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I guess if you refuse to do any research on it, it's destined to remain so. To you anyway.
That won't deter me from posting in it. This thread is here to stay!
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Posted - 08/05/2007 : 08:31:04
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Originally posted by Dallas
my bad, but, it is good text...
"The downright absurd conspiracy story: The government told many reporters to report something they would have reported anyway after the building collapsed.
A little critical thinking is all that's needed to debunk this nonsense. Why in the world would they make an already unbelievably massive conspiracy into one involving reporters who would LOVE a scoop like that? "Sept. 9, 2001 - EXCLUSIVE BREAKING NEWS! Government about to murder thousands for oil! We have the script!" Can you imagine the job offerings after a scoop like that? Can you say Pulitzer prize? What a hero! Who would pass that up to help a shadowy government commit the mass murder of Americans? "
You're the one that's absurd. We are little more than cattle to these folks. Stop thinking so highly of yourself American. You think your plastic flags will save you from evil? Here's your benevolent government spreading joy thoughout this great land.
Project Shad:
http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=operation+shad&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
MKULTRA:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=safari&rls=en&q=MK+Ultra&btnG=Search
US Eugenics program(ran until 1977 in North Carolina):
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=safari&rls=en&q=North+carolina+eugenics&btnG=Search
The eugenics movement of the early twentieth century grew out of the research and writings of the English scientist, Sir Francis Galton (1822-1911), whose interests included psychology, genetics and statistics. Among Galton's beliefs was the idea that government intervention could help promote the biological improvement of humans.
As part of the movement many states, including North Carolina, enacted laws that allowed sterilization of the "mentally diseased, feeble minded or epileptic." North Carolina's first sterilization law was enacted in 1929. Four years later the General Assembly created the Eugenics Board to review sterilization cases. Subsequently renamed the Eugenics Commission, it was abolished in 1977.
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Posted - 08/05/2007 : 15:48:01
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Originally posted by Dallas
Here is the bldg 7 myth debunked thoroughly.
It covers the basics on obliterating the controlled demolition myth, but even better, exposes how the mythmakers purposely leave out information they obviously have to concoct a lie.
http://www.debunking911.com/pull.htm
Yeah, If you're a brainwashed retard.
Propaganda site says:
"Conspiracy theorists say World Trade Center 7 is the best proof for controlled demolition because it wasn't hit by airliners and only had a few fires. They also claim that there was a confession from the building owner who said he "pulled" it. But this is deceptive because while building 7 wasn't hit by an airliner, it was hit by the large perimeter columns of the Tower collapse. It was 400 ft away but the towers were more than 1300 ft tall. As the tower peeled open, it easily tilted over to reach building 7. Below is evidence showing that conspiracy theorists are wrong."
Okay, in this first paragraph they leave a whole lot of things out. This is the same tactic used in the Popular Mechanics piece. First off, there were bombs in the buildings. Period. The center column is blown out and the building collapses in seven seconds into a fairly neat pile in it's own basement. That is what happened. Demolition teams work very hard to make sure that happens. That doesn't just happen on it own. Yes, it was hit by debris from the towers. So were all the other buildings surrounding the towers. Most much more severely than WTC7. But, only WTC7 fell (in seven seconds into it's own footprint just like in demolition). Why? Because it was also leased by Larry Silverstien (from David Rockefellor) and had a big fat terrorist attack insurance policy on it. The other buildings were not leased by Silverstein and did not have the insurance policy. If they had been I'm sure they would have fallen too. Another thing is that all of the towers that fell had pools of molten metal in their basements that burned at over 1500 degrees for weeks afterward. That is caused by Thermite but more specifcally in this case "Thermate." Thermate is a patented form of thermite that (I believe only) demolition companies use. This has been conclusively proven via electron microscope by fromer BYU physicist Dr Stephen Jones. Again people, I invite you to do a little homework on this. Here's a brief video that will show you what a crock this website is: WTC7: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2073592843640256739&q=WTC7%3A+The+Smoking+Gun+of+9%2F11 Dr Stephen Jones' paper: http://www.google.com/search?tab=nw&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&ned=us&q=dr%20stephen%20jones%20paper 911 Mysteries: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7627261092341180270&q=911mysteries&pr=goog-sl
Propaganda site says: "As you can see from the graphic below, all the buildings just as far away from both towers as WTC7 were hit. The others were either very short buildings which didn't have to support a massive load above or had no fire. Only Building 7 had unfought fires and the massive load of 40 stories above them."
