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jediroller
* Dog in the Sand *
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 Posted - 07/16/2007 : 09:43:46
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Originally posted by jediroller
I want to know more about these shirts.
what do you want to know?<
Well, things like, why don't I own one?
Mostly.
I had missed out on the fact that there was merch on some dates.
"Les Blackolero, y sont forts en sacramant" - Czar | 06/26/2007 | 20:10:34
free music | Blackolero | Frank Black & Pixies Tributes |
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jediroller
* Dog in the Sand *
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fbc
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 07/16/2007 : 10:17:00
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we forgot our camera but my bro took a few shots and vids with his phone, and we bought a disposable camera. the pix will probably turn out shitty but if i put a photoshop drop shadow on them then they'll be rescued ;D i'm getting them developed tomorrow.
one other fanboy thing: seeing this sent a shiver of childlike excitement. bear in mind it's been 4 years since i last saw such a sign.
'nother dodgy mock-up
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True Blue
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Posted - 07/16/2007 : 10:34:47
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I totally agree with you. Last night's performance was really quite uncomfortable to watch. I've seen Frank like seven times outside the Pixies and I was just shocked at how he decided to deliver some of his classic songs. The guy's a fucking amazing musician on record and live and I was just cringing at what the current set up delivered.
Aside from the music itself, did no one else notice how pissed off he was and how differently he was acting?? He totally messed up the second song, dropped a chord in the first (and several others) and then dropped the microphone as he was introducing the band. He was making a joke that he'd been drinking and I wonder if he really had been knocking back a fair few before he came on. You could see he was annoyed maybe with himself or the band and said it was their last show and 'sometimes you have bad shows'. He then proceeded to act totally out of character. He threw the mic at the drum riser a few times, he hit the cymbals with it too and shouted demands about which song he wanted next. A couple of times he shouted this like ten times until the band started playing what he wanted. 'Old Black Dawning fast, I want it fast!!' There was just no joy in his performance and towards the end it was like watching a car crash when he jumped on the drum kit saying he was gonna get the place closed down, chucking a cymbal stand to the side and causing the drummer to struggle to play.
Don't get me wrong (no pun intended!), I love the dude and I haven't lost faith in him, but what the fuck was he on last night?! He's not Iggy Pop. He just became this aggressive angry performer screaming his way through the set. Sure, Manitoba and others saw him calm down a little and deliver, but for the most part he was a wild man bent on hammering his songs through your skull and out the other side. I just have total respect for the musicians that survived the ride with him!
If this is the new Frank Black I'm sure I'll get used to him, but if Blue Finger is anything to go by, last night's performance was a characteristic one off (hopefully!)
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Originally posted by junkmale
I think I must be the only person so far on this board who didn't really enjoy this show. Well, that's not quite true - I did enjoy the acoustic set. As far as the band goes, I think they murdered 90% of those songs. Don't get me wrong, I was one of those who wanted a shift away from the MOR Frank Black of the last couple of albums, but this band, in my opinion, just couldn't deliver these songs. There were exceptions, of course. Ten Percenter and Manitoba were pretty good, but even Threshold Apprehension didn't sound as powerful as it should have done.
The band just didn't have a feel for the rest of the material. Jason is a great drummer and just about held it together. Charles is a very good guitarist, but he's not Dave Philips, and he couldn't really carry the songs without Frank's guitar. For me the real problem was Ding, which was a surprise. I thought he did well in PJ Harvey's band and other things, but he was consistently behind the beat and very crude in his playing style, which really damaged some songs. I suppose it's a bit unfair to criticise players who've only just met each other, but this was almost embarassingly like watching a version of Frank if he hadn't sold a single record since Trompe le Monde and had picked up some local guys to play in a downtown bar in a one-horse town.
That said, I thought Frank was pretty good as a 'frontman' and I loved him sitting on the drum kit! But I did think that maybe he was disappointed with the quality of the band too - he just seemed intent on getting through the experience and it didn't look too much fun for him. We didn't get an encore and I thought that his comments on there being an 'unprofessional evening ahead' were about more than the mistake he made in his solo set.
Still, this was 500% better than most other things you're ever going to see. Perhaps Frank set too high standards for himself with the Catholics.
