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fumanbru
* Dog in the Sand *
Canada
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 Posted - 06/05/2007 : 06:16:01
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discuss
 "I joined the Cult of Frank/ cause I'm a real go-getter!" |
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
15320 Posts |
Posted - 06/05/2007 : 06:58:16
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I'm glad you can post again, fu. That's all I gotta say.
Ok, fine. On topic. Lemhouse is cuter and his album is more kickass and he has not posted anything here that's pissed people off. Anybody else got something?
I got some heaven in my head
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Thomas
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1615 Posts |
Posted - 06/05/2007 : 07:06:01
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Tiven can suck it!
"Our Love is Rice and Beans and Horses Lard" |
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
3111 Posts |
Posted - 06/05/2007 : 07:23:40
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Tiven taught Belushi to play guitar. He said so. (Or did I dream that? Can't find it on Google now.)
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yingguoguizi
- FB Fan -
China
62 Posts |
Posted - 06/05/2007 : 10:04:02
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blip
- FB Fan -
29 Posts |
Posted - 06/05/2007 : 10:19:37
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Well, Tiven has really helped FB develop his sound last couple of albums, and has been there for him in deciphering business matters. Lemhouse did a superb job with Bluefinger.
that is just how some things do not materialize |
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
3111 Posts |
Posted - 06/05/2007 : 10:20:19
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Originally posted by yingguoguizi
What did JT post that's pissed people off?
There was the Al Franken thing, for one. He and Tiven are buddies. Was it Erebus who didn't like FB associating with Franken (via Tiven) on account of him being so political? Am I getting that about right? That's just one instance where Tiven got in a fight with a forum member. There have been plenty of others.
Here's the Franken thing: http://forum.frankblack.net/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=10243&whichpage=6
(Thanks, Google.)
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
15320 Posts |
Posted - 06/05/2007 : 10:29:42
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Since we're hanging out our own dirty laundry:
Erebus expressed his opnion, yes. But Tiven repeatedly, and I am willing to extend the courtesy and say, without meaning to, alienated several board members by, among other things, urging fbnetters in what many of us found to be a condescending manner to support the album.
Water, bridge. But let Erebus be. Play either album and feel the Frank goodness.
Editing to add the following because this thread needs it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_rBidCkJxo
I got some heaven in my head
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
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Czar
= Cult of Ray =
Canada
321 Posts |
Posted - 06/05/2007 : 15:03:12
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What I know, is that when I listen to Honeycomb's version of I Burn Today I find it... boring whereas the unplugged/solo/live version rocks. I regret I will never hear a version produced by this Lemhouse guy.
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scruvs
= Cult of Ray =
353 Posts |
Posted - 06/05/2007 : 18:39:19
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Not really a fan of the nashville records. Don't know Tiven. Haven't listened to Bluefinger.
But a cowbell. This guy has to be one of the greatest.
"I sang some backing vocals and played cowbell because that's what producers do." -- http://www.mattie.addr.com/
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Jontiven
= Cult of Ray =
USA
347 Posts |
Posted - 06/05/2007 : 19:07:21
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I only compete against myself.
bye,
JT |
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
3111 Posts |
Posted - 06/05/2007 : 19:18:23
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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~
Belize
5305 Posts |
Posted - 06/05/2007 : 19:55:11
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I think they are both very successful at accomplishing very distinct sounds that reflect different artistic "periods" in FB/BF's career.
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Czar
= Cult of Ray =
Canada
321 Posts |
Posted - 06/05/2007 : 20:33:14
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Fair enough Daisy. What is equally fair & enough (I guess) is that people can have a preference for either period and that is, in a way, undebatable.
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danjersey
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
2792 Posts |
Posted - 06/05/2007 : 21:31:58
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
Papua New Guinea
3302 Posts |
Posted - 06/06/2007 : 00:42:12
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Jon Tiven Vs Jon Tiven. Discuss.
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
5454 Posts |
Posted - 06/06/2007 : 00:50:24
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quote:
Originally posted by Jontiven
I only compete against myself.
bye,
JT
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
8201 Posts |
Posted - 06/06/2007 : 01:23:35
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I've had disagreements in the past with Tiven, but I hold to my argument that the Nashville albums sound very flat and lifeless in terms of production - especially considering the musicians involved - whereas Bluefinger is the most sprightly FB I've heard since, ooh, Doolittle maybe.
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fumanbru
* Dog in the Sand *
Canada
1462 Posts |
Posted - 06/06/2007 : 04:06:51
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Honeycomb was a real grower for me. I really enjoy it and do like the production. I'm really glad Frank did Honeycomb as it opened me up to a genre of music that I never really cared for before...after Honeycomb I starting liking Wilco, listen to Bob Dylan more, and now I've been spinning Lucinda Williams. I tried giving Ellis Hooks a chance but it just wasn’t my cup of tea.
But BLUEFINGER!! WOW! I think that's the style that Frank does best. and I love the production. I read Mark's blog about working with Frank and then he made that cowbell reference— I'm thinking to the SNL skit with Will Ferrell, Christopher Walken,and Blue Oyster Cult! Now that’s a coolcat!