This is ridiculous. I'm not sure why I'm even bothering with this drivel. At no time in history before or since has a steel building collpased do to fire. The only one that have have been on september 11 and were leased by Larry Silverstein. The towers were an asbestous nightmare coating billions to rty to clean and were also considered an eyesore their tenancy was at something like 57 percent and they were extremely expensive to operate. They had to pump oxygen into them for one thing. They accomplished two things on that day; they demolished some ugly, old asbestos ridden buidlings to make way for a new WTC and second they scared the hell out of the world and started this fake war on terror which is really a plan for global domination
Dallas, I'm disappointed in you. You link this simpleton bullshit which reveals to me that you've obviously not looked at a single link I've provided. Read Dr. Jones paper(linked above). Explain to me the thermate/pools of molten metal in the basement of WTC7(no plane) and the others. Eplain to me the bombs and please don't say the generators in the basement. What do planes 80 plus stories up have to do with diesel generators in the basement. I've seen people throw lit cigarrettes into puddles of diesel and they go out. Why was WTC 7 not even mentioned in the the commision report? No seriously why? If this ding-a-ling with a website has all the answers how come they could not be bothered? Explain to me what you people are so afraid of. Any of you doubting this please explain to me why you refuse to look at any of the evidence but continue waste days arguing with me over this. It's exactly like the flat earth theory. Here I am telling you it's round and why, but all of you are too ingrained in flat earth thiery to bother even looking at the evidence.
All this site does is hand pick a few things make it seem like that's all we have to go on and then try to lamely debunk them. You are being lied to people!
I'm looking through the rest here. There is a first responder speaking of "white smoke" and the building starting to tilt or something. and it's going to fall. Hello? Thermate causes white smoke. Thermate is cutting the beams (white smoke) and the building is walking off it's foundation (tilting) I'll debunk more of this drivel later.
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Posted - 08/05/2007 : 16:02:09
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Bothering with this website you posted is complete a joke. It's for the sheep that hear this "conspiracy theory" and go looking for something to disprove it without ever looking at what may prove it. Popular Mechanics is a great example. Owned by the Hearst corporation. Yellow jouranlism you fools.
Propaganda site says: "Conspiracy theorists like to say "Some Arabs with box cutters couldn't have pulled this off." Let's forget for a minute how racist that statement is. (Arabs can do anything Americans can do) Let's also imagine that the hijackers didn't make it clear they had a bomb as well as the box cutters. The fact is they were the perfect ones to pull this off. He went to school for civil engineering at a time when the towers were being built. America thought enough of him to use him to hold off the USSR in Afghanistan. Most of the hijackers have college educations. Some had flight experience and trained with simulators."
Hanni Hanjour(sp) was not allowed to fly a single engine cessna when he showed up to flight school let alone be able to fly a 767. He was deemed completely incompetent. He was like the poor asian guy that just gets to America and now has to learn to drive something other than a bike. If Hanjour was involved at all, it was at the compacity of a unwitting patsy you fool. These guys worked for the government. They took part in training exercises. If they were on these planes that day they believed they were there for part of a training exercise. Except the training exercise suddenly goes real time and planes a remotely crashed into buildings. Whoever was inside would have been helpless victims. The official flight lists contained no arab names by the way.
All of the air traffic controllers thought a military plane had hit the pentagon. Experienced 767 pilots have stated the supposed plane used to hit the pentagon could not handle the manuvers that it was put through. Let alone the pilots surviving the G's the manuever would have created. How does everything get reduced to dust but they find the hijackers passport (at ground zero) unscathed? Steam and iron and hots spots and every other bullshit thing your site refers to but here lies this passpot that some fed happened to find.
These highjakers would have had to have flown these planes without the use of any of the instruments. For them to find the New York let alone the towers is impossible. Since when coiuld people successfully make cellphone calls from 10,000 feet? or whatever the hell it was. Whatever height they were at the cell phone calls were proven to be impossible to make.
Big Joke. This is a government propaganda website. No doubt. Satisfactory only to the ignorant
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Posted - 08/05/2007 : 16:18:31
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"The reaction between IRON AND STEAM is also very EXOTHERMIC and fast at temperatures above 400 deg C. This reaction produces Fe3O4 AND HYDROGEN. It is the classic example of a REVERSIBLE REACTION studied in Chemistry labs at high school. But believe it or not, back at the turn of the century, the reaction of iron and steam was used as an industrial process for the manufacture of hydrogen.
I think iron and steam could have reacted in this way (at least for a while) and generated a lot of heat. What is more, the hydrogen released would have been converted back to water by reaction with oxygen, thereby generating even more heat. In this case spraying water on the rubble pile was like adding fuel to a fire! I think someone should spray some water on this steaming pile of bullshit
Now add in gypsum reactions with H2 and CO and we have a great source of SO2 and/or H2S to sulfide the steel!
Perhaps the endless spraying of water on the rubble pile was not such a good idea!
In the usual lab experiment on the reversible reaction of iron and "steam", nitrogen (or some inert gas) is bubbled through water to create a gas stream saturated with water vapor at room temperature. This gas is then allowed to flow into a glass tube about 1 meter long containing iron in an inert boat at its center. This assembly is heated in a tube furnace to some desired temperature, say 500 deg C. The hydrogen/ nitrogen gas mixture is collected at the outlet of the tube furnace.
In the industrial process the feed gas might also be "water gas" which is a mixture of CO and water vapor. The outlet gas contains mostly H2 and CO2.