And all that because sharks Twenty-five people kill every year. All that because sharks from time to time are made the teeth. All that I always knew it by reading the Telegram of Brest. All that I will always know it when I read the Telegram of Brest
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Blank_Frackis
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Posted - 07/16/2007 : 10:42:48
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I thought that was all a bit of theatre to be honest, I think if that had been genuine Charles Normal or Ding would have wrapped their guitars round his head long before the show finished!
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juliogrigio
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Posted - 07/16/2007 : 10:51:16
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Originally posted by True Blue
I totally agree with you. Last night's performance was really quite uncomfortable to watch. I've seen Frank like seven times outside the Pixies and I was just shocked at how he decided to deliver some of his classic songs. The guy's a fucking amazing musician on record and live and I was just cringing at what the current set up delivered.
Aside from the music itself, did no one else notice how pissed off he was and how differently he was acting?? He totally messed up the second song, dropped a chord in the first (and several others) and then dropped the microphone as he was introducing the band. He was making a joke that he'd been drinking and I wonder if he really had been knocking back a fair few before he came on. You could see he was annoyed maybe with himself or the band and said it was their last show and 'sometimes you have bad shows'. He then proceeded to act totally out of character. He threw the mic at the drum riser a few times, he hit the cymbals with it too and shouted demands about which song he wanted next. A couple of times he shouted this like ten times until the band started playing what he wanted. 'Old Black Dawning fast, I want it fast!!' There was just no joy in his performance and towards the end it was like watching a car crash when he jumped on the drum kit saying he was gonna get the place closed down, chucking a cymbal stand to the side and causing the drummer to struggle to play.
Don't get me wrong (no pun intended!), I love the dude and I haven't lost faith in him, but what the fuck was he on last night?! He's not Iggy Pop. He just became this aggressive angry performer screaming his way through the set. Sure, Manitoba and others saw him calm down a little and deliver, but for the most part he was a wild man bent on hammering his songs through your skull and out the other side. I just have total respect for the musicians that survived the ride with him!
If this is the new Frank Black I'm sure I'll get used to him, but if Blue Finger is anything to go by, last night's performance was a characteristic one off (hopefully!)
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Originally posted by junkmale
I think I must be the only person so far on this board who didn't really enjoy this show. Well, that's not quite true - I did enjoy the acoustic set. As far as the band goes, I think they murdered 90% of those songs. Don't get me wrong, I was one of those who wanted a shift away from the MOR Frank Black of the last couple of albums, but this band, in my opinion, just couldn't deliver these songs. There were exceptions, of course. Ten Percenter and Manitoba were pretty good, but even Threshold Apprehension didn't sound as powerful as it should have done.
The band just didn't have a feel for the rest of the material. Jason is a great drummer and just about held it together. Charles is a very good guitarist, but he's not Dave Philips, and he couldn't really carry the songs without Frank's guitar. For me the real problem was Ding, which was a surprise. I thought he did well in PJ Harvey's band and other things, but he was consistently behind the beat and very crude in his playing style, which really damaged some songs. I suppose it's a bit unfair to criticise players who've only just met each other, but this was almost embarassingly like watching a version of Frank if he hadn't sold a single record since Trompe le Monde and had picked up some local guys to play in a downtown bar in a one-horse town.
That said, I thought Frank was pretty good as a 'frontman' and I loved him sitting on the drum kit! But I did think that maybe he was disappointed with the quality of the band too - he just seemed intent on getting through the experience and it didn't look too much fun for him. We didn't get an encore and I thought that his comments on there being an 'unprofessional evening ahead' were about more than the mistake he made in his solo set.
Still, this was 500% better than most other things you're ever going to see. Perhaps Frank set too high standards for himself with the Catholics.
And all that because sharks Twenty-five people kill every year. All that because sharks from time to time are made the teeth. All that I always knew it by reading the Telegram of Brest. All that I will always know it when I read the Telegram of Brest
Agreed. It was slightly embarrassing, and he did come across as very drunk and not happy. Kept on screaming what he wanted the band to play next midway through some songs, as well as telling them to 'wrap it up'. Also thought the band didn't suit the songs at all.
