changes, but those are minor and I'll do them this afternoon. The biggest issue, though, is that it's called a Frank Black album. The Man himself said it's a Black Francis album. (And for all we know, "Black Francis" is the name of the band, but that's just wild speculation on my part.)

Reply author: benji
Replied on: 03/28/2007 13:39:41
Message:

i wonder what the man himself thinks of all the detective work thats been done regarding this record...
sure, he wouldn't have expected it to stay a mystery, but it ain't taken long...

but seeing as he's in aus, it's unlikely he'll get a chance to check in...

Reply author: 999
Replied on: 03/28/2007 14:23:53
Message:

Does anybody know if its Frank that plays the monica in the song Lolita?

Reply author: Llamadance
Replied on: 03/28/2007 14:27:14
Message:

I don't know for definite, but he did credit himself as playing harmonica in a previous post.

Reply author: Crispy Water
Replied on: 03/28/2007 14:27:40
Message:

He's the only one with harmonica credits in the initial announcements, so I'd guess it's him.

Nothing is ever something.

Reply author: jediroller
Replied on: 03/28/2007 14:29:45
Message:

quote:

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Originally posted by frnck blck

blackfrancisBLUEFINGER

1. captain pasty
2. threshold apprehension
3. test pilot blues
4. lolita
5. tight black rubber
6. angels come to comfort you
7. your mouth into mine
8. discotheque 36
9. you can't break a heart and have it
10. she took all the money
11. bluefinger

blackVOCALGUITARHARMONICA
jasonDRUMS
danBASS
violetVOCAL

produced by mark

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Reply author: Mac E. Doobage
Replied on: 03/28/2007 18:37:37
Message:

who are JASON & DAN?

Reply author: crippe
Replied on: 03/28/2007 18:41:50
Message:

Holy shit! I've been waiting 4 years for something like this from FB. I didn't buy Honeycomb or Fastman Raiderman but this I will go out and buy.

Reply author: rodney
Replied on: 03/28/2007 18:43:39
Message:

quote:

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Originally posted by Mac E. Doobage

who are JASON & DAN?

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Reply author: Lokikun
Replied on: 03/28/2007 22:10:55
Message:

I wanted to wait. I really did. Honest Abe! I got too excited though, and just had to hunt it down. I know I'll be the first in line in my part of the world once it gets released anyway, so I figure why deny myself?

First off, I've got to give kudos to The Man. What a smooth transition back to rock! And an absolute beaut of an album...It's definately in my top 3 FB albums. I must admit that when FB (or should I say BF?) was making his cryptic posts and eventually posted the tracklisting, I thought that it was just a big hoax and that he was just having some fun with us. But, honestly, the song titles fit a lot better after actually listening to the songs. (Especially now that the Brood theory has surfaced. I love the fact that FB has put out a concept album, but better yet is that it works so so well!)

Some of the songs on Bluefinger remind me of other Frank songs. Test Pilot Blues reminds me of Nadine. Angels Come To Comfort You's intro sort of reminds me of Horrible Day. Anyone else find themselves going 'Jeez...That sounds familiar!' with any of the songs? I'm definately not bringing this up as a knock against the album or anything. Actually, I rather like it when it happens. It's almost bridging the old with the new.

The first three songs are rediculously catchy...I find myself humming/singing them all the time now...I agree with another poster in that it sounds like Frank is having a blast on this record.

Now I'm off to listen to it some more. Love love love!

-Wes

Reply author: 2Strings
Replied on: 03/28/2007 23:29:27
Message:

Do you guys think this album signals the return of hard-rockin' Frank for some time to come, or is it part of the concept for this particular album? I have not heard Fort Wayne so i have no idea what kind of direction he's going with that, but i would quite like to see some more rockin' material surface.

Reply author: Llamadance
Replied on: 03/28/2007 23:50:05
Message:

I think he's doing what he wants to do. Grand Duchy will probably be a bit lighter and who knows what the edf project will sound like/if it will surface. He talked before about being prolific, and I kind of get the feeling he's going to have multiple music personalities in the near future. I'd imagine one of those will be rockin' Frank.

Reply author: billgoodman
Replied on: 03/29/2007 00:59:06
Message:

quote:

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Originally posted by coastline

quote:

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Originally posted by 2Strings

Not sure if anyone else has seen this already http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaS0VzvfxGY (~0:50 'amazing! it works!') i guess this is where Frank got the line in Tight Black Rubber.

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Another great find. Nice job, 2Strings. It seems very plausible that's exactly where FB got the line. I've been wondering if FB spent a whole bunch of time just researching Brood on the Internet as he wrote this album, using Google, Wikipedia (the Dutch one has much more Brood info, but I can't read it), YouTube, whatever. Maybe FB even stayed at the Hilton Hotel in Amsterdam when he did his research -- using their WiFi connection on his Powerbook. That's why this is the first great album of the 21st century. So modern, in every way.

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Please pardon me, for these my wrongs.

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Reply author: prozacrat
Replied on: 03/29/2007 01:01:42
Message:

The INTERNET!

http://www.prozacrat.com
www.myspace.com/prozacrat

Reply author: billgoodman
Replied on: 03/29/2007 01:06:57
Message:

I don't go with that, of course he may have checked somethings online
but you can find lot's of expositions, a musuem an tons of books on Brood here.
the statue of Herman Brood is placed at the venue were FB played
lot's of shows with the Catholics. Zwolle isn't punkrock-city number one,
nobody plays there, believe me. To me the only way that it makes sense that he played
there was that he had a friend in the area. Maybe the club's promoter or something like that. So my guess is that he knows the place well. That's great, for a musician it's common to know Amsterdam or Utrecht, but Zwolle...no way. Frank is special

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BF: Mag ik Engels spreken?

Reply author: Ziggy
Replied on: 03/29/2007 03:10:44
Message:

Coastline, I mentioned on the discussion board that calling it a 'Black Francis' album might be a little misleading. The entry beforehand suggested that Frank was changing his identity completely, and "going back to his roots". Sure, he called himself 'BF' on this forum, but all the summer tour dates are still under the name of Frank Black etc.

Reply author: onehappyprick
Replied on: 03/29/2007 03:39:23
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Wowwowowowow.

Ok, I'll start by saying that this is the first FB release I've ever downloaded, everything else, I've been loyal and bought. But this I just couldn't wait for after hearing the name "Black Francis". And I will be buying this as soon as it's out.
I'll start with the music: It's amazing. I love the lack of solos, the bass, everything. It reminds me a lot of TOTY, and there are definitely elements of the Pixies in there, but just the scream and it's a lot more obvious that it's the same songwriter than recent albums. It does sound like a metal pick on the bass (like Surfer Rosa).
Also, there are a couple of synths on various tracks, which aren't credited. Any chance it could be EDF? I know this isn't the EDF project thing, but just interested.
Ok, on to the concept. This made me love it so much more. Just when I thought I knew what he was all about. That man never fails to shock me (in a wonderful way), since I first heard the Pixies when I was 12.

My first thought was that at least a couple of these songs started as the songs he wrote for the Pixies, especially Threshold Apprehension. Maybe he decided to write one song about Brood, the Pixies album never happened (who knows) and got hooked on Brood, and got the idea for this project. If he was, at first, trying to write like Black Francis, then why not release it under that name.

But my absolute favourite thing about this, is the way it sounds like a complete combination of everything he's done. In a single song I can hear Surfer Rosa style guitars, elements of TLM and TOTY, early Catholics and definate hints to the Nashville stuff. And it's wonderful.

As for the dates as Frank Black, maybe those will still be Nashville shows.
I'm off to read up on Brood. I'm intregued.

"Goodnight Kim", "Goodnight Charles", "Goodnight Kim", "Goodnight Charles", "Goodnight Joe".... "Goodnight Charles"

Reply author: onehappyprick
Replied on: 03/29/2007 03:40:08
Message:

Also, the line about the "name that rhymes with dead".

Sounds like a blatant Pixies reference to me.

"Goodnight Kim", "Goodnight Charles", "Goodnight Kim", "Goodnight Charles", "Goodnight Joe".... "Goodnight Charles"

Reply author: frankoholic
Replied on: 03/29/2007 03:49:34
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quote:

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Originally posted by 2Strings

Not sure if anyone else has seen this already http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaS0VzvfxGY (~0:50 'amazing! it works!') i guess this is where Frank got the line in Tight Black Rubber.

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Reply author: PixieSteve
Replied on: 03/29/2007 03:55:37
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quote:

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Originally posted by onehappyprick

Also, the line about the "name that rhymes with dead".

Sounds like a blatant Pixies reference to me.

"Goodnight Kim", "Goodnight Charles", "Goodnight Kim", "Goodnight Charles", "Goodnight Joe".... "Goodnight Charles"

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Reply author: onehappyprick
Replied on: 03/29/2007 06:18:13
Message:

Haha, ok.

That would make more sense.

"Goodnight Kim", "Goodnight Charles", "Goodnight Kim", "Goodnight Charles", "Goodnight Joe".... "Goodnight Charles"

Reply author: Mac E. Doobage
Replied on: 03/29/2007 07:19:46
Message:

Where can i get a full track version of this album immediately?

Reply author: anazgnos
Replied on: 03/29/2007 07:33:22
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Originally posted by coastline

Ok, so which one of us wrote the wiki entry for "Bluefinger"? Here it is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluefinger

(It wasn't me. And it needs some work.)

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Reply author: anazgnos
Replied on: 03/29/2007 07:41:22
Message:

Are there any consolidated translations of the dutch posts from FB around? I've only caught bits and pieces so far, and should probably get up to speed.

Reply author: coastline
Replied on: 03/29/2007 07:45:51
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I put some comments on the discussion page this morning, arguing my point, but I don't have such strong conviction as to change it myself. I figured that if I could convince you to change it, then it probably needed changing, and if you resisted, then I would leave it at that for now.

I don't know the first thing about creating wiki entries, but would it be appropriate to create entries for every song? For now, the folks who run fb.net surely won't be putting anything in the Discopedia (until the album is released), but once we nail down the lyrics to any of the songs via this thread, it would make sense to me to make them permanent somewhere -- such as a wiki. But you seem better-versed in the Wikipedia, anazgnos. What do you think?

Reply author: coastline
Replied on: 03/29/2007 07:46:50
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quote:

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Originally posted by anazgnos

Are there any consolidated translations of the dutch posts from FB around? I've only caught bits and pieces so far, and should probably get up to speed.

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Reply author: 999
Replied on: 03/29/2007 07:59:41
Message:

Big Bang Sky
Big Bang Dirt

Reply author: anazgnos
Replied on: 03/29/2007 07:59:53
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quote:

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Originally posted by coastline

I put some comments on the discussion page this morning, arguing my point, but I don't have such strong conviction as to change it myself. I figured that if I could convince you to change it, then it probably needed changing, and if you resisted, then I would leave it at that for now.

I don't know the first thing about creating wiki entries, but would it be appropriate to create entries for every song? For now, the folks who run fb.net surely won't be putting anything in the Discopedia (until the album is released), but once we nail down the lyrics to any of the songs via this thread, it would make sense to me to make them permanent somewhere -- such as a wiki. But you seem better-versed in the Wikipedia, anazgnos. What do you think?

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Please pardon me, for these my wrongs.

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Reply author: coastline
Replied on: 03/29/2007 08:12:04
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quote:

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Originally posted by 999

Big Bang Sky
Big Bang Dirt

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Reply author: Grotesque
Replied on: 03/29/2007 08:21:24
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quote:

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Originally posted by coastline

quote:

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Originally posted by 999

Big Bang Sky
Big Bang Dirt

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Here's another line that seems to be about Brood's suicide. But I've been wondering about his suicide, as I haven't managed to really learn the details of it. Did he shoot himself as he jumped off the hotel roof, or did he just jump? Does anyone know?

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Reply author: vilainde
Replied on: 03/29/2007 08:33:39
Message:

What Grotesque said. Apparently the police concluded the death was accidental.


Denis

Reply author: Llamadance
Replied on: 03/29/2007 08:38:01
Message:

did he jump from the roof, or room 902?

Reply author: billgoodman
Replied on: 03/29/2007 08:46:53
Message:

Since Brood's dead was widely documented in the dutch newspapers/television news:

Brood's body was tired of all the drugs and alcohol (ab)use. Doctor's said that he maybe
at 4 or 5 months to live, Brood stopped using but his body was so damaged that he decided that
life wasn't good enough for him anymore. I don't want to burn up, let's safe that for the cremation (I quote his farewell-letter, which also said: 'maybe I will see you sometime' and 'have a party'). I believe Test Pilot Blues says something in the line of 'I don't want to fade away'. That's typically Brood, he didn't want to slowly wither away, he wanted to go on the moment that life wasn't that great anymore. He used to go on the roof of the Hilton many times, he could see his house from there. One day he wrote his suicide-letter at the bar in the Hotel, got a cocktail and paid with hundred dollar, he didn't want to have any change-money because he would be 'right back'. Then he got to the roof again and jumped. He was dead immediately, but his face or body weren't ugly damaged (that's what his wife said in the press). The reason that people weren't sure that it was Brood was that he had shaved his head. Brood had nice dark hair, it was his trademark.
There was a big ceremony with thousands of people attending. Then he was cremated and his ashes were burried in Zwolle.



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BF: Mag ik Engels spreken?

