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jackruby
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USA
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Posted - 04/19/2007 :  07:00:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hey Frog in the Sand,
I believe it is now Friday in Fiji. You may proceed with that track listing. Thank you.
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vilainde
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Niue
7443 Posts

Posted - 04/19/2007 :  07:07:49  Show Profile  Visit vilainde's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Also, it's Friday on my mind.


Denis

"Can you hear me? I aint got shit to say."
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Frog in the Sand
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France
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Posted - 04/19/2007 :  09:06:09  Show Profile  Visit Frog in the Sand's Homepage  Reply with Quote
OK, here are the first two tracks...

- European edition:

Bullet (live)
Nadine (live)

- US/Canada edition:

Deadman's Curve (live)
Raiderman (live)

Two more tomorrow...



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benji
> Teenager of the Year <

New Zealand
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Posted - 04/19/2007 :  09:42:41  Show Profile  Visit benji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
yeah, it's already 4.40am friday where i'm sitting...
i need more!



all i can say, thank god for polio! brian
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Czar
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
321 Posts

Posted - 04/19/2007 :  10:27:18  Show Profile  Visit Czar's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Full band or not full band? That is ze question.
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999
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Posted - 04/19/2007 :  10:35:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I hope there is a live version of Old Black Dawning.
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Frog in the Sand
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France
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Posted - 04/20/2007 :  09:01:08  Show Profile  Visit Frog in the Sand's Homepage  Reply with Quote
- European edition:

Bullet (live)
Nadine (live)
CPL593A (Remake/Remodel) (live)
Living On Soul (live)


- US/Canada edition:

Deadman's Curve (live)
Raiderman (live)
My Terrible Ways (live)
I'll Be Blue (live)

Two more tomorrow!

Edited by - Frog in the Sand on 04/20/2007 09:14:34
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PixieSteve
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Poland
4698 Posts

Posted - 04/20/2007 :  09:08:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Remake Remodel cover

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8Zh-6cPH7I

bryan ferry's licence plate


"I'm such a a news nerd." - Carl

Edited by - PixieSteve on 04/20/2007 09:09:47
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Frog in the Sand
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France
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Posted - 04/20/2007 :  09:13:59  Show Profile  Visit Frog in the Sand's Homepage  Reply with Quote
All riiight. Thanks.

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fbc
-= Modulator =-

United Kingdom
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Posted - 04/20/2007 :  09:24:23  Show Profile  Visit fbc's Homepage  Reply with Quote
i thought it was the plate of some fit girl's car, but hey, who cares.

cheers, Yann, you little tease, you.
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Czar
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
321 Posts

Posted - 04/20/2007 :  10:31:40  Show Profile  Visit Czar's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Froggie: full band or not full band? Ne me laisse pas ainsi dans le doute existentiel.
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Grunty Yodus
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Posted - 04/20/2007 :  10:37:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Looking like full-band from the titles we have been blessed with seeing. Those songs were done with a full band on the Fall 2006 US/Canada tour. Hopefully the version of "Suffering" will make it on there.
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Frog in the Sand
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France
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Posted - 04/20/2007 :  11:10:51  Show Profile  Visit Frog in the Sand's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Czar

Froggie: full band or not full band?



Full band... I think.

Alors les Québécôas ont des problèmes existentiels aussi ? :)

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Edited by - Frog in the Sand on 04/20/2007 11:12:32
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Czar
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
321 Posts

Posted - 04/20/2007 :  12:29:48  Show Profile  Visit Czar's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I want full band of Dead Man's Curve. And the fabled studio version too. Or else I'll cry again.

Euh... voui les problèmes existentiels on connaît, surtout depuis ce lâche abandon par la Métropole en 1763. Depuis on se venge en vous envoyant des floppées de "chanteuses à voix". ;-)
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Niue
7443 Posts

Posted - 04/20/2007 :  13:40:12  Show Profile  Visit vilainde's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Let's do this a bit faster...

1 Bullet
2 Nadine
3 Remake/Remodel
4 Living on soul
5 Burnt out rock'n roll
6 Been all around the world
7 Six sixty six
8 Horrible day
9 (Do what you want) Gyaneshwar
...

By the way, it seems everyone does the mistake, but it's CPL593H, nt A.


Denis

"Can you hear me? I aint got shit to say."
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Frog in the Sand
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France
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Posted - 04/20/2007 :  14:03:33  Show Profile  Visit Frog in the Sand's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Czar

I want full band of Dead Man's Curve. And the fabled studio version too. Or else I'll cry again.

