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The King Of Karaoke
> Teenager of the Year <

USA
3759 Posts

Posted - 07/26/2007 :  13:03:55  Show Profile
Dick Cheney’s Song of America

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article1544.htm


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Dear Dallas,
Have you watched any of the documentaries yet?

http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=911+mysteries&hl=en
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=786048453686176230&q=Terrorstorm&hl=en
http://www.loosechange911.com/

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Dallas
= Cult of Ray =

USA
725 Posts

Posted - 07/26/2007 :  13:25:50  Show Profile
OMG, I cannot believe you brought up the USS Liberty. That is hilarious that you would use that to buttress your claims! Hilarious, because again, it illustrates your ignorance of history and basic common sense.

The USS Liberty attack was completely well known and reported in US, Isreali, Russian, and damn near any language available at the time.

YOU ARE EMBARRASING YOURSELF!!!

Not only was this well known, the issue was debated in public on the floor of the House of Reps and therefore included in the Congressional Record for all time!


Shady deal as to why the it was done or whether it was an accident. I think all involved say at best it was a reckless and thoughtless attack by Isreal. At worst it was a calculated attack to draw the US into the6 day war (seems implausible to me because at this stage of that war Isreal had already obliterated the Egyptian and Jordanian airforces and had achieved air superiority and major gains on the ground).

The soldiers were asked to not comment etc. basically to keep the public from getting angered at Israel or confused about their intent or the US role in the war. A dodgy at best plan. The US was really in a quandry, having no real idea whether it was an accident or not.

However, the incident itself was not covered up. It was reported by major newspapers. Members of congress, the military and diplomatic corps were all briefed. Isreal was apologizing to the US the same day it all happened.

PUT DOWN YOUR LAPTOP AND PICKUP A BOOK!!!!!!

Here is link to the Congressional Record from Sept of 1967. I sure hope they kept all those midshipmen quiet for that whole 2 months!!! LOL!! http://www.ussliberty.org/g/crsept191967.pdf


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The King Of Karaoke
> Teenager of the Year <

USA
3759 Posts

Posted - 07/26/2007 :  14:05:04  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Dallas

OMG, I cannot believe you brought up the USS Liberty. That is hilarious that you would use that to buttress your claims! Hilarious, because again, it illustrates your ignorance of history and basic common sense.

The USS Liberty attack was completely well known and reported in US, Isreali, Russian, and damn near any language available at the time.

YOU ARE EMBARRASING YOURSELF!!!

Not only was this well known, the issue was debated in public on the floor of the House of Reps and therefore included in the Congressional Record for all time!


Shady deal as to why the it was done or whether it was an accident. I think all involved say at best it was a reckless and thoughtless attack by Isreal. At worst it was a calculated attack to draw the US into the6 day war (seems implausible to me because at this stage of that war Isreal had already obliterated the Egyptian and Jordanian airforces and had achieved air superiority and major gains on the ground).

The soldiers were asked to not comment etc. basically to keep the public from getting angered at Israel or confused about their intent or the US role in the war. A dodgy at best plan. The US was really in a quandry, having no real idea whether it was an accident or not.

However, the incident itself was not covered up. It was reported by major newspapers. Members of congress, the military and diplomatic corps were all briefed. Isreal was apologizing to the US the same day it all happened.

PUT DOWN YOUR LAPTOP AND PICKUP A BOOK!!!!!!

Here is link to the Congressional Record from Sept of 1967. I sure hope they kept all those midshipmen quiet for that whole 2 months!!! LOL!! http://www.ussliberty.org/g/crsept191967.pdf





What a crack up(pot) In one post you chastise me as a "conspiracuy nut" and in the next you are one.

Lusitania, Pearl Harbor, Gulf of Tonkin, Liberty, attaks on WTC's all false flag or provoked terrorism designed to get us into wars.