Reply author: billgoodman
Replied on: 03/29/2007 08:51:11
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quote:

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Originally posted by Llamadance

did he jump from the roof, or room 902?

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Scratching the surface without a purpose won't accomplish anything new

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Upload your Frank photos here - fb.net gallery

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Reply author: coastline
Replied on: 03/29/2007 08:55:24
Message:

Here are FB's double-translated lyrics for the song "Bluefinger":

"I am in top Bluefinger on the hill over the dark water to still run there but my blood of eerder Schweinetrab is Isala, and I' D came me at the surface, and I have myself each decrease drunk went through the pressure balance chamber door and received on the course Pepperbox the clock, which blows my brain, but I have it with the Spanish cocaine returned go noiseless, and I examined and made the cows the solemn oaths, if my choice is bad it made, her made me, and which corresponds with my door? I do not have it did not pay, her did not pay me to need to me disturb it sign here me the manager a friend mine am, thus go the baby, only more time am a lever jump at this thing on my back me, and everyone my choice were to clean me made, they made I, and who corresponds with my door? I paid it, paid her me."

Reply author: Llamadance
Replied on: 03/29/2007 09:07:43
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quote:

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Originally posted by billgoodman

quote:

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Originally posted by Llamadance

did he jump from the roof, or room 902?

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john and yoko spend a week in room 902 during their honeymoon-bed inn for peace.

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Reply author: darwin
Replied on: 03/29/2007 10:24:14
Message:

In Test Pilot Blues where is he says "I love this part, We did it". Do you think he's referring to the music or to whatever the test pilot is doing in the song?

Reply author: coastline
Replied on: 03/29/2007 10:31:28
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quote:

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Originally posted by darwin

In Test Pilot Blues where is he says "I love this part, We did it". Do you think he's referring to the music or to whatever the test pilot is doing in the song?

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Reply author: darwin
Replied on: 03/29/2007 10:49:27
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quote:

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Originally posted by frankoholic

quote:

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Originally posted by 2Strings

Not sure if anyone else has seen this already http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaS0VzvfxGY (~0:50 'amazing! it works!') i guess this is where Frank got the line in Tight Black Rubber.

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bluefinger:
And I got on the train
The pepper box been blowing my brains
But I made it go quicker with Spanish cocaine
And I looked at the cows

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Reply author: coastline
Replied on: 03/29/2007 11:01:42
Message:

And I think he says, "The pepperbox bell been blowing my brain." Hence the word "clock" in the jacked-up translation above.



Here's the wiki on "pepper-box": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pepper-box

You know, somebody ought to run the lyrics to this song through Babelfish -- to Dutch and back to English -- and see how well it matches what we read a couple months ago.

Reply author: prozacrat
Replied on: 03/29/2007 11:19:04
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quote:

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Originally posted by billgoodman

I don't go with that, of course he may have checked somethings online
but you can find lot's of expositions, a musuem an tons of books on Brood here.
the statue of Herman Brood is placed at the venue were FB played
lot's of shows with the Catholics. Zwolle isn't punkrock-city number one,
nobody plays there, believe me. To me the only way that it makes sense that he played
there was that he had a friend in the area. Maybe the club's promoter or something like that. So my guess is that he knows the place well. That's great, for a musician it's common to know Amsterdam or Utrecht, but Zwolle...no way. Frank is special

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BF: Mag ik Engels spreken?

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Reply author: Kirk
Replied on: 03/29/2007 12:20:18
Message:

I'm more impressed with FB's historical research than Sufjan Stevens.

Reply author: prozacrat
Replied on: 03/29/2007 12:33:15
Message:

I don't know if I would go that far yet. Of course, it's the quality of the album that matters the most, but we still don't know exactly how much Frank put into writing this. From what I've read of Sufjan's research, it was very lengthy, and very, very thorough. Though both these guys have made concept albums, their products have been very different. Frank has painted a very elaborate picture of the life of one man. Sufjan has been soaking up the history of entire states (and whatever else he's written concept albums for) and distilled from it what he thinks will make a good album. It's really hard to compare these two. I may be totally overthinking this, Kirk. I apologize.

http://www.prozacrat.com
www.myspace.com/prozacrat

Reply author: billgoodman
Replied on: 03/29/2007 13:41:32
Message:

BTW

Violet's back ups are just like Herman Brood's back up singers. Captain Pasty is also very Brood-esque. And then there's indeed the cover You Can't Break A Heart and Have It.

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BF: Mag ik Engels spreken?

Reply author: coastline
Replied on: 03/29/2007 13:52:47
Message:

Our man on the scene nails down some more Brood-ishness. Nice work again, Jop.

Reply author: 2Strings
Replied on: 03/29/2007 15:17:07
Message:

Found a video that could be Herman with his daughter (or maybe just a young girlfriend i guess), can't translate myself but it would be interesting to know what he's talking about if any Dutch speakers have the time to summarise. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97ttMmAVGAs

Also there are a number of Nina Hagen videos on Youtube, one of which is clearly about Herman http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IO5qWlGhfmQ&mode=related&search=. Another one with Hagen and Brood form a film http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8lloCMMTZQ. I didn't realise she was also a performer.

Reply author: Grotesque
Replied on: 03/29/2007 17:11:01
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quote:

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Originally posted by billgoodman

BTW

Violet's back ups are just like Herman Brood's back up singers. Captain Pasty is also very Brood-esque. And then there's indeed the cover You Can't Break A Heart and Have It.

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BF: Mag ik Engels spreken?

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Reply author: Grotesque
Replied on: 03/29/2007 17:32:59
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quote:

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Originally posted by houstonguthrie

just heard it for the first time and as a long time Frank fan who loves everything he's done - I am just FLOORED!!! this album rocks!!! it's going to floor Frank fans, Pixies fans, and a whole bunch of new people

just looked at my Martin acoustic across the room - and didn't even want to pick it up

I'm puttin down the Martin - and I'm buying a Tele baby!!!!!

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Reply author: Czar
Replied on: 03/29/2007 18:56:34
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quote:

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Originally posted by Lokikun
Some of the songs on Bluefinger remind me of other Frank songs. Test Pilot Blues reminds me of Nadine. Angels Come To Comfort You's intro sort of reminds me of Horrible Day. Anyone else find themselves going 'Jeez...That sounds familiar!' with any of the songs? I'm definately not bringing this up as a knock against the album or anything. Actually, I rather like it when it happens. It's almost bridging the old with the new.

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Reply author: 2Strings
Replied on: 03/29/2007 19:31:25
Message:

The end section of 'Angels Come To Comfort You' feels a lot like 'Vanishing Spies' from TOTY to me. I agree, these references are cool, the album has a weird out of time feel to it. Seems like although it is an album with a very clear concept, musically it feels like a nod to everything in Franks universe.

Reply author: coastline
Replied on: 03/29/2007 19:39:40
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quote:

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Originally posted by Czar
I'm I the only one to link Rubber with the Breeders and Can't Break a Heart... with Sonic Youth?

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Reply author: Jefrey
Replied on: 03/29/2007 21:50:28
Message:

quote:

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Originally posted by Grotesque

quote:

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Originally posted by houstonguthrie

just heard it for the first time and as a long time Frank fan who loves everything he's done - I am just FLOORED!!! this album rocks!!! it's going to floor Frank fans, Pixies fans, and a whole bunch of new people

just looked at my Martin acoustic across the room - and didn't even want to pick it up

I'm puttin down the Martin - and I'm buying a Tele baby!!!!!

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Caution ! I bought once a tele after seeing Frank Black live, but that was not at all his sound, because this little pervert has a tele with HUMBUCKERS (double microphones)!
The normal single mic tele sound is really light and gentle, almost accoustic sounding. You wont be ablle to make that twing twang sound like FB with that. It just makes a gentle "FRIIING".
Bluefinger has such a great rythm guitar sound, I think there will be a huge demand for a "FB signature" telecaster in a year from now.

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Reply author: Steak n Sabre
Replied on: 03/29/2007 22:03:00
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quote:

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Originally posted by Kirk

look at the tab for Captain Pasty.
The chords strategically placed, they're everywhere, skipping a beat here and there.
http://bluefinger-tribute.blogspot.com/2007/03/captain-pasty-tab.html

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Reply author: theonecontender
Replied on: 03/30/2007 00:08:57
Message:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ly0W8kwkm_M&mode=related&search=

Reply author: PixieSteve
Replied on: 03/30/2007 00:42:23
Message:

think it does start on E, just slides straight to F#

Reply author: frankoholic
Replied on: 03/30/2007 02:45:16
Message:

Does anybody know if there were more songs recorded for bluefinger that not made the final deal?

Reply author: Hatchetman
Replied on: 03/30/2007 03:38:52
Message:

Anyone figure out the lyrics to Threshold Apprehension? Here's what I have so far:


Threshold Apprehension

Talk to a man just to get a little work
Then you talk to the hand just to get a little jerk
Some people die then they start to get old
But I don’t wanna die upon on the threshold
I got threshold apprehension

Threshold apprehension
I got threshold apprehension

Every little shift gotta find me some lick
If I don’t find my babe I’m gonna be jump sick
Roll away the rocks so I can get to my ascension
Ain’t my first time *on the threshold apprehension*
I got threshold apprehension…What?

Threshold apprehension
I got threshold apprehension

Who’s carrying who?
Who’s turning the screw?
Who has caused *** ***
****** *** *** ***
I will be the whore
And you’ll be my suicide

We got on my bike and we rolled to the sea
I stood on the dock and you got on your knees
Grand monet and a pocket full of speed
We did it all day so we started to bleed

Are you feeling appre…hension?

*I can leap higher than an old king toad*
I do 185 on the new ring road
*I love a blue girl and I like my grog*
It’s a black and white *** *** scope of your dog

I’ll drink ***
***Elevator door
Come a time when you wanna lose attention
It’s the last time on the threshold apprehension
I got threshold apprehension
Say what?

Threshold
I got threshold apprehension
Threshold

Who’s carrying who?
Who’s turning the screw?
Who has ****
*** *** *** *** ***
I will be the whore
Be my suicide

Who’s carrying who?
Who’s turning the screw?
Who has ****
*** *** *** *** ***
I will be the whore
Be my suicide


Ade

Reply author: 2Strings
Replied on: 03/30/2007 03:52:44
Message:

quote:

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Originally posted by Hatchetman

Anyone figure out the lyrics to Threshold Apprehension? Here's what I have so far:

Have drink press button 7th floor
And i wait a hundred years for the Elevator door
Come a time when you wanna lose attention
It’s the last time on the threshold apprehension
I got threshold apprehension
Say what?

Threshold
I got threshold apprehension
Threshold

Who’s carrying who?
Who’s turning the screw?
Who has prophesized?
*** *** *** *** ***
I will be the whore
Be my suicide

Ade

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As the air conditioner hummed....

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Reply author: PixieSteve
Replied on: 03/30/2007 03:55:57
Message:

suggested corrections, mostly the work of llamadance:

Who’s carrying who?
Who’s turning the screw?
Who has prophisied
Pretty paramour
I will be the whore
And you’ll be my suicide

We got on my bike and we rode to the sea
I stood on the dock and you got on your knees
Grand marnier and a pocket full of speed
We did it all day so we started to bleed

Have a drink, piss by the seventh floor
Wait a hundred years for the elevator door
Come a time when you wanna lose attention
It’s the last time on the threshold apprehension

Reply author: the_great_stupido
Replied on: 03/30/2007 04:14:02
Message:

A couple of amendments...

quote:

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Originally posted by Hatchetman


Threshold Apprehension

Talk to a man just to get a little work
Then you talk to the hand just to get a little jerk
Some people die then they start to get old
But I don’t wanna die upon on the threshold
I got threshold apprehension

Threshold apprehension
I got threshold apprehension

Every little shift gotta find me salt lick(?)
If I don’t find my babe I’m gonna be jump sick
Roll away the rock so I can get to my ascension
Ain’t my first time *on the threshold apprehension*
I got threshold apprehension…What?

Threshold apprehension
I got threshold apprehension

Who’s carrying who?
Who’s turning the screw?
Who has prophesied
Petit Paramour
I will be the whore
And you’ll be my suicide

We got on my bike and we rode to the sea
I stood on the dock and you got on your knees
Grand Marnier and a pocket full of speed
We did it all day so we started to bleed

Are you feeling appre…hensive?

I can leap higher than an old king toad
I do 185 on the new ring road
I love a blue girl and I like my grog
It’s a black and white world, cos I'm a scorpio dog

Have a drink, piss by the seventh floor
And wait a hundred years for the elevator door
Come a time when you wanna lose attention
It’s the last time on the threshold apprehension
I got threshold apprehension
Say what?