Euh... voui les problèmes existentiels on connaît, surtout depuis ce lâche abandon par la Métropole en 1763. Depuis on se venge en vous envoyant des floppées de "chanteuses à voix". ;-)



Vous avez les "voix", nous avons les "textes" :)

Oh oh, our friend Denis lirait-il Blackolero??

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Jason
* Dog in the Sand *

1446 Posts

Posted - 04/20/2007 :  14:05:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wait, what label is putting it out in the US?

And yes, all of these tracks might be from the tour last Fall (with the Billy Block-Duane Jarvis-Eric Drew Feldman band). So far every song mentioned was in their set.
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vilainde
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Niue
7443 Posts

Posted - 04/20/2007 :  14:08:39  Show Profile  Visit vilainde's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yann: I read it on fnac.com

Seriously... 9 tracks only? Is that a joke?


Denis

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Frog in the Sand
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France
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Posted - 04/20/2007 :  14:18:54  Show Profile  Visit Frog in the Sand's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by vilainde
Seriously... 9 tracks only? Is that a joke?



27 songs / 3 editions = 9 songs on each edition

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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <

Poland
4698 Posts

Posted - 04/20/2007 :  15:29:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i'm glad the cock sucking stopped. thanks denis.


"I'm such a a news nerd." - Carl
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
6214 Posts

Posted - 04/21/2007 :  03:42:43  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Frog in the Sand

quote:
Originally posted by vilainde
Seriously... 9 tracks only? Is that a joke?



27 songs / 3 editions = 9 songs on each edition

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pffff! a bit of a let down, to be honest. With so much great Black material in the vaults and they release 9 live songs (which I presume are brilliant though) on every edition. What about those great demos. There must be more christmass-like material. What about all those great podcast demos-I rather have them than 9 live songs. I rather see a real show.

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Frog in the Sand
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France
2715 Posts

Posted - 04/21/2007 :  05:52:03  Show Profile  Visit Frog in the Sand's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I share your disappointment, Jop, but it must be stressed that "Christmass" is a present to long-time, die-hard fans, while "FB 93-03", like any compilation, is essentially aimed at newbies...

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Frog in the Sand
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France
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Posted - 04/21/2007 :  05:56:52  Show Profile  Visit Frog in the Sand's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Oh, and while I'm at it:

- US/Canadian edition:

Deadman's Curve
Raiderman
My Terrible Ways
I'll Be Blue
Johnny Barleycorn
Ten Percenter
Dog Gone
The Swimmer
Suffering



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Jason
* Dog in the Sand *

1446 Posts

Posted - 04/21/2007 :  09:32:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think the bonus discs look just fine. It's a bonus disc. The could've not added anything to the comps and I'd rather have these than nothing.

Remember that if you had other expectations for the bonus disc, those expectations were artificial. It's not like Frank himself or the record label announced a bonus disc collecting rarities "from the vaults" and then didn't come through. OUR information about the bonus came second or third-hand and in slightly inaccurate form. If you had no idea about it, you'd probably think these were pretty cool.

Rule of thumb: When it comes to new releases, never believe ANYTHING until you hear it straight from a record label. Don't believe the release dates from Amazon; don't believe what someone on an internet board says; half the time, don't even count on what the artist themself says. Sure, get excited about it, but have it in your mind that it also might not be true.

Edited by - Jason on 04/21/2007 09:36:42
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
6214 Posts

Posted - 04/21/2007 :  13:51:58  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
lot's of response!

Haha, don't want to sound like a Frank-basher. But my expectations are always high, without any info about releasedates, bonusdiscs and other things. that's the whole part of being an uber-fan. So to speak. You want more than what's commercial interesting for artists and companies. and I never got the whole let's add another disc with a few songs on it. Ok, 9 songs are more than 4. But if you add another disc and you have lots of material lying around, I would be lying if I said that I wouldn't want it on it. Even if I was a newbie, I'm more attracted to quantity than what's a nice bonus. Still a bit dissapointed, but it's no biggie. It's nice for some people who still think that he was a lousy opening act for the Red Hot Chilli Peppers and don't understand why he's not Black Francis anymore (little do they know).

