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mixedbizz
- FB Fan -
USA
176 Posts |
 Posted - 06/07/2007 : 06:16:49
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And the correct answer is... Eric Drew Feldman. Duh!
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awestruck
= Cult of Ray =
USA
377 Posts |
Posted - 06/07/2007 : 06:56:53
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quote:
Originally posted by Jefrey
quote:
Originally posted by awestruck
Someone asked me when i first started posting if i was Tiven.
I didn't even know who Tiven was when i first started posting.
Maybe I will grin but I won’t bear
Then it's "Mr. Tiven" to you ;)
And where is Lemhouse, anyway? En guard, Mr. Lemhouse! You have been challenged!
== jeffamerica ==
Ok. Mr. Tiven it is. I don't know much about him but he must be ok if he has worked with FB. 
Maybe I will grin but I won’t bear
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
3111 Posts |
Posted - 06/07/2007 : 08:04:21
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It's not that simple.
 Please pardon me, for these my wrongs. |
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
Papua New Guinea
3302 Posts |
Posted - 06/07/2007 : 09:35:58
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quote:
Originally posted by scruvs
Does anyone else hear "Lemonhouse" in your head when you read "Lemhouse"?
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Lemon mousse actually
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matto
= Cult of Ray =
USA
954 Posts |
Posted - 06/07/2007 : 11:05:20
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"you can't compare between styles, only among styles"
or so said my (dead) art professor
sminki pinki |
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
15297 Posts |
Posted - 06/07/2007 : 11:06:35
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quote:
Originally posted by matto
"you can't compare between styles, only among styles"
or so said my (dead) art professor
and look what happened to him |
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
Papua New Guinea
3302 Posts |
Posted - 06/07/2007 : 15:55:29
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quote:
Originally posted by matto
"you can't compare between styles, only among styles"
or so said my (dead) art professor
sminki pinki
Compare among? Too wishy-washy for Tiven. Lemhouse might like it. It's no use we'll never get them to shoot at each other. The world's too big.
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theonecontender
= Cult of Ray =
Canada
565 Posts |
Posted - 06/07/2007 : 21:08:30
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Originally posted by floop
i believe he prefers to be referred to simply as "Tiven"
Floop, man that was funny! Cheers for that. So many great Tiven memories of him battling against his own ego on this forum for all to read. |
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Jontiven
= Cult of Ray =
USA
347 Posts |
Posted - 06/08/2007 : 06:26:13
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I prefer "Mr. Tiven."
Those who are actually innerested, four albums that I have produced and written will be issued later this year, and I hope you all have the good sense to at least steal if not buy them. They are, in order of appearance:
1)ELLIS HOOKS-ANOTHER SATURDAY MORNING
you know him, you love him, this is cd #6.
2)MASON CASEY-SOFA KING BADASS
blues singer harmonica player, Tom Waits meets Louis Armstrong
3)GARNET MIMMS-IS ANYBODY OUT THERE?
famed for "Cry Baby" and others, this is a non-denominational gospel album
4)BETTY HARRIS-INTUITION
the Soul Queen of New Orleans before Irma was, her big records were "Cry To Me" and "Break In The Road," this one features songs by Bonnie Bramlett, Bekka Bramlett, Jerry Ragovoy, etc.
bye,
Mr. Tiven |
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kfs
= Cult of Ray =
USA
889 Posts |
Posted - 06/08/2007 : 07:34:56
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Thanks Mr. Tiven!
Keep up the good work!
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
15297 Posts |
Posted - 06/08/2007 : 09:27:40
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Originally posted by theonecontender
quote:
Originally posted by floop
i believe he prefers to be referred to simply as "Tiven"
Floop, man that was funny! Cheers for that. So many great Tiven memories of him battling against his own ego on this forum for all to read.
yes, some wonderful memories..
like someone else said though, water under the bridge. there's only room for love in my heart. even for Tiven |
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cassandra is
> Teenager of the Year <
France
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Jefrey
= Cult of Ray =
USA
918 Posts |
Posted - 06/08/2007 : 23:39:18
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quote:
Originally posted by Jontiven
I prefer "Mr. Tiven."
2)MASON CASEY-SOFA KING BADASS
blues singer harmonica player, Tom Waits meets Louis Armstrong
bye,
Mr. Tiven
Classic Mr. Tiven.
Love the album title - reminds me of "A Ass Pocket of Whiskey" by the late R.L. Burnside. They were probably friends I bet.
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mikaelp75
- FB Fan -
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Posted - 06/09/2007 : 02:47:39
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quote:
Originally posted by Jontiven
I prefer "Mr. Tiven."
Those who are actually innerested, four albums that I have produced and written will be issued later this year, and I hope you all have the good sense to at least steal if not buy them. They are, in order of appearance:
1)ELLIS HOOKS-ANOTHER SATURDAY MORNING
you know him, you love him, this is cd #6.
