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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <
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 Posted - 03/27/2007 : 07:33:53
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Originally posted by Schitzophonic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SObtaJLekSs
Great work, Schitzophic. I had no idea this one was a cover.
Yeah, this whole album is about Herman Brood's life and death -- specifically his suicide. Sounds like some people here were on to it already. Right on. The most obvious song is "Angels Come to Comfort You." He mentions Brood's name and everything. Here are the lyrics, below. By the way, the first part means "May I speak English?" in Dutch. Thank goodness we've got at least one Dutch person on this forum -- billgoodman. He translated that for me, or I'd never have had a clue. Also, brood means bread in Dutch. That explains the line about the angels whispering the name that rhymes with dead.
(Mag ik Engels spreken?)
I saw the statue of Herman Brood
It had a lump way down in its throat
That's because its heart was broke in two
He played piano really fuckin' good
West Berlin to West Hollywood
Prettier than Brando, he was punker than punk
Slave to rock and roll, and a slave to junk
Angels come to comfort you
Yeah they do
And here they come
They'll lead you by the hand
They'll take you down the hall
And they will break your fall
He was no saint, but he was Dutch
So he could paint, yeah he had the touch
He felt the angels kiss him on the head
Whisperin' the name that rhymes with "dead"
Now the Hilton hotel in Amsterdam
Good enough for John and Yoko, man
Now you got the key to 902
Angels come to comfort you
Here they come
Here they come
They'll lead you by the hand
They'll take you down the hall
And they will break your fallllllllllllllll
(Ooh, ooh, ooh, ad finitum, sung by the angels)
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
3111 Posts |
Posted - 03/27/2007 : 07:34:42
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Originally posted by Llamadance
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The general admittingness
Of the night of Saturday
so that part is about their (Herman Brood & his wild romance) first hit, yeah?
Yeah, I think it has to be that -- the song "Saturday Night."
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Grotesque
= Cult of Ray =
France
777 Posts |
Posted - 03/27/2007 : 07:36:28
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Originally posted by PixieSteve
you didn't get the AIFF version?
FAST_MAN RAIDER_MAN - June 19th
I too listen to the mp3 and for that reason I'll shut up about the production till I have the real version (maybe in stores!)
Cos maybe the voice isn't that burried in Patsy's chorus, and I'll feel like a jerk when I'll finally hear it in a proper way... |
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
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Posted - 03/27/2007 : 07:44:49
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Okey doke, can someone elaborate on the theory that it's the whole album rather than just this song?
 Numberwang? |
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
3111 Posts |
Posted - 03/27/2007 : 07:55:08
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Sure, Cheeseman. A few examples, though I could really write a gigantic dissertation on it:
The song "Bluefinger" is sung from the point of view of Herman Brood reflecting on his life and his suicide. A bluefinger is a person from Zwolle, Holland, which is where Brood was from. He sings about coming down from the hill and then checks in to the hotel, and that's where he jumped to his death.
"Discotheque 36" is about a club in Amsterdam called Discotheque 36 on the Richter Scale, which is where Brood met his wife Alexandra (she's mentioned by name in the song).
"Captain Pasty" seems to be about looking up at Brood as he's about to jump off the hotel roof. "Captain Pasty, please report to the tarmac for a very important assignment. Godspeed." And "Test Pilot Blues" makes similar, veiled references to Brood's "flight."
Um, what else is there, Jop? I'm forgetting already. "Lolita" seems to be about his daughter Lola. Somebody suggested to me that "She Took All The Money" is about Nina Hagen, with whom Brood was romantically involved. Several references in that song to Germany, where Hagen is from.
Anybody else got more? I really need to transcribe the lyrics so I can get these things down. Most of the time, I just notice the lines as they go by in my headphones.
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Llamadance
> Teenager of the Year <
United Kingdom
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Posted - 03/27/2007 : 07:55:20
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Pasty - drugs
Threshold - his suicide
Pilot - suicide
Lolita - to his daughter (?)
rubber - drugs
Angels - his suicide
Mouth - hmm, sex?
