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jake3
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United Kingdom
248 Posts

Posted - 05/05/2014 :  16:00:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Loving the new album. It's interesting going back to Frank's early solo performances and seeing how they've changed. Anyone else think the songs have lost something? Particularly Greens and Blues :/

Greens and Blues:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJKwOJ1_fe8

Silver Snail:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGotzgVDc3A

Andro Queen:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7hyNoKPdsk

Indie Cindy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urUZ7LXaOkE

I hope they keep 'Classic Masher' relatively simple. I wonder why they never fully recorded it for 'Indie Cindy'? hmm...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7o1IlmWjXow
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sdon
= Cult of Ray =

France
786 Posts

Posted - 05/05/2014 :  22:28:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Those performances were more raw, natural, and "inhabited", especially Greens and Andro
Maybe a bit faster as well

Love Dubs' drumming on Andro Queen, so much less "in your face" than Lovering's military march

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Ziggy
* Dog in the Sand *

United Kingdom
2463 Posts

Posted - 05/05/2014 :  23:28:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sdon

Those performances were more raw, natural, and "inhabited", especially Greens and Andro
Maybe a bit faster as well

Love Dubs' drumming on Andro Queen, so much less "in your face" than Lovering's military march

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"Aristophanes! (gong sounds)"



It pains me how slow 'Greens and Blues' is on the record. Always waiting for it to properly kick in.
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velvety
= Cult of Ray =

Portugal
536 Posts

Posted - 05/06/2014 :  08:07:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ziggy

quote:
Originally posted by sdon

Those performances were more raw, natural, and "inhabited", especially Greens and Andro
Maybe a bit faster as well

Love Dubs' drumming on Andro Queen, so much less "in your face" than Lovering's military march

--
"Aristophanes! (gong sounds)"



It pains me how slow 'Greens and Blues' is on the record. Always waiting for it to properly kick in.



Agreed. Love how Andro Queen and Silver Snail turned out, though. But yeah, too many mid-tempo songs on the album. Miss some throwaway punk fun, like 'Lovely Day' or 'I Sent Away', etc.
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natenate101
= Cult of Ray =

USA
892 Posts

Posted - 05/06/2014 :  08:10:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by velvety

quote:
Originally posted by Ziggy

quote:
Originally posted by sdon

Those performances were more raw, natural, and "inhabited", especially Greens and Andro
Maybe a bit faster as well

Love Dubs' drumming on Andro Queen, so much less "in your face" than Lovering's military march

--
"Aristophanes! (gong sounds)"



It pains me how slow 'Greens and Blues' is on the record. Always waiting for it to properly kick in.



Agreed. Love how Andro Queen and Silver Snail turned out, though. But yeah, too many mid-tempo songs on the album. Miss some throwaway punk fun, like 'Lovely Day' or 'I Sent Away', etc.



Very much agree. Hopefully they utilize shorter bursts on new stuff. Get In, Get Out.
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Sprite
* Dog in the Sand *

1335 Posts

Posted - 05/06/2014 :  10:15:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Agree on Greens and Blues, great song but just a bit tentative on the drumming. Even David said he struggled to keep the tempo down. I wonder whose idea it was.
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picpic
* Dog in the Sand *

Belgium
1874 Posts

Posted - 05/07/2014 :  00:32:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jake3

Loving the new album. It's interesting going back to Frank's early solo performances and seeing how they've changed. Anyone else think the songs have lost something? Particularly Greens and Blues :/

Those live performances took place a few months after the actual recording of the album... So, the songs you hear on Indie Cindy are not "more advanced" versions of what he performed here. It's just the opposite.

quote:
I hope they keep 'Classic Masher' relatively simple. I wonder why they never fully recorded it for 'Indie Cindy'? hmm...

Same reason... this song was probably created after the recording sessions in Wales.

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Edited by - picpic on 05/07/2014 00:37:45
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BunsenH
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296 Posts

Posted - 05/07/2014 :  03:15:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote


quote:
I hope they keep 'Classic Masher' relatively simple. I wonder why they never fully recorded it for 'Indie Cindy'? hmm...

Same reason... this song was probably created after the recording sessions in Wales.

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The song title "Classic Masher" appeared on the list of songs registered to Rice & Beans approx. 2 years ago.
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Fissile
= Cult of Ray =

518 Posts

Posted - 05/07/2014 :  04:16:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I heard Greens and Blues played on the local radio this morning. The DJ stated that it was off the first new Pixie's album in over 20 years. He made no mention of Deal's departure.
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picpic
* Dog in the Sand *

Belgium
1874 Posts

Posted - 05/07/2014 :  04:34:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:

The song title "Classic Masher" appeared on the list of songs registered to Rice & Beans approx. 2 years ago.


