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that means soda
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Posted - 03/20/2007 :  23:30:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
can anyone else hear this similarity in the melody of frank's voice and the first 3 chords with this part of "the happening" where he sings I WAS DRIVIN DOIN NOTHING ON THE SHORES OF GREAT SALT LAKE. you can sing that over the begining of fort wayne. it's neat.


Montreal, October 1st 2002

Edited by - starmekitten on 03/23/2007 06:00:47

TRANSMARINE
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Posted - 03/21/2007 :  07:13:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I almost said "no"...then I thought about it, and said "yes".

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floop
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Mexico
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Posted - 03/21/2007 :  07:20:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
did you say it out loud?



jamming good with Weird and Gilly
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FranknWeezer
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USA
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Posted - 03/21/2007 :  08:06:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
No, but Fred Schneider from the B-52's makes a guest appearance on the line, "Riiiight ahhhhhn thhhhaa striiip!"
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TRANSMARINE
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USA
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Posted - 03/21/2007 :  12:04:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by floop

did you say it out loud?



jamming good with Weird and Gilly



I amlost did, but then I thought "no".

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Grotesque
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France
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Posted - 03/21/2007 :  13:59:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by that means soda

can anyone else hear this similarity in the melody of frank's voice and the first 3 chords with this part of "the happening" where he sings I WAS DRIVIN DOIN NOTHING ON THE SHORES OF GREAT SALT LAKE. you can sing that over the begining of fort wayne. it's neat.


Montreal, October 1st 2002



Yeah, and also I found a little something of "Out Of State" in the rythm of the lyrics and the melodies.
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coastline
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USA
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Posted - 03/21/2007 :  15:11:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Could a mod please fix the title of this thread. It's been driving me crazy.

So, we're discussing Grand Duchy again?



Grand Marnier and a pocketful of speed. We did it all day until we started to bleed.
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s_wrenn
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Ireland
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Posted - 03/21/2007 :  15:16:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Maybe he means "A boat for Wayne"


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that means soda
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Canada
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Posted - 03/22/2007 :  22:22:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by coastline

Could a mod please fix the title of this thread. It's been driving me crazy.

So, we're discussing Grand Duchy again?



Grand Marnier and a pocketful of speed. We did it all day until we started to bleed.




yeah lets give it back its T.

What, can't we discuss it? I don't know, I guess i'm behind everyone else on this, I just heard it this week.

Montreal, October 1st 2002
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Steak n Sabre
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Uzbekistan
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Posted - 03/23/2007 :  03:13:26  Show Profile  Visit Steak n Sabre's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Lyrics in question as I hear them...

Confused in the wheat --weed
From all the doom-sayin’
And all the egg-layin’


Once we were kissin’
Hair in the crowd -- And


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coastline
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USA
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Posted - 03/23/2007 :  03:24:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I still think it's wheat. They grow a lot of wheat in Indiana. And damn, I think you're right about "And in the crowd." Nice work, Steak n Sabre.

Ok, so here's where we're at on the lyrics, since we're finally talking about this great song again. Again, thanks to Denis for the French bits.

Once I was playin’
Down in Fort Wayne
Lost in the grain
You know what I’m sayin’?
But like I was sayin’
The kids were swayin’
To a rock and roll beat
Confused in the wheat
From all the doom-sayin’
And all the egg-layin’

La la la la
La la la la
La la la la
La la la la
La la la la
La la la la
La la la la
La la la la
La la la la
La la la la
La la la la

Once we were kissin’
And in the crowd
They cheered so loud
They’d come to listen
They thought we’d gone missin’

I can’t decide
Do I confide
These things
In my heart, in my heart, in my heart

Vous vous rappelez
Dans la vie de ???
Que nous avons
Embrasse tout la nuit
Il etait si grand
Extasy pure
Je ne l'oublierai
Un moment si parfait
Vous etes celui
Le seul pour moi *

Once I was playin’
Down in Fort Wayne
Lost in the grain
You know what I’m sayin’?
But like I was sayin’
The kids were swayin’
To a rock and roll beat
Confused in the wheat
From all the doom-sayin’
And all the egg-layin’

My hands are tied
I must confide
These things
In my heart, in my heart, in my heart

* Translation of the French part:
Do you remember
In ???
That we kissed all night long
It was so big
Pure extasy
I'll never forget
Such a perfect moment
You're that one
The only one for me



Grand Marnier and a pocketful of speed. We did it all day until we started to bleed.
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Steak n Sabre
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Uzbekistan
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Posted - 03/23/2007 :  04:27:15  Show Profile  Visit Steak n Sabre's Homepage  Reply with Quote
:P
True enough, Sounds like wheat in one verse, and weeds in the other.... Either way makes sense to me


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kfs
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USA
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Posted - 03/23/2007 :  04:57:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by coastline
And damn, I think you're right about "And in the crowd." Nice work, Steak n Sabre.