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Dear Dallas,
Have you watched any of the documentaries yet?

http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/

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Dallas
= Cult of Ray =

USA
725 Posts

Posted - 07/26/2007 :  14:27:26  Show Profile
Its getting tougher isn't KOK? I mean, there isn't anything to say after you have made an ass of yourself AGAIN. How many corrections are you up to today anyway? Your getting incoherent again, what is my conspiracy?

Come on man, how long were those soldiers SILENCED??!?! A week, a month, 2 months? It must have been HELL!

The bonus on this is that it shows how gullible you are and how willing you are to accept anything your wing-nut websites put forth. Not the least bit of curiousity if it is true. The great USS Liberty cover up! What a riot.


Dude, I told you I watched LooseChange. Thanks for putting me in your sig though!
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The King Of Karaoke
> Teenager of the Year <

USA
3759 Posts

Posted - 07/26/2007 :  14:42:59  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Dallas

Its getting tougher isn't KOK? I mean, there isn't anything to say after you have made an ass of yourself AGAIN. How many corrections are you up to today anyway? Your getting incoherent again, what is my conspiracy?

Come on man, how long were those soldiers SILENCED??!?! A week, a month, 2 months? It must have been HELL!

The bonus on this is that it shows how gullible you are and how willing you are to accept anything your wing-nut websites put forth. Not the least bit of curiousity if it is true. The great USS Liberty cover up! What a riot.


Dude, I told you I watched LooseChange. Thanks for putting me in your sig though!



Claiming that you watched Looschange and calling it a night on this is for people that enjoy their government mind control. And as I stated earlier it was a long night. Run a train to LA, then hop in a van a drive back to SLO to arrive a 2:30 in the morning. Get home check my email, on the net to see what you nerds have been up to, then asleep at four. Wake up at 9:00 and here I am cleaning my house and half heartedly f'n around with your dumb ass.

Look man, joking a side cause that's all this is to me. Maybe you need to find yourself a hobby or something. Later, if you feel inspired to look into this a little more seriosly come on back.

"I watched Loosechange" If only you realized how ridiculous that sounds. The earth is round. You have issues with that statement? You would have.

http://www.911smokingguns.com/
http://patriotsquestion911.com/


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Dear Dallas,
Have you watched any of the documentaries yet?

http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/

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The King Of Karaoke
> Teenager of the Year <

USA
3759 Posts

Posted - 07/26/2007 :  14:48:57  Show Profile
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2007/260707dischargepapers.htm

Rowe Arrested Despite Honorable Discharge Papers
Loose Change producer reveals startling new details to Prison Planet, Fox News, including how arresting officers cut his phone lines, came out of the woods - Fort Drum officials immediately released Rowe following barrage of phone calls
Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet
Thursday, July 26, 2007



Korey Rowe, the Afghanistan and Iraq combat veteran and producer of Loose Change, who was arrested on Monday under charges of desertion, presented his honorable discharge papers to the arresting officers and yet was grabbed after a sophisticated operation where police staked out his house from the woods and cut his phone lines.

Rowe was interviewed about the events today for a Fox News report.

(Article continues below)



Korey Rowe, 24, who served with the 101st Airborne in Afghanistan and Iraq, told FOXNews.com that he was honorably discharged from the military 18 months ago — which he said he explained to sheriffs when they pounded on his door late Monday night.

“When they came to my house, I showed them my paperwork,” Rowe said. “The cops said, 'You’re still in the system.'”

Rowe was turned over to officials at Fort Drum — the closest military base — who then booked him on a flight to Fort Campbell, Ky., where his unit is based, to try to straighten out why the military issued a warrant for his arrest.

“A warrant for my arrest came down and showed up on the sheriff’s desk,” Rowe said. “Where it came from and why it showed up all of a sudden is a mystery to me.”

Rowe said he was sitting in his living room watching the show “Cops” and drinking a beer Monday night when police banged on the door.

