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natenate101
= Cult of Ray =
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The Maharal
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 Posted - 04/25/2014 : 02:44:20
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Haha weird seeing my local paper (Galway Advertiser) linked to on here. Saw the physical copy and was a bit bemused at the massive love for Another Toe but then again the whole album is polarising opinion.
Pitchfork did a review of the band's whole catalogue. They had this to say about Indie Cindy:
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The Pixies have now been reunited for four years longer than they were around to begin with, but are just getting around to releasing a new album, which they have called Indie Cindy. Worse than any of the music is the feeling that a band so deft at challenging the system has become part of it in the most predictable ways, rubbing together the tropes of their old art and hoping they can still start a fire, replacing experimentation with routine, filling Kim Deal's place with not one but two different bassists over the last five months, breaking up the album into three EPs to gin up interest, and generally reminding us that artists of their stature are businesses, not charities.
Things start decent and peter out quick. "What Goes Boom", "Greens and Blues", "Indie Cindy": these are slick songs, a little overextended and puffed up, intimidated by the band's legacy but charming in their own way. But part of what made the Pixies interesting is that they always seemed to possess some unquantifiable danger, which they no longer do. Three middle-aged guys seeing what happens when they get back on the horse and try again, they now sound most comfortable when they're being laid-back, "Greens and Blues" and the chorus of "Indie Cindy" especially. The album's lows aren't so much bad as routine. "Snakes", "Blue Eyed Hexe", et cetera: these are just distractions, breadsticks.
Indie Cindy's title track is built using the template of Bossanova: Spacey and gorgeous, shattered and dissonant, spacey and gorgeous again. Toward the end of the song, Francis offers the line, "As we follow the bouncing the ball/ They call this dance the washed-up crawl," and then, a simple plea: "Indie Cindy, be in love with me." Part of loving the Pixies has always been the suspicion that they were gracing us from an alien place somewhere beyond love, where sentiment was never easy or necessary. It may be the most vulnerable line Francis ever wrote.
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/19282-pixies-catalogue/
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natenate101
= Cult of Ray =
USA
892 Posts |
Posted - 04/25/2014 : 04:22:24
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I just can't take that Pitchfork review seriously, as that rating is ridiculous. Oh well, we all knew that one was coming.
Someone linked the Playboy review of Indie Cindy to BF's twitter, and he gave a funny response.
Some fans seem so angry about the band making new music, it's very odd to me. Looking at some of these people, many don't seem old enough to even have a large history with the band. I can understand why artists these days stay away from internet comments and engaging meaningfully with people online. Anonymity makes these punks real brave. BF does a good job of taking it in stride, or at least that's what he projects in his responses. Good for him. |
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Sprite
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 04/25/2014 : 05:01:11
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| If pitchfork were around in 1990 or 1991 there is not a rat's chance in hell they would have rated Bosssanova or Trompe in the +9s. All the hipster publications then were saying the Pixies were not great anymore. It's only over time that such listeners have caught up and realised that these were excellent albums as well. To be be fair even a rating of 2.5 for Indie Cindy is on an upwards trend (1 for EP1, 2 for EP2). In a couple of years it'll have gone up to 4 no doubt, in later years there'll be race on to 're-evaluate' it first. I am either a blissfully ignorant fanboy or ahead of the curve musically to fully believe that this record is a solid 8.5 right now. |
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pixie punk
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Sprite
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 04/25/2014 : 05:43:11
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| That is what I call a well informed review. Very good indeed. |
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pixie punk
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natenate101
= Cult of Ray =
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trevgreg
- FB Fan -
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Posted - 04/26/2014 : 15:03:02
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| Has anyone decided yet on how they're buying the CD next week? I was hoping to use up a Best Buy certificate that I had printed off, but I'm not even sure if they'll be carrying the album on Tuesday! If not, then I'd probably look to ordering it off Amazon and then buying the live tracks off of itunes. |
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pixie punk
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Stevio10
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
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Posted - 04/27/2014 : 05:37:09
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Although I know it matters little, and I applaud the stance not to score an album, it's nice to see that review giving it a positive score.
