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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
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 Posted - 08/21/2004 : 09:17:34
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Originally posted by Monsieur
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I don't like emotionnaly unstable girls either, what I meant by fragility was a way some girls "wear" their emotions.
I will show you fear in a handful of dust
Not to betray my gender or anything but if there's one thing I can't stand, one thing I cannot stand (to quote Young Denizen of the Citizens Band) it's how far too many women get so easily emotional and freaky. That is the number one reason I can think for being glad I was not born a straight male. Way too many female friends of mine have turned off their boyfriends by being clingy and whiny and way too emotional.
Out of curiosity, what do you do that's so demanding, M.? I was a newspaper editor which entailed swimming with sharks from dawn till dusk, believe you me.
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jediroller
* Dog in the Sand *
France
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Posted - 08/21/2004 : 09:21:34
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It's actually quite safe, it's a collection of links to weird fetish sites, with comments such as "A site dedicated to men with hairy backs. Be sure to check out the picture gallery if you're looking for a reason to gouge out your own eyes".
Some really bizarre stuff in there, too.
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Monsieur
* Dog in the Sand *
France
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Posted - 08/21/2004 : 09:22:47
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I'm in Murders and Executions, 100 hours a week.
Girls often display their emotions in order to achieve some very down-to-earth goals. Nothing fragile about that.
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
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Posted - 08/21/2004 : 09:26:05
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Originally posted by Monsieur
I'm in Murders and Executions, 100 hours a week.
Girls often display their emotions in order to achieve some very down-to-earth goals. Nothing fragile about that.
I will show you fear in a handful of dust
Though your two comments are witty they are cryptic, too. I don't understand either of them. What do you mean by down-to-earth goals? Murders and Executions....are you an attorney? Just wonderin'...
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Monsieur
* Dog in the Sand *
France
1688 Posts |
Posted - 08/21/2004 : 09:31:29
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 It was a quote from American Psycho. I am a little paranoid so I won't talk about my job anymore (the reason why I changed my nick on the forum).
My second sentence was not so cryptic, it means that girls often start whining and pretending they're emotional when they want to obtain something from someone.
I will show you fear in a handful of dust |
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El Barto
= Song DB Master =
USA
4020 Posts |
Posted - 08/21/2004 : 09:46:42
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Thanks for the positive feedback on my ode to breasts :) So, it helps to be forward (but not that forward?). I'm a chickenshit when it comes to talking to women...I have to get some balls up. I've gotta start living, especially in a college town. I thought of using the line "Hi, I just had to come over and tell you that I think you're absolutely gorgeous/beautiful/cute as hell."
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Monsieur
* Dog in the Sand *
France
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Posted - 08/21/2004 : 09:51:13
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What do you want the girl to answer? You have to suck her into a conversation.
I will show you fear in a handful of dust |
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El Barto
= Song DB Master =
USA
4020 Posts |
Posted - 08/21/2004 : 09:52:32
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Shit...then give me some tips! I have no idea how to talk to women.
I guess I just wasn't made for these times. |
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
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Posted - 08/21/2004 : 10:07:27
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Monsieur just gave you and important tip, ElBarto! Think of it as you would chess. What would be a woman's logical response to your sentence? Don't make a dead-end comment; give her an opportunity to say something.
Speaking only for myself ... here goes: somewhere between insecure (no girl likes a wimpy guy) and cocky (boastful guys have a high ick factor) is a land called "self-confident but not obnoxious." Be yourself minus whatever insecurities you may have.
In case the above cliches don't make sense to you try this: Just tell them you like Frank. That'll get them interested.
Seriously, ditch any low self-esteem you may harbor and just have fun. You make intelligent, funny comments on the forum, you have great taste in music, you look cute in your foto. Just go for it.
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Edited by - kathryn on 08/21/2004 10:10:56 |
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
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Posted - 08/21/2004 : 10:16:13
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Originally posted by kathryn
In case the above cliches don't make sense to you try this: Just tell them you like Frank. That'll get them interested.
If nothing else, you'll attract a better class of woman.
Kind regards,
Dr. Simon
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Posted - 08/21/2004 : 19:02:01
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Heh the dating game, there are no rules, girls think one way, boys think entirely another! Women we look for signs in everything, and oft times they aren't there and come across as totally emotional, boys ignore even the most obvious signs and sometimes come across as emotionally retarted and mostly it isn't true in either case it's just looking at the same things from different sides of the coin. When it works it's wonderfull when it goes wrong it's horrendous.
