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ccuadros
* Dog in the Sand *

Chile
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Posted - 04/04/2007 :  04:26:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by OLDMANOTY

I think it's one of those rare albums that hits you straight away (like it has for me) yet continues to reveal new qualities the more you hear it - and it's only the rough version! For me there's a nod to all aspects of previous eras; Pixies (Captain Pasty), early Frank (Threshold Apprehension), Catholics ( Bluefinger), Nashville (Test Pilot Blues). Anyway, it's undoubtedly the soundrack to summer 2007. Felt a little uncomfortable downloading it but I will of course, like most here I'm sure, buy the cd when it comes out.

Incidently, I kept misreading Captain Pasty for Captain Pastry - now what would THAT have been about?!



I´ll do the same, but...where did you get it?? i couldn´t find it
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frankoholic
- FB Fan -

Belgium
38 Posts

Posted - 04/04/2007 :  04:32:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
soulseek
don't tell anyone
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frankoholic
- FB Fan -

Belgium
38 Posts

Posted - 04/04/2007 :  04:36:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm pretty sure that everybody who's posting on this forum is a dedicated fan. Don't feel bad downloading it if you're going to buy it. Those 'downloading is a crime' commercials are really getting into our subconciousness (I know it's bad spelling, too lazy to look it up).
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
11546 Posts

Posted - 04/04/2007 :  04:39:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I would imagine that just about everyone on here will buy the finished product in any case.
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OLDMANOTY
= Cult of Ray =

United Kingdom
452 Posts

Posted - 04/04/2007 :  04:46:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ccuadros

quote:
Originally posted by OLDMANOTY

I think it's one of those rare albums that hits you straight away (like it has for me) yet continues to reveal new qualities the more you hear it - and it's only the rough version! For me there's a nod to all aspects of previous eras; Pixies (Captain Pasty), early Frank (Threshold Apprehension), Catholics ( Bluefinger), Nashville (Test Pilot Blues). Anyway, it's undoubtedly the soundrack to summer 2007. Felt a little uncomfortable downloading it but I will of course, like most here I'm sure, buy the cd when it comes out.

Incidently, I kept misreading Captain Pasty for Captain Pastry - now what would THAT have been about?!



I´ll do the same, but...where did you get it?? i couldn´t find it



I could post the link but not sure if it would be against forum rules. Could someone let me know? If it's not I will - it was via a blog I came across, and not Soulseek.
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <

USA
2963 Posts

Posted - 04/04/2007 :  04:54:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You could always e-mail a forum member and ask politely. Don't know about the rest of you, but this Soulseek business makes me uneasy. If I were trying to obtain a copy of this thing, I'd surely rather get it from a trusted member of the forum.


Please pardon me, for these my wrongs.
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two reelers
= Cult of Ray =

Austria
926 Posts

Posted - 04/04/2007 :  05:29:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
from what i've heard so far i'm not very enthusiastic about the album. am i the only one ?


I joined the cult of Souled American / 'cause they are a damn' fine band
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
11546 Posts

Posted - 04/04/2007 :  05:38:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes.
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remig
* Dog in the Sand *

France
1734 Posts

Posted - 04/04/2007 :  05:39:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes.
What's wrong?
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Wee Mac
- FB Fan -

35 Posts

Posted - 04/04/2007 :  06:07:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by OLDMANOTY


Incidently, I kept misreading Captain Pasty for Captain Pastry - now what would THAT have been about?!



I initially thought it was about pastry:

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two reelers
= Cult of Ray =

Austria
926 Posts

Posted - 04/04/2007 :  06:08:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by remig

Yes.
What's wrong?



i guess i don't like the punk music. (btw, COR is anything but punk to me). i also miss a lead guitar, i think. i looove the raw sound of FB&TC, and some might say, BF is raw too, but i miss the rock. i only hear punk. and i don't like punk. for me, BF doesn't rock.

but i only listended once or twice to a couple of songs on youtube. the first impression was "well, that's a bit annoying". i felt too young for FM/RM and most of the songs on HC, and now it seems i feel too old for BF.

anyway, looking forward to some more listens. probably my mind will change.

I joined the cult of Souled American / 'cause they are a damn' fine band
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
5183 Posts

Posted - 04/04/2007 :  06:17:23  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I'm sure they will

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BF: Mag ik Engels spreken?
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misterwoe
= Cult of Ray =

Greece
675 Posts

Posted - 04/04/2007 :  06:41:09  Show Profile  Visit misterwoe's Homepage  Reply with Quote
So, I finally got the album, and it kicks my ass! The bass is nice and mean on this thing! Hope that doesn't get changed during a final mix, you know? Who played bass on this anyway? Do we know? Do we know ANYTHING?

When I first listened to it, I cranked it all the way to 11, bounced around my room and ran outside into a thorn bush, naked.

