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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
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 Posted - 11/07/2011 : 11:22:47
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Originally posted by johnnyribcage
As a side note, there are plenty of FB fans who not only really like Honeycomb, but also consider it some of his best and most interesting work.
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johnnyribcage
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1301 Posts |
Posted - 11/07/2011 : 13:02:56
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Originally posted by darwin
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Originally posted by johnnyribcage
As a side note, there are plenty of FB fans who not only really like Honeycomb, but also consider it some of his best and most interesting work.
Really? That hasn't been the general opinion on this forum.
There are plenty who don't like it and plenty who do. I recall discussions with several people when it came out as to how good it was. In my local circle of friends, there are about 5 or 6 FB fans (all of whom I introduced to the music), and they all feel the same way I do. So of everyone I personally know who likes FB, 100% of them really like Honeycomb.
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11687 Posts |
Posted - 11/07/2011 : 13:31:58
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Originally posted by johnnyribcage
I can barely decipher your nonsense, but to come on here and say you do not intend to insult me, then directly proceed to call me "retarded" for stating that I enjoy an album by the artist on who's FAN PAGE we are chatting on, is truly asinine.
This was just fantastic.
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Jose Jones
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1758 Posts |
Posted - 11/07/2011 : 13:44:37
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tangent! Where The Wind Is Going is a good song. i like it a lot. but the FMRM version is truly lame. just pathetic. the catholics would have torn that shit up!
i wish frank recorded the HC and FMRM albs with that awesome band. they could do classy and rock n roll with some balls. those albums substantially lack balls. however, i love half of FMRM.
but i digress. who cares if his side projects aren't that great? as long as his proper solo albums CONTINUE to be outstanding.
it's funny that oldmanthreadstarter admits that he's really only disappointed with NSE (as far as proper solo albums go). so what's there REALLY to be disappointed with? grand duchy? who cares?! it's a SIDE project. so long as it's on the side.
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
5454 Posts |
Posted - 11/07/2011 : 15:11:49
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Originally posted by johnnyribcage
So of everyone I personally know who likes FB, 100% of them really like Honeycomb.
I wonder how onyone feels about that? |
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johnnyribcage
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1301 Posts |
Posted - 11/07/2011 : 15:42:30
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Originally posted by darwin
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Originally posted by johnnyribcage
So of everyone I personally know who likes FB, 100% of them really like Honeycomb.
I wonder how onyone feels about that?
I'm sure he feels that my friends are retarded as well.
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
Papua New Guinea
3302 Posts |
Posted - 11/07/2011 : 21:22:03
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Originally posted by darwin
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Originally posted by johnnyribcage
So of everyone I personally know who likes FB, 100% of them really like Honeycomb.
I wonder how onyone feels about that?
Many layers, many layers.
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
7443 Posts |
Posted - 11/07/2011 : 21:45:00
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Originally posted by Jose Jones
tangent! Where The Wind Is Going is a good song. i like it a lot. but the FMRM version is truly lame. just pathetic. the catholics would have torn that shit up!
i wish frank recorded the HC and FMRM albs with that awesome band. they could do classy and rock n roll with some balls. those albums substantially lack balls. however, i love half of FMRM.
That's more or less what I think of the Paley/Francis album. The songwriting is really good.
Denis
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johnnyribcage
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1301 Posts |
Posted - 11/09/2011 : 16:35:17
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Originally posted by trobrianders
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Originally posted by darwin
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Originally posted by johnnyribcage
So of everyone I personally know who likes FB, 100% of them really like Honeycomb.
I wonder how onyone feels about that?
Many layers, many layers.
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Ed is the hoo hoo
Indeed. Much to ponder...
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Active Duck
~ Abstract Brain ~
United Kingdom
435 Posts |
Posted - 11/10/2011 : 03:52:49
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| It would be interesting to see a poll of most loved songs since the end of the Catholics era. Despite anything I've written on here, there are definitely a whole lot of recent songs I love. |
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
7443 Posts |
Posted - 11/10/2011 : 05:25:16
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Post-Catholics top 5:
1) Don't Get Me Wrong
2) The Real El Rey
3) Threshold Apprehension
4) Meet Me At The Ghetto Gates
5) When They Come To Murder Me
In terms of songwriting, My Terrible Ways, Dead Man's Curve, Seal and Praise would be on the list.