Threshold
I got threshold apprehension
Threshold

Who’s carrying who?
Who’s turning the screw?
Who has prophesied
Petit paramour
I will be the whore
Be my suicide

Who’s carrying who?
Who’s turning the screw?
Who has prophesied
Petit paramour
I will be the whore
Be my suicide

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Reply author: billgoodman
Replied on: 03/30/2007 04:22:49
Message:

quote:

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Originally posted by PixieSteve

suggested corrections, mostly the work of llamadance:

Who’s carrying who?
Who’s turning the screw?
Who has prophisied
Pretty paramour
I will be the whore
And you’ll be my suicide

We got on my bike and we rode to the sea
I stood on the dock and you got on your knees
Grand marnier and a pocket full of speed
We did it all day so we started to bleed

Have a drink, piss by the seventh floor
Wait a hundred years for the elevator door
Come a time when you wanna lose attention
It’s the last time on the threshold apprehension

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"After coming into contact with a religious man I always feel I must wash my hands." - Friedrich Nietzsche

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Reply author: billgoodman
Replied on: 03/30/2007 04:25:11
Message:

quote:

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Originally posted by 2Strings

Found a video that could be Herman with his daughter (or maybe just a young girlfriend i guess), can't translate myself but it would be interesting to know what he's talking about if any Dutch speakers have the time to summarise. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97ttMmAVGAs

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Reply author: 999
Replied on: 03/30/2007 07:46:07
Message:

Does anybody know who is putting those bullshit videos for this album on youtube? Why make a fake music video?

Reply author: remig
Replied on: 03/30/2007 08:13:37
Message:

I find it a bit easy to put an old movie with few edits. It looks arty but it's not.
The only funny one is "your mouth into mine". It looks like she's riding in rythm.

At least people can listen to the songs for free without downloading it.

Reply author: darwin
Replied on: 03/30/2007 08:52:33
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quote:

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Originally posted by 999

Does anybody know who is putting those bullshit videos for this album on youtube? Why make a fake music video?

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Reply author: The Marsist
Replied on: 03/30/2007 09:43:17
Message:

Fucking hell what an album.

not 1 bad song on it.

Angels come to comfort is ACE

Reply author: Grotesque
Replied on: 03/30/2007 09:43:42
Message:

quote:

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Originally posted by Czar

quote:

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Originally posted by Lokikun
Some of the songs on Bluefinger remind me of other Frank songs. Test Pilot Blues reminds me of Nadine. Angels Come To Comfort You's intro sort of reminds me of Horrible Day. Anyone else find themselves going 'Jeez...That sounds familiar!' with any of the songs? I'm definately not bringing this up as a knock against the album or anything. Actually, I rather like it when it happens. It's almost bridging the old with the new.

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Yes. I'm glad I'm not the only one to have felt some feeling of déjà entendu -- and it's not negative at all! It's like deliberate on his part, maybe.

I'm I the only one to link Rubber with the Breeders and Can't Break a Heart... with Sonic Youth?

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Reply author: pixiestu
Replied on: 03/30/2007 09:53:13
Message:

Test Pilot Blues sort of reminds me of Nadine.

Reply author: misterwoe
Replied on: 03/30/2007 10:06:49
Message:

Maybe this has already been answered, but where in the hell are you guys finding this album? I can't find it on soul seek. Anybody want to hook up with me on soul seek? I'd live to hear this action.

I'll be by the pool, playing with my guns.

Reply author: starmekitten
Replied on: 03/30/2007 10:45:55
Message:

I thought it was going to be chunk sick.

I hope, I seriously hope, no one is soulseeking this.

Idiot.

Reply author: Kirk
Replied on: 03/30/2007 10:56:45
Message:

I'm sure he's heard of Google.com

Reply author: coastline
Replied on: 03/30/2007 11:14:45
Message:

Damn fine work on this one, folks. Here are a few small changes, in blue:

quote:

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Originally posted by the_great_stupido

A couple of amendments...

quote:

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Originally posted by Hatchetman


Threshold Apprehension

Talk to a man just to get a little work
Then you talk to the hand just to get a little jerk
Some people die, then they start to get old
But I don’t wanna die upon on the threshold
I got threshold apprehension

Threshold apprehension
I got threshold apprehension

Every little shit's gotta find a salt lick
If I don’t find my babe I’m gonna be junk sick
Roll away the rock so I can get to my ascension
Ain’t my first time *on the threshold apprehension*
I got threshold apprehension … What?

Threshold apprehension
I got threshold apprehension

Who’s carrying who?
Who’s turning the screw?
Who has prophesied
Petit paramour
I will be the whore
And you’ll be my suicide

We got on my bike and we rode to the sea
I stood on the dock and you got on your knees
Grand Marnier and a pocket full of speed
We did it all day till we started to bleed

Are you feeling appre…hension?

I can leap higher than an old king toad
I do 185 on the new ring road
I love a blue girl and I like my grog
It’s a black and white world, cos I'm a scorpio dog

Have a drink, piss by the seventh floor
And wait a hundred years for the elevator door
Come a time if you wanna lose attention
It’s the last time on the threshold apprehension
I got threshold apprehension
Say what?

Threshold
I got threshold apprehension
Threshold

Who’s carrying who?
Who’s turning the screw?
Who has prophesied
Petit paramour
I will be the whore
Be my suicide

Who’s carrying who?
Who’s turning the screw?
Who has prophesied
Petit paramour
I will be the whore
Be my suicide

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Reply author: floop
Replied on: 03/30/2007 11:21:23
Message:

surly it's gotta be junk sick no?



jamming good with Weird and Gilly

Reply author: starmekitten
Replied on: 03/30/2007 11:54:26
Message:

Is it so wrong that I really want it to be chunk sick. It has a lovely imagery, no?

Idiot.

Reply author: the_great_stupido
Replied on: 03/30/2007 12:42:48
Message:

quote:

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Originally posted by floop

surly it's gotta be junk sick no?



jamming good with Weird and Gilly

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Reply author: coastline
Replied on: 03/30/2007 12:47:59
Message:

quote:

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Originally posted by starmekitten

Is it so wrong that I really want it to be chunk sick. It has a lovely imagery, no?

Idiot.

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Reply author: coastline
Replied on: 03/30/2007 12:59:17
Message:

Grotesque -- why do you always erase your best posts?

Reply author: Grotesque
Replied on: 03/30/2007 13:08:56
Message:

Cos I post too much. I'm trying to cure myself from being a big mouth.
Gee, I'm very tempted to erase this one too !

My previous post was about soulseek, is it good or bad for Bluefinger to be soulseeked?
I actually can only find good points: It could make the hype around it, as it is a fantastic album, and also more in the way that most people expect from the pixies leader. Maybe some younger ones that dont care about the cd format wont buy it because they caught it on soulseek, but would have they buy it after the release anyway ? And finally, it could hurry the record company to make it to the stores before that depressing autumn release date.
The same day that the best of would be great, so the new fans can already buy a new batch of songs as good (if not better) as anything on the best of!
Bad points: there surely are some but I cant find them! Yes I got one: the fans with no money at all: having already listened to the mp3, they'll save their few pennies left to buy some bread and a box of peas. (just kidding, they will surely buy the record and die from starvation)

Reply author: Jefrey
Replied on: 03/30/2007 14:21:08
Message:

quote:

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Originally posted by Grotesque


My previous post was about soulseek, is it good or bad for Bluefinger to be soulseeked?

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Reply author: PixieSteve
Replied on: 03/30/2007 14:26:51
Message:

god, the concept of a leak is that it leaks.

Reply author: Grotesque
Replied on: 03/30/2007 15:25:48
Message:

quote:

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Originally posted by Jefrey

[quote]Originally posted by Grotesque



I would say bad because I don't believe the original leaker wanted this public or he would have made it so in the first place. The people that have been sharing it have been to doing so with the promise that it wouldn't be widely leaked.


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jeffamerica
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-He played piano really fuckin' good.

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Reply author: TheScooper
Replied on: 03/30/2007 16:04:09
Message:

oye vey, I managed to hold out and wait for the actual releases of honeycomb and FMRM, but I at least had a date to soothe me....if we don't get a release date for this soon, I don't know how much longer I can last...damn you Frank Black, you deity

Reply author: coastline
Replied on: 03/30/2007 16:18:47
Message:

You should hear how hard "Threshold Apprehension" rocks, TheScooper. It's like a return to "Trompe Le Monde." And the way his voice cracks with emotion on "Angels Come to Comfort You" and the title track. Oh, and the brilliant bass throughout nearly every song. And the way the songs all end even stronger than they begin. And Violet's vocals that are made of honey. But maybe you should just wait ...

Reply author: benji
Replied on: 03/30/2007 16:52:35
Message:

someone talked out the synth earlier...
i have to agree it sounds very much like EDF's work...it's just got that feel, and it's weird how it's not credited whereas everything else is....

Reply author: Jefrey
Replied on: 03/30/2007 17:58:29
Message:

quote:

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Originally posted by PixieSteve

god, the concept of a leak is that it leaks.

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"After coming into contact with a religious man I always feel I must wash my hands." - Friedrich Nietzsche

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Reply author: melikehairycamel
Replied on: 03/30/2007 18:00:42
Message:

I'm not adding much here but Threshold Apprehension is awesome.

Reply author: Jefrey
Replied on: 03/30/2007 18:03:52
Message:

Also, thanks very much to coastline for nailing the Herman Brood concept thing.

I told you that I loved the album at first anyway, not knowing a thing about what it was about.

But it's s much richer of an experience now that I've read the history, seen the art, and heard the music of Brood.

I think watching the video of his band doing "You Can't Break A Heart And Have It" was the key for me. Thanks to everyone that has posted the youtube clips of Brood!

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jeffamerica
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-He played piano really fuckin' good.

Reply author: Grotesque
Replied on: 03/31/2007 12:57:58
Message:

I was about to say I agree but the previous post disapeared.
Now I would have to check somewhere else how to spell that godamn "Treesolhd" word (really hard to remember for a french, what does it means by the way)!
Well, anyway that's good to know that someone else is much more impressed by Tight Black Rubber than the first two song.
To me the first two songs just clean up my ears very well, like a Motorhead single.
Then begins the real masterpiece, from Test Pilot Blues to Bluefinger.

And also, that's true that knowing a bit about Brood and watching his own version of heart makes you listen the album much better.
Before that I stupidely thought the lyrics where a pastiche of fake rock'n'roll attitudes, those young rock bands that choose a junky look and expressions like they're having orgasms.

...
Hey what's the matter, all the posts are disapearing!? Is the "I FUCK YOU" flowaway virus leaker thing eating us alive right now?

Reply author: Hatchetman
Replied on: 03/31/2007 13:31:10
Message:

quote:

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Originally posted by floop

surly it's gotta be junk sick no?

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Reply author: floop
Replied on: 03/31/2007 13:51:36
Message:

"junk sick" is a withdrawl term http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=junk+sick

i think the rock in "roll away the rock" is heroin (or crack) .. "roll away the rock so i can get to my ascension"

it seems to make more sense since they were junkies and the whole album is filled with drug references, but i could be wrong



jamming good with Weird and Gilly

Reply author: starmekitten
Replied on: 03/31/2007 13:59:54
Message:

Or chunk sick because there is always, always, carrots.

Idiot.

Reply author: the_great_stupido
Replied on: 03/31/2007 14:41:42
Message:

quote:

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Originally posted by floop

"junk sick" is a withdrawl term http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=junk+sick

i think the rock in "roll away the rock" is heroin (or crack) .. "roll away the rock so i can get to my ascension"

it seems to make more sense since they were junkies and the whole album is filled with drug references, but i could be wrong



jamming good with Weird and Gilly

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Reply author: LUTINS
Replied on: 03/31/2007 16:43:32
Message:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlp6haHfg1Q

FORUM PIXIES EN FRANCAIS ! http://www.netrover.com/~duracell/pixies.html

Reply author: benji
Replied on: 03/31/2007 17:39:04
Message:

now that is quite a cool video....
best of the ones i've seen.

Reply author: coastline
Replied on: 03/31/2007 19:01:15
Message:

It's a biography, set in music. It's brilliant, really. Not the first time it's been done, but it's executed so damn well. I like how he comes at his subject from every angle imaginable.

Reply author: ccuadros
Replied on: 03/31/2007 19:42:18
Message:

mmmm your comments are killing me!! I´ve always wait the official release of FB albums, I bought every LP and I´ll do the same with this but....I want to hear it!!!! where can I get it???!!! please help!!

Reply author: Joey Joe Jo Jr. Chabadoo
Replied on: 04/01/2007 01:28:06
Message:

Great album as expected. A pop punk formula that reminds of the Pixies and Frank Black early period but with a catholic rough and direct approach.

I like it a lot. You cant' break a heart and have it (true statement) is my favorite of the week.

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Reply author: 2Strings
Replied on: 04/01/2007 02:45:32
Message:

quote:

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Originally posted by Joey Joe Jo Jr. Chabadoo

I like it a lot. You cant' break a heart and have it (true statement) is my favorite of the week.

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Reply author: chickenwithtwoheads
Replied on: 04/01/2007 05:51:35
Message:

Lol(it)a:

Reply author: OLDMANOTY
Replied on: 04/01/2007 06:30:58
Message:

Having heard the 3 Bluefinger songs that are on YouTube I've got to say I'm just stunned at FB's diversity. He's becoming a musical chameleon like Bowie once was but much more real and honest.

Reply author: chickenwithtwoheads
Replied on: 04/01/2007 06:38:23
Message:

quote:

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Originally posted by OLDMANOTY

Having heard the 3 Bluefinger songs that are on YouTube I've got to say I'm just stunned at FB's diversity. He's becoming a musical chameleon like Bowie once was but much more real and honest.

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Reply author: OLDMANOTY
Replied on: 04/01/2007 06:39:40
Message:

Ok, thanks. Will go there now!

Reply author: 999
Replied on: 04/01/2007 07:05:27
Message:

Has anyone heard anything about the cover art yet?