2)MASON CASEY-SOFA KING BADASS
blues singer harmonica player, Tom Waits meets Louis Armstrong
3)GARNET MIMMS-IS ANYBODY OUT THERE?
famed for "Cry Baby" and others, this is a non-denominational gospel album
4)BETTY HARRIS-INTUITION
the Soul Queen of New Orleans before Irma was, her big records were "Cry To Me" and "Break In The Road," this one features songs by Bonnie Bramlett, Bekka Bramlett, Jerry Ragovoy, etc.
bye,
Mr. Tiven
That looks like a great run, mr T. Happy but not surprised to see Garnet Mimms added to your CV. Any Toussaint songs on the Betty Harris CD?
(You should produce Van Morrison; he needs some grease in his grooves nowadays.) |
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Jontiven
= Cult of Ray =
USA
347 Posts |
Posted - 06/09/2007 : 05:40:06
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No love lost between Ms. Harris and Mr. Toussaint, so his songs didn't get considered.
By the way, I will be playing Italy this July with Betty Harris, Ellis Hooks, and Sir Mack Rice with a band (JON TIVEN & THE NASHVILLE ACES)containing several FB session men (Billy Block and Mark T. Jordan, as well as my wife, myself, and a horn section & two female singers). The dates are:
Perugia---Umbria Festival July 7-15
Porretta--Porretta Festival July 20 & 22nd
Sardinia--I'm not sure of the venue July 21st
So if any of you FB fans in Italy want to stop on by, it would be great to meet you.
bye,
Mr. Tiven |
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Ziggy
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
2461 Posts |
Posted - 06/09/2007 : 05:49:55
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starmekitten
-= Forum Pistolera =-
United Kingdom
6370 Posts |
Posted - 06/09/2007 : 05:58:02
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We have a whole section of the forum for self promotion you know. This thread is getting hijacked.
Idiot. |
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TAMAL
- FB Fan -
Australia
55 Posts |
Posted - 06/09/2007 : 06:09:17
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Mr Tivsy's the man! listen to fitzgerald. listen to it!
my shirt is shitty! |
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Jontiven
= Cult of Ray =
USA
347 Posts |
Posted - 06/09/2007 : 08:44:43
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Dear starmekitten,
I will consider myself under citizen's arrest for thread hijacking.
Sweetheart, when someone starts a thread about you and pits you in a battle to the death against someone you never met and have no gripes with, you are thereby allowed to use all of the weapons in your arsenal. Self-promotion is one of mine. It is designed to drive kittens away, as I am unashamedly a dog person.
Who said you make the rules? I don't need no stinkin rules! I am a PO-DUCER!!!!!!!!
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Sir Tiven to you |
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starmekitten
-= Forum Pistolera =-
United Kingdom
6370 Posts |
Posted - 06/09/2007 : 10:10:48
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Oh-kay drama queen.
Idiot. |
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Foucaults Dog
- FB Fan -
Ireland
124 Posts |
Posted - 06/09/2007 : 17:08:02
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quote:
Originally posted by Jontiven
Dear starmekitten,
I will consider myself under citizen's arrest for thread hijacking.
Sweetheart, when someone starts a thread about you and pits you in a battle to the death against someone you never met and have no gripes with, you are thereby allowed to use all of the weapons in your arsenal. Self-promotion is one of mine. It is designed to drive kittens away, as I am unashamedly a dog person.
Who said you make the rules? I don't need no stinkin rules! I am a PO-DUCER!!!!!!!!
bye,
Sir Tiven to you
Or is that POOH-DUCER??? Sorry, base humor creeps in at this hour
On a serious note, I agree that you can't "COMPARE" one producer against another when the albums in question do differ greatly in style...a subjective thing, as is one's preferences in production.
I personally LOVED honeycomb, bar three tracks, although thought the production on sing for joy took from a great song. I was terribly dissapointed by Fastman Raiderman, mainly due to the production, where I thought great songs were ruined and made wanky and predictable. Bluefinger from what I've heard so far is more my cup of tea, FB always had sonic energy and it looked like it was in decline from Honeycomb on, but it's climbing steadfast from Christmass on.
Saying that, from personal experience Mr Tiven isn't a bastion of respect for FB Fans' subjectivity. I remember being asked to remove my thread announcing my disapointment with FM/RM by Tiven himself. Of course I did not, as a matter of principle, given this forum is for those who love the music of FB, not as a PR medium for those who work with the great man... Charles that is, NOT Mr. Tiven (in my opinion of course)
Besides, I'm cagey about people who call "unashamedly" call themselves "dog-people" ... I prefer "animal-people", it's less discriminatory, and I LOVE Kittens |
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
5454 Posts |
Posted - 06/09/2007 : 17:30:44
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Originally posted by Jontiven
I prefer "Mr. Tiven."