Denis
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The Holiday Son
= Quote Accumulator =
France
2010 Posts |
Posted - 11/10/2011 : 09:42:42
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1) Dead Man's Curve
then :
Johnny Barleycorn
Seven Days
The Water
When They Come to Murder Me |
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Jose Jones
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1758 Posts |
Posted - 11/10/2011 : 12:57:31
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that's right, we're turning this thread into a "bask in the glory of this latter BFB period" series of lists and hyperbolic gushing.
top songs off the top of my head:
she's my way
radio lizards
i burn today
selkie bride
sing for joy
another velvet nightmare
honeycomb
if your poison gets you
fast man
you can't crucify yourself
wanderlust
don't cry that way
it's just not your moment
lolita
threshold apprehension
garbage heap
half man
bad news
oh how i wish i could stay
stars
astaroth
dead man's curve
corrina
six legged man
nonstoperotic
the water
ghost coming
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
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Mac E. Doobage
= Cult of Ray =
503 Posts |
Posted - 11/10/2011 : 16:25:01
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In the time of my ruin
Elijah |
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johnnyribcage
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1301 Posts |
Posted - 11/10/2011 : 16:45:04
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My goodness, I really have too many to list. A much much much shorter list would be the songs I'm not thrilled with.
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <
South Sandwich Islands
4204 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2011 : 05:34:26
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Freebird
China Grove
Smoke on the Water
Fool for the City
Fox on the Run Stranglehold |
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onyone
- FB Fan -
Yugoslavia
96 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2011 : 19:00:16
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Originally posted by johnnyribcage
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Originally posted by darwin
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Originally posted by johnnyribcage
So of everyone I personally know who likes FB, 100% of them really like Honeycomb.
I wonder how onyone feels about that?
I'm sure he feels that my friends are retarded as well.
Ayerigvlagabriga-Raraaaargh!-Rumbahl-Jumbahl!
If friend like Honeycomb then probably also yes. Not want to sound offensive (how do you say?) but yes, your friend, if like Honeycomb all of your friend are probably (how you say) retarded. Moron? Sorry my English not good. I apologize
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johnnyribcage
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1301 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2011 : 20:19:16
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Originally posted by onyone
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Originally posted by johnnyribcage
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Originally posted by darwin
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Originally posted by johnnyribcage
So of everyone I personally know who likes FB, 100% of them really like Honeycomb.
I wonder how onyone feels about that?
I'm sure he feels that my friends are retarded as well.
Ayerigvlagabriga-Raraaaargh!-Rumbahl-Jumbahl!
If friend like Honeycomb then probably also yes. Not want to sound offensive (how do you say?) but yes, your friend, if like Honeycomb all of your friend are probably (how you say) retarded. Moron? Sorry my English not good. I apologize
LOL now you're just being a goofball! 
Ayerigvlagabriga-Raraaaargh!-Rumbahl-Jumbahl! |
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
Papua New Guinea
3302 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2011 : 21:11:00
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Onyone is either floop or Johnny Weismuller. I can't decide which.
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11687 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2011 : 21:49:21
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Not Floop.
"Now you're officially my woman. Kudos. I can't say I don't envy you." |
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Jose Jones
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1758 Posts |
Posted - 11/12/2011 : 02:52:36
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then johnny weismuller it is.
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Llamadance
> Teenager of the Year <
United Kingdom
2543 Posts |
Posted - 11/12/2011 : 06:01:32
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Honeycomb was good at the time, but I never go back to listen to it.
FMRM was awful. I even forced myself to listen and cringed all the way through. Maybe a couple of good tracks, but it really is the nadir of his career.
I don't think I've given The Golem enough of a listen to fully appreciate it, which is daft really. NSE and SvnFngrs both had some great tracks on them. Bluefinger was great.
Favourite post Catholic tracks?
When They Come To Murder Me
Dead Man's Curve (live)
Corrina
Discotheque 36
She's My Way
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
Papua New Guinea
3302 Posts |
Posted - 11/12/2011 : 06:13:36
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Originally posted by johnnyribcage
LOL now you're just being a goofball!
Ayerigvlagabriga-Raraaaargh!-Rumbahl-Jumbahl!
So let me get this straight. Onyone is basically saying, "Me goofball, you retarded".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwHWbsvgQUE
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Ziggy
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
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Posted - 11/12/2011 : 11:02:42
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The Golem was pretty good. 'Svn Fngrs' is my favourite out of the last few years, I think.
I can't remember when I listened to 'Honeycomb' or 'Fastman Raiderman' last. There were some very good songs on both, and some rather forgettable tracks too. It's a shame really... many great musicians, but the arrangements and production really show up the fact that the albums were made in a short space of time.
The big factor is the Pixies reunion. It's actually taken up quite a lot of FB's time. Plus I guess it's been fairly lucrative (long overdue), which must have taken the pressure off his own output. So he can probably afford to be a bit more playful than before. |
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Brank_Flack
* Dog in the Sand *
Canada
1019 Posts |
Posted - 11/12/2011 : 12:55:13
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I also wouldn't say I'm disappointed with his recent work, Bluefinger and Svn Fngrs are two of my favourite FB albums, and the Golem and NSE both have many great songs. I would say that apart from the Dog in the Sand/Black Letter Days/Show Me Your Tears run, the post (and including) bluefinger era is my favourite FB era since after Teenager. i enjoy the new Black Francis persona and this many of the songs released during this period are among his best work.