I am sure there was plenty of water vapor AND oxygen in the void spaces in the rubble pile. This is the "steam" I am referring to.
Please remember that the recovered pieces of structural steel were heavily OXIDIZED as well as sulfided. The most important oxidizing agents available in the rubble pile were obviously O2 and H2O.
The rubble pile was not only inhomogeneous with regard to its composition, it was inhomogeneous with regard to its temperature. This was due to localized chemical reactions. Such reactions were capable of generating high temperatures in these localized hot spots.
The demolitionists much beloved thermite is a good example, [BUT NOT THE ONLY EXAMPLE. AND THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO PROOF WHATSOEVER THAT THERMITE, THERMATE, SOL-GEL NANO-THERMITE WAS EVER PRESENT AT THE WTC SITE!!!!!!"
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For some reason I'm still skimming through this detritus. "Perhaps the endless spraying of water on the pile was not such a good idea." "I think iron and steam could have reacted this way" Who the fuck wrote this? Honestly? It sopunds like this guy watched a couple episodes of Mr. Wizard and now that makes him qualified. This site has all the answers for you? It's for simpletons. It very likely is a government website. Trying very lamely to keep the lie afloat.
Dr. Stephen Jones has recently proven conclusively that "Thermate" was used in the destruction of the towers. The chemical signature for thermate has been identified using elctron microscpe in dust recovered from the area.
9/11 Debunkers Hide From Slam Dunk Evidence Of Controlled Demolition
Electron microscope analysis of steel spheres from WTC site proves thermate, proves collapse of twin towers was an act of deliberate arson
http://www.infowars.com/articles/sept11/911_debunkers_hide_from_slam_dunk_evidence_of_controlled_demolition.htm
How come your bullshit website isn't showing this picture? Do some research you clown!
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/wtc_charges.html
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Posted - 08/06/2007 : 21:28:30
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And again with the complete silence. Like a bunch of scared rabbits. Maybe I'm hanging in the wrong forum. I thought Frank fans were different.
Listen kids, Do you see the photo above? Do you see the GIANT steel beam with the angel cut that looks as though it was done with a torch? See the molten metal? This is what you get after cutter(shape) charges do their job. Thermate cuts through steel like a hot knife to butter. The beams are initially cut in the basement and the building basically walks off it's foundation and the demolition process starts.
Take a look. You may have to take your heads out of your asses first but here it is.
This is a "cutter charge" being set up prior to detonation. Notice the angle?
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Posted - 08/07/2007 : 09:00:11
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http://www.prisonplanet.com/Pages/Sept05/060905brainwashed.htm
Former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury on New Orleans: "Americans Are Being Brainwashed"
Mentality is "like that of the brown shirts that followed Hitler"
Steve Watson/Alex Jones | September 6 2005
Paul Craig Roberts has held a number of academic appointments and has contributed to numerous scholarly publications. He served as Assistant Secretary of the Treasury in the Regan administration.
Roberts followed up his commentary Impeach Bush Now, Before More Die with an interview on The Alex Jones show on Monday 5th September 2005. The former Assistant Secretary had noted of the New Orleans disaster "If terrorists had achieved this result, it would rank as the greatest terrorist success in history." and went on to spell out how the disaster was left to happen. He succeeded these comments on Monday by laying out the facts again and asserting that the Federal government has been criminally negligent and should be held up to accountability.
Mr Roberts believed that such comments would bring him much criticism from so called Patriots (the flag waving kind), yet he was surprised at the amount of people who agreed and even informed him that it was far worse then what he'd gone on record with.
Roberts reviewed the way in which the federal government had slashed funding for flood prevention schemes and pumped everything into the war in Iraq and the war on Terror. He also went on to admit that the military was turning on the people, treating them as subjects, overturning the Posse Comitatus Act.
Roberts agreed that FEMA has deliberately withheld aid, and cut emergency communication lines, and automatically made the crisis look worse in order to empower the image of a police state emerging to "save the day". He even insinuated that the shoot to kill policy was part of the overall operation in order get an awful precedence set to aid the military industrial complex takeover of America.
"The power of the Federal Government is now greater than at any time, it'll never go back and the Posse Comitatus Act has been eroding ever since it was passed in 1878..." Roberts asserted.
Roberts further commented "There is no excuse for this, we have never had in our history the federal government take a week to respond to a disaster...this is the first time ever that the help was not mobilized in advance. The proper procedure is that everything is mobilized and ready to go"
Mr Roberts commented that the American people are being "brainwashed" and no longer believe what the founding fathers said over and over, that your worst enemy is always your own government and never confuse Patriotism with support for the government. He asserted that the mentality is "like that of the brown shirts that followed Hitler" and that the government is deadly dangerous, "you can't let the military take over policing".
