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Jontiven
= Cult of Ray =

USA
347 Posts

Posted - 05/27/2004 :  05:38:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You will never guess the mystery singer.
But I will give a hint. Several, actually.
She is a woman of color under thirty. She has been on the covers of many magazines, but will most likely be unfamiliar to all of you. She is not of the pop idiom.
My telling you this is just to eliminate random guessing. I find it highly unlikely that anyone will be able to figure out who it is, and even when she is revealed, most of you will say "Who?" But she sings beautifully and has won many awards and has a sizeable audience of her own that rarely intersects with the FB audience.
I will be doing the recording in mid-July and will reveal all when it's done.
best,
JT
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peter radiator
= Cult of Ray =

USA
653 Posts

Posted - 05/27/2004 :  06:15:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jontiven

Speaking for myself, no. For me, the version to beat is Dan Penn's, live, anytime, to any track, guitar, or box.


Jon,
So nice to get a chance to speak with you. I've been a fan since Bach's Bottom, and I really loved the Otis Blackwell tribute – especially the Joe Louis Walker and Tom Verlaine tracks.

As far as "Dark End" goes, I caght Elvis Costello and Steve Neive using it as the final encore at The Ryman back in February, and he did his usual (of late) "using the acoustics of the room and forgoing the PA" bit with it. There were a bunch of great Nashvegas vocalists in the audience who chimed in with the high harmonies and it was something of a magical moment.

As for sterling covers of that tune, I have an intense and unreleased live board tape of Richard & Linda Thompson doing it as just a duo with acoustic guitar from the late 1970s that is quite haunting. I don't know if you or Dan ever heard it, but if you'd like me to send you the MP3, Private Message me and I'll be happy to forward it to you.

Take care, and best of luck with the new LP, regardless of title.


~ Peter Radiator

"Real music is out there and real people are making it." ~ Webb Wilder
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Frog in the Sand
-+ Le premiere frog +-

France
2715 Posts

Posted - 05/27/2004 :  07:31:56  Show Profile  Visit Frog in the Sand's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jontiven

You will never guess the mystery singer.
But I will give a hint. Several, actually.
She is a woman of color under thirty. She has been on the covers of many magazines, but will most likely be unfamiliar to all of you. She is not of the pop idiom.
My telling you this is just to eliminate random guessing. I find it highly unlikely that anyone will be able to figure out who it is, and even when she is revealed, most of you will say "Who?" But she sings beautifully and has won many awards and has a sizeable audience of her own that rarely intersects with the FB audience.
I will be doing the recording in mid-July and will reveal all when it's done.
best,
JT



Alicia Keys?
Ashanti?
India Arie?...

or maybe Aretha Franklin? Tina Turner? Billie Holliday? Kim Deal? :)


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Atheist4Catholics
= Cult of Ray =

USA
925 Posts

Posted - 05/27/2004 :  10:23:16  Show Profile  Visit Atheist4Catholics's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Billie Holliday would definitely be a surprise being dead and all.

I think it's Naomi Campbell.


"Join the Cult of Frank / or The Clops gets it!"
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apl4eris
~ Abstract Brain ~

USA
4800 Posts

Posted - 05/27/2004 :  13:56:32  Show Profile  Visit apl4eris's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Skin from Skunk Anansi?


If the only tool you have is an elbow macaroni,
all your problems look like Schroedinger's cat.
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
9168 Posts

Posted - 05/27/2004 :  14:14:16  Show Profile  Visit VoVat's Homepage  Click to see VoVat's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
or maybe Aretha Franklin? Tina Turner? Billie Holliday? Kim Deal? :)


They're under 30?



Cattle in Korea / They can really moo.
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ramona
"FB Quote Mistress"

USA
3988 Posts

Posted - 05/27/2004 :  15:10:18  Show Profile  Visit ramona's Homepage  Reply with Quote
What is the womans name...Jill Stuart? I think that is it. She's the only person I can think of and I doubt she is under 30. Hmmm. I love a good mystery!

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alan dean his problems
- FB Fan -

8 Posts

Posted - 06/08/2004 :  10:09:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I wonder if Joe Meek's classic UFO song, possibly the first of its kind and genre, would ever be covered by Frank? I am speaking of course about Skymen (1960). Geoff Goddard being the writer and singer, one of Meek's strangest songs indeed.

Also, wouldn't Peter Laughner be up for grabs here too? I can easily see and would love to hear Frank's version of any of his songs. Maybe David Thomas and Frank as a duo covering Laughner.

One last note, if the models for Tati's Playtime, the city buildings used in the street shots, if these are still around I think they ought to be used in a video or something. Originally these models stood quite high, ten to twelve feet I believe.
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Ten Percenter
- FB Enquirer -

United Kingdom
1733 Posts

Posted - 06/25/2004 :  02:45:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Where is Mr Tiven? Are you still working on the "Honeycomb" overdubs, Jon? Any more news - did you manage to secure the services of the mystery vocalist (Ms Copeland)?

