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Sprite
* Dog in the Sand *

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Posted - 10/24/2024 :  05:19:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ah good shout out, that fits.
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yarbles
= Cult of Ray =

USA
635 Posts

Posted - 10/24/2024 :  05:19:10  Show Profile  Visit yarbles's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by tamefan

You're So Impatient is straight up a Dandy Warhols song

what is this



As a Dandy Warhols fan.... is that a bad thing?

Also, that song has been around for months, you didn't listen to any of the singles?
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Sprite
* Dog in the Sand *

1334 Posts

Posted - 10/24/2024 :  05:20:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Was a bit so-so about this song first few listens but now I really dig it.

Edited by - Sprite on 10/24/2024 05:35:36
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Bedbug
> Teenager of the Year <

3142 Posts

Posted - 10/24/2024 :  05:22:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I love reading these reactions, keep them coming
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Sprite
* Dog in the Sand *

1334 Posts

Posted - 10/24/2024 :  05:22:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ha I double posted so I edit.

Am in a very long and boring meeting at work right now. So far I only now You're so Impatient and Chicken. Am excited to hear Chicken is representative of the album.

No time to set up VPN so I'll sit tight till tonight (I'm so patient)

Edited by - Sprite on 10/24/2024 05:36:00
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yarbles
= Cult of Ray =

USA
635 Posts

Posted - 10/24/2024 :  05:26:00  Show Profile  Visit yarbles's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I love the vibe/production on Jane(The Night the Zombies Came).... a haunted nursery rhyme.
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tamefan
- FB Fan -

Canada
239 Posts

Posted - 10/24/2024 :  05:30:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by yarbles

quote:
Originally posted by tamefan

You're So Impatient is straight up a Dandy Warhols song

what is this



As a Dandy Warhols fan.... is that a bad thing?

Also, that song has been around for months, you didn't listen to any of the singles?



NO SPOILERS
NO MOVIE TRAILERS
NO SINGLES
NO TOUCHING



i fking love the dandy warhols
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yarbles
= Cult of Ray =

USA
635 Posts

Posted - 10/24/2024 :  05:33:33  Show Profile  Visit yarbles's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Dandys Rule, Ok?

Also.... Ernest Evans is super fun... haven't ever heard a vocal delivery from Charles like that on a Pixies record. Fun fun track.

Ok guys, really give this album a devoted listen on headphones. It's really rewarding. the first listen I had on speakers while making lunch with kids running around and stuff... it's not so much a put it on in the background type album. At least for the first listen.
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tamefan
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Canada
239 Posts

Posted - 10/24/2024 :  05:37:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm still chewing on tracks 1 and 2. Primrose is utterly earnest (as far as I can tell on a handful of listens and without official lyrics). It's a song inviting us into the world of this album. And I'm prepared to go along for the ride. But... You're So Impatient rips me right out with its tongue-in-cheek sass. I far prefer it, too; it's a banger. But how are these tracks supposed to coexist?

Edit: I'm willing to go with "playful juxtaposition." I should probably listen to track 3.

Edited by - tamefan on 10/24/2024 05:44:17
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Sprite
* Dog in the Sand *

1334 Posts

Posted - 10/24/2024 :  05:41:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by yarbles

Dandys Rule, Ok?

Also.... Ernest Evans is super fun... haven't ever heard a vocal delivery from Charles like that on a Pixies record. Fun fun track.

Ok guys, really give this album a devoted listen on headphones. It's really rewarding. the first listen I had on speakers while making lunch with kids running around and stuff... it's not so much a put it on in the background type album. At least for the first listen.