Relationship left me weary, tired of trying to be what someone else expected me to be, and could never achieve because they could never see me as anything other than what I once was. Sigh. Still breaks my heart to think about it.
And I struggle with the "type" before I met 'him' I always went for androgenous indie boys, and he wasn't that, big manly lovley and he set my type for a while, but even when I first met him there wasn't any sudden fluttering of the heart, that happend after our first long conversation (about 10 hours long...) we lived together and the more I got to know him the more I loved him and the more attractive I found him untill he was the sexiest man alive as far as I was concerned, I guess for me it's the person I fall for rather than the shell, not to say I don't appreciate aesthetics but a beautiful man devoid of any spark would leave me cold.
 I don't mean to sound bitter, cold, or cruel, but I am, so that's how it comes out.
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ramona
"FB Quote Mistress"
USA
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Posted - 08/21/2004 : 19:43:13
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That's nice, Tre. I think that sometimes when you have an instant spark with someone, it can often fizzle out. I think a slow gradual burn is the best.
Jim, as for how to talk to girls, hell if I know. But I definetly think approaching someone without pick up lines and just being honest, "Hi. I'm *insert name here*", etc. works the best. We are all just people! The way people put on their Going Out Persona drives me crazy. Just be yourself (at least somewhat, I don't want to see ALL your flaws right away) and if the girl is worthy, then she will respond to that. I think it gets better as you get older too, b/c as we grow up we all get more comfortable with ourselves. At least, I hope we all do.
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You`re where you want to be, I`m where I want to be
Caught up chasing everything I`ve ever wanted
I replace you easily, replace pathetically,
I flirt with any flighty thing that falls my way.
But how I needed you, when I needed you.
Let`s not forget we are so strong, so bloody strong.
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Jason
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 08/21/2004 : 20:36:32
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The most concise advice I can give to Jim:
Never be desperate. They can smell it on you and it's not attractive. Don't ever feel like you have to meet anyone or feel like there's something wrong with you if you don't meet someone. Walk into a room like you don't care. Whatever your situation is, be secure in it. Avoid making any decision that compromises your DIGNITY.
NOT SO CONCISE ADVICE...
Here's one of my favorite things to when flirting with a girl:
Flirt, cultivate some sexual tension, and then DROP IT. Ignore her. And then watch what happens.
You have to feel this out. I'm not saying it works 100% of the time. Good judgement and good timing is involved. Be sure she's feeling and enjoying the sexual tension. It may take practice. But when it works, it's better than ice cream.
Attractive girls are used to being approached and used to never having to angle for our attention. When you're harder to figure out than the rest, you'll stand out from the pack and you'll have mystery. Sometimes she'll be drawn to you all the more because of this. Women like a challenge, especially when they're not used to it.
A few years ago, I had a huge crush on a beautiful girl I saw regularly. She was dating someone and either way, while I was comfortable with flirting, I was still naive about how to close the deal. But I still flirted, in a tastefully forward and very goofy way. And she liked me. She didn't mind the attention and I got a great belly laugh out of her nearly everytime we talked. She had fun when I was around.
But she never initiated anything. I always said hello first and the entire dynamic between us was me doing my monkeyboy act while she laughed and smiled in approval. She DID smile complusively when she saw me, but she rarely said much to me beyond reacting to some silly thing I said to her. I acted, she reacted. I was just another guy out of the 20 who probably hit on her daily.
So I decided to stop. Not because of any strategy I had in mind, but because I was bored with it.
About a week passed where we barely acknowledged each other at all.
And then suddenly she began jumping through hoops to get me to notice her again. She started approaching me. Where previously she was very reserved around me, she started trying to elbow her way into conversations I was having with others.
And when I'd throw her a bone and start hinting at the way it used to be between us, it only turned her into more of a puppy dog.
Eventually she and I ended up dating.
It was the coolest thing. I learned a lot from that.
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SpudBoy
= Cult of Ray =
Equatorial Guinea
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Posted - 08/21/2004 : 21:42:40
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As far as I can tell, this tactic only works in high school (or with people stuck there mentally), and everyone writes you off once they figure out you are manipulative. A mature woman would have your ass for playing like that. If it does work you get a) a mental child or b) an attention whore or c) both. Jim, just talk to them. They are people, as ramona said. Go hang out at a place you like to hang out in and talk to the women who also go there. Go into it with no expectations - it takes longer but is far more worthwhile. Might even make some more friends as a side benefit.