Wasn't that list you're talking about from early 2013...? The Wales sessions took place in October 2012.

I think it was first posted here: http://forum.frankblack.net/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=20760

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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Niue
7443 Posts

Posted - 05/07/2014 :  05:34:52  Show Profile  Visit vilainde's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Fissile
He made no mention of Deal's departure.



I hope you called the radio station to complain
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Discoking
* Dog in the Sand *

Belgium
1120 Posts

Posted - 05/07/2014 :  06:40:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hahaha!


it's educational
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sdon
= Cult of Ray =

France
786 Posts

Posted - 05/07/2014 :  07:19:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
BF played with Dubs ANDRO QUEEN and GREENS AND BLUES in Northampton, Pleasant Street Theater, 13 July 2012
That was before Wales, just after the spring demos with Dubs

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BunsenH
= Cult of Ray =

296 Posts

Posted - 05/07/2014 :  07:32:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sdon

BF played with Dubs ANDRO QUEEN and GREENS AND BLUES in Northampton, Pleasant Street Theater, 13 July 2012
That was before Wales, just after the spring demos with Dubs

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"Aristophanes! (gong sounds)"



Gotcha. I am mistaken!
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picpic
* Dog in the Sand *

Belgium
1874 Posts

Posted - 05/07/2014 :  07:33:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
He didn't play Classic Masher before thoses sessions, or did he ?

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Fissile
= Cult of Ray =

518 Posts

Posted - 05/07/2014 :  10:03:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by vilainde

quote:
Originally posted by Fissile
He made no mention of Deal's departure.



I hope you called the radio station to complain




My point it that Kim's departure seems to be a non-issue for most of the fans now....the tone of the DJ's comments seem to indicate that he was a fan.
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sdon
= Cult of Ray =

France
786 Posts

Posted - 05/07/2014 :  13:52:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by picpic

He didn't play Classic Masher before thoses sessions, or did he ?

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Earliest version I found of live Classic Masher is Los Angeles The Mint 19 March 2013.
Since he played Silver Snail and Indie Cindy early February, it's hard to tell if Masher was written post-Wales, or if it's part of the same batch of songs they brought to Gil Norton.

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Oui
- FB Fan -

52 Posts

Posted - 05/08/2014 :  11:52:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Huh. Nice.

"Pixies' "Indie Cindy" marks their highest-ranking album on the Billboard 200 (No. 23, 10,000 sold)"

http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/6084558/ray-lamontagne-supernova-top-rock-albums-chart
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The Champ
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
736 Posts

Posted - 05/08/2014 :  15:04:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Fissile

quote:
Originally posted by vilainde

quote:
Originally posted by Fissile
He made no mention of Deal's departure.



I hope you called the radio station to complain




My point it that Kim's departure seems to be a non-issue for most of the fans now....the tone of the DJ's comments seem to indicate that he was a fan.



Yep, non-issue.

http://www.officialcharts.com/albums-chart/

Number 6 isn't bad at all.
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Fissile
= Cult of Ray =

518 Posts

Posted - 05/08/2014 :  15:45:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Champ

quote:
Originally posted by Fissile

quote:
Originally posted by vilainde

quote:
Originally posted by Fissile
He made no mention of Deal's departure.



I hope you called the radio station to complain




My point it that Kim's departure seems to be a non-issue for most of the fans now....the tone of the DJ's comments seem to indicate that he was a fan.



Yep, non-issue.

http://www.officialcharts.com/albums-chart/

Number 6 isn't bad at all.



There you go. Kim's response from a parking lot in Dayton.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8O_8QVXnUE

Edited by - Fissile on 05/08/2014 18:04:16
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The Champ
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
736 Posts

Posted - 05/08/2014 :  16:21:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Fissile

quote:
Originally posted by The Champ

quote:
Originally posted by Fissile

quote:
Originally posted by vilainde

quote:
Originally posted by Fissile
He made no mention of Deal's departure.



I hope you called the radio station to complain




My point it that Kim's departure seems to be a non-issue for most of the fans now....the tone of the DJ's comments seem to indicate that he was a fan.



Yep, non-issue.

http://www.officialcharts.com/albums-chart/

Number 6 isn't bad at all.



There you go. Kim responses from a parking lot in Dayton.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8O_8QVXnUE



lol.

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Arm Arm Arm
* Dog in the Sand *

1037 Posts

Posted - 05/08/2014 :  17:51:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
From what I've heard, I haven't really enjoyed much of Kim's music with the Breeders but I did like this song.
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pixie punk
> Teenager of the Year <

2923 Posts

Posted - 05/16/2014 :  03:29:00  Show Profile  Visit pixie punk's Homepage  Reply with Quote
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRbl7X9Ujko Allmusic.com Pixies Promo Contest Winner shared this video.