D36 - meeting his wife
heart - a cover
Money - Nina Hagen (?)
Bluefinger - Brood looking back
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <
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Posted - 03/27/2007 : 07:58:26
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Oh, and I've got a theory on "Your Mouth Into Mine" that is really tenuous at best. I think he's singing to ... well, it sounds dumb to say it out loud ... a river. Don't know what river. Help me out, Jop. What river goes by Zwolle? I really think he's singing to some body of water, if not a river. (As in, the mouth of a river.) When I listen to it that way, it makes some sense, but I'm not really sure.
There are lots of references to drinking from this or that on the album, and mostly in a metaphorical sense, not like drinking from a bottle.
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Llamadance
> Teenager of the Year <
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Posted - 03/27/2007 : 08:01:58
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I like to think Mouth is about an eclipse, you know, the moon into the sun. I've no idea how it would fit.
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
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Posted - 03/27/2007 : 08:34:17
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Lola admitted to the dutch press that she wanted to explore the same drugs her father did.
Maybe that's what Lolita is about, because she was confronted with a lot of critic.
Also, Frank says something about salty drop which is a dutch candy
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anazgnos
= Cult of Ray =
USA
381 Posts |
Posted - 03/27/2007 : 08:37:17
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
3111 Posts |
Posted - 03/27/2007 : 08:52:37
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Here are the lyrics. To whoever complained a couple months ago that FB wasn't writing songs with weird structures anymore, try this one on for size. I can't make heads or tails of verses or choruses. I really like how he does that weird thing where alternates lines without finishing them. He did that at least once before -- I think it was in "I've Seen Your Picture."
All my days I've been listening you play
I've spent all my days, driving all my nights, trying
You are so big, but that don't make me so small
You rule the world, but now I am standing so tall
I'm taking your mouth into mine
Take it in now
Take it in now now now now
Been waiting all my days for you now
Been waiting all my
Got into your parts, and I
Made you squeal, and I
Got into you heart, it was
No big deal, and I'm
Taking your mouth into mine
Take it in now
Take it in now now now now
Been waiting all my days to get on that
Been waiting all my
Taking your mouth into mine
Suck it in now
Suck it in now now now now
Been waiting all my days to get on that
Waiting on my
I'm taking your mouth
Got into your parts, and I
Got into your charts, and I'm
Taking your mouth
I'm taking your mouth
I'm taking your mouth
Taking your mouth
Taking your mouth
I'm taking your mouth
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Kirk
= Cult of Ray =
USA
633 Posts |
Posted - 03/27/2007 : 09:14:36
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| i must be crazy, but I hear a lot of Shudder to Think in the guitar. It's raw and artsy. |
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Kirk
= Cult of Ray =
USA
633 Posts |
Posted - 03/27/2007 : 09:29:07
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Needs work on:
10 She Took All The Money
Shamalama Ding Dang.
Oh me, oh my.
She took all the money and left me here to cry.
On my way to a Hamburg and we had a little wooze
Now I’m stuck in Dresden with the solitary blues.
Shamalama Ding Dang.
Oh me, oh my.
She took all the money and left me here to cry.
I have my habits.
I can not lie.
But I don’t want to go through this again.
Shamalama Ding Dang
Oh me, oh my.
She took all the money and hung me out to dry.
On my way to central station
There my train departs
Why should she have to go and break our hearts?
Shamalama Ding Dang
Oh me, oh my.
She took all the money and now I can’t get by.
Don’t want her loving
And I don’t want her new address.
I don’t want to know the reason why.
Shamalama Ding Dang
Oh me, oh my.
She took all the money and left me here to die
Shamalama Ding Dang
Oh me, oh my.