Tom Waits meets Louis Armstrong
Rain Dogs proves that Waits met Armstrong long ago. |
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Ziggy
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
2461 Posts |
Posted - 06/09/2007 : 19:05:54
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| Yeham I wouldn't exactly say that the thread is being hjiacked, when one of the title's subjects decides to list his current projects. It's not like Tiven started asking us what our favourite ice cream flavours were, or suchlike. |
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
3111 Posts |
Posted - 06/09/2007 : 19:47:34
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I wonder what Tiven's favorite ice cream flavor is. Mind indulging us, Tiven?
Please pardon me, for these my wrongs. |
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
Papua New Guinea
3302 Posts |
Posted - 06/10/2007 : 04:20:14
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Raspberry, surely.
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Edited by - trobrianders on 06/10/2007 06:11:16 |
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Jontiven
= Cult of Ray =
USA
347 Posts |
Posted - 06/10/2007 : 05:11:34
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No, it's PISS-tachio.
bye,
JT |
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theonecontender
= Cult of Ray =
Canada
565 Posts |
Posted - 06/11/2007 : 07:49:26
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I, for one, am glad that Tiven is back to battle it out.
BATTLES!
ENTERTAINMENT! |
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Jose Jones
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1758 Posts |
Posted - 06/12/2007 : 20:49:21
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daisy made me think of a thought. a thought that was then cultivated by billgoodman and then by mixedbizz, though through a different lense.
producers.
producers and frank black.
they truly shape the album for our man.
albini.
feldman.
vincent.
tiven.
lemhouse.
frank went to these people for a reason. he saw they would help him achieve the vision he had for their respective record(s).
anyway...
i just happened to be listening to honeycomb an hour ago. while enjoying jameson on ice.
honeycomb is not a weed album. it's a whiskey album.
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
Papua New Guinea
3302 Posts |
Posted - 06/13/2007 : 03:06:18
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Originally posted by Jose Jones
honeycomb is not a weed album. it's a whiskey album.
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I like that.
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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~
Belize
5305 Posts |
Posted - 06/14/2007 : 17:29:30
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cheers to that!
bluefinger |
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scruvs
= Cult of Ray =
353 Posts |
Posted - 06/14/2007 : 18:43:58
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really? whiskey? Honeycomb? rather have my makers with a catholics record. Honeycomb feels like red wine.
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
3111 Posts |
Posted - 06/15/2007 : 05:10:33
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Whatever happened with this? This thread had a lot of promise. There was a little scuffle, and then poof, it fell flat. Can somebody insult Tiven again, please? Or can Tiven insult somebody? Obviously Lemhouse isn't gonna show up. I wish he would, though.
Please pardon me, for these my wrongs. |
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Jontiven
= Cult of Ray =
USA
347 Posts |
Posted - 06/15/2007 : 08:23:31
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I'm not up for insults, but I can offer insight.
I cannot speak for any of the other producers, but when I make a record with Frank Black, my concern is to make the record he wants to hear. Any of you who have examined my other work can testify knows that I have a wide range, a little heavy on the blues and soul side, but I have an allergic reaction to any music which is not authentic. So I try to bring out that which is singular and unique in the artist I produce. At the same time, I have some discussion with the artist as to what kind of album they want to make.
I have my own distinct musical personality, but it only comes out as needed, or when asked. The four cds which I have produced and are coming out later this year (Garnet, Mason, Betty and Ellis) are all co-written by me, and are in four different genres (rock, blues, soul, and gospel). The reason I posted these earlier is because I thought it might be interesting for some of you to see what I do with other artists in other situations, and I admit with these four cds, my musical personality is far more pro-active than it is with Frank Black. With Frank I make sure everything is set for HIS musical personality to take charge, whereas with these other records it is a complete musical collaboration.
So if that's what you're looking for, you got it. Fire away. I can take it, I dish it back, you can knock me all you like but I know I brought some stuff out of Frank Black that he wanted to come out and I consider both albums to be great successes on many levels. It's not a competition. Those of you who are familiar with my earlier productions of said artist ("At The End of the World," "Hate Me," "Oddballs" and "Men In Black") know that I can rock as hard as anybody.
I'll be back.
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Dallas
= Cult of Ray =
USA
725 Posts |
Posted - 06/15/2007 : 08:50:49
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Thanks Tiven. I could do without some of the board drama that seems to follow you, but, why in the world you are getting harrased by an overexcited mod is beyond me.
Actually, I can't think of anything more tired than a puffed up mod like we have here. Sorry you have to put up with such hall monitor childishness and thanks for continuing to provide insight and history that we would have absolutely ZERO access to without you.
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Jose Jones
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1758 Posts |
Posted - 06/15/2007 : 09:17:28
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it's funny how it turns out i've been listening pretty heavily to the earlier tiven produced fb songs/era and also the nashville records lately.
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MARK LEMHOUSE VS MR. JON TIVEN