On the question of where this is all leading and what the government is gearing up for, Mr Roberts suggested that "It does look like there is a push coming from inside the bowels of the police authorities and it seems to be independent of whoever the President is or who or whatever party is in office. It just gets worse and it's hard to say that it's Bush doing it, he may not even know what's going on... it's enough for us to say that New Orleans demonstrated massive federal incompetence, if it were laid on private people would be tantamount to criminal negligence... some kind of accountability has to be exercised"
The private corporations own and run everything and are turning America into a third world police state, when questioned as to how we can stop this Mr Roberts stated:
"The longer it goes on it will be harder and harder to stop...It depends on how much resistance or what kind of resistance they meet, but I think one thing we can do is demand accountability for this failure, do not buy the Karl Rove lie that this was a failure of State and Local Government"
Roberts urged listeners to look at the Patriot Act, which suspends Habeas Corpus, where they can now suspend you indefinitely, a massive erosion of civil liberties. He was quick to point out though that we should not assign the government omnipotence, we can make people aware of the situation and try to explain illogical actions that have no reasonable explanation.
Roberts read out an email from an emergency management official who said that the feds are involved in everything they do, everything has to be approved by the feds. FEMA sets the table, Mr Roberts suggested, every major agency in New Orleans has been federalized, the State and Local officials have no authority.
"They might screw up occasionally but why is it that NOTHING that was supposed to be done was done?" Roberts questioned.
"The whole problem is...failure, massive unacceptable failure, criminal negligence... it has caused the US it's largest and most strategic international Port through which 25% of all our oil and gas comes... look at the price of gasoline, this is a tremendous impact... I don't see how a recession can be avoided... We have lost our most influential port through what appears to be INTENTIONAL incompetence, it's very hard to understand"
Roberts went on to stress that this event is WORSE than 9/11 because it was announced days ahead of the event and contingency plans were intentionally ignored. The officials on the scene have said there was a complete stand down of the government and intentional incompetence. Furthermore they did nothing ON PURPOSE in order to provoke the resulting chaos and anarchy so they could say "look how out of control everything is - we have to have limits on freedom and troops on the streets."
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Posted - 08/07/2007 : 09:07:15
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More power elite benevolence for the government nipple sucking slaves. Not all over the news. Strange.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=anthrax+from+the+government%3F&btnG=Google+Search
Anthrax Coverup: A Government Insider Speaks Out
Submitted by davidswanson on Tue, 2007-07-03 20:08. Media
By Steve Watson
Is it possible that the anthrax attacks were launched from within our own government? A former Bush 1 advisor thinks it is.
Francis A. Boyle, an international law expert who worked under the first Bush Administration as a bioweapons advisor in the 1980s, has said that he is convinced the October 2001 anthrax attacks that killed five people were perpetrated and covered up by criminal elements of the U.S. government. The motive: to foment a police state by killing off and intimidating opposition to post-9/11 legislation such as the USA PATRIOT Act and the later Military Commissions Act.
"After the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, the Bush Administration tried to ram the USA PATRIOT Act through Congress," Boyle said in a radio interview with Austin-based talk-show host Alex Jones. "That would have set up a police state.
"Senators Tom Daschle (D-South Dakota) and Patrick Leahy (D-Vermont)
were holding it up because they realized what this would lead to. The
first draft of the PATRIOT Act would have suspended the writ of habeas
corpus [which protects citizens from unlawful imprisonment and
guarantees due process of law]. Then all of a sudden, out of nowhere,
come these anthrax attacks."
"At the time I myself did not know precisely what was going on, either
with respect to September 11 or the anthrax attacks, but then the New
York Times revealed the technology behind the letter to Senator
Daschle. [The anthrax used was] a trillion spores per gram, [refined
with] special electro-static treatment. This is superweapons-grade
anthrax that even the United States government, in its openly
proclaimed programs, had never developed before. So it was obvious to
me that this was from a U.S. government lab. There is nowhere else you
could have gotten that."
Boyle's assessment was based on his years of expertise regarding
America's bioweapons programs. He was responsible for drafting the
Biological Weapons Anti-Terrorism Act of 1989 that was passed
unanimously by both houses of Congress and signed into law by President
George H.W. Bush.
After realizing that the anthrax attacks looked like a domestic job,
Boyle called a high-level official in the FBI who deals with terrorism
and counterterrorism, Marion "Spike" Bowman. Boyle and Bowman had met
at a terrorism conference at the University of Michigan Law School.
Boyle told Bowman that the only people who would have the capability to
carry out the attacks were individuals working on U.S. government
anthrax programs with access to a high-level biosafety lab. Boyle gave
Bowman a full list of names of scientists, contractors and labs
conducting anthrax work for the U.S. government and military.
Bowman then informed Boyle that the FBI was working with Fort Detrick
on the matter. Boyle expressed his view that Fort Detrick could be the
main problem. As widely reported in 2002 publications, notably the New
Scientist, the anthrax strain used in the attacks was officially
assessed as "military grade."
"Soon after I informed Bowman of this information, the FBI authorized
the destruction of the Ames cultural anthrax database," the professor
said. The Ames strain turned out to be the same strain as the spores
used in the attacks.