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GypsyDeath
Zapped Profile
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Posted - 08/22/2004 : 04:00:33
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Can you believe a topic with such a title went four pages without me posting? crazy. But never fear, im here now.
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Originally posted by Cult_Of_Frank
Really? That's interesting.
I mean, I never want to be without (access to) breasts either (yet here I am), but I always get the impression that women are annoyed by them more than anything. Complaining about too big, too small, wearing a bra, etc, etc
Personally, I'm a big fan...
Regarding all this tit comlaining, Id just like to say I LOVE MY TITS. I think they are great. There not too big not too small, defying gravity and perfectly firm. I love them. And the power breasts have over men is quite funny to see.
I drink and smoke
Until I choke
Until I'm broke
Cos' I want too
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GypsyDeath
Zapped Profile
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Posted - 08/22/2004 : 04:18:27
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Also, on the talking to women thing..,.My advice is go to gigs or the comedy club place where you do your act would be perfect for you really, and just spark up a conversation about the act on. Simple. Its middle ground, that obviously if they are there they enjoy(youd hope..) and so you get a rough idea of their likes/dislikes as well.
Also, carrying a lighter i find helps...
I drink and smoke
Until I choke
Until I'm broke
Cos' I want too
If We Sleep Together, Will You Like Me Better? |
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pfeffa
= Cult of Ray =
Aruba
367 Posts |
Posted - 08/22/2004 : 06:51:35
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| I painted my toes bright red. I don't think I'd like anyone to touch them, though. I'm more of a neck-vert. |
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Monsieur
* Dog in the Sand *
France
1688 Posts |
Posted - 08/22/2004 : 07:01:08
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I am seriously considering painting my toes.
Which color should I chose?
I will show you fear in a handful of dust |
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pfeffa
= Cult of Ray =
Aruba
367 Posts |
Posted - 08/22/2004 : 07:21:59
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
15320 Posts |
Posted - 08/22/2004 : 08:06:40
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Don't do it, Monsieur! Toe polish looks less than attractive on men. Just ask yourself, would Frank paint his toenails?
I still believe in the excellent joy of the Frank |
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Newo
~ Abstract Brain ~
Spain
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Posted - 08/22/2004 : 08:57:04
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I had mine silveryblue for a summer 8 years ago. It matched, uh, the bruises I got from the other schoolkids.
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GypsyDeath
Zapped Profile
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Posted - 08/22/2004 : 10:11:50
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I dont get nail polish. I just dont get it. I guess im nto girly enough for that sort of stuff. Nail varnish and perfume - its beyond me.
I drink and smoke
Until I choke
Until I'm broke
Cos' I want too
If We Sleep Together, Will You Like Me Better? |
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Posted - 08/22/2004 : 10:46:21
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My Dad's Girlfriend paints his toenails, it works for him.
I paint my toenails, it has to be done, green works well I find. And I didn't do perfume until my gentleman caller bought me some, mmm Gautier, the sexiest scent in the world, haven't bought any for ages now but it is a damned sexy perfume..
I don't mean to sound bitter, cold, or cruel, but I am, so that's how it comes out.
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
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Posted - 08/22/2004 : 11:14:09
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I have no time whatsover, yet I make sure to put on perfume, eyeliner and nail polish. And to shave.
I don't think that makes me girlie though, does it? I mean it's black nail polish and Chrissie Hynde eyes.
Just a little perfume, though.
The only thing grosser than wearing too much perfume is being near a guy who went overboard on the aftershave or cologne.
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Posted - 08/22/2004 : 11:18:58
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oh ho no, kohl is a girls best friend
If I wake up in time I bother, if I don't, I don't. I am very bad at getting up in the morning
I don't mean to sound bitter, cold, or cruel, but I am, so that's how it comes out.
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
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Posted - 08/22/2004 : 11:23:00
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Originally posted by Tre
kohl is a girls best friend
Sister!!!!!!
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pfeffa
= Cult of Ray =
Aruba
367 Posts |
Posted - 08/22/2004 : 12:40:07
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Jason
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 08/22/2004 : 12:58:19
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Um, excuse me, but this thread is supposed to be about BREASTS, not nail polish (please ignore that this thread was originally about toes). Please resume discussing your breasts and how big they are.