She took all the money and left me here to die
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Kirk
= Cult of Ray =
USA
633 Posts |
Posted - 03/27/2007 : 09:29:40
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Needs work:
Bluefinger
Well, I am a bluefinger
From Up on the hill
Above the dark water that’s flowing there still
But my blood is a silo
And I’d rather still
I came down from the top
And I drank every drop
I will feel the ???
And I got on the train
The pepper box been blowing my brains
But I made it go quicker with Spanish cocaine
And I looked at the cows
And I missed all the vows
If my choices are poor
Would I have made them (I made them)
I made them (I made them)
And who’s knocking on my door?
I paid them. I paid them.
If my choices are poor
I made them (I made them)
I made them (I made them)
And who’s knocking on my door?
I paid them. I paid them.
I don’t need the do-not-disturb-me sign
The manager here is a friend of mine
So lady let’s go just one more time
I’m a jumping jack with this thing on my back
And all of my choices were pure
Yeah, I made them (I made them)
I made them (I made them)
And who’s that knocking on my door
Well, I paid them. Yeah, I hate them.
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anazgnos
= Cult of Ray =
USA
381 Posts |
Posted - 03/27/2007 : 09:42:34
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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <
Poland
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Posted - 03/27/2007 : 09:42:37
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the fullstops are funny
FAST_MAN RAIDER_MAN - June 19th |
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Kirk
= Cult of Ray =
USA
633 Posts |
Posted - 03/27/2007 : 09:44:23
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Needs work:
You Can't Break A Heart And Have It
You can shoot the breeze
You can shoot your shit.
You can shoot it up
Ah, you can shoot from the hip
You can’t break the rules
You can’t break your balls
You can’t break your neck
You can’t break your back
But you can’t break my heart and have it
You can’t break my heart and have it
You can’t break my heart and have it
You can’t break my heart and have it
You can shoot the breeze
You can shoot your shit.
You can shoot it up
Ah, you can shoot to Berlin
You can’t break the rules
You can’t break your neck
You can’t break your balls
You could break your back
But you can’t break a heart and have it
You can’t break a heart and have it
You can’t break a heart and have it
You can’t break a heart and have it
You can’t break a heart and have it
You can’t break a heart and have it
You can’t break a heart and have it
You can’t break a heart and have it
You can’t break a heart and have it
You can’t break a heart and have it
You can’t break a heart and have it
(mountain man scream)
You can shoot the breeze
Or you can shoot your shit
You can’t shoot it up
Ah, you can shoot from the hip
You’re gonna lose your mind
Or you can lose your quick
You can lose your Louisiana
You can shoot to Berlin
You could break the rules
Or you can break your balls
You can break your back, break your back
You could break your neck
Ah, You can’t break a heart and have it
Break a heart and have it
You can’t break a heart and have it
You can’t break a heart and have it
You can’t break a heart and have it
You can’t break a heart and have it
You can’t break a heart and have it
No!
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Grotesque
= Cult of Ray =
France
777 Posts |
Posted - 03/27/2007 : 09:50:07
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(!!!!!!!!!!!!)
That's so original to make an album about a rocker that is not American or English.
Because they're so sytematically unknown outside of their country.
For example in Argentina we have this guy Luca Prodan (also an heroin addict) who made a post punk band called Sumo. A (death) superstar here, but totally unknown outside of argentina...
The youtube video of Heart is huge. The piano chords are incredible.
Was Holland Town already about him? If it is the case, we can expect a punk'n'roll version of Holland town in the upcoming shows! |
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anazgnos
= Cult of Ray =
USA
381 Posts |
Posted - 03/27/2007 : 10:32:14
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Oh, and that one song that has the siren...probabbly a Dutch siren, yeah?  |
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Ziggy
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
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Posted - 03/27/2007 : 10:33:13
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benji
> Teenager of the Year <
New Zealand
3420 Posts |
Posted - 03/27/2007 : 11:30:00
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Originally posted by PixieSteve
quote:
Originally posted by benji
sure, mp3's are good, but i want a proper version.
you didn't get the AIFF version?
well i've got them now.