All right. Back to work.

I'll be by the pool, playing with my guns.
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Stuart
- The Clopser -

China
2291 Posts

Posted - 04/04/2007 :  06:47:44  Show Profile  Visit Stuart's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Just found it on Soulseek, and am waiting for it to download... I haven't read all these posts but it seems like Frank is returning to his mid 90's style, which I am well looking forward to. Can't wait to see him in Belgium!!!


Because your candle burned too bright, that I almost forgot it was twilight
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fumanbru
* Dog in the Sand *

Canada
1460 Posts

Posted - 04/04/2007 :  07:05:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Great detective work everyone. Especially to Coastline and Billgoodman! Do you like my new font colour? I think i may do a new combination of blue plus orange in honour of the dutch!

And talk about PUNK ROCK CITY!!

Is this for real!! ….Thank you Charles Michael Kittridge Thompson IV Frank Black Francis!!! Pure gold!


This is ADDICTING! I’ve been listening to this non stop for the last week. Tight Black Rubber!! YES!! “Black on black…dressed in white…another day another guilder…mary had a little lamb..her sh*t was pure as snow”!! Classic Frank!

Frank! Violet! Dan the man!! Jason! Mark! And Herman Brood! This is a beautiful combination! Tight. That killer driving bass, the pounding drums, Frank’s guitar playing, Violet’s sweet background vocals, the art, the mystery, the lyrics, another Frank Black history lesson! ..the production…RAW…I love it!

Thank you!


I am not worthy


"I joined the Cult of Frank/ cause I'm a real go-getter!"
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <

USA
2963 Posts

Posted - 04/04/2007 :  08:16:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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The quintessential "Bluefinger" post. That sums it all up.


Please pardon me, for these my wrongs.
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Czar
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
321 Posts

Posted - 04/04/2007 :  08:33:29  Show Profile  Visit Czar's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Fumanbru: boy, you seem as excited as I am.

Seriously, THIS IS AWESOME! It's the only thing I am listening to for two weeks. A real drug.
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Kirk
= Cult of Ray =

USA
633 Posts

Posted - 04/04/2007 :  09:09:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It's been 3 days since I've listened to the album, and every time someone mentions "captain pasty" or "threshold apprehension" in a post, a f*cking 5 second clip of the song runs through my head. The songs are imbedded in my brain.
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kfs
= Cult of Ray =

USA
888 Posts

Posted - 04/04/2007 :  09:59:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've been listening to this music A LOT! I love it!! I'm afraid I'll get tired of listening to it before the release date...but...well, nevermind...I'll never get tired of Bluefinger!

'Angels Come To Comfort You' is my favorite track right now. I love the bouncy guitar part. Makes me wanna dance (and I don't dance!). Also, I'm really enjoying the lyrics.

One of the things I like most about this album is the bass. That got me thinking... doesn't FB have another song containing lyrics that go something like this: "I love the bass / so turn up the bass.." That's been bothering me because I just can't figure out which song it is. Anyone know the answer?
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
11546 Posts

Posted - 04/04/2007 :  10:00:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The beautiful chorus coda of Angels has been stuck in my head the last few days. Reminds me of Alec Eiffel, not that it actually sounds like it, but just in that it's a lovely, unexpected, choral ending!!
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <

USA
2963 Posts

Posted - 04/04/2007 :  10:11:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by kfs

One of the things I like most about this album is the bass. That got me thinking... doesn't FB have another song containing lyrics that go something like this: "I love the bass / so turn up the bass.." That's been bothering me because I just can't figure out which song it is. Anyone know the answer?

Totally agreed, Kelly. The bass is amazing on this album. It's the reason I opted for new headphones the other day, instead of the Morrissey tix. I wanted to really hear that great bass, which my cheapo backup headphones don't give me.

Oh, and the line you're thinking of is from "Fiddle Riddle":

Piano it marks the good pace
Ooh yeah, the good pace
Don't know if it's right, but I like the bass
So turn up the bass



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2Strings
- FB Fan -

United Kingdom
50 Posts

Posted - 04/04/2007 :  10:39:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by two reelers

from what i've heard so far i'm not very enthusiastic about the album. am i the only one ?



First couple of listens for me were slightly dissapointing, but i was not aware of the whole concept, since then it has grown and grown on me. Now i am quite able to say it is one of Frank's best records in my opinion. Once i understood what Frank was doing i started to connect with the songs, and i think it's a very emotional record, and a really nice tribute.

I think probably i have listened to the whole record 15 times or so now, so if you are anything like me just keep going with it and see how it goes. Many of Franks albums have been 'growers' for me, but this album particularly so.