The alleged destruction of the anthrax culture collection at Ames,
Iowa, from which the Fort Detrick lab got its pathogens, was blatant
destruction of evidence. It meant that there was no way of finding out
which strain was sent to whom to develop the larger breed of anthrax
used in the attacks. The trail of genetic evidence would have led
directly back to a secret government biowarfare program.
"Clearly, for the FBI to have authorized this was obstruction of
justice, a federal crime," said Boyle. "That collection should have
been preserved and protected as evidence. That's the DNA, the
fingerprints right there. It later came out, of course, that this was
Ames strain anthrax that was behind the Daschle and Leahy letters."
At that point, recounted Boyle, it became very clear to him that there
was a coverup underway. He later discovered, while reading David Ray
Griffin's book on the 9/11 attacks, The New Pearl Harbor, that Bowman
was the same FBI agent who allegedly sabotaged the FISA warrant for
access to [convicted co-conspirator] Zacharias Moussaoui's computer
prior to 9/11. Moussaoui's computer contained information that could
have helped prevent the attacks on the World Trade Center and the
Pentagon.
In 2003, Bowman was promoted and given the Presidential Rank Award by
FBI Director Robert S. Mueller. Senator Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) wrote a
letter to Mueller, chastising the organization for granting such an
honor to an agent who had so obviously compromised America's security.
During the anthrax scare, the House of Representatives was officially
shut down for the first time in the history of the republic. Once
opposition from Leahy and Daschle evaporated in the wake of the
attempts on their lives, the USA PATRIOT Act was rammed through.
Testimony by Representative Ron Paul (R-Texas) revealed that most
members of Congress were compelled to vote for the bill without even
reading it.
"They were going to move to suspend the writ of habeas corpus, which is
all that really separates us from a police state," Boyle said. "And
that is what they have done now with respect to enemy combatants [in
the Military Commissions Act of 2006]." Boyle added that lawmakers are
now arguing that Amendment XIV, which guarantees due process of law to
all Americans, does not mean what it has been taken to mean and that,
under the Military Commissions Act, any U.S. citizen can be stripped of
citizenship and be labeled an enemy combatant.
Continued Boyle: "In other words, they have taken the position that at
some point in time, if they want to, they can unilaterally round up
United States native-born citizens, as they did for Japanese-Americans
in World War II, and stick us into concentration camps." Boyle asserted
that top officials, such as White House legal advisor John Yoo and
former Assistant Attorney General Jack Goldsmith (now a professor at
Harvard Law School), are pushing for the legalization of torture as
well.
"The Nazis did the exact same thing," said Boyle. "They had their
lawyers infiltrating law schools. Carl Schmidt was the worst, and he
was the mentor to Leo Strauss, the [ideological] founder of the
neoconservatives. So the same phenomenon that started in Nazi Germany
is happening here, and I exaggerate not. We could all be tortured; we
could all be treated this way."
Boyle stressed that it is vital to keep up the pressure on Senator
Leahy, who now chairs the Senate Judiciary Committee, giving him
subpoena power. Since Leahy was himself a target, he may have
sufficient motivation to get to the bottom of the attacks. The FBI and
the Justice Department have so far refused full disclosure to Congress.
In addition to his credentials as a government advisor, Boyle also
holds a doctorate of law magna cum laude and a Ph.D. in political
science, both from Harvard University. He teaches international law at
the University of Illinois at Champaign-Urbana. Boyle also served on
the Board of Directors of Amnesty International (1988-92) and
represented Bosnia-Herzegovina at the World Court.
Boyle alleged that due to his activities as a lawyer, he was
interrogated by an agent from the CIA/FBI Joint Terrorism Task Force in
the summer of 2004. The agent tried to recruit him as an informant to
provide the FBI with information on his Arab and Muslim clients. When
he refused, according to Boyle, the FBI placed him on the government's
terrorism watch lists.
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so, do you think all the so-called terrorist attacks are actually the work of the US government?
No, I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is one nation under God George Bush snr |
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WTF? I know you're kidding but I'll answer anyway. Yes! To rally the world behind the false "war on terror." Give carte blanche to take away our civl liberties, invade countries, make torture cool etc. etc..
Okay, sorry, let me get a little deeper on that. I feel there are higher powers controlling the entire world and they can use false flag terror to scare people into accepting their own enslavement. Incrementally of course. These powers have no party lines. Clinton was in power when the Oklahoma federal building was bombed.
Watch the first part of this video for the proof on that being an inside job: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6517776133137328105&q=911+the+road+to+tyranny&total=118&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0
That was supposedly to get some anti-terror legislation bill passed. A "Patriot act lite" if you will. Also to get more gun control implemented.
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Posted - 08/07/2007 : 10:27:46
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I want you to see how controlled the media is. Listen to them talk about who supposedly won the debates this week. I can assure you it won't be Ron Paul.
But in actuality...
Quick copy and paste job here. Look into it for yourself if you doubt it.
Now that the debate's over, it's time to consider the winners and losers.
Who do you think won the Republican debate?