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Llamadance
> Teenager of the Year <
United Kingdom
2543 Posts |
Posted - 03/27/2007 : 11:54:18
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Here's my lyrics for Captain Pasty. It's pretty difficult to hear some of the words, so critique away.
Captain Pasty
Captain Pasty
awwww huh huhuhu
I'm a captain in the flying Corp
I find the farmers a super bore
There was a swarm when I'm in the air
The universe it don't make me scared. Ow!
I'm a zipper in a metal mule
I'm a sip of rocket fuel
I see my friends take less and die
I'm guess I'm lucky to a be alive
Don't take your eyes off Captain Pasty
High in the skies of alabaster faces
Don't take your eyes off Captain Pasty
Even better I'm a mother's son
Love the rattle of a melting gun
We must attack when they flee and hiss
See my fans in the Bay of Bis
Don't take your eyes off Captain Pasty
High in the skies of alabaster faces
Don't take your eyes off Captain Pasty
Captain Pasty please report to the tarmac for very important assignments
God speed.
Don't take your eyes off Captain Pasty
High in the skies of alabaster faces
Don't take your eyes off Captain Pasty
Hang on baby I'm a bit a fast
Present future and the future past
Tells me something I don't wanna know
So I ........
Don't take your eyes off Captain Pasty
High in the skies of alabaster faces
Don't take your eyes off Captain Pasty
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
Ireland
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Posted - 03/27/2007 : 12:02:53
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You Can't Break A Heart is a Herman Brood cover? Wow!
Hehe, I feel kinda guilty posting about hearing it, but since every else has chirped up....it's a great combination of punky and mellow, and has grabbed me on first listen. And yeah, the lyrics are crazy and a bit rude sounding!! Favorites so far, as far as I can remember after a first listen, include Angels Come To Comfort You (isn't this about Herman Brood? love that choir!), Captain Patsy, and Heart (Violet's vocals are particularly good on this). |
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <
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3111 Posts |
Posted - 03/27/2007 : 12:07:16
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Originally posted by Carl
You Can't Break A Heart is a Herman Brood cover? Wow!
Hehe, I feel kinda guilty posting about hearing it, but since every else has chirped up....it's a great combination of punky and mellow, and has grabbed me on first listen. And yeah, the lyrics are crazy and a bit rude sounding!! Favorites so far, as far as I can remember after a first listen, include Angels Come To Comfort You (isn't this about Herman Brood? love that choir!), Captain Patsy, and Heart (Violet's vocals are particularly good on this).
Good point about Violet's vocals, Carl. I've focused quite a bit on the lyrics when I've listened to this album, but the music is amazing, too, and I really love how Violet's voice fits in. Her voice isn't all that different from Kim's, and it fits with FB's just as well. I think I like her best on the Grand Duchy song, but she's fantastic on "Bluefinger," too.
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
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Posted - 03/27/2007 : 12:19:55
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quote:
Originally posted by Grotesque
(!!!!!!!!!!!!)
That's so original to make an album about a rocker that is not American or English.
Because they're so sytematically unknown outside of their country.
For example in Argentina we have this guy Luca Prodan (also an heroin addict) who made a post punk band called Sumo. A (death) superstar here, but totally unknown outside of argentina...
The youtube video of Heart is huge. The piano chords are incredible.
Was Holland Town already about him? If it is the case, we can expect a punk'n'roll version of Holland town in the upcoming shows!
I think Holland Town was about Chet Baker. |
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wanderer1
- FB Fan -
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Posted - 03/27/2007 : 12:34:16
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Ok, here comes the newbie with the inevitable pixies comparison. You have been forewarned!
Seriously, this album is so refreshing and makes me not afraid of a new pixies album.