Reply author: chickenwithtwoheads
Replied on: 04/01/2007 07:15:17
Message:

quote:

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Originally posted by 999

Has anyone heard anything about the cover art yet?

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Reply author: gyaneshwar
Replied on: 04/01/2007 08:43:06
Message:

I haven't heard anything except for what is on YouTube, and all I have to say is HOLY FUCK. I can't wait for this. This is the best shit I have heard in a long time. I LOVE Threshold Apprehension and Captain Pasty.

Reply author: coastline
Replied on: 04/01/2007 09:01:25
Message:

I think this would be the perfect one for cover art ... I'm using it as my iTunes art for the album ...

Reply author: sixsixtysix
Replied on: 04/01/2007 09:10:28
Message:

It is on soulseek btw, I got it off there except for the first song which wouldn't download

Reply author: Born to Lose
Replied on: 04/01/2007 11:19:36
Message:

Is anyone else shocked by how much of a complete turn around these songs are? You wouldn't think that Fastman Raiderman and Bluefinger were by the same artist! It is quite amazing.

Reply author: 2Strings
Replied on: 04/01/2007 11:22:43
Message:

I think Bluefinger sits pretty happily with the FMRM type stuff, but yes i agree that the rest of the album is a pretty sharp turn (for the good!).

Reply author: Hatchetman
Replied on: 04/01/2007 11:33:46
Message:

It really is the best thing I've heard in a long while. Look forward to its release.

Ade

Reply author: frankblackphx
Replied on: 04/01/2007 11:40:56
Message:

It has officially grown on me. Discotheque 36 still being my favorite. I do wish the guitar was a little louder in the mix though. I am hoping that will happen in the final mix and master.

For some reason Tight Black Rubber is my least like song on the CD. Not sure why. Just hasn't clicked with me just yet. I totally agree with a previus poster that Captain Pasty could be a hit. If this album is marketed correctly I think he can have his biggest selling solo album on his hands with Bluefinger. Let's hope so.

Dan

Here I am for your judgement
When the paint grows darker still

Reply author: chickenwithtwoheads
Replied on: 04/01/2007 11:49:39
Message:

quote:

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Originally posted by frnck blck

And this blue finger report
Still has onvermengd
And which numbering songs
From eleven in the summer 2007
Was solved

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Reply author: Brank_Flack
Replied on: 04/01/2007 15:49:16
Message:

are the youtube videos official like the christmass videos?

Reply author: OLDMANOTY
Replied on: 04/01/2007 16:22:03
Message:

Finally got to hear the whole thing and it's wonderful, he just sounds so rejuvinated. I agree with frankblackphx, if it's marketed correctly it could be big; Frank Black (or Black Francis, whatever) would suddenly be the name on everyones' lips and the critics would predictably do an about turn and state they always thought he was a genius blah blah. Hmmm, maybe it would be better as another low key release after all...I don't know.

Reply author: Grotesque
Replied on: 04/01/2007 18:10:43
Message:

quote:

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Originally posted by chickenwithtwoheads

quote:

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Originally posted by frnck blck

And this blue finger report
Still has onvermengd
And which numbering songs
From eleven in the summer 2007
Was solved

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Onvermengd means something like 'not mixed yet'
But is the leaked version the onvermengd version or the solved one?

and if it's solved, will the album hit the stores this summer?

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Reply author: Kirk
Replied on: 04/01/2007 19:40:07
Message:

quote:

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Originally posted by Brank_Flack

are the youtube videos official like the christmass videos?

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Reply author: moksha23x
Replied on: 04/02/2007 01:51:12
Message:

Kudos....to the man.

Reply author: Luis Bunuel
Replied on: 04/02/2007 09:08:10
Message:

Just got it. Very punk rock!

EDIT, sounds like the album the Pixies would've made to follow up Trompe. Frank's looking and sounding like a young man again! This is truly going to be the summer of Frank!!

Reply author: moksha23x
Replied on: 04/02/2007 12:10:35
Message:

Thanks Coastline for figuring out the Herman Brood Biographical Concept.....Very impressive. I'm really enjoying it from a different perspective and am having fun learning about a new artist.......Herman Brood was certainly ".....Punker than Punk".
I know many of you have gone back and checked out the Babelfished lyrics from "Where in the World is Frank Black". I am claiming no revelation.......but I love reading the mixed up lyrics recalling the confusion of the forum members at the time. 'Frnck Blck' seemed to have erased all of his posts and I didn't think to archive them.....does anyone have them? The only babelfished songs I could find were 'Bluefinger' and 'Tight Black Rubber'.
To quote Villainde (Denis) who was referring to the following 'Frnck Blck' Babelfished song, "Looks like lyrics to me (of a song called, say, "Blue Finger"). I wouldn't look too much into it. Notice the abundance of commas, which is how Frank often writes his lyrics." Good eye Denis. Here's the babelfished song and the actual lyrics:

Babelfished 'Bluefinger'
"I am in top Bluefinger on the hill over the dark water to still run there but my blood of eerder Schweinetrab is Isala, and I' D came me at the surface, and I have myself each decrease drunk went through the pressure balance chamber door and received on the course Pepperbox the clock, which blows my brain, but I have it with the Spanish cocaine returned go noiseless, and I examined and made the cows the solemn oaths, if my choice is bad it made, her made me, and which corresponds with my door? I do not have it did not pay, her did not pay me to need to me disturb it sign here me the manager a friend mine am, thus go the baby, only more time am a lever jump at this thing on my back me, and everyone my choice were to clean me made, they made I, and who corresponds with my door? I paid it, paid her me"

'Bluefinger'
I am a bluefinger From Up on the hill, Above the dark water that’s flowing there still, But my blood is a silo..??, And I’d rather still, I came down from the top, And I drank every drop. I went through the "Sassengate????", And I got on a train , The pepper box bill blowing my brains, But I made it go quicker with Spanish cocaine, And I looked at the cows, And I made solemn vows, If my choices are poor, Well I made them (I made them), I made them (I made them). And who’s knocking on my door?, I paid them, I paid them. If my choices are poor, I made them (I made them), I made them (I made them). And who’s knocking on my door? I paid them, I paid them. I don’t need the do-not-disturb-me sign, The manager here is a friend of mine, So baby let’s go just one more time, I’m a jumping jack to this thing on my back. And all of my choices were pure, Yeah, I made them (I made them),I made them (I made them) And who’s that knocking on my door, Well, I paid them. Yeah, I paid them.

I marked a bunch of words or phrases in blue, they're either corrections (from the lyrics posted above) I made (I made them) or questions I have......
This is such a great ALBUM...I can't stop listening to the whole thing from start to finish!

Reply author: the_great_stupido
Replied on: 04/02/2007 13:12:47
Message:

quote:

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Originally posted by moksha23x



Babelfished 'Bluefinger'
"I am in top Bluefinger on the hill over the dark water to still run there but my blood of eerder Schweinetrab is Isala, and I' D came me at the surface, and I have myself each decrease drunk went through the pressure balance chamber door and received on the course Pepperbox the clock, which blows my brain, but I have it with the Spanish cocaine returned go noiseless, and I examined and made the cows the solemn oaths, if my choice is bad it made, her made me, and which corresponds with my door? I do not have it did not pay, her did not pay me to need to me disturb it sign here me the manager a friend mine am, thus go the baby, only more time am a lever jump at this thing on my back me, and everyone my choice were to clean me made, they made I, and who corresponds with my door? I paid it, paid her me"

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Reply author: langdonboom
Replied on: 04/02/2007 13:59:27
Message:

My two cents --

I love the research and scholarship everyone here has put into the Brood connection - definitely makes for a satisfying listen on a verbal/literary scale.

Though I have to say, this album has not really inspired me right away, which is fine since almost none of FB's albums have upon the first few listens, not even the unassailable masterpiece TOTY, but I I hope I'm not being too quibbling to say that this does not sound like the Pixies to me, nor TOTY - at least in terms of sonics (its much closer to the first FB&TC's in that regard, which is also in my top 3) - not nearly as much as say, Ft. Wayne does, which is the track I've been playing on non-stop repeat since I got it. THAT to me soudns like the return to the catchier-textured singing of FB, much more so than the talk-sing-riffage of Bluefinger.

A few songs are excellent grabbers, like Tight Black Rubber (which also happens to remind me of Rocket From The Crypt's Heart of a Rat, not a bad thing really) and Threshold Apprehension.

Here's my desire from a man who cares probably very little for the desires of his audience - I want to hear Frank carry a tune some more. Some dynamics in his songs, not just 'loudQUIETloud' or something, but something more than the middle-ground distortion of this very rocking album. Like when he 'says' "tight. black. rubber." its not terrible but it strikes me as kinda anti-climactic. Just a said-sung chorus. Not his highest moment, and definitely not taking advantage of his amazing pipes.

Perhaps it'll grow on me, but I can't seem to stop playing Ft. Wayne! And this from a guy who has bought the Japanese version of Honeycomb and FMRM, even though they weren't as great to me as the final Catholics albums.

In anycase, thank the music god for this man and his various ventures, I'll be along for the ride no matter what.

Reply author: TRANSMARINE
Replied on: 04/02/2007 15:46:57
Message:

quote:

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Originally posted by floop

it seems to make more sense since they were junkies and the whole album is filled with drug references, but i could be wrong



jamming good with Weird and Gilly

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Reply author: Mac E. Doobage
Replied on: 04/03/2007 03:25:47
Message:

Once and for all: who are the other musicians oin this album and where/when was it recorded?

FB Rec

Reply author: billgoodman
Replied on: 04/03/2007 03:38:43
Message:

makes me wonder if it was recorded in Zwolle. Frank's version of Beach Boys' 'Holland'!

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BF: Mag ik Engels spreken?

Reply author: pjcoble
Replied on: 04/03/2007 05:14:10
Message:

For those who have not heard it yet, including myself until now, Tight Black Rubber is now on youtube.com. Just search Black Francis, and it's there along with the others.

Reply author: pjcoble
Replied on: 04/03/2007 05:17:03
Message:

Here is the link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2j4utgPL_qY

Reply author: langdonboom
Replied on: 04/03/2007 08:15:12
Message:

okay, about three listens later, and I'm hooked. Its really strange to me how this happens to me on almost EVERY FB album, but I hear it at first and go 'oh well, his earlier stuff is great at least... can't be greedy' and then a few closer listens and it just emerges. THe ending of Angels Come to Comfort You DEFINITELY sounds like it could fit on TOTY, as does Discotheque 36. And he does sing a bit more than I was griping about on Tight Black Rubber, though he is channeling his inner Lou Reed in a good way. The shouts definitly fit into a pixies-ish vibe. And might I add the muscle-y end riff on Lolita is another great blast of Frank-noise, fittting right into his amazing ability to slice pieces of seemingly 'different songs' together (I'd put the end of Angels in that too).

Reply author: coastline
Replied on: 04/03/2007 09:03:44
Message:

Am I the only one who has noticed that most of the songs on "Bluefinger" have fanstastic endings? Often, so much effort goes into the beginnings of songs, and the endings are just a sort of fading-out of what has already gone on in a song (this goes for any artist, not just FB). But on this album, he seriously considered finishing the songs strongly.

Reply author: Carl
Replied on: 04/03/2007 09:09:12
Message:

Listening to this again now. Just wanna say this is the best freebie leaked album ever.

Reply author: Grotesque
Replied on: 04/03/2007 09:38:36
Message:

quote:

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Originally posted by coastline

Am I the only one who has noticed that most of the songs on "Bluefinger" have fanstastic endings? Often, so much effort goes into the beginnings of songs, and the endings are just a sort of fading-out of what has already gone on in a song (this goes for any artist, not just FB). But on this album, he seriously considered finishing the songs strongly.

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Please pardon me, for these my wrongs.

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Reply author: coastline
Replied on: 04/03/2007 11:11:59
Message:

quote:

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Originally posted by Carl

Listening to this again now. Just wanna say this is the best freebie leaked album ever.

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Reply author: billgoodman
Replied on: 04/03/2007 12:08:04
Message:

Please let Frank decide to shit can the record or maybe lose the masters...it would be another mystery record everybody owns in some form and be hyped and cultivated by the indiepress. Sometimes unfinished or unreleased albums are the best (Smile)

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BF: Mag ik Engels spreken?

Reply author: TRANSMARINE
Replied on: 04/03/2007 12:48:37
Message:

SHE TOOK ALL THE MONEY marks the first time (that I can think of) where Frank sings with a definate vibrato! Very strange, yet it really beautifies his already kick-ass voice!

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His name is Dalton. He's got a degree in philosophy.
-bRIAN

Reply author: MissMaceo
Replied on: 04/03/2007 12:52:29
Message:

I can't wait to buy this. So good.

Remember the part in loudQUIETloud when frank says he lets the others in the band hear his demos to remind them he's 'still in the songwriting game?'

This sounds like what that album might've been had it been made.

It's like Frank doing Pixies songs
hence the name he used perhaps?

Reply author: Dallas
Replied on: 04/03/2007 13:01:21
Message:

Got it last night. Its all true, its fantastic. It resonated with me immediately, especially Capt Pasty and TA.