Most of the positive reviews I've read haven't scored the album!
Not that it should matter, the Metacritic score will not influence or affect my opinion of the album - but it would be nice to have more of the positive reviews put down for the record if only to show the full picture. |
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Discoking
* Dog in the Sand *
Belgium
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Posted - 04/27/2014 : 05:55:23
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i went to the shop yesterday, and they already had the album, on cd and on vinyl.
also, i ordered the japanese cd version online, and it arrived a couple of days ago.
 it's educational |
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Sprite
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 04/27/2014 : 08:28:47
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
Ireland
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Posted - 04/27/2014 : 10:01:51
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| Nice to see the music shops with a new Pixies album on display. Tempted to get the vinyl, even though I don't have a record player... |
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pixie punk
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natenate101
= Cult of Ray =
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Fissile
= Cult of Ray =
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Posted - 04/27/2014 : 16:23:01
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Originally posted by natenate101
Brutal review here, but if I remember correctly this same critic bashed the EPs with an obvious score to settle with the non-Deal pixies. The comments are loaded with people who think the review is pretty personal.
http://www.theguardian.com/music/2014/apr/27/pixies-indie-cindy-review-craven-cash-in
From the review:
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Deal, meanwhile, has spent years caring for her mother, who has Alzheimer's – a period documented last year on the moving Are You Mine. She has since posted a newer song, The Root, released for Record Store Day. It's a pretty basic demo that nonetheless knocks much of this Pixies album into a cocked hat.
Most of these reviews are by people who are either in the Frank camp or the Kim camp. The above reviewer is clearly a Kim loyalist. The bit about Kim taking care of her mother(something I really doubt she does)made me wince.....Kim the selfless saint, Frank the narcissistic monster, comes off as really maudlin.
Any case, I've been watching some of the Pixies shows on Youtube featuring Paz. First off they are playing large venues that appear to be sold out. Secondly, Paz is killing it. She does Kim's bass lines better than Kim does. If the Pixies remain consistent and continue to grow as artists, a year or two from now people will be asking, "Kim who?" |
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Discoking
* Dog in the Sand *
Belgium
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Posted - 04/27/2014 : 21:08:28
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Originally posted by Sprite
Anything special about the Japanese version?
two bonus tracks:
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13 Monkey Gone to Heaven (Live in the USA 2014) (Japan Bonus Tracks)
14 Nimrod’s Son (Live in the USA 2014) (Japan Bonus Tracks)
it's educational |
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Sprite
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 04/28/2014 : 00:31:22
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| Ah OK nice. Was very happy to see that the Vinyl copy includes a CD of the album as well. I didn't know that was going to be included. |
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BunsenH
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natenate101
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
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Posted - 04/29/2014 : 04:29:29
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Pure based on the art by V23, I think the deluxe cd version is the best way the enjoy this release.
Not as neon as the album and with proper readable lyrics and some nice extra drawings too.
I love the vinyl label though. It's pretty nice that v23 made different things for the different media.
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natenate101
= Cult of Ray =
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natenate101
= Cult of Ray =
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Posted - 04/30/2014 : 05:47:58
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trevgreg
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Posted - 04/30/2014 : 06:06:47
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Originally posted by natenate101
Did anyone purchase the CD? Curious if it had any booklet with lyrics?