I am a longtime pixies fan and just recently got into the Frank Black solo stuff. In a three month period I digested his entire back catalog and was confused, intrigued, thrilled, & disappointed all at the same time. NOTHING sounded like the pixies to me, not even his voice. This was the initial let down but slowly I began to appreciate the greatness of Bullet, Massif Centrale, Speedy Marie, His kingly cave, etc.
This new album Bluefinger gives me the Pixies vibe more than the rest of the solo work (with the exception of the first album). He twists his voice for a split second in songs like Lolita, tight black rubber, You can’t break a heart, and I instantly went, “That’s the voice!, the Pixies voice!”. There is even a female background vocalist (his wife?) which makes this album scream “Aborted Pixies demo album!”.
Overall sound of the album is raw and under produced. Reminds me of some of the Frank Black and the Catholics albums.
So in a nutshell, 80% of the album sounds like a great mix of all the elements of Frank Black’s back catalog, with a 20% Pixies vibe. Still, I wish he would have made the album denser. Everything sounds like a one-man demo with a couple session players. He should have had Joey & Dave play on the tracks and then leaked it as a Pixies demo album. |
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benji
> Teenager of the Year <
New Zealand
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Posted - 03/27/2007 : 12:41:32
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i'm wondering whether anyone knows who the others in the band are?
jason and dan??
who are these guys?
blackVOCALGUITARHARMONICA
jasonDRUMS
danBASS
violetVOCAL
produced by mark
all i can say, thank god for polio! brian |
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6009 Posts |
Posted - 03/27/2007 : 13:46:26
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quote:
Originally posted by Grotesque
quote:
Originally posted by anazgnos
Oh, and that one song that has the siren...probabbly a Dutch siren, yeah?
OK master of english, I'll wait for you at the Jacques Tati corner.
sounds a bit like it, but I believe there are more tones to it.
It doesn't have the doppler-effect so it's hard to tell.
Sounds more like a police than an ambulance.
Herman Brood was pretty famous outside Holland too, btw.
Played a lot in Germany, Belgium and France and also in England and the USA. He didn't want to seek for more succes in America because the managers tried to change him there. Give him curls and stuff and they said he couldn't do drugs anymore. He said he would rather be a whole bread in the Netherlands than half of it in the States.
I think an album about Herman Brood gives him some indie-credit, of course more than a record about Salvador Dali or Tom Hanks.
the whole album is full of references to Brood's lifestyle:
Some people die when they get old, but I wanna die like a flash
(something like that)
If all my choices were poor, I made them...
...all of my choices were pure, I made them
Brood once said: I don't collect money, I collect beautiful moments
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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <
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4698 Posts |
Posted - 03/27/2007 : 13:49:10
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some people die then they start to get old, but i wanna die upon the threshold
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pixiestu
> Teenager of the Year <
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Posted - 03/27/2007 : 13:50:30
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I felt guilty posting about this album the other night since others might not have it so I deleted my post from the other thread, but since everyone else is now talking about it I must say it's really great.
After about 10 listens my favourites are 'Threshold Apprehenshion', 'Angels Come...' and 'Discotheque 36'. Weakest are YCBAHAHI and Your Mouth Into Mine.
Oh and I've never heard of Herman Brood. But whatever.
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Kirk
= Cult of Ray =
USA
633 Posts |
Posted - 03/27/2007 : 14:00:50
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Originally posted by benji
danBASS
I also want to know who this guy is. IMO, it's the most intriguing bass playing since the Pixies. |
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
3111 Posts |
Posted - 03/27/2007 : 14:17:25
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Originally posted by Kirk
quote:
Originally posted by benji
danBASS
I also want to know who this guy is. IMO, it's the most intriguing bass playing since the Pixies.
I think my favorite part of the entire album is the bass that carries the melody while the angels sing for the last couple minutes of "Angels Come to Comfort You." |
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Tiny Team Concerts
- FB Fan -
USA
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Posted - 03/27/2007 : 14:47:11
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I have not heard a single track from this album, and do not have a copy. (Anyone, anyone? Bueller?)