Ron Paul
36,573
Mitt Romney
4,478
Nobody won. I'm voting Democratic.
3,365
Rudy Giuliani
3,185
Nobody. I'm waiting for Fred Thompson or Newt Gingrich to enter the race.
2,880
Mike Huckabee
2,651
Sam Brownback
1,043
Tom Tancredo
757
Tommy Thompson
755
John McCain
727
Duncan Hunter
419
Total Vote: 56,833
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The King Of Karaoke
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Posted - 08/07/2007 : 11:01:36
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Originally posted by PixieSteve
you must bear in mind that online only polls don't necessarily reflect reality.
"Idiot" is just her sig.
I undersrand but you must bear in mind that the TV doesn not reflect reality. He wins all of their polls and they rarely mention his name unless it's to try and discredit him. The Fox Poll for example which was designed as tamper proof (because they knew he was going to dominate) had him winning through out then at the end they placed him second. They never even mentioned his name during the weeks that followed. We have no control. Two party system and we are forced to accept only two choices turd salad or turd sandwhich.
That being said I feel Hilary is going to win so it doesn't realay matter what we debate. Hillary will be better than Bush or Romney or whomever but the plan for world government will continue. We need to have control of the middleast oil so we can survive the "Peak Oil" crises." Look at our country as a company and look at the thousands killed as layoffs. The plan is genius and from a capitalist stand point completely necessary.
Who here feels the war in Iraq is going bad? Look at it instead as a plan to possess energy reserves. Constant turmoil gives us a reason to stay. They do not want democracy they want to control that part of the region. They want those people out of the way.
The Iraq war is going along as planned. These guys are genius and it has nothing to do with Bush.
Sorry, genius but still human. Oopsy! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFuUGEZ39g8
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> Teenager of the Year <
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Posted - 08/07/2007 : 11:38:57
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How come these guys can say it and they go platinum, but I say it and I'm the weirdo?
What do you think this whole album is about? Some neighbor of his that doesn't mow his lawn?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=_FdF1dDlW-A
Spoken: crank the music up
Bring that shit in! uggh!
Yeah, the movements in motion with mass militant poetry
Now check this out...uggh!
In the right light, study becomes insight
But the system that dissed us
Teaches us to read and write
So called facts are fraud
They want us to allege and pledge
And bow down to their god
Lost the culture, the culture lost
Spun our minds and through time
Ignorance has taken over
Yo, we gotta take the power back!
Bam! heres the plan
Motherfuck uncle sam
Step back, I know who I am
Raise up your ear, Ill drop the style and clear
Its the beats and the lyrics they fear
The rage is relentless
We need a movement with a quickness
You are the witness of change
And to counteract
We gotta take the power back
Yeah, we gotta take the power back
Come on, come on!
We gotta take the power back
The present curriculum
I put my fist in em
Eurocentric every last one of em
See right through the red, white and blue disguise
With lecture I puncture the structure of lies
Installed in our minds and attempting
To hold us back
Weve got to take it back
cause holes in our spirit causin tears and fears
One-sided stories for years and years and years
Im inferior? whos inferior?
Yea, we need to check the interior
Of the system that cares about only one culture
And that is why
We gotta take the power back
Yeah, we gotta take the power back
Come on, come on!
We gotta take the power back
Hey yo check, were gonna have to break it, break it, break it down
Awww shit!
Uggh!
And like this...uggh!
Come on, yeah! bring it back the other way!
The teacher stands in front of the class
But the lesson plan he cant recall
The students eyes dont perceive the lies
Bouning off every fucking wall
His composure is well kept
I guess he fears playing the fool
The complacent students sit and listen to some of that
Bullshit that he learned in school
Europe aint my rope to swing on
Cant learn a thing from it
Yet we hang from it
Gotta get it, gotta get it together then
Like the motherfuckin weathermen
To expose and close the doors on those who try
To strangle and mangle the truth
cause the circle of hatred continues unless we react
We gotta take the power back
Yeah, we gotta take the power back
Come on, come on!
We gotta take the power back
No more lies (8 times, building to a crescendo)
Uggh!
Yeah!
Take it back joe
Take it back, a-take it back
A-take it back joe, come on!
Take it back joe
Take it back, a-take it back
A-take it back joe, come on!
Uggh!
Yeah!
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The King Of Karaoke
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
3759 Posts |
Posted - 08/07/2007 : 11:57:23
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"Bullet in your head" - Message? turn your tv off. I can go through the whole album here, if you like.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=jwbesCuzBTE
This time the bullet cold rocked ya
A yellow ribbon instead of a swastika
Nothin proper about ya propaganda
Fools follow rules when the set commands ya
Said it was blue
When ya blood was red
Thats how ya got a bullet blasted through ya head
Blasted through ya head
Blasted through ya head
I give a shout out to the living dead
Who stood and watched as the feds cold centralised?