“I thought it was the TV,” he said. “There was f-----g mad cops out there. I thought, here we go.”

There were at least five sheriffs on hand for his arrest, Rowe said. They told him he had an active-duty warrant from the military.

“They pulled a whole operation. They cut my phone lines. They came from the woods. It was crazy — it was ridiculous,” he said.

Rowe shared further details with us about the sequence of events than is revealed in the Fox News article.

According to Rowe, Army officials at Fort Drum, where Rowe was held for a day and a half, seemed uninterested in the case until their phone lines were incinerated by a barrage of calls from listeners who responded to our call to action yesterday morning.

It was at that point that officials checked into Rowe's record and immediately confirmed that he had received an honorable discharge and told Rowe he was free to leave, and even offered to pay his way to get back to New York. They were baffled as to why a warrant would be out for his arrest when he had clearly been given permission to leave the Army in 2005.

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It was Korey Rowe's personal decision to travel on to Fort Campbell Kentucky in an attempt to ensure his name was completely expunged from the system and that such events would not repeat for a third time, with Rowe having been arrested once before under a similar pretext.

Rowe was able to board an airplane without being apprehended, as he had been many times before the incident, because there has never been a warrant against his name in the database.

Though Korey Rowe puts the arrest down to a probable "administrative error", many in the 9/11 truth movement will be wondering if this was part of a pre-emptive strategy to discredit the upcoming cinematic release of Loose Change Final Cut.

The documentary is set to include explosive new interviews that will shake the political spectrum to the core.

The nature of the arrest certainly has Army intelligence planning written all over it and we will be certain to share more details upon Korey Rowe's return from Kentucky, which is expected to be in around a week's time.

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Dear Dallas,
Have you watched any of the documentaries yet?

http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/
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The King Of Karaoke
> Teenager of the Year <

USA
3759 Posts

Posted - 07/26/2007 :  15:01:00  Show Profile
Short clips for Dallas' low attention span. Go get your Ritalin.

Flight 93 "shot down" http://youtube.com/watch?v=3V9MD15qs5s

The Ultimate Con http://youtube.com/watch?v=yIgoXQWiSlM

9/11 coincidences http://youtube.com/watch?v=em_XyTeNA1g

"Pull it" : http://youtube.com/watch?v=j2q2mD2HaKA

Was Flight 175 A Military Plane? :http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZzbVn3o8JNE

BBC reports on WTC7 collapse BEFORE it happens: http://youtube.com/watch?v=_oNhbsJ81Q4&mode=related&search=

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Dear Dallas,
Have you watched any of the documentaries yet?

http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/

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The King Of Karaoke
> Teenager of the Year <

USA
3759 Posts

Posted - 07/27/2007 :  10:27:02  Show Profile
When Will We Have Had Enough?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=P682rGIhZwI

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Have you watched any of the documentaries yet?

http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/
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The King Of Karaoke
> Teenager of the Year <

USA
3759 Posts

Posted - 07/27/2007 :  10:39:49  Show Profile
Meet "Blackwater" Coming to a town near you!
http://wtprn.com/Blackwater.html

Blackwater Mercenaries killing unarmed civilians.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZX1odzHdAo

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http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
11546 Posts

Posted - 07/27/2007 :  15:42:19  Show Profile
'Cult play concert at racetrack'
http://www.zvents.com/events/show/26557225-The-Cult-Concert-at-Del-Mar-Racetrack
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <

South Sandwich Islands
4204 Posts

Posted - 07/27/2007 :  15:52:12  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Carl

'Cult play concert at racetrack'
http://www.zvents.com/events/show/26557225-The-Cult-Concert-at-Del-Mar-Racetrack



And that's not all...
http://www.ianastburylovesthetrilateralcommission.com/
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Jose Jones
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1758 Posts

Posted - 07/28/2007 :  06:26:40  Show Profile  Visit Jose Jones's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by The King Of Karaoke

When Will We Have Had Enough?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=P682rGIhZwI

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Dear Dallas,
Have you watched any of the documentaries yet?

http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/



i just want to say that Boston Legal is great. my wife hasn't seen it yet. an excuse to rent them on dvd!
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The King Of Karaoke
> Teenager of the Year <

USA
3759 Posts

Posted - 07/28/2007 :  16:58:27  Show Profile
Brasscheck TV writes in their email alerts:

J-

They knew where all the aircraft
were all of the time...