"Fried food, cigarettes, no exercise, chest pain..." (Excerpt from the Angina Monologues)

Edited by - Ten Percenter on 06/25/2004 02:49:29
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Mac E. Doobage
= Cult of Ray =

503 Posts

Posted - 06/27/2004 :  08:05:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
[quote]Originally posted by Jontiven

You will never guess the mystery singer.
But I will give a hint. Several, actually.
She is a woman of color under thirty. She has been on the covers of many magazines, but will most likely be unfamiliar to all of you. She is not of the pop idiom.
My telling you this is just to eliminate random guessing. I find it highly unlikely that anyone will be able to figure out who it is, and even when she is revealed, most of you will say "Who?" But she sings beautifully and has won many awards and has a sizeable audience of her own that rarely intersects with the FB audience.
I will be doing the recording in mid-July and will reveal all when it's done.
best,
JT



Well after much thought iI will make an educated guess and please tell me if I am wrong:

ANGIE STONE
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =

Canada
11687 Posts

Posted - 06/27/2004 :  11:27:08  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The answer to this was already revealed in some other thread...


"When 5000 posts you reach / Look as good you will not, hmmm?"

Edited by - Cult_Of_Frank on 06/27/2004 11:27:40
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mereubu
= FB QuizMistress =

USA
2677 Posts

Posted - 06/27/2004 :  12:04:28  Show Profile  Visit mereubu's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Dur, then reveal it here too, Dean! :P
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Mac E. Doobage
= Cult of Ray =

503 Posts

Posted - 06/27/2004 :  12:05:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Cult_Of_Frank

The answer to this was already revealed in some other thread...


"When 5000 posts you reach / Look as good you will not, hmmm?"




What thread pray tell and/or who is it?
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whitenoisemaker
- FB Fan -

17 Posts

Posted - 06/27/2004 :  13:11:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Seriously...it's Missy Elliot.
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =

Canada
11687 Posts

Posted - 06/27/2004 :  16:08:16  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I don't remember the name nor the thread, unfortunately, but it's there somewhere for the soul who is not too lazy/busy to look. Which rules me out doubly.


"When 5000 posts you reach / Look as good you will not, hmmm?"
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Mac E. Doobage
= Cult of Ray =

503 Posts

Posted - 06/27/2004 :  19:01:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by whitenoisemaker

Seriously...it's Missy Elliot.





Really?
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NimrodsSon
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1938 Posts

Posted - 06/27/2004 :  19:34:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It's Shemekia Copeland and the thread is here: http://forum.frankblack.net/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8119&whichpage=2


ˇViva los Católicos!
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mereubu
= FB QuizMistress =

USA
2677 Posts

Posted - 06/27/2004 :  20:27:06  Show Profile  Visit mereubu's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thanks, Adrian!
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Jontiven
= Cult of Ray =

USA
347 Posts

Posted - 07/25/2004 :  11:05:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just so nobody gets excited, disappointed, etc for no reason....the Frank Black/Shemekia Copeland duet, although recorded and mixed, will most likely NOT appear on "Honeycomb" mainly because its mood does not fit in with the rest of the record. But it is extraordinary and hopefully there will be an occasion in the future that will prompt its release.
The record is, finally, finished and moving in the direction of being in the public hands.
best,
Jon Tiven
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Frog in the Sand
-+ Le premiere frog +-

France
2715 Posts

Posted - 07/25/2004 :  11:41:46  Show Profile  Visit Frog in the Sand's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi and thanks Jon,

- What's the song Shemekia sings on?
- Is it true that only 14 songs made the final cut?

( http://forum.frankblack.net/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=9080 )


"Join the Cult of Jon T. / and win your weight in cereals"

Edited by - Frog in the Sand on 07/25/2004 11:42:14
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Monsieur
* Dog in the Sand *

France
1688 Posts

Posted - 07/25/2004 :  12:32:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Now all we need to know is when it is going to be released. Man, I can't wait to hear it, I've never been so curious about a FB album.
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LUTINS
- FB Fan -

France
182 Posts

Posted - 07/25/2004 :  12:56:19  Show Profile  Click to see LUTINS's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Is it true that the next pixies song will be a song of Warren Zevon ?


union pour la propulsion de la promotion photonique pixienne
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Ten Percenter
- FB Enquirer -

United Kingdom
1733 Posts

Posted - 07/25/2004 :  13:16:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks Jon. I hope the album comes out this year, although I fear that this is unlikely given Franks Pixies commitments.



"Fried food, cigarettes, no exercise, chest pain..." (Excerpt from the Angina Monologues)
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Avid-Fan
- FB Fan -

100 Posts

Posted - 07/25/2004 :  17:30:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you JT! I suppose any time-frame for releasing "honeycomb" could appear to be awkward, w/ Pixies machinations in progress, etc. BUT I do hope it is sooner [2004] rather than later.. I would just hate it to slip thru the cracks if it's left sitting on the shelf too long..

Maybe there could be a Ltd Ed. release with a 2nd disc, like the Euro version of Cult of Ray. It would be nice to have most/all of the tracks from the same session/s available in some way.. Really looking forward to the realease, whenever it is...