So serene on the screen
You was mesmerised
Cellular phones soundin a death tone
Corporations cold
Turn ya to stone before ya realise
They load the clip in omnicolour
Said they pack the 9, they fire it at prime time
The sleeping gas, every home was like alcatraz
And mutha fuckas lost their minds
Just victims of the in-house drive-by
They say jump, you say how high
Yeah
Just victims of the in-house drive-by
They say jump, you say how high
Run it!
(guitar solo)
Just victims of the in-house drive-by
They say jump, you say how high
Just victims of the in-house drive-by
They say jump, you say how high
Check-a, check-a, check it out
They load the clip in omnicolour
Said they pack the 9, they fire it at prime time
The sleeping gas, every home was like alcatraz
And mutha fuckas lost their minds
No escape from the mass mind rape
Play it again jack and then rewind the tape
And then play it again and again and again
Until ya mind is locked in
Believin all the lies that theyre tellin ya
Buyin all the products that theyre sellin ya
They say jump and ya say how high
Ya brain-dead
Ya gotta fuckin bullet in ya head
Just victims of the in-house drive-by
They say jump, you say how high
Yeah
Just victims of the in-house drive-by
They say jump, you say how high
Uggh! yeah! yea!
Ya standin in line
Believin the lies
Ya bowin down to the flag
Ya gotta bullet in ya head
Ya standin in line
Believin the lies
Ya bowin down to the flag
Ya gotta bullet in ya head
A bullet in ya head (8 times, building to a shout)
A bullet in ya head (7 times, shouted/screamed)
Ya gotta bullet in ya fuckin head!
Yeah!
Yeah! (
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> Teenager of the Year <
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Posted - 08/07/2007 : 12:13:40
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wot
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The King Of Karaoke
> Teenager of the Year <
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3759 Posts |
Posted - 08/07/2007 : 12:22:51
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Is that a "Wheel of Time" referance? Not familiar with it. Please explain.
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Llamadance
> Teenager of the Year <
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I wasn't entirely kidding KoK. You seem to be attributing US terror attacks to something other than what is popularly believed. What about UK terror attacks? Them too?
I find it hard to believe that you actually think all of them are attributable to 'unseen forces'. That 'pillar picture'. Sure, it looks like the demolition forensic, but jeez, couldn't it have happened like that anyway?
You're as willing to believe in the conspiracy theories as other people are in the popular version of events.
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the acorahs
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Posted - 08/07/2007 : 12:32:56
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quote:
Originally posted by The King Of Karaoke
"Bullet in your head" - Message? turn your tv off. I can go through the whole album here, if you like.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=jwbesCuzBTE
This time the bullet cold rocked ya
A yellow ribbon instead of a swastika
Nothin proper about ya propaganda
Fools follow rules when the set commands ya
Said it was blue
When ya blood was red
Thats how ya got a bullet blasted through ya head
Blasted through ya head
Blasted through ya head
I give a shout out to the living dead
Who stood and watched as the feds cold centralised?
So serene on the screen
You was mesmerised
Cellular phones soundin a death tone
Corporations cold
Turn ya to stone before ya realise
They load the clip in omnicolour
Said they pack the 9, they fire it at prime time
The sleeping gas, every home was like alcatraz
And mutha fuckas lost their minds
Just victims of the in-house drive-by
They say jump, you say how high
Yeah
Just victims of the in-house drive-by
They say jump, you say how high
Run it!
(guitar solo)
Just victims of the in-house drive-by
They say jump, you say how high
Just victims of the in-house drive-by
They say jump, you say how high
Check-a, check-a, check it out
They load the clip in omnicolour
Said they pack the 9, they fire it at prime time
The sleeping gas, every home was like alcatraz
And mutha fuckas lost their minds
No escape from the mass mind rape
Play it again jack and then rewind the tape
And then play it again and again and again
Until ya mind is locked in
Believin all the lies that theyre tellin ya
Buyin all the products that theyre sellin ya
They say jump and ya say how high
Ya brain-dead
Ya gotta fuckin bullet in ya head
Just victims of the in-house drive-by
They say jump, you say how high
Yeah
Just victims of the in-house drive-by
They say jump, you say how high
Uggh! yeah! yea!
Ya standin in line
Believin the lies
Ya bowin down to the flag
Ya gotta bullet in ya head
Ya standin in line
Believin the lies
Ya bowin down to the flag
Ya gotta bullet in ya head
A bullet in ya head (8 times, building to a shout)
A bullet in ya head (7 times, shouted/screamed)
Ya gotta bullet in ya fuckin head!
Yeah!
Yeah! (
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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <
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Posted - 08/07/2007 : 12:34:07
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why should we switch off the tv when it shows stuff you link to on youtube?
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The King Of Karaoke
> Teenager of the Year <
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3759 Posts |
Posted - 08/07/2007 : 12:37:24
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quote:
Originally posted by Llamadance
I wasn't entirely kidding KoK. You seem to be attributing US terror attacks to something other than what is popularly believed. What about UK terror attacks? Them too?
I find it hard to believe that you actually think all of them are attributable to 'unseen forces'. That 'pillar picture'. Sure, it looks like the demolition forensic, but jeez, couldn't it have happened like that anyway?
