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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~

Belize
5305 Posts

Posted - 04/04/2007 :  18:30:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks Denis.

Does anyone have word if we can buy it from the amazon FB store? (I forgot the link to that).

I would rather order thru that is that's a possible.

bluefinger

Edited by - Daisy Girl on 04/04/2007 18:32:04
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mikaelp75
- FB Fan -

131 Posts

Posted - 04/05/2007 :  07:47:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think the official one will have a better chance of attracting new fans than anything I would come up with, which could be something like this (20 track limit):

1. Los Angeles
2. Thalassocracy
3. Freedom Rock
4. Two Reelers
5. Speedy Marie
6. Men In Black
7. Man Of Steel
8. Can I Get A Witness?
9. All My Ghosts
10. Suffering
11. So. Bay
12. I Think I'm Starting To Lose It
13. Western Star
14. St Francis Dam Disaster
15. Pan American Highway
16. Bullet
17. His Kingly Cave
18. Chip Away Boy
19. Massif Centrale
20. Manitoba
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Jefrey
= Cult of Ray =

USA
918 Posts

Posted - 04/06/2007 :  02:08:08  Show Profile  Visit Jefrey's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by vilainde

quote:
Originally posted by rivum

quote:
Originally posted by kromkamp

The only definitive 'why isnt it on there' is Bullet, IMO. As was discussed in the other forum, it really is the quintessential FB&TCs song :)



i agree completely, that is something i will never understand.
bullet is by far one of my favorite frank tracks.
sad to not see it on there.

rivum



Believe me. There will be a live version of it on disc 2. It simply can't be another way.


Denis

"Can you hear me? I aint got shit to say."



I'd love also a live version of "I'll Be Blue" from the last solo tour. I hope they include one of those - I'll never forget it. And Billy Block rules the skins. I hope he makes an appearance.

== jeffamerica ==

-He played piano really fuckin' good.
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
6214 Posts

Posted - 04/06/2007 :  02:33:40  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Don't know if the second disc will also be 1993-2003, because that would rule out any of the post-2003 shows, so no Billy Block

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BF: Mag ik Engels spreken?
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Chris Knight
= Cult of Ray =

USA
899 Posts

Posted - 04/06/2007 :  22:53:49  Show Profile  Visit Chris Knight's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I made my own 1993-2003 comp last year. One CD, chronological.

los angeles
old black dawning
czar
speedy marie
white noise maker
superabound
freedom rock
i don't wanna hurt you
men in black
dance war
all my ghosts
doggone
suffering
skeleton man
bad harmony
western star
if it takes all night
i'll be blue
robert onion
the black rider
bartholomew
southbound bevy
whiskey in your shoes
everything is new
the snake
goodbye lorraine
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Johnny Yen
= Cult of Ray =

USA
408 Posts

Posted - 04/07/2007 :  00:02:26  Show Profile  Visit Johnny Yen's Homepage  Reply with Quote
If It Takes All Night, 21 Reasons, Horrible Day and Preacher's Daughter should be on there. Fuck you guys.

Will any non-frank fans actually buy this? I have my doubts. Seems like such a filler release when all this great new stuff is already recorded. I guess it would be more exciting if I hadn't already heard Threshold Apprehension and Fort Wayne. It's so hard to resist leaked stuff.

The live/demos will be good, but I'm ready for some real new releases.

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Jefrey
= Cult of Ray =

USA
918 Posts

Posted - 04/07/2007 :  01:54:09  Show Profile  Visit Jefrey's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yeah, I don't get it either. Who is this for?

I can't imagine what could be on the second disc that we haven't already heard that would be worth releasing. Does that make any sense? We already have Snake Oil and One More Road For The Hit, which I've listened to about once each. I can't imagine that whatever's left in the vault can be all that great.

== jeffamerica ==

-He played piano really fuckin' good.
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
6214 Posts

Posted - 04/07/2007 :  04:24:42  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
there are two Best Of's coming, right. Let's have Snake Oil and One More Road For the Hit as the second discs. I would kill for those compilations on real cd's, mostly because I like some B-sides more than albumsongs.

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BF: Mag ik Engels spreken?
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =

Canada
11687 Posts

Posted - 04/07/2007 :  05:20:55  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I just wish there had been this sort of FB news when I had a more stable internet source.