There has got to be some message to the pixies with the name change. I mean, if the Pixies (KD?) hesitated after hearing the demos and Charles said, "you can't put Pandora back in the box, Black Francis has returned whether the Pixies are on board or not"

Reply author: Dallas
Replied on: 04/03/2007 13:03:58
Message:

also I am generally against artists having wifey or boytoy join the band. Not for any ethos or anything, it just doesn't seem to work out. That said, Violet's voice SHOULD be on this record. She adds an element, and I don't think she sounds a lot like Kim (who is incredible, don't get me wrong) either. I dig it.

Reply author: TRANSMARINE
Replied on: 04/03/2007 13:09:42
Message:

I may be in the minority, but I need to chime in and say I really hear no PIXIES sound in this...perhaps CAPTAIN PASTY seems like it could be a distant cousin of a song from Trompe le Monde, but other than that, no. Sounds like Frank Black. In my opinion, of course. To me, BLUEFINGER feels quite a bit like ODDBALLS...wonderful unheard b-sides, or something. But don't get my statement wrong...BLUEFINGER is what we have all been waiting for...for years. Not to diminish the past 6 albums, but BLUEFINGER ARE GO!

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His name is Dalton. He's got a degree in philosophy.
-bRIAN

Reply author: matto
Replied on: 04/03/2007 13:25:28
Message:

quote:

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Originally posted by Dallas

Got it last night. Its all true, its fantastic. It resonated with me immediately, especially Capt Pasty and TA.

There has got to be some message to the pixies with the name change. I mean, if the Pixies (KD?) hesitated after hearing the demos and Charles said, "you can't put Pandora back in the box, Black Francis has returned whether the Pixies are on board or not"

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Reply author: Dallas
Replied on: 04/03/2007 13:25:53
Message:

I dont think the sound of this disc is pure pixies, but, I think some of these songs could have been great pixies songs and would not sound the way they do on BF. I dig them as is, and more than anything, we need an untethered Charles who can follow his muse and not be slowed down (ha, relative only to his past output) as he was during the Pixies touring years. If he didnt record honeycomb in 1 or 2 day marathon sessions, there would have been a pretty big gap between FB records (again, for him).

Reply author: whitefrancis
Replied on: 04/03/2007 13:29:57
Message:

i agree, nothing at all like the pixies, (fort wayne, now THAT is pixies) but as a catholics-y album, it's great. threshold good stuff, the middle to ending of angels beautiful and your mouth into mine good stuff too. really don't like the fact he's releasing this as black francis though.
looking forward to buying this cd, hopefully the release date gets brought forward, september seems a long way away for something leaked that's this decent.

Reply author: langdonboom
Replied on: 04/03/2007 13:34:31
Message:

quote:

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Originally posted by TRANSMARINE
To me, BLUEFINGER feels quite a bit like ODDBALLS.

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Reply author: darwin
Replied on: 04/03/2007 13:39:28
Message:

Lolita, which I think is the best song on the album, sounds like a post-Catholics Frank Black song.

Reply author: edisdead
Replied on: 04/03/2007 13:48:27
Message:

Captain pasty, lolita and your mouth into mine are the best for me.
I agree with you transmarine when you say that bluefinger doesn't sound like pixies album. I miss riffs that make the difference between pixies songs and FB songs.
It is just pure Frank Black Francis.

But i'm still looking forward to seeing him on stage in Lille aeronef. It will be a great moment !!

Reply author: MissMaceo
Replied on: 04/03/2007 13:51:15
Message:

"really don't like the fact he's releasing this as black francis though."

why?

Reply author: langdonboom
Replied on: 04/03/2007 13:52:45
Message:

quote:

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Originally posted by MissMaceo

"really don't like the fact he's releasing this as black francis though."

why?

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Reply author: MissMaceo
Replied on: 04/03/2007 13:56:01
Message:

hah
fair enough
really though...
i'm sure there's an interesting reason for that opinion, look forward to hearing it

Reply author: gyaneshwar
Replied on: 04/03/2007 14:02:26
Message:

Hey - anyone having an issue with the YouTube videos being private now, instead of public? I can't view any of them except "Your Mouth Into Mine" now. That includes the new "Tight Black Rubber" post.

Reply author: frankblackphx
Replied on: 04/03/2007 14:11:00
Message:

I have bought 5 CD's since I received Bluefinger and I just can't stop listening to it. The other CD's are just sitting on my shelf. His CD's are so addictive.

Dan

Here I am for your judgement
When the paint grows darker still

Reply author: whitefrancis
Replied on: 04/03/2007 14:19:44
Message:

quote:

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Originally posted by MissMaceo

"really don't like the fact he's releasing this as black francis though."

why?

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Reply author: Jefrey
Replied on: 04/03/2007 14:45:05
Message:

quote:

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Originally posted by whitefrancis

quote:

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Originally posted by MissMaceo

"really don't like the fact he's releasing this as black francis though."

why?

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#1 well, anything released so far as black francis has been pixies, so just as kim (and a lot of others like myself) don't want the 'legacy' to be ruined...this 'tampers' with it a little.
#2 what langdonboom said. lol

but hey, it's his work, he can do as he pleases. just airing my thoughts.

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Reply author: Wee Mac
Replied on: 04/03/2007 16:34:17
Message:

Doesn't he make you sick? How does he do it? Not only does he have a staggering voice, write songs in any style you care to choose, plays a mean guitar and now to cap it all I find he plays a mean harmonica too!

Fekkin brilliant - Threshold apprehension has more than a touch of early white stripes about it (which is odd considering I've allways thought they had more than a dash of another band about 'em). And as for the ooooooo's on 'angels coem to comfort you' they exceed those of another song (you know the one).

As much as I love google I hope the leak doesn't damage sales of this gem.

Right, I'm off to google more of this Brood chap

Reply author: whitefrancis
Replied on: 04/03/2007 16:37:35
Message:

[/quote]

Actually some of the songs on ChristMASS are credited as written by Black Francis.
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i get ya, but a writing credit is different to something actually released under that name.

Reply author: Helmut
Replied on: 04/03/2007 17:46:01
Message:

Loving this album. Definately one of his best. Good solid pop/rock. Guess his found his old muse whilst trying to write Pixies songs. Some of his latest songs have a Pixieish vibe about them.

Reply author: IceManCometh
Replied on: 04/03/2007 17:52:24
Message:

This album just gets better and better. FB blindsided and suckerpunched me with this one. Just when I wasn't as enthused about his new work as I used to be.

I have to agree with the general consensus that the Pixies comparisons are a little off the mark. There are a few moments here and there, but this does seem like a rejuvenated Frank Black, circa early to mid-nineties. Oddballs? I don't see it. I think some of those recordings sound a little muddy and rushed, though there are some great tossed-off gems.

Actually, my love for Bluefinger has compelled me to listen to his back catalogue in the last week. To me, if you listen to them side to side, Bluefinger seems like a distant cousin to the eponymous Catholics record. The brevity, the variety, the roughness, the immediacy. There's also a touch of earlier stuff (the odd-timed, lopsided ending of "Angels" sounds like the ending of "Parry the Wind High Low").

In short, it takes everything I like about a lot of the old records, assimilates it, and turns it into a new, energized direction. Viva Black Francis, I say.

In the end it's all pop song, I guess.

Reply author: Daisy Girl
Replied on: 04/03/2007 17:56:27
Message:

Sign me up for 5 copies!!

bluefinger

Reply author: Mac E. Doobage
Replied on: 04/03/2007 18:48:45
Message:

No one said this music is a freebie.

quote:

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Originally posted by Carl

Listening to this again now. Just wanna say this is the best freebie leaked album ever.

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Reply author: coastline
Replied on: 04/03/2007 20:07:16
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quote:

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Originally posted by Mac E. Doobage

No one said this music is a freebie.

quote:

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Originally posted by Carl

Listening to this again now. Just wanna say this is the best freebie leaked album ever.

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Reply author: Steak n Sabre
Replied on: 04/03/2007 22:38:51
Message:

Doesn't someone who shoots up in their hands end up with some nasty black & Blue Fingers ??

After you've heard this disc for a few weeks, 'Threshold Apprehension' might well be your least favorite track...

How about the 'Oh-Ohss' on Disco 36? Nice.... Great bass line and hook too, what more can anyone want?

I'm sticking with the alphabetical order no matter how the release comes out, it's spot on...

Reply author: frankoholic
Replied on: 04/03/2007 23:48:09
Message:

this album being about Herman Brood and all he should get some major attention in 'de lage landen'. I hope he comes on de laatste show or something. Bluefinger is absolutely great. To me it sounds like a sum of his hole carreer. I have it on repeat for a couple of days now and loving it more and more. It strikes me how he can make something as tragic as the suicide of Brood into a heroic romantic thing. He's a such great narrator. Amen.

Reply author: OLDMANOTY
Replied on: 04/04/2007 04:02:13
Message:

I think it's one of those rare albums that hits you straight away (like it has for me) yet continues to reveal new qualities the more you hear it - and it's only the rough version! For me there's a nod to all aspects of previous eras; Pixies (Captain Pasty), early Frank (Threshold Apprehension), Catholics ( Bluefinger), Nashville (Test Pilot Blues). Anyway, it's undoubtedly the soundrack to summer 2007. Felt a little uncomfortable downloading it but I will of course, like most here I'm sure, buy the cd when it comes out.

Incidently, I kept misreading Captain Pasty for Captain Pastry - now what would THAT have been about?!

Reply author: ccuadros
Replied on: 04/04/2007 04:26:25
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quote:

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Originally posted by OLDMANOTY

I think it's one of those rare albums that hits you straight away (like it has for me) yet continues to reveal new qualities the more you hear it - and it's only the rough version! For me there's a nod to all aspects of previous eras; Pixies (Captain Pasty), early Frank (Threshold Apprehension), Catholics ( Bluefinger), Nashville (Test Pilot Blues). Anyway, it's undoubtedly the soundrack to summer 2007. Felt a little uncomfortable downloading it but I will of course, like most here I'm sure, buy the cd when it comes out.

Incidently, I kept misreading Captain Pasty for Captain Pastry - now what would THAT have been about?!

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Reply author: frankoholic
Replied on: 04/04/2007 04:32:08
Message:

soulseek
don't tell anyone

Reply author: frankoholic
Replied on: 04/04/2007 04:36:28
Message:

I'm pretty sure that everybody who's posting on this forum is a dedicated fan. Don't feel bad downloading it if you're going to buy it. Those 'downloading is a crime' commercials are really getting into our subconciousness (I know it's bad spelling, too lazy to look it up).

Reply author: Carl
Replied on: 04/04/2007 04:39:45
Message:

I would imagine that just about everyone on here will buy the finished product in any case.

Reply author: OLDMANOTY
Replied on: 04/04/2007 04:46:49
Message:

quote:

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Originally posted by ccuadros

quote:

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Originally posted by OLDMANOTY

I think it's one of those rare albums that hits you straight away (like it has for me) yet continues to reveal new qualities the more you hear it - and it's only the rough version! For me there's a nod to all aspects of previous eras; Pixies (Captain Pasty), early Frank (Threshold Apprehension), Catholics ( Bluefinger), Nashville (Test Pilot Blues). Anyway, it's undoubtedly the soundrack to summer 2007. Felt a little uncomfortable downloading it but I will of course, like most here I'm sure, buy the cd when it comes out.

Incidently, I kept misreading Captain Pasty for Captain Pastry - now what would THAT have been about?!

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I´ll do the same, but...where did you get it?? i couldn´t find it

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Reply author: coastline
Replied on: 04/04/2007 04:54:44
Message:

You could always e-mail a forum member and ask politely. Don't know about the rest of you, but this Soulseek business makes me uneasy. If I were trying to obtain a copy of this thing, I'd surely rather get it from a trusted member of the forum.

Reply author: two reelers
Replied on: 04/04/2007 05:29:32
Message:

from what i've heard so far i'm not very enthusiastic about the album. am i the only one ?


I joined the cult of Souled American / 'cause they are a damn' fine band

Reply author: Carl
Replied on: 04/04/2007 05:38:30
Message:

Yes.

Reply author: remig
Replied on: 04/04/2007 05:39:08
Message:

Yes.
What's wrong?

Reply author: Wee Mac
Replied on: 04/04/2007 06:07:50
Message:

quote:

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Originally posted by OLDMANOTY


Incidently, I kept misreading Captain Pasty for Captain Pastry - now what would THAT have been about?!

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Reply author: two reelers
Replied on: 04/04/2007 06:08:49
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quote:

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Originally posted by remig

Yes.
What's wrong?

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Reply author: billgoodman
Replied on: 04/04/2007 06:17:23
Message:

I'm sure they will

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BF: Mag ik Engels spreken?

Reply author: misterwoe
Replied on: 04/04/2007 06:41:09
Message:

So, I finally got the album, and it kicks my ass! The bass is nice and mean on this thing! Hope that doesn't get changed during a final mix, you know? Who played bass on this anyway? Do we know? Do we know ANYTHING?

When I first listened to it, I cranked it all the way to 11, bounced around my room and ran outside into a thorn bush, naked.

All right. Back to work.

I'll be by the pool, playing with my guns.

Reply author: Stuart
Replied on: 04/04/2007 06:47:44
Message:

Just found it on Soulseek, and am waiting for it to download... I haven't read all these posts but it seems like Frank is returning to his mid 90's style, which I am well looking forward to. Can't wait to see him in Belgium!!!