You're as willing to believe in the conspiracy theories as other people are in the popular version of events.
No, I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is one nation under God George Bush snr
Hey, I'm just a regular guy wiht an inherent distrust of the government. I believe I may have developped that when I started learning about nutrition and realized how nasty that area is. Pharmaceuticals, FDA, Monsanto etc.
I've done a lot of research on this 9/11 subject and feel the evidence is overwhelming. I can't force any of you to look at any of the films but I can try to get people to take a peak. Even if that means people come to dislike me. I think if any of these people that are arguing with me on this were to sit down with me, have a couple beers and watch some of these documentraies they could see I'm onto something here.
Watch "terrorstorm" and learn that yes, 7/7 was very likely an inside job used to boost Blair's Labor party numbers prior to the election.
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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <
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4698 Posts |
Posted - 08/07/2007 : 12:39:50
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you mean the general election that was 2 months before?
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The King Of Karaoke
> Teenager of the Year <
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3759 Posts |
Posted - 08/07/2007 : 12:44:45
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quote:
Originally posted by PixieSteve
why should we switch off the tv when it shows stuff you link to on youtube?
"Idiot" is just her sig.
I don't have cable anymore. I have a tv but I don't pay for propaganda. the thing with Youtube is we are allowed to review footage of the event or events. If it wasn't for the internet this thing would have gone off without any issues. Technology has bitten these guys in the ass. This stuff would still be on obscure conspiracy websites if the Loosechange guys didn't post their film on Youtube. Their film has many flaws because they try to specualte as to what went down with the entire event. Lets looks at the stuff we can prove. The buildings were demolished. The pentagon intially had a fifteen foot hole in it. 767's do not voporize into fifteen foot holes. The 70 something foot hole the Popular Mechanics piece likes to refer to was after the roof collapsed.
How many here believe JFK was shot by a lone gunman?
Why forty years later do most of us feel he was assassinated but this is so unfathomable? Is it going to take forty years for this too?
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> Teenager of the Year <
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the acorahs
- FB Fan -
United Kingdom
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Posted - 08/07/2007 : 12:49:02
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quote:
Originally posted by PixieSteve
you mean the general election that was 2 months before?
"Idiot" is just her sig.
Why let facts get in the way of what sounds good.
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The King Of Karaoke
> Teenager of the Year <
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3759 Posts |
Posted - 08/07/2007 : 12:51:58
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quote:
Originally posted by the acorahs
quote:
Originally posted by PixieSteve
you mean the general election that was 2 months before?
"Idiot" is just her sig.
Why let facts get in the way of what sounds good.
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www.myspace.com/thesexymistakes
All I can say is watch the films. I can't fly across the pond an force a pint down your throat while making you watch these films. Plus, I don't even have the proper format for your players.
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Llamadance
> Teenager of the Year <
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Posted - 08/07/2007 : 12:53:01
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ha, I'm more than happy to believe in the corruption of pharmaceutical companies.
You can't force us to look, and most of us probably don't. I would venture to say that the carpet-bombing approach doesn't really make us want to either. We may think you're a nutter, but I doubt anyone dislikes you ;)
So, why, why, why, if the evidence is overwhelming doesn't the truth come out? Are the media companies controlled? Are we all blinkered? Is it that when people bring out books on conspiracy theories they just look like money-grabbing idiots? Is it only people with a healthy dose of paranoia that see the real thing?
I'd say I'm fairly cynical. I think there's a good chance Dr David Kelly was killed by other than his own hand, but I don't believe that 9/11 was an inside job.
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> Teenager of the Year <
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> Teenager of the Year <
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Posted - 08/07/2007 : 13:59:14
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i am on KOK's side when it comes to watching the documentaries. i can't believe people are arguing with him and then saying they haven't watched anything he's linked to. i believe we landed on the moon, and think hoax conspiracies are bullshit, but that's because i've watched/read their "proof" and then i've seen the same "proof" debunked numerous times. isn't anyone at least a little curious as to why people believe in these conspiracies?
although, i wouldn't say watch all of them at once. stick with one. my first was loose change, which provides a general run through of the main areas of doubt. there might be better ones.
and zeitgeist is very interesting, if only for the first part on christianity.
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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <
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Posted - 08/07/2007 : 14:14:24
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btw, you probably got confused between elections and the rushing through of terror legislation that shortly followed 7/7
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The King Of Karaoke
> Teenager of the Year <
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3759 Posts |
Posted - 08/07/2007 : 14:24:34
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Originally posted by PixieSteve
btw, you probably got confused between elections and the rushing through of terror legislation that shortly followed 7/7
"Idiot" is just her sig.
Thank you. Watch "terrorstorm" if you can I think you'll like it.
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speedy_m
= Frankofile =
Canada
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Posted - 08/07/2007 : 14:25:59
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If there were no precedent for all of this, it would be much less plausible. The most powerful and recent one, however, is the Nazis. Hitler was elected and supported by the people.
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