"Now you're officially my woman. Kudos. I can't say I don't envy you."
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Gustav
- FB Fan -

Netherlands
25 Posts

Posted - 04/10/2007 :  03:38:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
According to http://www.muse.ie/music-ireland-music_news-international_news/frank-black-to-release-new-album/spId/D862A286-90C3-A2AD-926E423DF111B35D.html

The full track listing is:

(From Frank Black):

1. Los Angeles

2. Ten Percenter

3. Czar

4. Old Black Dawning

(From Teenager Of The Year)

5. Abstract Plain

6. Calistan

7. Speedy Marie

8. Headache

9. Freedom Rock

(From The Cult Of Ray)

10. Men In Black

11.You Ain't Me

12. I Don't Want To Hurt You

(From Frank Black And The Catholics)

13. All My Ghosts

14. I Gotta Move

(From Pistolero)

15. Bad Harmony

16. Western Star

(From Dog In The Sand)

17. Robert Onion

18. Hermaphroditos

(From Devils Workshop)

19. Velvety

(From Black Letter Days)

20. California Bound

(From Show Me Your Tears)

21. Massif Centrale

22. Manitoba

("hidden track")

23.Threshold Apprehension
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endofmiles
- FB Fan -

Switzerland
69 Posts

Posted - 04/10/2007 :  07:18:08  Show Profile  Click to see endofmiles's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Thanks Denis for all the info,

I've made so many compilations through the years. The "very best", "very very best", the "chill out, I'm on the road best", "Frank romantic best", "punk Frank".
But I know that I will buy 93-03 ;-)
mmmh, no b-sides tracks? "Man of Steel"? "village of the Sun"? Nevermind, the tracklist is ok for me
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Jason
* Dog in the Sand *

1446 Posts

Posted - 04/10/2007 :  07:28:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
According to the original mention here of a two-disc set, the second disc are live concert recordings and demos. I don't know how true that is, but in that case it would rule out b-sides. So one disc for the newbies, one disc for the hardcore. Sounds good to me.

As for who this comp is for, how many times has this forum seen a post from someone saying "Hey I really like the Pixies and I kinda dig that 'Los Angeles' song, but Frank has so many solo records that I'm not sure where to go next. What should I do?"* About 700 times, I think. THAT'S who this comp is for.

Also, compilations have a way of re-invigorating an artist's catalog sales. The compilation will be reviewed alongside new records. The post-Pixies career will be re-evaluated in the music press. Even some non-fans who don't buy the compilation will read the reviews, decide Frank's music sounds interesting, and maybe go buy Dog in the Sand or something.

* not to mention the number of times I've encountered this sentiment on other forums and in personal conversations with fans of the Pixies and/or dabblers in Frank's solo/Catholics period.
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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~

Belize
5305 Posts

Posted - 04/10/2007 :  16:25:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Cool. I like that idea one newbie disc and one hardcore. :) I think the newbie disc will be a great mix and the hardcore disc... I can't wait to get my hands on it.

bluefinger

Edited by - Daisy Girl on 04/10/2007 16:27:41
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Ziggy
* Dog in the Sand *

United Kingdom
2463 Posts

Posted - 04/10/2007 :  17:25:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yeah, I fully support this compilation. It should serve as a good introduction, and I think it's the best bet.

I'll be interested to hear what disc 2 comprises. Simply repacking 'Christmass' seems unlikely.
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perrom
- FB Fan -

USA
30 Posts

Posted - 04/10/2007 :  20:07:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I can't strongly enoughly stately how weak it would bely to put Christmass in as the 2nd disc of this compilation. Go with B sides or a live album. I am more interested in new stuff quite frankly and I'm ready for some Teenagerly stuff. If Frank is done with Teenagerly stuff, he needs to tell us so I can go start freaking out over the Silver Jews or something but I need to know where he stands. Go Mavericks.

"I`m drinking antiknock
I do a mantra and I know PL/1"
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Jason
* Dog in the Sand *

1446 Posts

Posted - 04/11/2007 :  12:07:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I see no reason to think disc 2 will be Christmass. Christmass only started showing up in stores a month or two ago.

As the podcasts have shown us, there is no shortage of interesting demos and good-sounding live recordings in existence. It wouldn't surprise me if a few of the things we've heard in the podcasts end up on the comp. I'd be all for having that "Nadine" demo, for example, on an official release.
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perrom
- FB Fan -

USA
30 Posts

Posted - 04/11/2007 :  15:32:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
How about a new release / new release? I'm getting very emotional about this. We need some TOTY.

"I`m drinking antiknock
I do a mantra and I know PL/1"
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Blaireau Man
- FB Fan -

France
16 Posts

Posted - 04/12/2007 :  02:39:10  Show Profile  Visit Blaireau Man's Homepage  Click to see Blaireau Man's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
My post of the year:

No Bullet? It sucks...

(I don't want to hurt you? so don't put this song on the best of)

NH3 OH I LOve YoU So Much
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kromkamp
= Cult of Ray =

291 Posts

Posted - 04/16/2007 :  11:10:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Does anyone else think it bizarre that FB claims to hold Devil's Workshop as his favorite FB album, and yet he treats the songs on it like they dont exist?

Here's another case in point - the lone track on the best of isnt even an original composition from that era, but a dusted off pixies b-side!
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Grotesque
= Cult of Ray =

France
777 Posts

Posted - 04/16/2007 :  14:03:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by kromkamp

Does anyone else think it bizarre that FB claims to hold Devil's Workshop as his favorite FB album, and yet he treats the songs on it like they dont exist?

Here's another case in point - the lone track on the best of isnt even an original composition from that era, but a dusted off pixies b-side!