Because your candle burned too bright, that I almost forgot it was twilight

Reply author: fumanbru
Replied on: 04/04/2007 07:05:17
Message:

Great detective work everyone. Especially to Coastline and Billgoodman! Do you like my new font colour? I think i may do a new combination of blue plus orange in honour of the dutch!

And talk about PUNK ROCK CITY!!

Is this for real!! ….Thank you Charles Michael Kittridge Thompson IV Frank Black Francis!!! Pure gold!


This is ADDICTING! I’ve been listening to this non stop for the last week. Tight Black Rubber!! YES!! “Black on black…dressed in white…another day another guilder…mary had a little lamb..her sh*t was pure as snow”!! Classic Frank!

Frank! Violet! Dan the man!! Jason! Mark! And Herman Brood! This is a beautiful combination! Tight. That killer driving bass, the pounding drums, Frank’s guitar playing, Violet’s sweet background vocals, the art, the mystery, the lyrics, another Frank Black history lesson! ..the production…RAW…I love it!

Thank you!

I am not worthy

Reply author: coastline
Replied on: 04/04/2007 08:16:22
Message:

^
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The quintessential "Bluefinger" post. That sums it all up.

Reply author: Czar
Replied on: 04/04/2007 08:33:29
Message:

Fumanbru: boy, you seem as excited as I am.

Seriously, THIS IS AWESOME! It's the only thing I am listening to for two weeks. A real drug.

Reply author: Kirk
Replied on: 04/04/2007 09:09:23
Message:

It's been 3 days since I've listened to the album, and every time someone mentions "captain pasty" or "threshold apprehension" in a post, a f*cking 5 second clip of the song runs through my head. The songs are imbedded in my brain.

Reply author: kfs
Replied on: 04/04/2007 09:59:09
Message:

I've been listening to this music A LOT! I love it!! I'm afraid I'll get tired of listening to it before the release date...but...well, nevermind...I'll never get tired of Bluefinger!

'Angels Come To Comfort You' is my favorite track right now. I love the bouncy guitar part. Makes me wanna dance (and I don't dance!). Also, I'm really enjoying the lyrics.

One of the things I like most about this album is the bass. That got me thinking... doesn't FB have another song containing lyrics that go something like this: "I love the bass / so turn up the bass.." That's been bothering me because I just can't figure out which song it is. Anyone know the answer?

Reply author: Carl
Replied on: 04/04/2007 10:00:29
Message:

The beautiful chorus coda of Angels has been stuck in my head the last few days. Reminds me of Alec Eiffel, not that it actually sounds like it, but just in that it's a lovely, unexpected, choral ending!!

Reply author: coastline
Replied on: 04/04/2007 10:11:53
Message:

quote:

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Originally posted by kfs

One of the things I like most about this album is the bass. That got me thinking... doesn't FB have another song containing lyrics that go something like this: "I love the bass / so turn up the bass.." That's been bothering me because I just can't figure out which song it is. Anyone know the answer?

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Reply author: 2Strings
Replied on: 04/04/2007 10:39:40
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quote:

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Originally posted by two reelers

from what i've heard so far i'm not very enthusiastic about the album. am i the only one ?

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Reply author: coastline
Replied on: 04/04/2007 10:43:44
Message:

What songs do people think would make a good first single from this album? My vote would be for "Your Mouth Into Mine." Besides being my favorite (right now), it's catchy, it's provocative (if you don't know the actual meaning), and it sums up exactly why this album was recorded. But I could make a great case for the title track, too.

Reply author: starmekitten
Replied on: 04/04/2007 11:09:07
Message:

Who on earth is putting this on soulseek? I would strongly state that I think this is a bad idea. This isn't about being elitest and allowing the few to have it this is about having some sort of reign on the leak. We're fortunate here that we get these things filter through to us. We're very lucky indeed and usually what happens is someone passess it to someone else who will pass it to a select few with a request to keep it quiet and they will pass it to a few more and on the quiet quite a few people are lucky enough to hear something awesome soon. What worries me about this is the lack of anything subtle in the way this album has been handled and discussed. Posting asking for it is bad form. Posting new threads asking for it is worse form. Hell, I personally consider so open a discussion bad form but what do I know. Seeing as it is so open a discussion it's obvious to all who has it and who doesn't. Email someone you know from here and ask them. If you don't know anyones name well enough to take the time to email and ask then you've no business with it anyway. I'm going to start getting real narky if I see another boat of "where can I download this album" posts or any begging.

I hope this virus like spread doesn't affect any future business.

Idiot.

Reply author: kfs
Replied on: 04/04/2007 11:11:01
Message:

quote:

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Originally posted by coastline

quote:

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Originally posted by kfs

One of the things I like most about this album is the bass. That got me thinking... doesn't FB have another song containing lyrics that go something like this: "I love the bass / so turn up the bass.." That's been bothering me because I just can't figure out which song it is. Anyone know the answer?

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Totally agreed, Kelly. The bass is amazing on this album. It's the reason I opted for new headphones the other day, instead of the Morrissey tix. I wanted to really hear that great bass, which my cheapo backup headphones don't give me.

Oh, and the line you're thinking of is from "Fiddle Riddle":

Piano it marks the good pace
Ooh yeah, the good pace
Don't know if it's right, but I like the bass
So turn up the bass

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Please pardon me, for these my wrongs.

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Reply author: coastline
Replied on: 04/04/2007 11:52:43
Message:

Hey, Dutch forum members -- tell us more about "Isala" and "Sassengate," which FB sings about on the title track. I'm probably spelling those wrong, but I'm really curious about them.

Reply author: fumanbru
Replied on: 04/04/2007 11:56:04
Message:

quote:

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Originally posted by coastline

Am I the only one who has noticed that most of the songs on "Bluefinger" have fanstastic endings? Often, so much effort goes into the beginnings of songs, and the endings are just a sort of fading-out of what has already gone on in a song (this goes for any artist, not just FB). But on this album, he seriously considered finishing the songs strongly.

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Please pardon me, for these my wrongs.

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Reply author: velvety
Replied on: 04/04/2007 11:56:13
Message:

quote:

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Originally posted by starmekitten

Who on earth is putting this on soulseek? I would strongly state that I think this is a bad idea. This isn't about being elitest and allowing the few to have it this is about having some sort of reign on the leak. We're fortunate here that we get these things filter through to us. We're very lucky indeed and usually what happens is someone passess it to someone else who will pass it to a select few with a request to keep it quiet and they will pass it to a few more and on the quiet quite a few people are lucky enough to hear something awesome soon. What worries me about this is the lack of anything subtle in the way this album has been handled and discussed. Posting asking for it is bad form. Posting new threads asking for it is worse form. Hell, I personally consider so open a discussion bad form but what do I know. Seeing as it is so open a discussion it's obvious to all who has it and who doesn't. Email someone you know from here and ask them. If you don't know anyones name well enough to take the time to email and ask then you've no business with it anyway. I'm going to start getting real narky if I see another boat of "where can I download this album" posts or any begging.

I hope this virus like spread doesn't affect any future business.

Idiot.

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Reply author: frankblackphx
Replied on: 04/04/2007 12:23:39
Message:

Angel's come To Comfort You has been the biggest grower on me. When I first heard the album it was my least liked song by far and now has become one of my favorites. The ending is so hypnotizing. It really just relax's me. I also love the odd time signatures at the end. When it feels like it goes into the 3/4 time signature and back to 4/4. The chord strumming at the end is also just classic Frank.

The part that has grown on me the most though is the first half. I love the "They will lead you by the hand" part of the song.



Here I am for your judgement
When the paint grows darker still

Reply author: misterwoe
Replied on: 04/04/2007 12:31:43
Message:

quote:

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Originally posted by starmekitten

Who on earth is putting this on soulseek? I would strongly state that I think this is a bad idea. This isn't about being elitest and allowing the few to have it this is about having some sort of reign on the leak. We're fortunate here that we get these things filter through to us. We're very lucky indeed and usually what happens is someone passess it to someone else who will pass it to a select few with a request to keep it quiet and they will pass it to a few more and on the quiet quite a few people are lucky enough to hear something awesome soon. What worries me about this is the lack of anything subtle in the way this album has been handled and discussed. Posting asking for it is bad form. Posting new threads asking for it is worse form. Hell, I personally consider so open a discussion bad form but what do I know. Seeing as it is so open a discussion it's obvious to all who has it and who doesn't. Email someone you know from here and ask them. If you don't know anyones name well enough to take the time to email and ask then you've no business with it anyway. I'm going to start getting real narky if I see another boat of "where can I download this album" posts or any begging.

I hope this virus like spread doesn't affect any future business.

Idiot.

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Reply author: johnnyribcage
Replied on: 04/04/2007 13:31:33
Message:

I finally heard at least a couple tracks off this (from youtube)....
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO-HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BACK IN BLACK!

Reply author: Brank_Flack
Replied on: 04/04/2007 13:31:48
Message:

quote:

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Originally posted by two reelers

quote:

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Originally posted by remig

Yes.
What's wrong?

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i guess i don't like the punk music. (btw, COR is anything but punk to me). i also miss a lead guitar, i think. i looove the raw sound of FB&TC, and some might say, BF is raw too, but i miss the rock. i only hear punk. and i don't like punk. for me, BF doesn't rock.

anyway, looking forward to some more listens. probably my mind will change.

I joined the cult of Souled American / 'cause they are a damn' fine band

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Reply author: chickenwithtwoheads
Replied on: 04/04/2007 13:32:50
Message:

quote:

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Originally posted by coastline

Hey, Dutch forum members -- tell us more about "Isala" and "Sassengate," which FB sings about on the title track. I'm probably spelling those wrong, but I'm really curious about them.

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Reply author: chickenwithtwoheads
Replied on: 04/04/2007 13:43:07
Message:

Isala is the ancient name for the river Ijssel, which flows nearby the city of Zwolle.
Het Zwarte water (Black water, "dark water...") is a 19 km long river which is formed just south of the city of Zwolle.

And this is De peperbus ("Pepperbox...")

Reply author: chickenwithtwoheads
Replied on: 04/04/2007 14:26:28
Message:

Bluefingers are the inhabitants of Zwolle.

Once upon a time the inhabitants of Zwolle sold out-of-tune churchbells to the city of Kampen.
The people from Kampen weren't very happy with their purchase and decided to 'pay them back.'
They paid the gigantic sum entirely with duiten.
The inhabitants of Zwolle ended up with blue fingers due to the endless counting of all the money.

(Duiten are ancient Dutch coins. 160 duit equal to one gulden (guilder))

Reply author: s_wrenn
Replied on: 04/04/2007 14:32:37
Message:

3.20 “Threshold, threshold, threshold, dih dah, dih dah, dih dah, dih dah, dih dah…”

I like to imagine the when he was writing the lyrics he wrote in the “dih dah‘s”

Reply author: coastline
Replied on: 04/04/2007 14:39:45
Message:

quote:

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Originally posted by chickenwithtwoheads

Isala is the ancient name for the river Ijssel, which flows nearby the city of Zwolle.
Het Zwarte water (Black water, "dark water...") is a 19 km long river which is formed just south of the city of Zwolle.

And this is De peperbus ("Pepperbox...")

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Reply author: Luis Bunuel
Replied on: 04/04/2007 14:45:47
Message:

the line "He played piano really fucking good" has been going through my head non-stop for the past day or so. :)

Reply author: Grotesque
Replied on: 04/04/2007 14:46:04
Message:

It's a very strange experience in having JUST THE MUSIC of Bluefinger. No liner notes, no sleeves, no picture or drawing: just pure music!
As I'm not exatly from the mp3 generation, I allways like to think to the visuals of an album when I think to the music. With Bluefinger there is just that distorded face of Herman Brood playing "You cant break a heart and have it", watching us like a ghost leaking from the net.

Reply author: pixiestu
Replied on: 04/04/2007 14:56:11
Message:

quote:

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Originally posted by Luis Bunuel

the line "He played piano really fucking good" has been going through my head non-stop for the past day or so. :)

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Reply author: Grotesque
Replied on: 04/04/2007 15:04:45
Message:

quote:

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Originally posted by pixiestu

quote:

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Originally posted by Luis Bunuel

the line "He played piano really fucking good" has been going through my head non-stop for the past day or so. :)

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I just love the way he says "fucking".

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"The arc of triumph"

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Reply author: Sprite
Replied on: 04/04/2007 15:09:20
Message:

Never downloaded a Frank album before, always happy to wait for the official release but reading these posts I had to see what all the fuss was about. And Jesus was I floored. I think Threshold is a top 5 Frank tune of all time.

Reply author: Born to Lose
Replied on: 04/04/2007 17:06:15
Message:

The anticipation for the actual release date is killing me.

Reply author: the man who is too loud
Replied on: 04/04/2007 18:11:17
Message:

quote:

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Originally posted by frankoholic

this album being about Herman Brood and all he should get some major attention in 'de lage landen'. I hope he comes on de laatste show or something. Bluefinger is absolutely great. To me it sounds like a sum of his hole carreer. I have it on repeat for a couple of days now and loving it more and more. It strikes me how he can make something as tragic as the suicide of Brood into a heroic romantic thing. He's a such great narrator. Amen.

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Reply author: ccuadros
Replied on: 04/04/2007 19:21:19
Message:

I´ve just get it, what a album man!!, I can´t wait the official release to buy it, 100% raw rock, I love it, for me this is the best album since TOTY.