Pilotsfor911Truth.org is doing
detailed and comprehensive
research and evaluation into the
technical aviation details related
to 9-11.

Their conclustion: They cannot find
evidence to back even a single government
assertion about what happened that
day in the air and in the air traffic
control sytem.

This video is little technical, but the
information is presented with extreme
clarity.

http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/129.html

- Brasscheck


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http://youtube.com/watch?v=c9js4AdG5_4

http://youtube.com/watch?v=7KbnQjAow5M

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The King Of Karaoke
> Teenager of the Year <

USA
3759 Posts

Posted - 07/28/2007 :  17:27:52  Show Profile
The Power Of Nightmares
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=881321004838285177&q=the+power+of+nightmares&total=337&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

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http://youtube.com/watch?v=7KbnQjAow5M
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The King Of Karaoke
> Teenager of the Year <

USA
3759 Posts

Posted - 07/28/2007 :  18:39:48  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Jose Jones

i seriously doubt that bush will end up a dictator, blah blah blah.

but the fact that measures have been taken to make that even slightly attainable is enough to piss me off.

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Exactly. I don't know how much of this stuff to believe either half the time but when I see it heading further and further in that direction my antennae go up.

I don't understand why people have such a hard time believing absolute power corrupts absolutely, as they say. It happened in Germany, why can't it happen here? The same model Hitler used seems to be being followed.

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http://youtube.com/watch?v=7KbnQjAow5M

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The King Of Karaoke
> Teenager of the Year <

USA
3759 Posts

Posted - 07/28/2007 :  18:42:40  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Dallas

My goodness, the level of gullability here.

Ok its not Bush, its some shadowy government figures. Oh my, are the Rothschilds involved? KOK, do you realize that this same tired shit has been around for decades? Are the Mason's involved??? LOL.





Okay, rape chamber guy.

Sorry I'm not as quick with the combacks as I used to be.

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The King Of Karaoke
> Teenager of the Year <

USA
3759 Posts

Posted - 07/30/2007 :  15:29:16  Show Profile

Attorney For New Black Panther Party: Bush Had 9/11 Foreknowledge


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29SkIJNvqGY

http://infowars.net/articles/july2007/180707Panther.htm


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KOK says: "Your government issued reality is about to get a dope slap."

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The King Of Karaoke
> Teenager of the Year <

USA
3759 Posts

Posted - 07/31/2007 :  13:53:33  Show Profile

Prominent Engineer Calls for a New Investigation of 9/11




SAN FRANCISCO, CA July 16, 2007 -- San Francisco architect Richard Gage, AIA, founder of the group, 'Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth,' announced today the statement of support from J. Marx Ayres, former member of the California Seismic Safety Commission and former member of the National Institute of Sciences Building Safety Council.

“We are proud to have the support of Marx Ayres, a nationally recognized expert in building energy systems and earthquake damage to building nonstructural systems, in our search for the truth about the events of 9/11.”, said Mr. Gage. “He has signed our petition requesting a reinvestigation of those tragic events and he has now gone even further by providing his personal statement of support for a new investigation of 9/11.”

Mr. Ayres is a nationally recognized expert in building air conditioning design and analysis, energy conservation, thermal energy storage, commissioning of HVAC systems, and earthquake damage to building mechanical systems, with over 55 years of experience. Co-founder of one of the largest building engineering firms in Los Angeles, Mr. Ayres has been in responsible charge of the design of hundreds of major building projects, including high rise offices, commercial centers, hospitals and laboratories, hotels and residential buildings, universities and colleges, schools, theaters and entertainment centers, jails and correctional facilities, TV and sound studios, governmental buildings and industrial facilities.