I have to agree you guys about the bass playing also! I play a little myself and i love this guys tone, sounds like he is playing flatwounds to me.
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <

USA
2963 Posts

Posted - 04/04/2007 :  10:43:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What songs do people think would make a good first single from this album? My vote would be for "Your Mouth Into Mine." Besides being my favorite (right now), it's catchy, it's provocative (if you don't know the actual meaning), and it sums up exactly why this album was recorded. But I could make a great case for the title track, too.


Please pardon me, for these my wrongs.
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starmekitten
-= Forum Pistolera =-

United Kingdom
6370 Posts

Posted - 04/04/2007 :  11:09:07  Show Profile  Visit starmekitten's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Who on earth is putting this on soulseek? I would strongly state that I think this is a bad idea. This isn't about being elitest and allowing the few to have it this is about having some sort of reign on the leak. We're fortunate here that we get these things filter through to us. We're very lucky indeed and usually what happens is someone passess it to someone else who will pass it to a select few with a request to keep it quiet and they will pass it to a few more and on the quiet quite a few people are lucky enough to hear something awesome soon. What worries me about this is the lack of anything subtle in the way this album has been handled and discussed. Posting asking for it is bad form. Posting new threads asking for it is worse form. Hell, I personally consider so open a discussion bad form but what do I know. Seeing as it is so open a discussion it's obvious to all who has it and who doesn't. Email someone you know from here and ask them. If you don't know anyones name well enough to take the time to email and ask then you've no business with it anyway. I'm going to start getting real narky if I see another boat of "where can I download this album" posts or any begging.

I hope this virus like spread doesn't affect any future business.

Idiot.
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kfs
= Cult of Ray =

USA
888 Posts

Posted - 04/04/2007 :  11:11:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by coastline

quote:
Originally posted by kfs

One of the things I like most about this album is the bass. That got me thinking... doesn't FB have another song containing lyrics that go something like this: "I love the bass / so turn up the bass.." That's been bothering me because I just can't figure out which song it is. Anyone know the answer?

Totally agreed, Kelly. The bass is amazing on this album. It's the reason I opted for new headphones the other day, instead of the Morrissey tix. I wanted to really hear that great bass, which my cheapo backup headphones don't give me.

Oh, and the line you're thinking of is from "Fiddle Riddle":

Piano it marks the good pace
Ooh yeah, the good pace
Don't know if it's right, but I like the bass
So turn up the bass

Please pardon me, for these my wrongs.


Thanks! Been wondering about that for days!
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <

USA
2963 Posts

Posted - 04/04/2007 :  11:52:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hey, Dutch forum members -- tell us more about "Isala" and "Sassengate," which FB sings about on the title track. I'm probably spelling those wrong, but I'm really curious about them.


Please pardon me, for these my wrongs.
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fumanbru
* Dog in the Sand *

Canada
1460 Posts

Posted - 04/04/2007 :  11:56:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by coastline

Am I the only one who has noticed that most of the songs on "Bluefinger" have fanstastic endings? Often, so much effort goes into the beginnings of songs, and the endings are just a sort of fading-out of what has already gone on in a song (this goes for any artist, not just FB). But on this album, he seriously considered finishing the songs strongly.


Please pardon me, for these my wrongs.



And how about Angels Come To Comfort You!! Absolutely beautiful song with an incredible ending! The ooh's from the heavenly angels!! I get a visual of an ending to a Herman Brood movie...the angels have taken him away..the ambulance sirens in the background. In a way it reminds me a bit of Where Is My Mind at the end of Fight Club.


"I joined the Cult of Frank/ cause I'm a real go-getter!"
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velvety
= Cult of Ray =

Portugal
536 Posts

Posted - 04/04/2007 :  11:56:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by starmekitten

Who on earth is putting this on soulseek? I would strongly state that I think this is a bad idea. This isn't about being elitest and allowing the few to have it this is about having some sort of reign on the leak. We're fortunate here that we get these things filter through to us. We're very lucky indeed and usually what happens is someone passess it to someone else who will pass it to a select few with a request to keep it quiet and they will pass it to a few more and on the quiet quite a few people are lucky enough to hear something awesome soon. What worries me about this is the lack of anything subtle in the way this album has been handled and discussed. Posting asking for it is bad form. Posting new threads asking for it is worse form. Hell, I personally consider so open a discussion bad form but what do I know. Seeing as it is so open a discussion it's obvious to all who has it and who doesn't. Email someone you know from here and ask them. If you don't know anyones name well enough to take the time to email and ask then you've no business with it anyway. I'm going to start getting real narky if I see another boat of "where can I download this album" posts or any begging.

I hope this virus like spread doesn't affect any future business.

Idiot.



The links to download Bluefinger are on many other message boards, so Bleufinger being on Soulseek is not a big surprise. Bluefinger has outgrown this board's reign, i guess.