That is admirable. My kids would have been put in front of the TV with a giant bag of haribo and the remote control :)
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yarbles
= Cult of Ray =

USA
635 Posts

Posted - 10/24/2024 :  12:59:46  Show Profile  Visit yarbles's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by tamefan

You're So Impatient is straight up a Dandy Warhols song
edit2 : i'm going to listen to this song hundreds of times god damn it



I only just remembered this now, but months ago I played my copy of the 45 single of You're So Impatient but accidentally had my turntable set at 33 rpm.... the slowed down version sounded even more like the Dandys, especially the low voice. Sounded almost exactly like Courtney Taylor Taylor. My wife even came into the room and asked if I was listening to a new Dandy's song.
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Sprite
* Dog in the Sand *

1334 Posts

Posted - 10/24/2024 :  15:49:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well it's 00:43 and I've just listened through once. Well well that is one tasty record. After 4 attempts Dalgety has *nailed* Frank's vocal. Loads of reverb, loads of quirk. Loads of 80s, I'm picking up traces of Madness, Adam and the Ants, The Smiths as well the Beatles. There's layers and layers on this. Not a dud on the record. Just several moments of shivers down the spine. Can't wait to explore this over the next weeks. Think Doolittle meets Dog in the Sand.

Off to bed, fascinated to hear what y'all make of this.
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natenate101
= Cult of Ray =

USA
892 Posts

Posted - 10/24/2024 :  17:16:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Lyric videos up on YouTube now

I gotta say this is kind of a different band to me now. Definitely more FB and friends as Joey continues to take a smaller role.

Primrose is an odd opener to me, too subdued but pretty. Needed more Joey.
Title track is a very nice listen and BF’s “Jane” background yelp adds some needed quirk.
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QuaBear
- FB Fan -

USA
66 Posts

Posted - 10/24/2024 :  17:25:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Disagree. Primrose is absolutely fantastic, and Joey is all over that song and this record.


quote:
Originally posted by natenate101

Lyric videos up on YouTube now

I gotta say this is kind of a different band to me now. Definitely more FB and friends as Joey continues to take a smaller role.

Primrose is an odd opener to me, too subdued but pretty. Needed more Joey.
Title track is a very nice listen and BF’s “Jane” background yelp adds some needed quirk.

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natenate101
= Cult of Ray =

USA
892 Posts

Posted - 10/24/2024 :  17:43:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
^ that’s cool. It’s kinda meh to me as the opener but I guess Impatient is supposed to be the energy boost. And Joey may be playing on it but it’s a different more straightforward Joey. But hey, to each his/her own.
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natenate101
= Cult of Ray =

USA
892 Posts

Posted - 10/24/2024 :  17:49:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hear You Mary has good energy and interesting lyrics. Would’ve liked Joey to go a little harder just after the first chorus. Solid track that doesn’t wear out it’s welcome.
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QuaBear
- FB Fan -

USA
66 Posts

Posted - 10/24/2024 :  17:53:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think all of these songs don't wear out their welcome, which is different from all of the 2.0 records, in my opinion. I do think in Mary, at the end, it felt like a No. 13 Baby moment....I would have liked to have heard some Joey part there, but at the same time, I think it definitely still works well.

quote:
Originally posted by natenate101

Hear You Mary has good energy and interesting lyrics. Would’ve liked Joey to go a little harder just after the first chorus. Solid track that doesn’t wear out it’s welcome.

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QuaBear
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USA
66 Posts

Posted - 10/24/2024 :  17:55:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
In other words, my favorite 2.0 record, hands down
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natenate101
= Cult of Ray =

USA
892 Posts

Posted - 10/24/2024 :  17:59:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Johnny Good Man. Hmm, loaded one for me. Enjoyable song, and I love Joey’s tone on the outro section. Would’ve loved another minute of him. It’s fun, and I could definitely see it as a track on NSE or Abbadubba. Not very Pixies to me but again, it’s fun.
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QuaBear
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USA
66 Posts

Posted - 10/24/2024 :  19:17:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Primrose is one of the most gorgeous--if not the most gorgeous--songs the Pixies have ever released.

Edited by - QuaBear on 10/24/2024 19:17:59
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AG80
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USA
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Posted - 10/24/2024 :  19:24:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Jane The Night the Zombies Came is such an amazing song.

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AG80
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USA
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Posted - 10/24/2024 :  20:41:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Great album all around.