In his statement, Mr. Ayres wrote, “I support the work of Dr. Steven Jones. He has provided a scientific foundation for the collapse of the three World Trade Center (WTC) towers. I read the FEMA September, 2002 report, prepared by the American Society of Civil Engineers, and initially accepted their theory of the collapse of WTC 1 and 2. As more information became available on the web, I was motivated to research the subject in a more rigorous manner. I have carefully studied the Jones 2006 paper, “Why Indeed Did the WTC Buildings Completely Collapse? ” and concluded that it is a rational step-by-step study that meets the accepted standards for scientific building research. His critical reviews of the FEMA, NIST, and 9/11 Commission reports are correct.”

Mr. Ayres continues, “Steven Jones’ call for a ‘serious investigation’ of the hypothesis that the WTC 7 and the Twin Towers were brought down, not just by impact damage and fire, but through the use of pre-positioned “cutter-charges” must be the rallying cry for all building design experts to speak out.”

Dr. Steven Jones is in the forefront of independent scientific researchers investigating the events of 9/11. A former professor of physics at Brigham Young University, his research indicates that the World Trade Center skyscrapers were destroyed not as a result of the impact of airplanes, but rather the result of intentional, controlled demolitions using precisely timed detonations of pre-planted explosives. In fact, one of the skyscrapers, 610 foot tall, 47-story, WTC Building 7, was not even hit by an airplane, yet it disintegrated and fell into a pile of rubble in less than 7 seconds. It is of interest to note that Building 7 was not even mentioned in the 9/11 Commission’s "full and complete account of the circumstances surrounding the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks.” And in the almost six years since 9/11, the Federal government has yet to publish its promised final report that explains the cause of Building 7’s collapse.

In addition to his work on the California Seismic Safety Commission and National Institute of Sciences Building Safety Council, Mr. Ayres also served on the State of California Department of Health Building Safety Board, where he was Chairman of the Mechanical/Electrical Subcommittee. Mr. Ayres has also served as a member of the Building Code Advisory committees for the City of Los Angeles, the California Building Standards Committee, and the International Conference of Building Officials.

Mr. Gage, Mr. Ayres, and over 120 other architecture and engineering professionals, have signed a petition posted on the group’s website which questions the official reports of the destruction of the World Trade Center (WTC) Twin Towers and Building 7 in New York City on 9/11/01, and calls for a new investigation. The group does not speculate as to who and why, Gage says, but instead calls for a new investigation by Congress with subpoena power. He believes a new investigation is the only hope of "fully answering these questions and bringing those responsible to justice."

To read Mr. Ayres’s full statement and to learn more about Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth, please visit the organization’s website at: http://AE911Truth.org

For more information about J. Marx Ayres, please visit his website at http://jmayres.com

For more information about Dr. Steven Jones’ research on the destruction of the World Trade Center buildings, please visit Scholars for 9/11 Truth and Justice website at http://stj911.org/index.html

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whitefrancis
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Australia
53 Posts

Posted - 07/31/2007 :  17:31:20  Show Profile
i feel sorry for poor old blind, ignorant dallas.
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The King Of Karaoke
> Teenager of the Year <

USA
3759 Posts

Posted - 08/01/2007 :  00:30:56  Show Profile
Well, I hope he and others at least take a real look at it. I'm not really trying to shove this conspiracy theory down anyones throat. I'm just trying to get people to take a real look at the films I've linked. If they were to take a REAL look and then (very maturely) decide that they still don't believe it, then that's all I was looking to accomplish.

I just watched "Oil, Smoke and Mirrors" again. Highly recommend. Linked above.