What's that pixies B-side story? Isn't it Black Francis' next vynil single?
Yet, what you say about D W is right and also works with all the albums after the first two. It seems the best of gives more respect to the albums that already had some comercial success.
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Niue
7443 Posts

Posted - 04/17/2007 :  00:17:13  Show Profile  Visit vilainde's Homepage  Reply with Quote
He was talking about Velvety, Grotesque.


Denis

"Can you hear me? I aint got shit to say."
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Stuart
- The Clopser -

China
2291 Posts

Posted - 04/17/2007 :  04:24:53  Show Profile  Visit Stuart's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I'm surpised Velvety is on the best of... the Pixies version is better with no lyrics.

Because your candle burned too bright, that I almost forgot it was twilight
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Frog in the Sand
-+ Le premiere frog +-

France
2715 Posts

Posted - 04/17/2007 :  12:54:48  Show Profile  Visit Frog in the Sand's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Someone just sent me the tracklist of the 2nd CD, but I'm not allowed to post it before Friday.

In fact, there will be two editions, each with a different tracklist. From what I know, all tracks are live - no demos.

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BLACKOLERO le only Frank Black / Pixies site 100% in français
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fbc
-= Modulator =-

United Kingdom
4903 Posts

Posted - 04/17/2007 :  13:54:09  Show Profile  Visit fbc's Homepage  Reply with Quote
(J'adore le juke-box)
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Frog in the Sand
-+ Le premiere frog +-

France
2715 Posts

Posted - 04/17/2007 :  13:59:30  Show Profile  Visit Frog in the Sand's Homepage  Reply with Quote
(you're too good, sir)

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BLACKOLERO le only Frank Black / Pixies site 100% in français
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Niue
7443 Posts

Posted - 04/17/2007 :  14:13:20  Show Profile  Visit vilainde's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Frog in the Sand
From what I know, all tracks are live - no demos.



That's a letdown for me if it's true. On Christmass I only listen to the studio tracks.


Denis

"Can you hear me? I aint got shit to say."
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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <

Poland
4698 Posts

Posted - 04/17/2007 :  14:16:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
same here really, except for dead man's curve and the water


"After coming into contact with a religious man I always feel I must wash my hands." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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pixiestu
> Teenager of the Year <

United Kingdom
2564 Posts

Posted - 04/17/2007 :  14:37:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hopefully they're live tracks with a full band. Might be just me but I've heard enough acoustic versions of stuff. With a full band it's a little more interesting to listen to. I'm just speaking for myself here, of course.


"The arc of triumph"
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Czar
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
321 Posts

Posted - 04/17/2007 :  15:19:34  Show Profile  Visit Czar's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
That's a letdown for me if it's true. On Christmass I only listen to the studio tracks.

Denis



Nooon?!?!? Pas vrai? Come on, what's wrong with you? I bet you will vote for Ségolène on Sunday, too. Pffffft.

Ségolène... that would make an interesting title for a FB track, right beside Héloïse.
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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~

Belize
5305 Posts

Posted - 04/17/2007 :  15:48:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Frog in the Sand

Someone just sent me the tracklist of the 2nd CD, but I'm not allowed to post it before Friday.

In fact, there will be two editions, each with a different tracklist. From what I know, all tracks are live - no demos.

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BLACKOLERO le only Frank Black / Pixies site 100% in français



Two editions?? That's awesome!

bluefinger
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
5454 Posts

Posted - 04/17/2007 :  16:07:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You can now buy 40 copies!
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BenMumphrey
- FB Fan -

USA
20 Posts

Posted - 04/17/2007 :  20:40:18  Show Profile  Visit BenMumphrey's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Three editions -- USA, Europe, Japan...

quote:
Originally posted by Daisy Girl

quote:
Originally posted by Frog in the Sand

Someone just sent me the tracklist of the 2nd CD, but I'm not allowed to post it before Friday.

In fact, there will be two editions, each with a different tracklist. From what I know, all tracks are live - no demos.

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BLACKOLERO le only Frank Black / Pixies site 100% in français



Two editions?? That's awesome!

bluefinger

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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <

USA
3111 Posts

Posted - 04/17/2007 :  20:46:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for dropping by, and for the info, Ben. Always appreciated. So who the heck forgot to put "Bullet" on this thing?


Please pardon me, for these my wrongs.
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prozacrat
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1186 Posts

Posted - 04/18/2007 :  02:25:00  Show Profile  Visit prozacrat's Homepage  Click to see prozacrat's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Ditto, Ben. Any more specifics are, of course, always welcome. :)

"Wait. Hold on. This is where the Pixies draw the line. We don't do the beach ball thing." - Frank
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BenMumphrey
- FB Fan -

USA
20 Posts

Posted - 04/18/2007 :  06:54:32  Show Profile  Visit BenMumphrey's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I don't know who chose the songs for the Best Of...
quote:
Originally posted by coastline

Thanks for dropping by, and for the info, Ben. Always appreciated. So who the heck forgot to put "Bullet" on this thing?


Please pardon me, for these my wrongs.

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