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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
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 Posted - 04/23/2004 : 15:20:46
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animals eating animals argument: most of the animals people eat in the west are nonviolent, vegetarian animals
But most other carnivorous and omnivorous animals ALSO eat nonviolent, vegetarian animals. If someone is in favor of equal rights for animals, doesn't that also mean equal responsibilities? If a human killing a sheep is evil, is it the same for a wolf killing a sheep?
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
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Posted - 04/23/2004 : 15:31:04
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Dave, I find it interesting that you're an advocate of spaying/neutering (i.e. removing an animal's genitals). I'm not saying I disagree, just that I wouldn't expect you to be on that side of the fence.
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NimrodsSon
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
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Posted - 04/23/2004 : 15:38:48
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Originally posted by Dave Noisy
Thanks Jop. =)
Jim - wanted to stick to animals used for food for this topic.. But no, i don't believe in 'pets'. I'm a strong advocate of spaying and neutering, and find breeders to be quite repulsive.
And assholes who spend $2000 on a puppy while others are being killed down the street at the shelter...
I have no problems with people having companion animals per se, it's definitely the best option for these critters, but one day i hope that keeping other animals is no longer done.
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You said earlier that you believe animals should be able to live their lives without the interference of humans. If you believe this, why do you feel it's okay for humans to spay and neuter dogs and cats? (I'm not trying to argue, just wondering)
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
9168 Posts |
Posted - 04/23/2004 : 16:17:23
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Because Bob Barker says so! <g>
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Dave Noisy
Minister of Chaos
Canada
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Posted - 04/23/2004 : 16:22:17
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Vovat - i'm not for 'equal rights'. That's patently ridiculous. Just like a woman doesn't have a right to have a vasectomy, we don't need to protect non-human animals from non-human animals.
Yeah, the spay and neuter thing is one of the few area's i'll admit a duality in my opinion.
I really don't think we should do that.
But, it results in a mich higher chance of cancer for these animals, and they're also free to reproduce, which is a worse problem, so it's really a lesser of two evils.
But to me, the idea of keeping an animal in your house and feeding him/her processed food from a can is already totally bizarre, so this is just the icing on the cake.
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darkoutsider
= Cult of Ray =
USA
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Posted - 04/23/2004 : 18:00:37
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I do support the rights of animals. I'm against the abuse, mistreatment, and slaughter of helpless animals. But man, the PETA people piss me off. They get bent over ass first over any little fucking thing. They get all pissy over fake animals! A digital dog gets run gets hurt. Oh it might give people the impression that if hurting a fake animal is okay, then hurting the real thing is okay too. Shut the fuck up. They get as irritating as the Truth kids, anti-tabacco fuckers. But that's a completely different topic. If I take them on both at once I'll get an ulcer.
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realmeanmotorscutor
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
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Posted - 04/23/2004 : 18:29:50
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Originally posted by Dave Noisy
But to me, the idea of keeping an animal in your house and feeding him/her processed food from a can is already totally bizarre, so this is just the icing on the cake.
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HA! Yeah, I know what you mean. Sometimes I look at my cats roaming hither and thither and think, "I'm living among beasts. This is seriously strange." But we're best friends and it becomes not strange at all.
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