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The King Of Karaoke
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USA
3759 Posts

Posted - 08/01/2007 :  11:13:01  Show Profile
The Secret Government: The Constitution in Crisis, by Bill Moyers

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3505348655137118430&q=iran+contra&total=280&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=2

This is the full length 90 min. version of Bill Moyer's 1987 scathing critique of the criminal subterfuge carried out by the Executive Branch of the United States Government to carry out operations which are clearly contrary to the wishes and values of the American people. The ability to exercise this power with impunity is facilitated by the National Security Act of 1947. The thrust of the exposé is the Iran-Contra arms and drug-running operations which flooded the streets of our nation with crack cocaine. The significance of the documentary is probably greater today in 2007 than it was when it was made. We now have a situation in which these same forces have committed the most egregious terrorist attack on US soil and have declared a fraudulent so-called "War on Terror". The ruling regime in the US who have conducted the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq, are now banging the war drum against Iran. We have the PATRIOT act which has stripped us of many of our basic civil rights justified by the terror of 9/11 which is their own doing. «

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The King Of Karaoke
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USA
3759 Posts

Posted - 08/01/2007 :  15:31:04  Show Profile

Philip Zelikow and the 9/11 Commission Report


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuoQZkBFj9A

Philip Zelikow: The Bush Administration Investigates the Bush Administration
http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20051128144916707

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The King Of Karaoke
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USA
3759 Posts

Posted - 08/01/2007 :  15:38:51  Show Profile
WTC7 The Smoking Gun Of 9/11 (16 minutes)

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2073592843640256739&q=WTC7%3A+The+Smoking+Gun+of+9%2F11

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The King Of Karaoke
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USA
3759 Posts

Posted - 08/02/2007 :  09:16:09  Show Profile
The Power of Nightmares Part 2: The Phantom Victory - by Adam Curtis

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4602171665328041876&q=the+power+of+nightmares+2&total=134&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

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The King Of Karaoke
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USA
3759 Posts

Posted - 08/03/2007 :  11:30:45  Show Profile
Rockefeller Admitted Elite Goal Of Microchipped Population
Hollywood director and documentary film maker Aaron Russo has gone in-depth on the astounding admissions of Nick Rockefeller, who personally told him that the elite's ultimate goal was to create a microchipped population and that the war on terror was a hoax, Rockefeller having predicted an "event" that would trigger the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan eleven months before 9/11.

Rockefeller also told Russo that his family's foundation had created and bankrolled the women's liberation movement in order to destroy the family and that population reduction was a fundamental aim of the global elite
(15 minutes)

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1263677258215075609&hl=en

Wake up!

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s_wrenn
* Dog in the Sand *

Ireland
1851 Posts

Posted - 08/03/2007 :  11:56:18  Show Profile
Hold up!
What happened on the 9th of November?
I fell into a coma on September 10th 2001 at 11.59pm. Having recently recovered from said coma, i would like to know about this topic.


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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
5454 Posts

Posted - 08/03/2007 :  12:08:26  Show Profile
"Rockefeller also told Russo that his family's foundation had created and bankrolled the women's liberation movement in order to destroy the family and that population reduction was a fundamental aim of the global elite"

I knew those feminazis were out to destroy America.
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The King Of Karaoke
> Teenager of the Year <

USA
3759 Posts

Posted - 08/03/2007 :  12:14:42  Show Profile
You lost me. Are you being facetious?

Most of America also fell into a coma around that period in time.

I mindless, plastic flagged, groupthink coma.

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The King Of Karaoke
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Posted - 08/03/2007 :  12:18:01  Show Profile
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"Rockefeller also told Russo that his family's foundation had created and bankrolled the women's liberation movement in order to destroy the family and that population reduction was a fundamental aim of the global elite"

I knew those feminazis were out to destroy America.