Reply author: morgan
Replied on: 04/04/2007 19:55:56
Message:

quote:

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Originally posted by Born to Lose

The anticipation for the actual release date is killing me.

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Reply author: coastline
Replied on: 04/04/2007 20:01:51
Message:

Whoa! Good eye, Morgan. So it's gonna be on Cooking Vinyl. They're charging $29.99, at least for the import version that would be shipped to amazon.com users. And, to answer a question that a lot of people having been wondering, yes, it's under the name Black Francis. (Time to fix the wiki, anazgnos.)

Reply author: Juri
Replied on: 04/04/2007 20:57:57
Message:

Cool Herman Brood Story:

I don't have the album yet and can't wait. I love the fact that Frank is doing this.

I am Dutch and don't know a lot about Brood except for this story that is stuck in my head... kinda like an Urban Legend... The story goes that Brood would not pay his taxes, he didn't care about it so he would be fined and the story goes that he would spend a few months in jail painting to pay off his tax debt. When asked, he would say that he actually enjoyed his time there cause he got along with the guards and was able to focus on his art and was not being bothered by anyone. I always thought that was pretty cool.

Reply author: soundofataris
Replied on: 04/04/2007 21:15:21
Message:

yeah, this I like. This I like a whole lot. I'm a happy Brendan. Can't wait to actually purchase the sucker.

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i try to be mallory but i'm still skippy

Reply author: lucmove
Replied on: 04/04/2007 21:35:20
Message:

I'm going to join the speculation game. I think this was indeed supposed to be a Pixies album. Why?

1) A big part of it sounds very Pixie-ish. More than anything else that Frank has ever recorded as "Frank Black". The more I listen to Bluefinger, the more I feel like Santiago is going to kick in with his unique style and fill what almost feels like blanks. The whole thing tastes like a very good dish that, however, lacks a little seasoning or dressing. It's Santiago's guitar that is clearly missing.

2) Why release Bluefinger as "Black Francis" (according to Amazon)? Because that's the hat he had on when he wrote it. I can't see any other explanation. Actually, I think that by doing that he is saying quite clearly to everyone that this was supposed to be a Pixies album. If that is not his intention, he had better not release it as "Black Francis", because that's the message it is going to send.

3) His wife had never sung in any of his work until now. Actually, "Strange Good-Bye" was the only Frank Black solo song that ever featured any female voice as far as I can remember. What's with the female voice now, all of a sudden? She is filling in for Kim Deal, of course. The songs were written with a female voice in mind. Kim is not available, so Violet steps in.

4) That cryptic message that was published here (and disappeared?) mentioned "no little people involved". If "little people" was indeed a reference to the Pixies, Frank said that because he knew that the recipient of the message had some good reason to believe that they would be involved. He wouldn't even have mentioned it otherwise. He felt he had to add that the recording did not go quite as originally planned. Because Kim Deal refused it? We may never know.

5) Please stop dissing Kim Deal. We still don't know if she refused anything, and if she did, she's gotta have her reasons, we've got to respect that and I love everything the Breeders have made so far.

But that's all speculation, of course. And the album is great as it is already.

Reply author: billgoodman
Replied on: 04/05/2007 01:07:23
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Am I the only one who has noticed that most of the songs on "Bluefinger" have fanstastic endings? Often, so much effort goes into the beginnings of songs, and the endings are just a sort of fading-out of what has already gone on in a song (this goes for any artist, not just FB). But on this album, he seriously considered finishing the songs strongly.

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And how about Angels Come To Comfort You!! Absolutely beautiful song with an incredible ending! The ooh's from the heavenly angels!! I get a visual of an ending to a Herman Brood movie...the angels have taken him away..the ambulance sirens in the background. In a way it reminds me a bit of Where Is My Mind at the end of Fight Club.

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Reply author: Czar
Replied on: 04/05/2007 03:53:57
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This may be redundant but I found the details interesting:

A door clicks shut.

"Do not disturb" swings to and fro on its handle.

A lonely Dutch legend aimlessly wanders the halls of the esteemed Amsterdam Hilton. He is, inarguably, the biggest rock and roll star his country has ever known. He is not, inarguably, the biggest rock and roll star to have ever wandered these halls.

Room 902. Seventh floor.

He finds the door and touches it. Room 902.

The Amsterdam Hilton, March 26, 1969 – The suite that is room 902 becomes the most famously photographed hotel room in the history of the world. Behind its doors lie one John Lennon and his peacenik artist wife Yoko Ono. They are in bed for the entire world to see; in bed for "peace" they say. It is a "Bed-In" to protest the bloodshed happening in a small Asian jungle country over a thousand miles and damn near a half-century away. In Vietnam, they say, both Americans and Vietnamese - young and old - are dying horrible deaths in the dark, dank, and damp jungle, in monsoon soaked rice fields, and in thatch hut villages.

So in a plush suite near the top of the Amsterdam Hilton, in an awfully cozy looking white bed, the biggest rock and roll star on the planet is holding court with his hippie-artist wife in an effort to "raise awareness" about these outrageous horrors that are occurring in our world – right now, while we lay here, under these blankets, atop these pillows, getting photographed.

It's a wonder they could even sleep at night.

Brood smiles... or is it a wince... or does he even care... or can he even care?

His hand touches the "9." It's shaking. Next the "0." Still shaking. He ignores the "2."

Fucking hand...

The air felt damp and cool on his face. The sun, still mostly hiding behind one of it's many friends, kisses the earth with a series of grey-rainbow smudges. July 11, 2001... ahh summer! To most Americans this would feel more like spring.

Fuck America, they did me worse than the damn dope did.

He glances down at the world below him and feels as high as he's ever felt.

Then he glances down at his hand by his side and it mocks him, shaking like an autumn leaf dying in the breeze.

He breathes deeply, and then sighs. Herman Brood takes one step forward and smiles at the thought of his goddamned hand never shaking again.

"I've had enough; maybe I'll be seeing you around. Make it a great party."
– suicide note left behind by Herman Brood, July 11, 2001

"Herman Brood jumping from the Amsterdam Hilton for us was like – I don't know, maybe Elvis blowing his brains out in the awareness of his own hopeless condition and some sort of premonition of something evil to come."
– Ad Vanderveen, Dutch musician

http://www.furious.com/PERFECT/hermanbrood.html

Reply author: Czar
Replied on: 04/05/2007 03:58:20
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BTW, his paintings are pretty good, I can see one used for the CD artwork.

Reply author: kfs
Replied on: 04/05/2007 06:31:57
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That's cool, Czar!

So... no lead guitar=punk? Didn't know that.
I thought I'd miss the lead guitar but I don't.

and HI lucmove! Enjoyed reading your Pixies speculation.

Reply author: lucmove
Replied on: 04/05/2007 07:01:14
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You know what the problem is with TOTY and FMRM? They spoil me. Whatever comes right after them looks like an EP. And I'm still hungry. I want more. No matter how good Bluefinger is, 11 songs can't be anything more than just an appetizer, can they? Of course not.

I want more.

Reply author: langdonboom
Replied on: 04/05/2007 07:14:44
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Originally posted by lucmove

I'm going to join the speculation game. I think this was indeed supposed to be a Pixies album. Why?

1) A big part of it sounds very Pixie-ish. More than anything else that Frank has ever recorded as "Frank Black". The more I listen to Bluefinger, the more I feel like Santiago is going to kick in with his unique style and fill what almost feels like blanks. The whole thing tastes like a very good dish that, however, lacks a little seasoning or dressing. It's Santiago's guitar that is clearly missing.

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2) Why release Bluefinger as "Black Francis" (according to Amazon)? Because that's the hat he had on when he wrote it. I can't see any other explanation. Actually, I think that by doing that he is saying quite clearly to everyone that this was supposed to be a Pixies album. If that is not his intention, he had better not release it as "Black Francis", because that's the message it is going to send.

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3) His wife had never sung in any of his work until now. Actually, "Strange Good-Bye" was the only Frank Black solo song that ever featured any female voice as far as I can remember. What's with the female voice now, all of a sudden? She is filling in for Kim Deal, of course. The songs were written with a female voice in mind. Kim is not available, so Violet steps in.

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4) That cryptic message that was published here (and disappeared?) mentioned "no little people involved". If "little people" was indeed a reference to the Pixies, Frank said that because he knew that the recipient of the message had some good reason to believe that they would be involved. He wouldn't even have mentioned it otherwise. He felt he had to add that the recording did not go quite as originally planned. Because Kim Deal refused it? We may never know.

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5) Please stop dissing Kim Deal. We still don't know if she refused anything, and if she did, she's gotta have her reasons, we've got to respect that and I love everything the Breeders have made so far.

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Reply author: billgoodman
Replied on: 04/05/2007 07:28:51
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Jean sang on Manitoba, as did an other woman. So technically there were women singing on Frank's record before Strange Goodbye.

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Reply author: lucmove
Replied on: 04/05/2007 07:50:01
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Hi langdonboom. Regarding 2 posts above:

FWIW, I haven't had the pleasure to listen to Ft. Wayne yet, so I can't evaluate any comments about that. I haven't heard but a couple of tracks of Christmass yet either. Same problem.

About Kim, the problem is that everyone is speculating about what perhaps might just as well possibly have happened, but nobody KNOWS what really happened. Still considering it did happen, it's still just a matter of taste. Even among Pixies/FB fans there are those that feel the Pixies belong in the past and should be left alone. What if Kim also feels that way? She has every right to feel that way, or to think that whatever Frank came up with was good, but not good enough to support the idea of a new Pixies album. I, for one, strongly hope that they will come up with something really NEW or just forget about it. You know, in the name of dignity. I don't want a sequel to Trompe le Monde. Yeah, I would buy and probably enjoy it, but it would leave me with a bit of a sad aftertaste. Many interviews show us that the Pixies themselves are afraid of something like that.

Or maybe, who knows, maybe Kim Deal liked the songs, but said "that's nice, Charles, but wait until you hear these couple ideas I just had" and maybe Frank agreed and they're cooking up something else right now.

Or maybe Santiago or Lovering vetoed something about the new Pixies album.

Maybe personal reasons got in the way and they didn't even have a chance to discuss the artistic issues.

Who knows?

In any case, I think it is very premature to blame Kim Deal for anything whatsoever at this time.

Reply author: langdonboom
Replied on: 04/05/2007 08:02:16
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Reply author: Stuart
Replied on: 04/05/2007 08:08:21
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I am excited about this album... this is by far the best thing that Frank has released imo for the past ten years. I would rate this album above DITS. After a couple of listens I feel as excited about this album as I did when I first got into Frank Black when listening to the first solo album back in 2000. Actually the Black Sessions got me into him, but the first studio album which really gripped me was Frank Black (I was already a huge Pixies fan)... and that made me feel like I was listening to something great. With Bluefingers I have the same feeling.

I'll listen to this a few more times before I post my opinions of the songs.

Because your candle burned too bright, that I almost forgot it was twilight

Reply author: Grotesque
Replied on: 04/05/2007 08:48:53
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(****WARNING: speculation blah blah)

Since the pixies reformed Frank allways said Kim should write more songs.
Then if you imagine Bluefinger as a pixies project, what Kim could have had written? Some other songs about Herman Brood?
No, I think Bluefinger was not written for the pixies. At least not the lyrics. To write about a real famous person is very Frank Black solo, since "I heard Ramona song" on his first solo album. And as everybody said, it sounds very Frank Black, in the exeption of Threshold.
Songs like "Dont get me wrong" and "Fort Wayne" sound reallly really pixies and I would bet they where composed for that band. You know, that total absence of groove, that childish "twisted church choir" voice. To me those songs mean Frank hadnt lost the cake pan as he had said. The pixies are 100% white music. Frank's music is about 20% black, especially since he's done some soul music.

EXCEPT... If Frank Black Francis DOESN'T REALIZE AT ALL when he sounds pixies or solo.
That would be possible too.

Reply author: billgoodman
Replied on: 04/05/2007 09:33:24
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Frank just writes songs
he himself says it doesn't really think about it
not in the way: I'm going to write a country song. He had to explain his countrified solo year a lot. But there was no clear answer.
That being said, he did write songs for the Pixies and he said he was maybe just trying to sound like they should sound and that wasn't good enough. He stated that in various interviews. I believe those songs are all over Christmass, FM/RM and Bluefinger. We can guess, but there's no way to hear if a song is definately not intended for the Pixies. I mean Brackish Boy was written for the Pixies...And there's a lot of difference between The Happening and Tame and Build High

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Reply author: Kirk
Replied on: 04/05/2007 09:36:23
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I wonder if Brood has been sung about, pre-Bluefinger.
All Around the World?

He talks about needles in arms and all that fun stuff.

Reply author: billgoodman
Replied on: 04/05/2007 11:04:45
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that is a traditional (i.e. not written by Frank)
and is about the death penalty of a thieve
...but it could have been about Brood in some way

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Reply author: jnaus
Replied on: 04/05/2007 11:19:32
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5) Please stop dissing Kim Deal. We still don't know if she refused anything, and if she did, she's gotta have her reasons, we've got to respect that and I love everything the Breeders have made so far.