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BenMumphrey
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USA
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Posted - 04/21/2007 :  15:02:26  Show Profile  Visit BenMumphrey's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The bonus discs rock. Many versions are better than the originals in my opinion... I mixed 4 concerts and picked the best stuff, almost all from a show in Pennsylvania, with a killer Dog Gone and Swimmer from Regina. Had to follow orders to make them 30 mins., but I give you the shortest at 32 mins...


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Originally posted by billgoodman

lot's of response!

Haha, don't want to sound like a Frank-basher. But my expectations are always high, without any info about releasedates, bonusdiscs and other things. that's the whole part of being an uber-fan. So to speak. You want more than what's commercial interesting for artists and companies. and I never got the whole let's add another disc with a few songs on it. Ok, 9 songs are more than 4. But if you add another disc and you have lots of material lying around, I would be lying if I said that I wouldn't want it on it. Even if I was a newbie, I'm more attracted to quantity than what's a nice bonus. Still a bit dissapointed, but it's no biggie. It's nice for some people who still think that he was a lousy opening act for the Red Hot Chilli Peppers and don't understand why he's not Black Francis anymore (little do they know).

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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
6214 Posts

Posted - 04/21/2007 :  15:15:12  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I reckon that you had to make them 30 min. because it's cheaper/less expensive to press a cd of 30 minutes than, say, 70 minutes?


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1965
= Cult of Ray =

Australia
799 Posts

Posted - 04/21/2007 :  15:35:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the info Ben. I am still unsure whether these live tracks are acoustic or full band? I'm assuming all full? Can BM or someone confirm please... cheers.


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BenMumphrey
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USA
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Posted - 04/21/2007 :  17:46:03  Show Profile  Visit BenMumphrey's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Full rocking.
quote:
Originally posted by 1965

Thanks for the info Ben. I am still unsure whether these live tracks are acoustic or full band? I'm assuming all full? Can BM or someone confirm please... cheers.


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BenMumphrey
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USA
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Posted - 04/21/2007 :  17:47:57  Show Profile  Visit BenMumphrey's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yeah, 30 minute CD's are less'n half the cost of 80 minute ones. Duh...
quote:
Originally posted by billgoodman

I reckon that you had to make them 30 min. because it's cheaper/less expensive to press a cd of 30 minutes than, say, 70 minutes?


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pixiestu
> Teenager of the Year <

United Kingdom
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Posted - 04/21/2007 :  18:41:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I hate it when multiple editions of the same thing are released. For some reason it seems to me that somebody, somewhere is just trying to make a few extra quid from obsessive fans. Or have I got it wrong? Why exactly is there three editions?


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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
5454 Posts

Posted - 04/21/2007 :  19:57:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yeah, why 3 editions? Is it expected that someone is going to buy 3 double CDs? Any rabid fan tempted to do that will already have everything on the main best-of CD. I might be tempted to buy a double CD if the bonus CD seems worth it, but that's not happening if it's a mini-CD.

That all being said, I loved Christmass.
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BenMumphrey
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Posted - 04/21/2007 :  20:20:16  Show Profile  Visit BenMumphrey's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The 3rd is pulled from Europe and US material but Japan traditionally gets bonus tracks (don't know why) and thus, the 3rd edition. Sorry for misrepresenting.
quote:
Originally posted by darwin

Yeah, why 3 editions? Is it expected that someone is going to buy 3 double CDs? Any rabid fan tempted to do that will already have everything on the main best-of CD. I might be tempted to buy a double CD if the bonus CD seems worth it, but that's not happening if it's a mini-CD.

That all being said, I loved Christmass.

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Jason
* Dog in the Sand *

1446 Posts

Posted - 04/21/2007 :  21:50:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Japan gets bonus tracks because, in Japan, domestic Japanese CDs are more expensive than imported CDs (from America, Europe, etc.). Bonus tracks help them to compete with the cheaper imports.

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billgoodman
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Netherlands
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Posted - 04/22/2007 :  02:56:36  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by BenMumphrey

Yeah, 30 minute CD's are less'n half the cost of 80 minute ones. Duh...
quote:
Originally posted by billgoodman

I reckon that you had to make them 30 min. because it's cheaper/less expensive to press a cd of 30 minutes than, say, 70 minutes?


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on a more amateuristic scale, places like www.kunaki.com let you press cd's with no boundaries in time, all at the same cost. I know you can do anything against it, but it's just a capitalistic system. Don't know if all pressing companies have those rules.
I'm gonna stop complaining, just one more suggestion: what about a special website with bonus material. That would be great. Wait a minute, www.frankblack.net is that website!

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