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fbc
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Posted - 07/16/2007 : 10:53:51
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after reading some of the reviews and seeing clips from previous shows, it was exactly what i was expecting. it wasn't out of character for this tour. and i enjoyed not seeing the predictably emaculate, perfectionistish Mr. Black like he was with the Catholics.
to think a few years ago some were shocked/disappointed that he was going all country and soft on us.. |
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Frog in the Sand
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Posted - 07/16/2007 : 11:23:50
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Originally posted by fbc
the night was loud
it was rock n roll
not perfection
perfection stinks
Soren, you're the incarnation of wisdom.
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fbc
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Posted - 07/16/2007 : 11:54:13
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i just got lost in the night. you know what i mean, you've been there, too, i'm sure of it.
i've enjoyed reading everybody's comments regarding the gig. there's so much in Frank Black to enjoy that it's only natural we'd have conflicting opinions on what we saw. we like the same and in turn different sides of the man, whether you were embarrassed or plain rocked out, at the heart of it all, we were all there because we appreciate his art. Go us! |
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a guy in a rover
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
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Posted - 07/16/2007 : 12:14:25
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A few of my thoughts
A. The gig was pretty fucking class.
B. Frank was looking and acting like Buster Bloodvessel.
C. A guy who was stood next to me didn't open his eyes for the whole gig. He must have either been overwhelmed by the experience or maybe he was just pissed. I couldn't tell.
D. I was right near the front. 2 or 3 rows back. Any of you guys see me? I was wearing my red FB&the Catholics T Shirt.
Kiss my ring...I am the greatest
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fbc
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Posted - 07/16/2007 : 12:18:20
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E. hey! long time no post.
I think I was by Ziggy. Charles Normal's side. Next to two girls who were loving it.
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jonathan_
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Posted - 07/16/2007 : 12:27:42
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a guy in a rover
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
535 Posts |
Posted - 07/16/2007 : 12:30:26
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F. Hey indeed! Yeah it's been a long while since I've been on here and I haven't been keeping up with the world of FB at all. Despite considering myself to be a fairly big FB fan, I was completely puzzled as to
who the band were?
and
where the following songs are from (having never heard them before)?
Lolita
Tight Black Rubber
Captain Pasty
You Can't Break A Heart And Have It
The Rockefeller Skank
Jesus, I feel really out of touch.
Ps my bro was wearing an SMYT tee. Maybe you saw him. He has a big beard.
Kiss my ring...I am the greatest
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jonathan_
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Posted - 07/16/2007 : 12:43:06
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Originally posted by a guy in a rover
F. Hey indeed! Yeah it's been a long while since I've been on here and I haven't been keeping up with the world of FB at all. Despite considering myself to be a fairly big FB fan, I was completely puzzled as to
who the band were?
and
where the following songs are from (having never heard them before)?
Lolita
Tight Black Rubber
Captain Pasty
You Can't Break A Heart And Have It
The Rockefeller Skank
Jesus, I feel really out of touch.
Ps my bro was wearing an SMYT tee. Maybe you saw him. He has a big beard.
Kiss my ring...I am the greatest
The first four are from Bluefinger, the forthcoming release under the Black Francis moniker, I believe they're widely available on the internet .. but that shit is illegal - but I've had the press copy for a few weeks and it is indeed pretty exciting music and a bit of a change in direction. You Can't Break... is a Herman Brood cover, the Dutch artist/musician who inspired Bluefinger. The Rockefeller Skank however is a Fatboy Slim cover, and was somewhat surprising and very fun indeed! |
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fbc
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Posted - 07/16/2007 : 12:44:30
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W'oh. So much to catch up on. Good Luck.
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a guy in a rover
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Posted - 07/16/2007 : 13:10:58
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Originally posted by jonathan_
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Originally posted by a guy in a rover
F. Hey indeed! Yeah it's been a long while since I've been on here and I haven't been keeping up with the world of FB at all. Despite considering myself to be a fairly big FB fan, I was completely puzzled as to
who the band were?
and
where the following songs are from (having never heard them before)?
Lolita
Tight Black Rubber
Captain Pasty
You Can't Break A Heart And Have It
The Rockefeller Skank
Jesus, I feel really out of touch.
Ps my bro was wearing an SMYT tee. Maybe you saw him. He has a big beard.
Kiss my ring...I am the greatest
The first four are from Bluefinger, the forthcoming release under the Black Francis moniker, I believe they're widely available on the internet .. but that shit is illegal - but I've had the press copy for a few weeks and it is indeed pretty exciting music and a bit of a change in direction. You Can't Break... is a Herman Brood cover, the Dutch artist/musician who inspired Bluefinger. The Rockefeller Skank however is a Fatboy Slim cover, and was somewhat surprising and very fun indeed!