I'll also attempt a top 5:
Threshold
Don't Get Me Wrong
Six Legged Man
Bad News
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Sam
= Cult of Ray =
Ireland
514 Posts |
Posted - 11/15/2011 : 03:59:08
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I think FBF will be back with a blinding record soon. NSE did nothing for me, Golem made me very happy. Hang around, there's something for everyone.
Lonesome Fetter
How i wish i could stay
Your mouth into mine
Demon Girl
Radio Lizards - acapella version
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velvety
= Cult of Ray =
Portugal
536 Posts |
Posted - 11/15/2011 : 12:29:56
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'Radio Lizards - acapella' version??? Could someone make this available or is it part of single FB released?
As for the topic at hand, I'd agree with Brank_Frank, the post (including) Bluefinger era is my favourite FB era since TOTY. Bluefinger, The Golem and too a lesser extent, NSE, are records that I keep coming back to.
But then, I never was a big Catholics fan, like most of you seem to be. Great live band, but apart from Dog in the Sand, those albums were always too hit or miss. Kind of like FM/RM, but with more nerve. |
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Sam
= Cult of Ray =
Ireland
514 Posts |
Posted - 11/15/2011 : 22:37:53
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johnnyribcage
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1301 Posts |
Posted - 11/16/2011 : 13:52:34
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Originally posted by Sam
Hi Velvety - i'm referring to the Christmass version. Where the only instrumentation is provided by vocals.
Hell I didn't know there was another version besides the Christmass one.
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Sam
= Cult of Ray =
Ireland
514 Posts |
Posted - 11/16/2011 : 21:30:59
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Yep - there is a version on one of the podcasts which is guitar based. Cool as well but i prefer the Christmass one.
If you have the christmass dvd you can hear the other version playing at the title screen. |
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gotmeamovie
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Posted - 11/19/2011 : 10:21:04
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i think his work is always stellar, but i was listening to bossanova last night, and well those songs make you feel something outside of your body, i dont think he has written any songs like that since christmass. i dunno nse feels, warmed over?
dead mans curve is about a million times better on christmass
"I could take a walk and really wonder, really wonder" |
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oldmandavid
- FB Fan -
USA
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Posted - 12/04/2011 : 11:14:06
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Originally posted by gotmeamovie
i think his work is always stellar, but i was listening to bossanova last night, and well those songs make you feel something outside of your body, i dont think he has written any songs like that since christmass. i dunno nse feels, warmed over?
dead mans curve is about a million times better on christmass
"I could take a walk and really wonder, really wonder"
I agree, the Christmas version of deadman's curve has yet to be topped. It's awesome and it's the best. Something was definitely lost when it was done with the electric guitar. |
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theonecontender
= Cult of Ray =
Canada
565 Posts |
Posted - 12/12/2011 : 04:05:30
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Originally posted by johnnyribcage
I think you're off base with the Violet comments however, and they are a little rude considering the man himself reads this blog.
I'm jumping in here a little late, but I just wanted to remind you that this is a fan board. The OP (and anyone else for that matter) should be able to write their opinions about FB and his music without feeling the need to appease the man.
But back to the topic at hand.. I often have a negative feeling about FB's tunes when they first come out, and then warm to them overtime. I think it comes with the superfan territory (sorry, I couldn't bring myself to use an umlaut). But ultimately, it varies with each releases' songwriting, recording quality, my general mood, and a bunch of other things.
Out of the newer recordings, I really dig seven fingers and golem. I think I would like Paley & Francis a whole lot more if it weren't for the production value (and to be honest, I find Spooner Oldham's keys to be extremely distracting in places). If anyone has some good recording of this material live, it would be appreciated.
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johnnyribcage
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1301 Posts |
Posted - 12/12/2011 : 19:34:46
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Originally posted by theonecontender
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Originally posted by johnnyribcage
I think you're off base with the Violet comments however, and they are a little rude considering the man himself reads this blog.
I'm jumping in here a little late, but I just wanted to remind you that this is a fan board. The OP (and anyone else for that matter) should be able to write their opinions about FB and his music without feeling the need to appease the man.
And might I remind you that I too am allowed to write my opinion, which I did. Might I also remind you that I did not in any way suggest that the OP's opinion was without merit, only that I disagreed and thought the Yoko comparison was a little harsh. I can voice my opinions without feeling the need to appease your particular sensibilities. Similar to the Grammer Police, many people insist on seeking opportunities to explain to others, often strangers, the apparently complex and subtle concept of opinions.
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