And no, this has nothing to do with my own prurient interests and the fact that I'm very horny right now. We live in troubled times. What we need is more order and dependability and less chaos.
Do it for the planet.
Discuss your globes for the globe.
As for the flirt-then-ignore tactic, I do agree that it's all a game (and a passive-aggressive one), but some of us find games fun. Especially if you're not actively looking for a serious girl and just want to play around (frequently my feeling).
Maybe the real lesson learned is that the less you seem like someone a woman can walk all over, the more attractive you might be. |
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
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Posted - 08/22/2004 : 13:05:35
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Originally posted by Jason
Um, excuse me, but this thread is supposed to be about BREASTS, not nail polish (please ignore that this thread was originally about toes). Please resume discussing your breasts and how big they are.
And no, this has nothing to do with my own prurient interests and the fact that I'm very horny right now. We live in troubled times. What we need is more order and dependability and less chaos.
Do it for the planet.
Discuss your globes for the globe.
As for the flirt-then-ignore tactic, I do agree that it's all a game (and a passive-aggressive one), but some of us find games fun. Especially if you're not actively looking for a serious girl and just want to play around (frequently my feeling).
Maybe the real lesson learned is that the less you seem like someone a woman can walk all over, the more attractive you might be.
What a rousing post, Jason. Though it is motivational, our thread has come full circle -- from toes to toe nail polish.
But you are correct when you say "the less you seem like someone a woman can walk all over, the more attractive you might be."
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pfeffa
= Cult of Ray =
Aruba
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Posted - 08/22/2004 : 13:27:09
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
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Posted - 08/22/2004 : 13:56:33
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Heh the dating game, there are no rules, girls think one way, boys think entirely another!
It's like men are from Mars, and women are from Venus!
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boys ignore even the most obvious signs
I know I do that. Especially with stop signs. No wonder I get into so many wrecks.
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And I struggle with the "type" before I met 'him' I always went for androgenous indie boys
Androgynous indie boys are from the third moon of Jupiter.
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And the power breasts have over men is quite funny to see.
Almost as much as video games!
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I am seriously considering painting my toes.
Which color should I chose?
Hmm, ignoring proper verb tense for the sake of a rhyme? A bold move, but it works.
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Just ask yourself, would Frank paint his toenails?
Maybe. Has anyone ever actually seen his toes?
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Posted - 08/22/2004 : 15:25:51
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Originally posted by VoVat
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And I struggle with the "type" before I met 'him' I always went for androgenous indie boys
Androgynous indie boys are from the third moon of Jupiter.
Cattle in Korea / They can really moo.
I know, I used to hang out there but the eostrogen and the hair spray fumes made me sick after a while
I don't mean to sound bitter, cold, or cruel, but I am, so that's how it comes out.
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
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Posted - 08/26/2004 : 07:58:22
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<<(Netherlands, Reuters) - Unsolicited toe-licking would be banned in the Netherlands under a law sought by the Dutch Labor party after police were unable to prosecute a would-be Casanova with a taste for female toes because he had committed no crime. A police spokesman said a man had been detained after women sunning themselves in Rotterdam's parks and beaches claimed he had snuck up on them and begun to lick their toes. "The officers had to let him go. Licking a stranger's toes is rather unusual but there is really nothing criminal about it," the spokesman said. Dutch press reports said the man had been licking the toes of strangers for about three years but was only recently caught by police. Peter van Heemst, a member of parliament, asked Justice Minister Piet Hein Donner to explain why Dutch laws forbid littering but not uninvited toe-licking. Van Heemst demanded an amendment prohibiting it. "It is a violation of one's privacy and one's physical integrity," he told a local news agency.>>
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apl4eris
~ Abstract Brain ~
USA
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Posted - 08/26/2004 : 08:48:48
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Also the possibility of transmission of diseases. I wonder how people, especially the effected women, could fail to think of that. That would really get to me, maybe more than the psychological and physical invasion.
They say that many times this kind of behavior escalates. I wonder what these guys will go for next? hehe
On a similar note, in Chicago a few years ago there was a guy that kept getting chased out of groceries for squeezing the bread.
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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Canada
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Posted - 08/26/2004 : 09:51:11
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Originally posted by GypsyDeath
I dont get nail polish. I just dont get it. I guess im nto girly enough for that sort of stuff. Nail varnish and perfume - its beyond me.
You're girly enough to wear really low cut tops...
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