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Skatealex1
* Dog in the Sand *

1670 Posts

Posted - 10/24/2024 :  21:05:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Will need some more time to see how the album grows as a piece over time. Johnny Good Man grew on me a little on second listen. Also dig the opener.

Oyster Beds is also still a favorite- maybe the one that most harkens back to more old school Pixies (Trompe era) for me.
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natenate101
= Cult of Ray =

USA
892 Posts

Posted - 10/24/2024 :  21:28:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Skatealex1

Will need some more time to see how the album grows as a piece over time. Johnny Good Man grew on me a little on second listen. Also dig the opener.

Oyster Beds is also still a favorite- maybe the one that most harkens back to more old school Pixies (Trompe era) for me.


Agreed on Oyster Beds. Loved that one immediately when it was released

Impatient sounds better blasting in after Primrose.
I like that the songs are on the shorter side. Not as many choruses repeated over and over which I see as a plus.

It’s crazy how the “Jane” in the chorus elevates that song into a more Pixies vibe. Glad they added it.

Still getting through the first listen (had soccer playoffs) but i already enjoy it more than Doggerel. That one didn’t work for me at all.

Edited by - natenate101 on 10/24/2024 21:42:31
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yarbles
= Cult of Ray =

USA
635 Posts

Posted - 10/24/2024 :  23:47:23  Show Profile  Visit yarbles's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Jane just keeps on delivering, it's the song I just keep coming back to.... It's beautiful, haunting, simple, dark, so simple that it just works. I love the added "JANE!" bit in the choruses, I believe that's Dave. At least the louder shouted ones, the lower more subdued ones might be Charles. Anyway, that chorus is just simply incredible, so simple it's a bit confusing that it works so well.
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Active Duck
~ Abstract Brain ~

United Kingdom
432 Posts

Posted - 10/25/2024 :  01:37:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Almost nothing has grabbed me beyond the singles after the first couple of listens. Maybe a good sign. I don't think many of my favourite Pixies tracks made any sense to my ears right away.
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tamefan
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Canada
239 Posts

Posted - 10/25/2024 :  04:35:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
holy crap Charles sounds like a tuvan throat singer during motoroller's final refrain

it's early days so i hesitate to render verdict on the record. i agree with nate & qua: these are pithy and gripping songs. and without a doubt, we're in the mature phase of Pixies 2.0. i went back and listened to some indie cindy songs and, for me, it's a no-brainer: i'll take chicken over silver snail, hypnotised over blue-eyed hexa. do i wish the mastering was better? yes. would i prefer more screaming (even just one time)? yes. would emma's vocals serve the music better if she started smoking a pack of cigarettes a day? yes. but ultimately it's about songwriting and these songs are just more gripping.

anyway those are my impressions after the first 7 tracks. i've got hypnotised and johnny good man on repeat. i'll check out the album's back half tonight and then let it decant over the weekend. gonna grab a pack of a certain nostalgic beer that i've only had once in the past 8 or 9 years. happy days

Edited by - tamefan on 10/25/2024 05:14:16
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Ziggy
* Dog in the Sand *

United Kingdom
2463 Posts

Posted - 10/25/2024 :  04:53:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A few thoughts:

As others have said, it's a nice departure from the repetitive songs on Doggerel. Lots of unexpected twists. Some beautiful guitar work from Joey throughout.

Mercy Me is unexpectedly one of my favourites of the 'unheard' songs here. I love BF's vocal (and Emma's).

I'd swap Primrose and You're So Impatient in the tracklisting.

I wonder if I'd enjoy The Vegas Suite more if we hadn't heard it so much in the past year.

Edited by - Ziggy on 10/25/2024 04:56:03
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yarbles
= Cult of Ray =

USA
635 Posts

Posted - 10/25/2024 :  05:17:49  Show Profile  Visit yarbles's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I think You're So Impatient should be somewhere else in the album. Primrose is beautiful, atmospheric, really sets the tone well. That tone can be found in Jane and Chicken as well.... Impatient is quite jarring rammed in the middle of that sequence.