PUERTO RICO PIXIE
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matto
= Cult of Ray =

USA
954 Posts

Posted - 05/18/2014 :  18:03:31  Show Profile  Visit matto's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Indie Cindy album wheat posters on 65th NE at 71st in north Seattle. It made my day, so there.

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Fissile
= Cult of Ray =

518 Posts

Posted - 05/19/2014 :  02:48:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Arm Arm Arm

From what I've heard, I haven't really enjoyed much of Kim's music with the Breeders but I did like this song.



Kim makes the same dopey, low-fi album every 5 years or so with that cunt Albini. Nothing really new, she doesn't grow at all.
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Jason
* Dog in the Sand *

1446 Posts

Posted - 05/19/2014 :  14:05:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yeah, people who keep posting, uh, I mean making the same record over and over again suck.

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pixie punk
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Posted - 07/06/2014 :  05:38:41  Show Profile  Visit pixie punk's Homepage  Reply with Quote
http://heavyandwierd.wordpress.com/2014/07/06/album-review-indie-cindy-by-pixies/

PUERTO RICO PIXIE
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BunsenH
= Cult of Ray =

296 Posts

Posted - 07/15/2014 :  00:08:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Out now on cassette… for those of us that still worship the walkman. I want to listen like you did 'Surfer Rosa' 25+ yrs ago:

http://pixies.tmstor.es/cart/product.php?id=18431
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BunsenH
= Cult of Ray =

296 Posts

Posted - 07/15/2014 :  00:10:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by BunsenH

Out now on cassette… for those of us that still worship the walkman. I want to listen like you did 'Surfer Rosa' 25+ yrs ago:

http://pixies.tmstor.es/cart/product.php?id=18431



"I" = "Or"

… fat thumbs.
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Arm Arm Arm
* Dog in the Sand *

1037 Posts

Posted - 09/06/2015 :  06:14:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've finally given this record two listens but don't feel much for it. The few songs I did like aren't enough to pull me back. Even though I know how Frank's songwriting can grow on you, multiple listens revealing nuances and depth, I still don't have an interest. Maybe it'll be like Show Me Your Tears, something that takes years for me to get.

But I don't know. It's just not that good and I'm not even comparing it to their other records. If this were just a Frank Black album I would feel the same, some good songs but nothing great and others that are sort of bland. Certainly not as engaging as the Golem. Bits of some songs sound like bits of songs from Bossanova and Trompe. Some go on too long. I did like the intro to Snakes and that whole song but...I don't know. It's not terrible, it's just average, maybe a little below.

The playing's good but this batch of songs just didn't do it for me.
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Don Eduardo
= Cult of Ray =

Australia
403 Posts

Posted - 09/10/2015 :  01:14:53  Show Profile  Click to see Don Eduardo's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I like it more listening now than i did a year ago, but yeah it's a disappointment. I don't think there's anything on there as good as, say, Cinema Star. But I'm willing to blame the production more than anything.
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realmeanmotorscutor
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1764 Posts

Posted - 09/14/2015 :  06:10:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I like it more now than I had at first, too (as with most things Frank Black). I think some of the "cheesy" songs will be considered more fairly after the shock wears off. Am I the only one who thinks Another Toe sounds like a SVN FNGRS track?

Don, I think that Cinema Star is a good comparison to Indy Cindy. Most of those tracks are good, but not great. And the production on NSE was considered terrible when it first came out. Is that still the consensus?

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Sam
= Cult of Ray =

Ireland
514 Posts

Posted - 09/15/2015 :  23:54:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think Indie Cindy is a great record, released by a new band it would have been lauded by critics. I am sure of that.

The songwriting is top notch in my opinion. Some absolute classics in the title track, andro queen, bag boy, magdelena and Jaime bravo.

Any record that has songs of that quality is a great achievement in my view. I look forward tot he next record. I hope its a whole new batch of tracks. My personal taste would be that they sound or have similar audio quality to women of war. That is a nicely produced track.
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Arm Arm Arm
* Dog in the Sand *

1037 Posts

Posted - 09/16/2015 :  13:48:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by realmeanmotorscutor

I like it more now than I had at first, too (as with most things Frank Black).



I can't rule out that happening for me down the road, it's happened before! It just seems unlikely.

cheers
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Arm Arm Arm
* Dog in the Sand *

1037 Posts

Posted - 09/16/2015 :  13:52:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I really enjoy the opening of Snakes, something different for them.
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