(( I talk plain talk ))
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Avid-Fan
- FB Fan -

100 Posts

Posted - 07/25/2004 :  17:35:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LUTINS

Is it true that the next pixies song will be a song of Warren Zevon ?


union pour la propulsion de la promotion photonique pixienne



Yes apparently so, "ain't that pretty at all" is supposedly the track..


(( I talk plain talk ))
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Jontiven
= Cult of Ray =

USA
347 Posts

Posted - 07/29/2004 :  11:00:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The song Shemekia did with Frank was "Highway To Lowdown" and it did not make the final sequence, the reports of it being a 14-song cd are indeed accurate. When it will get released is still an open question, but I would guess 2005.
My understanding is that the Pixies recorded a song for the Warren Zevon tribute. So you are correct sir.
best wishes,
Jon Tiven

Edited by - Jontiven on 07/29/2004 11:01:01
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Monsieur
* Dog in the Sand *

France
1688 Posts

Posted - 07/29/2004 :  11:05:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Cool Mr Tiven, thank you for keeping the spirit of Honeycomb alive.
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TheCroutonFuton
- Mr. Setlists -

USA
1728 Posts

Posted - 07/29/2004 :  11:40:50  Show Profile  Visit TheCroutonFuton's Homepage  Reply with Quote
2005? That saddens me. Oh well...

"Freedom is a state of mind and the condition and position of your ass. Free your mind and your ass will follow." - Funkadelic
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Frog in the Sand
-+ Le premiere frog +-

France
2715 Posts

Posted - 07/29/2004 :  11:50:46  Show Profile  Visit Frog in the Sand's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thanks Jon.

Not only the spirit of Honeycomb is alive, but it's already flooding France!


"Join the Cult of Jon T. / and win your weight in cereals"
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Ten Percenter
- FB Enquirer -

United Kingdom
1733 Posts

Posted - 07/30/2004 :  00:14:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
and Scotland! Well, it is the Auld Alliance, after all. Thanks for the news Jon, although 2005 seems a long way off. Patience is a virtue I haven't got.



"Fried food, cigarettes, no exercise, chest pain..." (Excerpt from the Angina Monologues)
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twist
- FB Fan -

USA
191 Posts

Posted - 08/08/2004 :  13:43:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm completely unfamiliar with %96 of these songs(probably heard a few live) but my unqualified gut feeling is the longer all these songs sit around unreleased, the greater the chance FB'll want to continue retweaking. My own irresponsible spidey senses tell me this could end up being one of the greatest records ever.
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Hanoi333
- FB Fan -

Netherlands
70 Posts

Posted - 08/10/2004 :  05:08:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
By the way, whatever happened to funk?
Does it mean that Frank is trying to become funky next time?
Does he want to make funk alive again? Maybe on this album or the next one we will even hear some funky saxophone tunes.
Well maybe that`s not a good idea if it don`t fit with Frank`s style.
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Hanoi333
- FB Fan -

Netherlands
70 Posts

Posted - 08/10/2004 :  05:35:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You will never guess the mystery singer.
But I will give a hint. Several, actually.
She is a woman of color under thirty. She has been on the covers of many magazines, but will most likely be unfamiliar to all of you. She is not of the pop idiom.
My telling you this is just to eliminate random guessing. I find it highly unlikely that anyone will be able to figure out who it is, and even when she is revealed, most of you will say "Who?" But she sings beautifully and has won many awards and has a sizeable audience of her own that rarely intersects with the FB audience.
I will be doing the recording in mid-July and will reveal all when it's done.
best,
JT


Maybe the misterious singer is the Famous Vietnamese woman singer "Hong Nhung", who is on many covers of magazines in VN,great vocalist and probably won many prices nationally, one problem I would not call her coloured, would be nice though!
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Jontiven
= Cult of Ray =

USA
347 Posts

Posted - 08/11/2004 :  06:23:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
To reiterate, the duet vocalist was Shemekia Copeland but the track is not making the final sequence for the record. HONEYCOMB is complete and we will have some news---hopefully soon---as to when it will be released and on what label.
There will be more news in October.
best,
Jon Tiven
p.s. ok, I know all of you are dying for info on HONEYCOMB. There are 14 songs on it. Guitars by Steve Cropper, Buddy Miller & Reggie Young. Bass-David Hood. Keys-Spooner Oldham. Drums-Billy Block,
Anton Fig, Chester Thompson and Akil Thompson. The background vocals are by James Griffin (Bread fans, take note), Dan Penn (soul music legend), Spooner Oldham (ditto) and Ellis Hooks (whose new album UNCOMPLICATED on Artemis was produced by yours truly and I highly recommend it). The album has 14 tracks, all killer no filler. The covers are "Dark End of the Street," "Song of the Shrimp," and "Sunday Sunny Mill Valley Groove Day."
That's all I am permitted to disclose at the present time.
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CaptainMaximus
- FB Fan -

126 Posts

Posted - 08/11/2004 :  06:54:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
More news in October? Hmmm...! Thanks for the info. Quite a lineup there, and I'm looking forward to hearing how all this legendary blood has pumped something new into FB's work.
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