Edited by - yarbles on 10/25/2024 05:18:13
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tamefan
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Canada
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Posted - 10/25/2024 :  05:30:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
yeah the track sequencing is a little questionable. i suppose the logic behind Impatient is you want a catchy single for your second song. the tone primrose sets certainly doesn't foreshadow ~rock songs like impatient, hypnotised, or johnny good man. on the other hand, it is a pixies kind of thing to have sudden tonal and stylistic shifts. and this album is faithful to the spirit of pixies i'd say, all things considered.

Edited by - tamefan on 10/25/2024 05:38:48
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The Holiday Son
= Quote Accumulator =

France
2010 Posts

Posted - 10/25/2024 :  07:44:45  Show Profile  Visit The Holiday Son's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I've only listened to it once but so far only Pimrose and Vegas (studio version is way better !) stand out.
I don't like Impatient and Oyster, they seem like lazy songwriting.
The other ones could very well be growers especially the ones after Oyster Beds.

Edited by - The Holiday Son on 10/25/2024 07:45:34
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Stevio10
* Dog in the Sand *

United Kingdom
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Posted - 10/25/2024 :  08:40:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Active Duck

Almost nothing has grabbed me beyond the singles after the first couple of listens. Maybe a good sign. I don't think many of my favourite Pixies tracks made any sense to my ears right away.



I feel the same way, listened earlier but didn't get a sense of anything outstanding or immediately want me to listen again.

I like the singles but, much like most of their recent material, after a few listens they wear out their welcome relatively soon. Will give it further listens of course but I'm not as excited as I thought I would be.

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billgoodman
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Netherlands
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Posted - 10/25/2024 :  10:15:22  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
First and second listen: the rock songs don't do it for me, except Oyster Beds which is easily my favorite.

The quiet songs are very nice. Jane has a production that I would have never used on a Pixies record, but it totally works.

Great, great song

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Sprite
* Dog in the Sand *

1334 Posts

Posted - 10/25/2024 :  11:21:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Picked up the record and CD on the way home from Fopp. Guess what was playing? Nods were exchanged.

Am now 2.5 listens in but already Motoroller has its finger on my clitoris. Absolute TUNE!!

Edited by - Sprite on 10/25/2024 11:21:41
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Bedbug
> Teenager of the Year <

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Posted - 10/25/2024 :  11:55:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I love reading everyone's comments.

This is like Christmas(s) in October.

Thanks again Frank and team.

My thoughts:

What a great album. I can't believe the run he is having again with these last 3 in a row.

Primrose: an absolute dream, love the way it sets the tone for the journey
Impatient: lots of fun, maybe forgettable but a solid ditty nontheless. I don't mind the jarring juxtoposition, maybe Frank is doing his Kubrick
Jane: What a strange and interesting song. I can't figure it out really but I love it. How weird on a Pixies album
Chicken: another fantastic dream. Love this song, still weird to me.
Hypnotised: I mean this as a compliment: I feel like Frank wrote this for Britney or Miley Cyrus and got rejected and so just did it himself
Johnny: Reminded me of post-country Frank, even Barleycorn
Motoroller: Another fun one, maybe forgettable too, but maybe not, definitely a grower
Mary: not sure what to think yet
Oyster: I love it, but I'm not on board with those who say it could fit on TLM. Nothing can approach TLM. But Oyster is terrific still
Mercy Me: not sure what to think yet
Ernest Evans: not sure what to think yet
Kings of the prairie: really dig this one too, simple and fun and probably deeper than it looks
Vegas: even better than i could have hoped for, another dream to close the album

I think Frank's writing is great, I think he's given us lots to dig in to for a long time

I don't mind that a couple of the songs just end, but I'm not sure I would have made that production choice myself

I can't take the Guardian seriously or anyone who can just slap a low card review on this album. People are bitter at Frank for no reason. Grow up.

I would probably give it an 8/10
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