I agree. Thanks for figuring that out. It was driving me crazy!!
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windupbird
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Posted - 03/23/2007 :  10:32:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Could the 2nd line in french ('dans la vie..?") be "dans la ville de...(something)", ie: in the city of...(something)? Just a thought.
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Daisy Girl
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Posted - 03/23/2007 :  17:08:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by coastline

I still think it's wheat. They grow a lot of wheat in Indiana. And damn, I think you're right about "And in the crowd." Nice work, Steak n Sabre.

Ok, so here's where we're at on the lyrics, since we're finally talking about this great song again. Again, thanks to Denis for the French bits.

Once I was playin’
Down in Fort Wayne
Lost in the grain
You know what I’m sayin’?
But like I was sayin’
The kids were swayin’
To a rock and roll beat
Confused in the wheat
From all the doom-sayin’
And all the egg-layin’

La la la la
La la la la
La la la la
La la la la
La la la la
La la la la
La la la la
La la la la
La la la la
La la la la
La la la la

Once we were kissin’
And in the crowd
They cheered so loud
They’d come to listen
They thought we’d gone missin’

I can’t decide
Do I confide
These things
In my heart, in my heart, in my heart

Vous vous rappelez
Dans la vie de ???
Que nous avons
Embrasse tout la nuit
Il etait si grand
Extasy pure
Je ne l'oublierai
Un moment si parfait
Vous etes celui
Le seul pour moi *

Once I was playin’
Down in Fort Wayne
Lost in the grain
You know what I’m sayin’?
But like I was sayin’
The kids were swayin’
To a rock and roll beat
Confused in the wheat
From all the doom-sayin’
And all the egg-layin’

My hands are tied
I must confide
These things
In my heart, in my heart, in my heart

* Translation of the French part:
Do you remember
In ???
That we kissed all night long
It was so big
Pure extasy
I'll never forget
Such a perfect moment
You're that one
The only one for me



Grand Marnier and a pocketful of speed. We did it all day until we started to bleed.





:) Indiana (unfortuately speaking from experience) actually is known for corn, not wheat. but you're right, the lyric is wheat.

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that means soda
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Posted - 03/23/2007 :  23:02:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by windupbird

Could the 2nd line in french ('dans la vie..?") be "dans la ville de...(something)", ie: in the city of...(something)? Just a thought.



yeah I was gonna say the exact same thing. That's what I hear and it makes alot more sense.

Montreal, October 1st 2002
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coastline
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USA
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Posted - 03/24/2007 :  15:11:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Daisy Girl
:) Indiana (unfortuately speaking from experience) actually is known for corn, not wheat. but you're right, the lyric is wheat.

bluefinger

I think I read on the wiki that wheat is Indiana's No. 3 crop. But you're right that I'm right about the lyric.



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darwin
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Posted - 03/24/2007 :  15:31:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Is #2 basketball players?
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stymie
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Posted - 03/24/2007 :  16:30:26  Show Profile  Visit stymie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I don't get it. I thought this was a joke? I wanna hear it! I live in Indiana and there is a fort wayne. Help me please?
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Daisy Girl
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Posted - 03/28/2007 :  19:59:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by coastline

quote:
Originally posted by Daisy Girl
:) Indiana (unfortuately speaking from experience) actually is known for corn, not wheat. but you're right, the lyric is wheat.

bluefinger

I think I read on the wiki that wheat is Indiana's No. 3 crop. But you're right that I'm right about the lyric.



Grand Marnier and a pocketful of speed. We did it all day until we started to bleed.




really?? that's interesting... I have never seen any wheat there just corn and soybeans...who would have guessed...

bluefinger
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langdonboom
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USA
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Posted - 04/02/2007 :  21:00:36  Show Profile  Click to see langdonboom's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I guess I'm a little late to the party but this song is so damn excellent, it makes me cry. I have been listening to it almost non-stop on repeat over and over again. Great pretty melody, bells, female vocals, and excellently placed LOUD DISTORTED GUITAR! If this was a song written for a possible Pixies album then Kim Deal is a dummy! (if indeed she's the one who was worried about tarnishing their legacy). Obviously this man can still write in this idiom if he so chooses. BEAUTIFUL and I WANT MORE!!
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Steak n Sabre
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Uzbekistan
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Posted - 04/03/2007 :  22:50:17  Show Profile  Visit Steak n Sabre's Homepage  Reply with Quote
If David Fricke wrote the following, it would get some attention 'eh??: Brian Wilson + Stereolab + Frank Black = Grand Duchy.