I bought the Digipak and no, there was no booket. Some of the EP artwork was attached to the cover in pages though and there was a small folded insert with all of the lyrics. |
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OLDMANOTY
= Cult of Ray =
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Posted - 05/01/2014 : 11:12:46
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| The album format really hangs together well imo. Tracks that previously underwhelmed me I'm now enjoying - Ring the Bell for instance. Despite the continuing hatchet job reviews and yawnsome 'no Kim no deal' comments I think time will be kind to this album. I genuinely think it's better than Bossanova (my previous least favourite Pixies album). Just wished they hadn't called it Indie Cindy - it sounds so cheesy and throwaway, makes me cringe. Jaime Bravo would've been a great title. |
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natenate101
= Cult of Ray =
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Posted - 05/01/2014 : 11:54:55
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Originally posted by OLDMANOTY
The album format really hangs together well imo. Tracks that previously underwhelmed me I'm now enjoying - Ring the Bell for instance. Despite the continuing hatchet job reviews and yawnsome 'no Kim no deal' comments I think time will be kind to this album. I genuinely think it's better than Bossanova (my previous least favourite Pixies album). Just wished they hadn't called it Indie Cindy - it sounds so cheesy and throwaway, makes me cringe. Jaime Bravo would've been a great title.
I agree, it all flows well. The title is terrible though. |
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
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Posted - 05/01/2014 : 12:43:12
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| Got the CD today and gave it a listen, of course like most fans I'm already familiar with most of the tracks. Its maybe a bit more 'straight' than early Pixies, but its a strong set of songs overall. There's a hint of solo Frank in some of the songs. I disagree that Another Toe is too commercial, its actually one of my fave 'new' songs. Snakes is probably my least favourite track on the album, it's not a bad song per se, though. |
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teenager94
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Posted - 05/01/2014 : 12:44:19
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It's interesting reading about the different versions/formats being discussed here. Extra songs on Japanese version etc. The one over in Ireland has great art work and the lyrics folded on small paper. However, the most important ingredient is that it sounds great.As some have said this will improve with age. That's what 'Pixies'do. I can't wait for the Cork gig and to hear this stuff for real!! quote:
Originally posted by trevgreg
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Originally posted by natenate101
Did anyone purchase the CD? Curious if it had any booklet with lyrics?
I bought the Digipak and no, there was no booket. Some of the EP artwork was attached to the cover in pages though and there was a small folded insert with all of the lyrics.
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The Champ
= Cult of Ray =
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Posted - 05/01/2014 : 16:59:11
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Originally posted by Sprite
If pitchfork were around in 1990 or 1991 there is not a rat's chance in hell they would have rated Bosssanova or Trompe in the +9s. All the hipster publications then were saying the Pixies were not great anymore. It's only over time that such listeners have caught up and realised that these were excellent albums as well. To be be fair even a rating of 2.5 for Indie Cindy is on an upwards trend (1 for EP1, 2 for EP2). In a couple of years it'll have gone up to 4 no doubt, in later years there'll be race on to 're-evaluate' it first. I am either a blissfully ignorant fanboy or ahead of the curve musically to fully believe that this record is a solid 8.5 right now.
There is no chance they would have given Bossanova anything over a 2, because they would have been comparing it to Doolittle and Surfer; the same bad attitude they have for reviewing Indie Cindy.
Those brain dead reviewers actually think that Andro Queen and Indy Cindy are bad songs. They are two of the best songs Pixies have ever made.
Can you imagine the embarrassing reviews they would have had for "here comes your man" if they only had the Loud Surfer Rosa as a reference?
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OLDMANOTY
= Cult of Ray =
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Oui
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Posted - 05/02/2014 : 13:58:05
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| Nice review and I'm glad to see others appreciate those two wonders, Ring the Bell and Jaime Bravo. |
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sdon
= Cult of Ray =
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Posted - 05/02/2014 : 23:56:41
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As much as I love the first half of the album, with all the strong tracks, I'm growing happier now with the second half, and especially with the surprising pop gems Ring The Bell, Snakes and Jaime Bravo.
in French : j'aime, bravo!
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Sprite
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 05/03/2014 : 00:06:09
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| I've become slightly obsessed with Ring the Bell in the past two weeks. The melody has a kind of aching quality to to and Joey's guitar is beautifully minimalist. Favourite song off the album right now. |
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