Narc.
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frankblackphx
= Cult of Ray =

USA
287 Posts

Posted - 04/04/2007 :  12:23:39  Show Profile  Visit frankblackphx's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Angel's come To Comfort You has been the biggest grower on me. When I first heard the album it was my least liked song by far and now has become one of my favorites. The ending is so hypnotizing. It really just relax's me. I also love the odd time signatures at the end. When it feels like it goes into the 3/4 time signature and back to 4/4. The chord strumming at the end is also just classic Frank.

The part that has grown on me the most though is the first half. I love the "They will lead you by the hand" part of the song.



Here I am for your judgement
When the paint grows darker still
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misterwoe
= Cult of Ray =

Greece
675 Posts

Posted - 04/04/2007 :  12:31:43  Show Profile  Visit misterwoe's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by starmekitten

Who on earth is putting this on soulseek? I would strongly state that I think this is a bad idea. This isn't about being elitest and allowing the few to have it this is about having some sort of reign on the leak. We're fortunate here that we get these things filter through to us. We're very lucky indeed and usually what happens is someone passess it to someone else who will pass it to a select few with a request to keep it quiet and they will pass it to a few more and on the quiet quite a few people are lucky enough to hear something awesome soon. What worries me about this is the lack of anything subtle in the way this album has been handled and discussed. Posting asking for it is bad form. Posting new threads asking for it is worse form. Hell, I personally consider so open a discussion bad form but what do I know. Seeing as it is so open a discussion it's obvious to all who has it and who doesn't. Email someone you know from here and ask them. If you don't know anyones name well enough to take the time to email and ask then you've no business with it anyway. I'm going to start getting real narky if I see another boat of "where can I download this album" posts or any begging.

I hope this virus like spread doesn't affect any future business.

Idiot.



I wonder what The Man thinks about all of this. He himself said he wanted to be underground. In the case with the Bluefinger leak -- it doesn't get anymore underground than this, unless he started making tapes with hand-drawn artwork for everyone. Oh wait, that's Daniel Johnston. In that case, I wonder what Johnston thinks about all of this.

I'll be by the pool, playing with my guns.
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johnnyribcage
= Cult of Ray =

USA
776 Posts

Posted - 04/04/2007 :  13:31:33  Show Profile  Visit johnnyribcage's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I finally heard at least a couple tracks off this (from youtube)....
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO-HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BACK IN BLACK!

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Brank_Flack
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
589 Posts

Posted - 04/04/2007 :  13:31:48  Show Profile  Click to see Brank_Flack's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by two reelers

quote:
Originally posted by remig

Yes.
What's wrong?



i guess i don't like the punk music. (btw, COR is anything but punk to me). i also miss a lead guitar, i think. i looove the raw sound of FB&TC, and some might say, BF is raw too, but i miss the rock. i only hear punk. and i don't like punk. for me, BF doesn't rock.

anyway, looking forward to some more listens. probably my mind will change.

I joined the cult of Souled American / 'cause they are a damn' fine band


this reply excites me, because i love punk music and felt the catholics had too much 'rock' lead guitar
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chickenwithtwoheads
= Cult of Ray =

Netherlands
391 Posts

Posted - 04/04/2007 :  13:32:50  Show Profile  Visit chickenwithtwoheads's Homepage  Click to see chickenwithtwoheads's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by coastline

Hey, Dutch forum members -- tell us more about "Isala" and "Sassengate," which FB sings about on the title track. I'm probably spelling those wrong, but I'm really curious about them.



Sassengate (click for large image):



De Sassenpoort is a gate in the city wall of Zwolle. Built in the 15th century as a part of the city fortifications. Architect unknown. It's made of trachyte and tuff.


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chickenwithtwoheads
= Cult of Ray =

Netherlands
391 Posts

Posted - 04/04/2007 :  13:43:07  Show Profile  Visit chickenwithtwoheads's Homepage  Click to see chickenwithtwoheads's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Isala is the ancient name for the river Ijssel, which flows nearby the city of Zwolle.
Het Zwarte water (Black water, "dark water...") is a 19 km long river which is formed just south of the city of Zwolle.

And this is De peperbus ("Pepperbox...")




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chickenwithtwoheads
= Cult of Ray =

Netherlands
391 Posts

Posted - 04/04/2007 :  14:26:28  Show Profile  Visit chickenwithtwoheads's Homepage  Click to see chickenwithtwoheads's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Bluefingers are the inhabitants of Zwolle.

Once upon a time the inhabitants of Zwolle sold out-of-tune churchbells to the city of Kampen.
The people from Kampen weren't very happy with their purchase and decided to 'pay them back.'
They paid the gigantic sum entirely with duiten.
The inhabitants of Zwolle ended up with blue fingers due to the endless counting of all the money.

(Duiten are ancient Dutch coins. 160 duit equal to one gulden (guilder))


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