Cheers ears!
PS the Celts were fucking annoying.
Kiss my ring...I am the greatest
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Crackitybones
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Guadeloupe
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Posted - 07/16/2007 : 13:12:34
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I've been a bit of a forum voyeur for ages but after last night's action it must be time to jump in! Glad to see most people had as blinking marvellous a time as I did, although i felt like a pig had pooed in my head this morning.
First off, the atmosphere was great, packed out, lots of people clearly very excited to be there but some newbies too. Obviously a much bigger venue than some of the other European dates but still small enough to have the right feel. I was a bit surprised that there wasn't more bouncing around at the front. Too many mature people. As an immature 38 year old I thoroughly worked my booty.
Frank had probably had one or two drinkies in the green room, but hell, it's the end of term for the guy. I think that some comments about the band's playing and the way he worked them miss the point. This isn't FB & The Catholics and there was a bit of Herman Brood behind the eyes last night. I loved the aggression, and he's gonna have to bark out the orders if there's no definite setlist. I certainly didn't detect any ill-feeling between them at the aftershow party (yeay, I got in!). In fact what a top bunch of guys, all genuinely interested and happy to chat, no tossy muso-speak.
I won't go on about the setlist as it's already been reported although I didn't see it mentioned that they did Robert Onion at the end. He started the band set with "your choice Charles" or words to that effect, at which Charles N chimed out the opening riff to Ten Percenter, which was damned good. California Bound was also excellent and Apprehension, well that one makes your cojones ache (or equivalent lady bits).
Left the place a v happy chappy as I had a great chat with Charles, talked about Australia and NZ (I've just come back from 2 years in NZ and saw the Pixies 2 nights running in Sydney), his family - baby on the way - and he was amused to hear that my 6 and 4 year olds know the words to Crackity Jones verbatim! We also chatted (with art historian Pistolaura!) about the Bluefinger artwork and H Brood's paintings. All great stuff washed down with lashings of fizzy pop
And now I'm going to be a real bastard and tell you that Charles Normal told me a fab piece of gossip that I shouldn't post here (right Mikael?), although I'm sure the details will start to leach out from those really in the know as opposed to a pissed up party-seeker who managed to blag his way in (thanks Mikael and Pistolaura!).
If anyone can tell me how to upload pics (am I having problems because i'm using a Mac?) I've got a few and I've also got some okay video of Thr Apprehension I'll try to get onto Youtube if I can handle the technology. |
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Ziggy
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 07/16/2007 : 13:15:45
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fbc
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Posted - 07/16/2007 : 13:23:41
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I look forward to the read.
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Originally posted by Crackitybones
If anyone can tell me how to upload pics (am I having problems because i'm using a Mac?) I've got a few and I've also got some okay video of Thr Apprehension I'll try to get onto Youtube if I can handle the technology.
you can use www.imageshack.us or set up a free account with www.flickr.com . both just involve pressing an upload button and selecting the files from your desktop (or wherever you've stored them)
Robert Onion was an inspired ending. Charles Normal nailed it. They all did.
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PixieSteve
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Poland
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Posted - 07/16/2007 : 13:33:24
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great gig! enjoyed every minute of it.
i really think those saying how uncharacteristic it was of frank etc. are missing the point. the whole tour has been about frank putting down the guitar and letting something out that he's wanted to let out for a while. i really enjoyed it. also, i didn't notice any sloppiness from the band, maybe because i was too busy having fun and dancing, you boring bastards! although i would say the solos weren't as good as on the records, but not a big deal.
one tiny thing i don't think anyone has mentioned: the first two verses of threshold were swapped around. probably by mistake.
guy in a rover: that guy with his eyes closed, hah. i was standing right next to him, wearing a blue tops with stripes. i think he was pissed. his girlfriend told him if he puked on her she would cut his balls off.
at the end when he was putting his jacket and glasses on, over the outro to robert onion, and then just standing there.... that was the definition of cool.
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Crackitybones
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fbc
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Posted - 07/16/2007 : 13:51:41
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Yes, joncintheuk! I've been waiting patiently all day for some shots.
i've just been reminded Jason C took snaps of the crowd at the end. maybe Charles N, too (?)