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frankblackphx
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Posted - 04/04/2007 :  12:32:08  Show Profile  Visit frankblackphx's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I think that Fort Wayne has just a beautiful melody. I especially love the part when Frank sings really high to double up the verses. Amazing.

Do we know anything else about the Grand Duchy project besides Fort Wayne? Is it going to be a full album worth of material?

Dan

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whitefrancis
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Posted - 04/05/2007 :  10:18:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
from other thread:
"i hear what your saying! i think you may be on to something. but i need to see the lyrics printed. anyone got them?

this song is FANTASTIC! the first thing i thought was fort wayne recording studios where the pixies recorded...but i was mistaken..it is fort apache." -fumanbru

and who starred in the movie fort apache? john WAYNE. a lot easier to rhyme with than apache.

it's sooooooooo about the pixies imo.
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Luis Bunuel
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Posted - 04/05/2007 :  10:20:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
where can i hear it?
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the acorahs
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Posted - 04/05/2007 :  11:45:11  Show Profile  Visit the acorahs's Homepage  Click to see the acorahs's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I like it, but it just isn't as great as I expected, and if it were on Bluefinger it would be one of the weaker tracks. It is one of the few Frank songs which I think could do with a bit a of Pixies magic.

Still it is a nice song and everything, and I don't want to be too critical of it.

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whitefrancis
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Posted - 04/05/2007 :  13:44:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
wow, i like it better than any bluefinger track. and i like bluefinger.
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coastline
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USA
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Posted - 04/05/2007 :  14:42:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Luis Bunuel

where can i hear it?

It hasn't been released, but forum users have managed to get their hands on a copy. Word to the wise: Hit up somebody by e-mail; don't go a-begging on this forum. A certain over-worked mod seems close to opening up a global can of whoop-ass on all of us.


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speedy_m
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Posted - 04/05/2007 :  15:28:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by coastline

quote:
Originally posted by Luis Bunuel

where can i hear it?

A certain over-worked mod seems close to opening up a global can of whoop-ass on all of us.


Please pardon me, for these my wrongs.



Ha...


maybe I'll kick it
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fbc
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 04/07/2007 :  07:06:46  Show Profile  Visit fbc's Homepage  Reply with Quote
while i'm busy overdosing on blauwe vinger this song covers me like a security blanket. i need to hear the album this track comes from.

beautiful stuff. even the dentists drill in the background.
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coastline
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USA
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Posted - 04/07/2007 :  08:41:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm with fbc on that. "Bluefinger" is a real drug, and I've been addicted to it since my first hit, but when I reach the threshold and can't take any more, I put on "Fort Wayne" and mellow out. To be honest, I like it more than any song on "Bluefinger." And I do wonder about the rest of the album. I worry that it can't possibly live up to this first song.


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Posted - 04/07/2007 :  09:05:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I like the reprise of the first verse, after Violet has sung her part.
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fumanbru
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Canada
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Posted - 04/09/2007 :  18:55:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by whitefrancis

from other thread:
"i hear what your saying! i think you may be on to something. but i need to see the lyrics printed. anyone got them?

this song is FANTASTIC! the first thing i thought was fort wayne recording studios where the pixies recorded...but i was mistaken..it is fort apache." -fumanbru

and who starred in the movie fort apache? john WAYNE. a lot easier to rhyme with than apache.

it's sooooooooo about the pixies imo.



it may be a crackpot theory but i really like that idea.

and this song is fantastic. violet's background vocals and french sound very lovely.


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billgoodman
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Posted - 04/10/2007 :  01:04:01  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
wow, apache...wayne
great!

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yingguoguizi
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China
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Posted - 04/11/2007 :  22:54:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
An amazing song. The antithesis of the songs on Bluefinger. I like bluefinger, but this just makes me shiver- in a good way, that is.
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kfs
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USA
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Posted - 05/15/2007 :  10:45:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've been thinking about this song. Has anyone else wondered about the 'egg-layin' part?
I believe it refers to the area's large amount of egg production. There is a town called Mentone, Indiana which is the self-proclaimed "Egg Basket of the Midwest." I don't know how close Mentone is to Fort Wayne but, well, close enough! Here's a link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mentone,_Indiana

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