Well, that is a case of Alex Jones exaggeration I feel. According to Russo in this and other clips I've seen, the supposed goal of the womens liberation movement was to be able to tax the other half of the U.S. population. The destruction of the family may have been just a byproduct.

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darwin
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Posted - 08/03/2007 :  12:36:18  Show Profile
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Well, that is a case of Alex Jones exaggeration I feel. According to Russo in this and other clips I've seen, the supposed goal of the womens liberation movement was to be able to tax the other half of the U.S. population. The destruction of the family may have been just a byproduct.




First of all it hasn't lead to the destruction of the family (unless you think a woman playing a subservient role was a healthy family) and second couldn't the women's liberation movement have been about, I don't know, liberating women?
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The King Of Karaoke
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Posted - 08/03/2007 :  12:52:28  Show Profile
So, you think the American family has faired better with both parents working forty plus hours a week? Putting a child in day care at age three and hoping for the best? I would be willing to bet most families would rather have a parent able to be home to raise their children the way they want rather than leaving them with strangers.

Second of all, so you feel that a woman being at home and handling all of the responsiblities that go along with raising a child and running the home makes her subservient? Interesting.

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Posted - 08/03/2007 :  13:02:52  Show Profile
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Originally posted by The King Of Karaoke

So, you think the American family has faired better with both parents working forty plus hours a week? Putting a child in day care at age three and hoping for the best? I would be willing to bet most families would rather have a parent able to be home to raise their children the way they want rather than leaving them with strangers.

Second of all, so you feel that a woman being at home and handling all of the responsiblities that go along with raising a child and running the home makes her subservient? Interesting.

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I think it's healthier for both the husband and wife to have lives that allow them to pursue their careers. For some of us work isn't a task. It's what we like to do. And yes it's a subservient role if women are expected or persuaded to give up their careers so that they take care of the kids. Why doesn't the husband do it?

And for context, I have two kids and for the past 9 years my wife and I have worked part time to take care of our kids. My youngest kid didn't attend day care until he was 3 1/2 and the truth is that kids love day care (if it's a good place). What's better than a building full of other kids with many toys and activities.
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The King Of Karaoke
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Posted - 08/03/2007 :  13:18:18  Show Profile
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Originally posted by darwin

quote:
Originally posted by The King Of Karaoke

So, you think the American family has faired better with both parents working forty plus hours a week? Putting a child in day care at age three and hoping for the best? I would be willing to bet most families would rather have a parent able to be home to raise their children the way they want rather than leaving them with strangers.

Second of all, so you feel that a woman being at home and handling all of the responsiblities that go along with raising a child and running the home makes her subservient? Interesting.

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I think it's healthier for both the husband and wife to have lives that allow them to pursue their careers. For some of us work isn't a task. It's what we like to do. And yes it's a subservient role if women are expected or persuaded to give up their careers so that they take care of the kids. Why doesn't the husband do it?

And for context, I have two kids and for the past 9 years my wife and I have worked part time to take care of our kids. My youngest kid didn't attend day care until he was 3 1/2 and the truth is that kids love day care (if it's a good place). What's better than a building full of other kids with many toys and activities.



Sounds like the perfect family environment to me. You'll notice from my responses I've never stated anything about it having to be the woman staying home. You both work part time so you can care for your children. And yes, day care is good for kids but not if it's substituted for family. I was incredibly shy do to lack of interaction with other children when I was young. In todays society many families have to have both parents working full time just to make ends meet. It appears you and your wife have found a way to make things balance perfectly, but not everyone can do this. My close friend had to choose one or the other. 1600 a month day care bills were too much for them. Both parents working and paying outrageous day care bills or one parent staying home to raise the children.


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The King Of Karaoke
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Posted - 08/03/2007 :  13:27:50  Show Profile
Anyway, my point of all this is that I and many others believe the power elite make efforts to control us in ways many of us cannot fathom. Was women's liberation a bad thing? Of course not. But I do feel both parents working full time has been detrimental to the average American family.

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