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at the end when he was putting his jacket and glasses on, over the outro to robert onion, and then just standing there.... that was the definition of cool.
it sure was. |
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Llamadance
> Teenager of the Year <
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Posted - 07/16/2007 : 13:57:13
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Originally posted by Crackitybones
Ta fbc.
Here they are: http://www.flickr.com/photos/10164398@N06/
Video later.
Great pics Crackitybones, thanks. Would you be so kind as to upload them to the Shepherds Bush Gallery
Just click on the link und press the UPLD button on the right. You'll have to navigate to each phot o individually to upload. Any info about the pics would be great also.
That goes for everyone else who took pics......I'm looking at you fbc ;)
No, I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is one nation under God George Bush snr |
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fbc
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Posted - 07/16/2007 : 14:11:32
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we'll see what this  bad boy can do tomorrow. i'll find a scanner and scan them in (obviously).
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Llamadance
> Teenager of the Year <
United Kingdom
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Posted - 07/16/2007 : 14:18:07
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aha, Celtic fans will only enhance them. You could get a digital CD of the film from the developers to save the scanning.....
No, I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is one nation under God George Bush snr |
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EnglishGeezer
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Posted - 07/16/2007 : 15:29:33
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| Last night was amazing!..but you know what amazing doesnt describe it, I am still bouncing with how great it was....The songs were raw solid fast full of energy ,Frank howled screeched and barked better than ever..Frank seemed angry, psychotic, and damned right petulant..but you know what it made for an unbeleivable primeaval experience...my favourite Frank gig of all time including Pixies... THANK YOU FRANK! |
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jediroller
* Dog in the Sand *
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mkdon
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Posted - 07/17/2007 : 01:12:15
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I'm a first time poster on the forum, and the reason I'm doing so is because I just want to say that whatever everyone's opinion of the event, at least the man was doing something different. Too many times we go and see bands and see them just replicate what is on their records. They stand up there, nine times out of ten just go through the motions, and end up driving their adoring fans wild just because they might just as well have been miming.
Until Frank actually explains his reasons for giving us this type of show, I think we should just take it for what it was. A new interpretation of his songs, and I for one can't wait for what he comes up with the next time he's over.
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PistoLaura
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Posted - 07/17/2007 : 02:46:20
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Originally posted by jonathan_
quote:
Originally posted by a guy in a rover
F. Hey indeed! Yeah it's been a long while since I've been on here and I haven't been keeping up with the world of FB at all. Despite considering myself to be a fairly big FB fan, I was completely puzzled as to
who the band were?
and
where the following songs are from (having never heard them before)?
Lolita
Tight Black Rubber
Captain Pasty
You Can't Break A Heart And Have It
The Rockefeller Skank
Jesus, I feel really out of touch.
Ps my bro was wearing an SMYT tee. Maybe you saw him. He has a big beard.
Kiss my ring...I am the greatest
The first four are from Bluefinger, the forthcoming release under the Black Francis moniker, I believe they're widely available on the internet .. but that shit is illegal - but I've had the press copy for a few weeks and it is indeed pretty exciting music and a bit of a change in direction. You Can't Break... is a Herman Brood cover, the Dutch artist/musician who inspired Bluefinger. The Rockefeller Skank however is a Fatboy Slim cover, and was somewhat surprising and very fun indeed!