However, while some folks are wondering what this song is "about," based merely on the transcribed lyrics, it seems fairly obvious to me that this is a straightforward, confessional tip of the hat.
Much like "Angst."
Dig:
quote:
Originally posted by Llamadance
Your Mouth Into Mine
Hey! Where you Going?
Hahahaha
All my days i've been listening you pray
I've spent all my days driving, all my nights trying
You are so big but that don't make me so small
You rule the world but now I am standing tall
He's explaining how he discovered Herman's music and has become obsessed with it. The "praying" is a reference to the almost messianic delivery with which Brood was capable of imparting his lyrics, especially the ones which championed and deified the entire notion of Rock & Roll.
He's been driving around, blasting Brood in his car (or merely singing the songs to himself). He's saying that Brood's talent and impact is so major (big), but that in admitting that, Frank's not downplaying his own fame or legacy in the same R & R continuum ("that don't make me so small / You rule the world but now I am standing tall [you're gone, but I am here to carry on in your name/in your stead])
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I'm taking your mouth into mine
Take it in now, take it in now, now, now, now
Been waiting all my days for you now, been waiting all my
Got into your parts and I made you squeal
And I got into your heart it was no big deal
And I'm, taking your mouth into mine
Frank is alluding to the idea of him assimilating Brood's "voice" into his own. The mouth represents not only the approach that Brood could take in his own performances, but on some level, perhaps the lyrical "voice" that Frank is attempting to incorporate into the material on this record.
Brood's talent and presence speaks to him and inspires him as none has in ages ("been waiting all my days for you now").
He's learned several of Brood's songs ("got into your parts and I made you squeal"), and believes that on some level, by viewing Brood's artwork and listening to his music (and probably watching those docs that have been made about him) he could "(get) into (his) heart / it was no big deal".
quote:
Take it in now, take it in now, now, now, now
Been waiting all my days to get on that, been waiting all my
Taking your mouth into mine, suck it in now, suck it in now, now now, now
Been waiting all my days to get on that, waiting all my
I'm taking your mouth
Got into your parts and I got into your charts
and I'm taking your mouth,
I'm taking your mouth, I'm taking your mouth, taking your mouth
I'm taking your mouth, I'm taking your mouth
He's been absorbing the structure of Brood's songs (the "parts" and "charts"), and now he's helping to figuratively breathe new life into Brood's music and legacy by "taking his mouth" - read: appropriating his voice and outlook, and to literally breathe new life into the man's legend, by resucitating his career.
Once this theory leaks into the mainstream rock intelligentsia, as long as the album is viewed as even halfway decent, it will likely cause tons of interest in Brood from thousands of people who'd never, ever know of him otherwise.
It will likely lead to repackaging of his back catalog, and perhaps new anthologies, and maybe even a tribute album if one does not already exist.
Then again, maybe I'm way off base. It sure would help if I could hear the tracks which I certainly intend to purchase through official channels once they become commercially available...
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
3111 Posts |
Posted - 03/27/2007 : 14:53:57
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You absolutely nailed it, TTC. That idea never occurred to me, but it seems very very clear now. Damn, I love Frank Black. This album is the most fun I've had with a piece of music in ages.
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Grotesque
= Cult of Ray =
France
777 Posts |
Posted - 03/27/2007 : 15:22:31
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quote:
Originally posted by Kirk
quote:
Originally posted by benji
danBASS
I also want to know who this guy is. IMO, it's the most intriguing bass playing since the Pixies.
He hits very hard. Maybe a metal pick?
Songs like "Angels come..." and a few others could have been on FMRM for the country cabaret style, but they played it really hard, made it country punk: a bit like what Feldman and Block had done on tour with "I'm not dead..."
Oh, and there is a FB quote (about the same tour band) that fits perfectly to the song "Bluefinger": "we try to play the songs slower but harder at the same time." |
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