"I joined the Cult of Frank/ cause I'm a real go-getter!" |
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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~
Belize
5305 Posts |
Posted - 06/06/2007 : 04:48:56
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quote:
Originally posted by Czar
Fair enough Daisy. What is equally fair & enough (I guess) is that people can have a preference for either period and that is, in a way, undebatable.
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Do you think the Pixies were a brouillon of Black Francis?
Hi Czar not arguing about people's right to choose but just simply that it's really not an apples to apples comparison to conpare Tiven to Lemhouse because their work is so different and represents two totally different periods in FB/BF's career.
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6200 Posts |
Posted - 06/06/2007 : 07:52:19
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I like both of their work, now what about Stan Ridgeway and Nick Vincent.
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yingguoguizi
- FB Fan -
China
62 Posts |
Posted - 06/06/2007 : 08:24:52
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Originally posted by coastline
quote:
Originally posted by yingguoguizi
What did JT post that's pissed people off?
There was the Al Franken thing, for one. He and Tiven are buddies. Was it Erebus who didn't like FB associating with Franken (via Tiven) on account of him being so political? Am I getting that about right? That's just one instance where Tiven got in a fight with a forum member. There have been plenty of others.
Here's the Franken thing: http://forum.frankblack.net/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=10243&whichpage=6
(Thanks, Google.)
Please pardon me, for these my wrongs.
Thanks Coastline. It's cool to look back on those archives and hear what people are talking about before Honeycomb came out. Can also see why JT is a bit of a contentious character around here. To be fair, the guy also gives alot of information about his albums. |
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Jefrey
= Cult of Ray =
USA
918 Posts |
Posted - 06/06/2007 : 09:52:04
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To be fair, it was always exciting to have a Jon Tiven throw down in here, Despite his repeated threats to say "bye" for good, he always came back and gave us the scoop.
You have to believe that in spite of his self promotion, he is quite a character and a big time Frank Black fan. Love him or hate him, he was a breath of fresh air to this board.
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
15297 Posts |
Posted - 06/06/2007 : 10:36:17
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Sam
= Cult of Ray =
Ireland
514 Posts |
Posted - 06/06/2007 : 11:25:04
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To be fair to JT, i don't think he was ever offensive at all. If i remember correctly there was a lot of people foaming at the mouth when he posted.
Obviously he was trying to promote it, he had spent time working on it and was proud of it.
I personally was not too crazy about fmrm, but i loved the sound of the real el rey and some others.
This guy Lemhouse seems like a very talented guy, the record is full of energy and rawness, which i love.
I take my hat of to Lemhouse and tip it to Tiven. |
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kfs
= Cult of Ray =
USA
889 Posts |
Posted - 06/06/2007 : 11:30:54
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That's nice!
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awestruck
= Cult of Ray =
USA
377 Posts |
Posted - 06/06/2007 : 12:39:42
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Someone asked me when i first started posting if i was Tiven.
I didn't even know who Tiven was when i first started posting.
Maybe I will grin but I won’t bear
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Jontiven
= Cult of Ray =
USA
347 Posts |
Posted - 06/06/2007 : 12:56:39
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Thank to you all for your support and kind words.
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Jefrey
= Cult of Ray =
USA
918 Posts |
Posted - 06/06/2007 : 13:46:56
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quote:
Originally posted by awestruck
Someone asked me when i first started posting if i was Tiven.
I didn't even know who Tiven was when i first started posting.
Maybe I will grin but I won’t bear
Then it's "Mr. Tiven" to you ;)
And where is Lemhouse, anyway? En guard, Mr. Lemhouse! You have been challenged!
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
3111 Posts |
Posted - 06/06/2007 : 14:02:27
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I bet Lemhouse aligns himself with Bill O'Reilly.
Please pardon me, for these my wrongs. |
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scruvs
= Cult of Ray =
353 Posts |
Posted - 06/06/2007 : 18:46:08
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Does anyone else hear "Lemonhouse" in your head when you read "Lemhouse"?
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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <
Poland
4698 Posts |
Posted - 06/06/2007 : 18:55:25
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no, i hear "le mouse"
Edited by - Dave Noisy on 06/05/2007 10:05:44 |
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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~
Belize
5305 Posts |
Posted - 06/06/2007 : 19:14:27
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I think of Grindhouse...cool movie.
bluefinger |
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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <
Poland
4698 Posts |
Posted - 06/06/2007 : 19:20:32
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i actually think of mark lamarr
Edited by - Dave Noisy on 06/05/2007 10:05:44 |
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
5454 Posts |
Posted - 06/06/2007 : 19:55:01
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quote:
Originally posted by scruvs
Does anyone else hear "Lemonhouse" in your head when you read "Lemhouse"?
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Boy, you sure can holler.
Nope, "I'm in lime house!" |
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MARK LEMHOUSE VS MR. JON TIVEN