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Reply author: moksha23x
Replied on: 04/05/2007 11:47:13
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No, I think Bluefinger was not written for the pixies. At least not the lyrics. To write about a real famous person is very Frank Black solo

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Reply author: the acorahs
Replied on: 04/05/2007 11:53:45
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Originally posted by lucmove
5) Please stop dissing Kim Deal. We still don't know if she refused anything, and if she did, she's gotta have her reasons, we've got to respect that and I love everything the Breeders have made so far.

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I enjoy the Breeders a lot, from Pod to Safari to Last Splash... but...
did you actually like Title TK?

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Reply author: lucmove
Replied on: 04/05/2007 12:08:59
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Originally posted by jnausI enjoy the Breeders a lot, from Pod to Safari to Last Splash... but...
did you actually like Title TK?

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Reply author: lucmove
Replied on: 04/05/2007 12:20:50
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Originally posted by moksha23x ...Black Francis, Pixies, Herman Brood were all underground legends, eccentric, drug indulgers, artists who self-destructed and preserved their legend in death.

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Reply author: the acorahs
Replied on: 04/05/2007 12:43:57
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Originally posted by moksha23x ...Black Francis, Pixies, Herman Brood were all underground legends, eccentric, drug indulgers, artists who self-destructed and preserved their legend in death.

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Black Francis was a drug indulger? I'd never heard of that before. I thought that was just Kim (and her sister). No?

Actually, I haven't read that much about the Pixies or Frank Black and their private lives. I know very very little about that.

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Reply author: kfs
Replied on: 04/05/2007 13:07:25
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[quote]Originally posted by moksha23x
I'm babbling...but I'm going to edit and add this song quote to add to the Kim Deal debate in line with my post..... "I had my habits....I cannot lie...but I don't want to go through, This , Again,.....SHE took all the money,.... and hung me out to dry,........Why'd you have to go and break OUR heart"
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Actually, this song made me think of the Pixies too.
Also, it reminds me of 'She's My Way' which, in my head, is about the same person. You know..."I put the money down, see, it's too late" (paid to reserve the studio so you have to show up..) Then she didn't so now it's "she took all the money and hung me out to dry"
I know, it's silly, but it's fun to imagine....

Reply author: coastline
Replied on: 04/05/2007 13:29:59
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Not to pee in anybody's corn flakes here, but the song and the album aren't about FB's life; they're about Herman Brood's. Those are fun ways to look at the song, but in the context of the album, it seems clear it's about Brood and Nina Hagen.

As for "She's My Way," you might be on to something, kfs.

Reply author: prozacrat
Replied on: 04/05/2007 13:41:40
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I do agree with you, Coastline, and it seems pretty unlikely. But I wouldn't be surprised if he wrote the lyrics in such a way that it could be about both. I wouldn't consider myself a prolific songwriter, but I'd say at least half of the songs I write have lyrics that serve two or more meanings, and if a chump like me can do it (successfully or not) Frank could definitely pull it off. But I do think this album is pretty straight foward in its biographical (rather than autobiographical) method.

http://www.prozacrat.com
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Reply author: moksha23x
Replied on: 04/05/2007 13:43:23
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Not to pee in anybody's corn flakes here, but the song and the album aren't about FB's life; they're about Herman Brood's. Those are fun ways to look at the song, but in the context of the album, it seems clear it's about Brood and Nina Hagen.

As for "She's My Way," you might be on to something, kfs.

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Reply author: whitefrancis
Replied on: 04/05/2007 13:53:55
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title tk was great! it was still more on par with pixies/last splash/teenager/fb s/t than anything frank has done since teenager imo. back to bluefinger though, the more i listen to it, it sounds like the logical follow up to cult of ray. frank black #4 if you will.

Reply author: langdonboom
Replied on: 04/05/2007 14:00:19
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Originally posted by coastline

Not to pee in anybody's corn flakes here, but the song and the album aren't about FB's life; they're about Herman Brood's. Those are fun ways to look at the song, but in the context of the album, it seems clear it's about Brood and Nina Hagen.

As for "She's My Way," you might be on to something, kfs.

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I wouldn't feel my Corn Flakes were peed on, Coastline. I understand this is a Herman Brood Biographical concept, my idea is just an unfiltered thought, nothing concrete...... when people began saying things like there is "no way this could be Pixies" material I thought "I don't think you can definitely rule it out because....".

Really??? you can't even PONDER that Frank Black
possibly[/b] used a Herman Brood ressurection as a muse to ressurect his 'Black Francis','Pixies' muse????.......I'm not saying this is the way it is....I'm just saying check out this perspective. I know you, coastline, have probably thought of a lot of angles....why would you definitely rule it out???? I'm not being combative, I value your opinion.

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Reply author: floop
Replied on: 04/05/2007 14:00:58
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In any case, I think it is very premature to blame Kim Deal for anything whatsoever at this time.

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Reply author: coastline
Replied on: 04/05/2007 14:07:10
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For what? Inventing maple syrup?

Reply author: TheScooper
Replied on: 04/05/2007 14:57:52
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All I know is, if Kim hears Bluefinger and still has doubts that a new Pixies album would do anything but rule ass, she is crazy.

I love the little I've heard of bluefinger, but the ONLY thing that's missing for me (and the songs are still great without it) is a lead guitar. Add in Santiago's lead and Kim's vocals and these songs are straight out of the Pixies' golden era. Not to say that it would seem like an imitation, I just am speculating that they'd be just as good.

That said, the songs kick ass already.

Reply author: Stuart
Replied on: 04/05/2007 15:40:46
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Excuse my ignorance, what is Ft Wayne? Anything Pixies soundling I want to get my hands on. I have Bluefinger but it doesn't appear on my copy...

Because your candle burned too bright, that I almost forgot it was twilight

Reply author: billgoodman
Replied on: 04/05/2007 15:54:44
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Black Francis/Frank Black never took a lot of drugs as I recall. And it was mostly Kelley if we're talking about the Deal sisters. But what do we really know?

Ohh and I love all the breeders albums, all 3 of them and the Amps record. The only thing I don't like is the fact that there's only 4 records in a twenty year period (okay, not really twenty years, but they were called the Breeders long before Pod anyway)

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Reply author: johnnyribcage
Replied on: 04/05/2007 18:50:35
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Oh, Dark Mother... I've just listened to the full Bluefinger twice... I'll be buying two of this one. Maybe three. One to get down with, one to keep in the package, and one to try to get signed at a show. This is the most important thing Charles has done since the first Catholics. The man has been reborn. The crazy thing is, it really sounds as if "Black Francis" really is a split personality of the man, since this sounds closer to Pixies than anything else he did. Despite how that comes across, I'm of the belief that Frank's solo output is far more interesting and multi-facited than his Pixies era, but this reminds me of why I fell in love with his music in the first place.

Did he get tired of waiting for a Pixies studio date for a real album and just decide to throw this up to say, "LOOK!, I CAN STILL DO THIS TOO, I INVENTED IT FOR CHRIST'S SAKE!" or was it just time for the other side to re-emerge? One wonders if the "Frank Black" persona is actually just that - another side of many. What would a Black Charles album sound like? What would a Francis Thompson album sound like? Sorry, I'm going on a tangent here, but this one has the potential to bring Charles back to the forefront of music, if only it can get the right exposure. It sounds so fresh!!

Reply author: coastline
Replied on: 04/05/2007 19:54:30
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Excuse my ignorance, what is Ft Wayne? Anything Pixies soundling I want to get my hands on. I have Bluefinger but it doesn't appear on my copy...

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Reply author: Stuart
Replied on: 04/05/2007 21:31:35
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Thanks.. really digging this album. It's definately the best album for a long time. Some of the not so immediate likable songs are starting to creep up on me. I still think that Threshold Apprehension is the best though, that and Tight Black Rubber... sound very Pixies imo.

One song I do not like on the album is 'She took all the money.' For me it has too many choruses, which become annoying to listen to... I just can't see myself growing to like this song. Other than that, every other song on the album is starting to grow on me in true Frank Black style. Man, I have waited a while for an album like this from Franky-boy. I love it... someone mentioned that this is gonna be the sound of the summer and I have to agree that this album will dominate my cd player for the next few months for sure. It would be great if he plays some of these songs on his european tour!

Because your candle burned too bright, that I almost forgot it was twilight

Reply author: Jefrey
Replied on: 04/06/2007 01:59:51
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For what? Inventing maple syrup?

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Reply author: Jefrey
Replied on: 04/06/2007 02:04:39
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One song I do not like on the album is 'She took all the money.' For me it has too many choruses, which become annoying to listen to... I just can't see myself growing to like this song.

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Reply author: billgoodman
Replied on: 04/06/2007 02:37:06
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I believe someonse said it was about Nina Hagen and Herman Brood, there fling and rock and roll mariage. But I could be wrong

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Reply author: two reelers
Replied on: 04/06/2007 03:23:04
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after a few more listens, is still dislike this album. the only song i like is "lolita". don't get all the pixies/TOTY comparision, either. i just find the music on there very repetitive and predictable. its like after you have heard the fisrt 10 seconds, you know the rest of the song. for me, that was never the case with a pre-bluefinger song of frank black, even with the very simple ones (e.g., "distance equals..."). IMO, a lead guitar is definitely lacking on BF. on the other hand, i haven't listened to the lyrics of BF yet. and all this rant, thats just me.


I joined the cult of Souled American / 'cause they are a damn' fine band

Reply author: Stuart
Replied on: 04/06/2007 03:50:29
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You are entitled to your opinion, nobody should shoot you down for that. I know what you mean by the lack of the lead guitar, though.

Because your candle burned too bright, that I almost forgot it was twilight

Reply author: frankoholic
Replied on: 04/06/2007 04:27:23
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I think one of the things I like about this album is the lacking of lead guitar.

Reply author: yingguoguizi
Replied on: 04/06/2007 05:18:03
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yeah, I think it's a nice change to have no guitar solos. I do hope that it isn't a permanent thing, though. It is nice to have an album where you can hear Frank's guitar work really clearly.

Reply author: coastline
Replied on: 04/06/2007 05:19:51
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Originally posted by JefreyCoastline, what's the meaning of the song again? This album is so great if you know all the hidden trivia - I'd like to know.

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Reply author: two reelers
Replied on: 04/06/2007 05:48:04
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in austria nina hagen is known for her demonstration of masturbation in a (serious) late-night talk show, way back in the 80ies.
she had some funny songs, some (or many) about drugs. pretty "interesting" voice.

I joined the cult of Souled American / 'cause they are a damn' fine band

Reply author: billgoodman
Replied on: 04/06/2007 06:00:18
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In Threshold Apprehension there's some lead guitar, in the end, very burried in the mix. You can hear some notes.

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Reply author: vilainde
Replied on: 04/06/2007 06:04:40
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And there's some sort of guitar solo in Bluefinger.


Denis

Reply author: kfs
Replied on: 04/06/2007 07:08:53
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The first time I heard that "Shamalama Ding Dang..." I thought there would be NO WAY I'd ever like this song but now it's probably in my top 3 from Bluefinger.

Reply author: the_great_stupido
Replied on: 04/06/2007 08:02:57
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Originally posted by JefreyCoastline, what's the meaning of the song again? This album is so great if you know all the hidden trivia - I'd like to know.

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Well, there's a mistake -- thinking I know anything. At any rate, Billgoodman, Llamadance and I have discussed this one in passing, and we think it's about Brood's girlfriend Nina Hagen. Nothing concrete, other than the story seems to fit, and she is from Germany, which the song makes several references to.

Here are the lyrics:

Shamalama ding dang
Oh me, oh my
She took all the money
And left me here to cry

On my way to Hamburg
And we had a little booze
Now I'm stuck in Dresden
With the solitary blues

Shamalama ding dang
Oh me, oh my
She took all the money
And left me here to cry

I have my habits
I cannot lie
But I don't wanna
Go through this again

Shamalama ding dang
Oh me, oh my
She took all the money
And hung me out to dry

On my way to Central Station
There my train departs
Why'd she have to
Go and break our hearts?

Shamalama ding dang
Oh me, oh my
She took all the money
And now I can't get high

Don't want her lovin'
And I don't want her new address
I don't wanna know the reason why

Shamalama ding dang
Oh me, oh my
She took all the money
And left me here to die

Shamalama ding dang
Oh me, oh my
She took all the money
And left me here to die

Here's the wiki for Nina Hagen: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nina_Hagen

The interesting line in the song is "Why'd she have to go and break our hearts?" Not sure whose hearts she broke. Maybe somebody who knows more about her can figure that out.

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Please pardon me, for these my wrongs.

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Reply author: coastline
Replied on: 04/06/2007 08:39:32
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Stupid me ... I used cut and paste for the shamalama parts. I knew there were some different lines, but it was early this morning and I wasn't quite awake yet. Thanks, tgs.

Reply author: starmekitten
Replied on: 04/06/2007 09:00:30
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For those who missed this.

Idiot.

Reply author: Grotesque
Replied on: 04/06/2007 09:24:52
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Originally posted by jnaus

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Originally posted by lucmove
5) Please stop dissing Kim Deal. We still don't know if she refused anything, and if she did, she's gotta have her reasons, we've got to respect that and I love everything the Breeders have made so far.

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I enjoy the Breeders a lot, from Pod to Safari to Last Splash... but...
did you actually like Title TK?

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Little Fury? Off You? The She? Son Of Three? Full On Idle (Although Amps version is much better)? Sinister Foxx? Huffer?

They are all excellent tunes at least on par with the best from Last Splash and Pod

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