I don't think it's that illegal- frank told me he leaked the entire album himself! sure he wouldn't press charges... |
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Moisha
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Posted - 07/17/2007 : 04:42:51
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Just had to have my two pennies worth here, although it seems a lot of other people above have got the general idea. I'm sure you all know that Frank didn't just pick up a few local musicians to bash through some of his songs, he's in a position to pick and choose from a number of top musicians for his band or any project he's doing, so I think you can assume he chose this band because they're the people he wanted. To illustrate, you say that Ding's bass playing is crude like it's a bad thing! And anyway, I don't recall him being behind the beat, that seems a little unfair, although there were admittedly mistakes, but perfection wasn't the goal, and let's not forget that the band have just come to the end of a 5 week tour, some fatigue is inevitable. But the point is, this show/tour was about pure rock and roll, not in a way that murdered the songs, those songs weren't murdered, they went on a drink and drugs binge, cut themselves up, threw up all over themselves and then jumped off a tall building, so yeah, they're different from the records, and maybe you didn't get it, maybe you're reading too much into things Frank said on stage, but having seen several of the shows on this tour (some better, some worse than Sunday) I'm convinced that he made the right choice with his band, not only for their musical abilities, but for their personalities as well. Any band is a very delicate mix of characters, and to put a new band together for a 5 week tour is not an easy task, but I'm fully backing his decisions and defending the band, in fact I think several versions of the songs were even better! Probably the only thing letting them down was the small percentage of the audience who stood there stroking their chins whilst examining and analysing the whole thing, when they probably would have fared a lot better if they just rocked out, enjoyed themselves, and took the whole thing on face value. Maybe you'll get it next time, this was what he wanted the show to be like, if he didn't, then it wouldn't have been. 95% of the audience at all the shows I've been to can't be wrong. Anyway, you're entitled to your opinion, and some of the points you make may have a grain of truth in them (10%er and Manitoba were indeed good!) but it seems to me that you're being a bit harsh on everyone simply because it wasn't what you expected! Glad the rest of you enjoyed it though!
P.S. I'm still locked in Marcel's room, somebody please let me out, I'm scared, he does weird things to me....
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Originally posted by junkmale
I think I must be the only person so far on this board who didn't really enjoy this show. Well, that's not quite true - I did enjoy the acoustic set. As far as the band goes, I think they murdered 90% of those songs. Don't get me wrong, I was one of those who wanted a shift away from the MOR Frank Black of the last couple of albums, but this band, in my opinion, just couldn't deliver these songs. There were exceptions, of course. Ten Percenter and Manitoba were pretty good, but even Threshold Apprehension didn't sound as powerful as it should have done.
The band just didn't have a feel for the rest of the material. Jason is a great drummer and just about held it together. Charles is a very good guitarist, but he's not Dave Philips, and he couldn't really carry the songs without Frank's guitar. For me the real problem was Ding, which was a surprise. I thought he did well in PJ Harvey's band and other things, but he was consistently behind the beat and very crude in his playing style, which really damaged some songs. I suppose it's a bit unfair to criticise players who've only just met each other, but this was almost embarassingly like watching a version of Frank if he hadn't sold a single record since Trompe le Monde and had picked up some local guys to play in a downtown bar in a one-horse town.
That said, I thought Frank was pretty good as a 'frontman' and I loved him sitting on the drum kit! But I did think that maybe he was disappointed with the quality of the band too - he just seemed intent on getting through the experience and it didn't look too much fun for him. We didn't get an encore and I thought that his comments on there being an 'unprofessional evening ahead' were about more than the mistake he made in his solo set.
Still, this was 500% better than most other things you're ever going to see. Perhaps Frank set too high standards for himself with the Catholics.
And all that because sharks Twenty-five people kill every year. All that because sharks from time to time are made the teeth. All that I always knew it by reading the Telegram of Brest. All that I will always know it when I read the Telegram of Brest
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Posted - 07/17/2007 : 04:57:12
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| This gig completely ruled! Better than the Pixies reform gig i saw, and probably the Catholics gigs i saw, hard to say just yet.... Frank is one of the most charasmatic frontmen ever, the band were great, but he owned the stage. I was a little starstruck. That scream (in California Bound i think?) that lasted a minute, the suit and shades at the end.... wow. I and my two companions fucking loved it. |
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fbc
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Posted - 07/17/2007 : 08:37:24
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Yeah, I've just spoken to my brother and he says he's still in shock from Sunday. My ears stopped ringing this morning.
Llama, thanks for the photo disc advice. I'm waiting for my other half to get home with the snaps and cd. Apparantly some are pretty pants, shots of the audience. But hey, we can always play spot the Ziggy.
Talking of the Zigstar, he might hit me for this for not asking his permission, but here's one of his photos:
Hey everyone! Look how pissed off Frank is.
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PixieSteve
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Posted - 07/17/2007 : 08:50:36
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i'm just remembering how amazing it all was. ten percenter... i swear the drums were a lot funkier live, i like the song even more now.
hope there's a recording of this show somewhere...
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fbc
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Posted - 07/17/2007 : 09:14:01
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I'm slightly annoyed with myself for not taking a decent camera or anything to record this show. I thought we'd get busted but we just waltzed in without any hassle. I don't think a recording could ever do this show justice but..
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