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1965
= Cult of Ray =

Australia
799 Posts

Posted - 10/22/2007 :  06:53:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sorry if I am duplicating, but I could not find this mentioned elsehwere. I notice the T-shirts are now up on blaackfrancis dot net for anyone who is interested:

http://www.blackfrancis.net/webstore/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=65


I have the key to #902

soundofataris
= Cult of Ray =

USA
715 Posts

Posted - 10/22/2007 :  07:38:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
the picture on the bottom one looks awfully familiar...

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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <

South Sandwich Islands
4204 Posts

Posted - 10/22/2007 :  08:25:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Are they ringers?
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jediroller
* Dog in the Sand *

France
1718 Posts

Posted - 10/22/2007 :  08:32:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
HOLY SHIT. They used my photo without asking. Time to get me a good lawyer *evil grin*

Thanks for the link.


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"Les Blackolero, y sont forts en sacramant" - Czar | 06/26/2007 | 20:10:34

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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
5453 Posts

Posted - 10/22/2007 :  08:43:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yeah, those shirts were being sold on the tour. Did they really not buy the rights for the photo?
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jediroller
* Dog in the Sand *

France
1718 Posts

Posted - 10/22/2007 :  08:52:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I got a message back in July asking for the permission to use the picture as a "pack shot" on iTunes. They never said anything about T-shirts!





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"Les Blackolero, y sont forts en sacramant" - Czar | 06/26/2007 | 20:10:34

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soundofataris
= Cult of Ray =

USA
715 Posts

Posted - 10/22/2007 :  09:14:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hey, I'm in my last year of law school! I'm in. Let's force a settlement where frank has to release a mega catholics boxset and record personalized songs for us.

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soundofataris
= Cult of Ray =

USA
715 Posts

Posted - 10/22/2007 :  09:17:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm seriousness, I think that's amazingly cool, jediroller. Congratulations on taking such an iconic shot.

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remig
* Dog in the Sand *

France
1734 Posts

Posted - 10/22/2007 :  09:19:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hey. It's only for U.S. customers.

It would have been fun to wear a FB tee with US tour dates.

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jediroller
* Dog in the Sand *

France
1718 Posts

Posted - 10/22/2007 :  10:15:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for both messages, soundofataris. Who knows, I might be your first case :)


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"Les Blackolero, y sont forts en sacramant" - Czar | 06/26/2007 | 20:10:34

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pixiestu
> Teenager of the Year <

United Kingdom
2564 Posts

Posted - 10/22/2007 :  11:44:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Why is it U.S. only?

I was really liking the look of that Harmonica T-shirt too. :(


"The arc of triumph"
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mr.biscuitdoughhead
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1729 Posts

Posted - 10/22/2007 :  13:00:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
oh my golly!

so cool! the harmonica one at least. that blue one is kinda ugly, imo.


Every thought a ricochet...
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Niue
7441 Posts

Posted - 10/22/2007 :  14:17:52  Show Profile  Visit vilainde's Homepage  Reply with Quote
What? US only? WTF?


Denis

"Can you hear me? I aint got shit to say."
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Llamadance
> Teenager of the Year <

United Kingdom
2543 Posts

Posted - 10/22/2007 :  14:38:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
heh, that's funny, it gives the option to change currency, but doesn't allow overseas shipping.

Have to say, that's a bit low not asking for permission on the photo jedi. YOu could ask that proceeds go to fb.net though ;)


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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <

USA
3111 Posts

Posted - 10/22/2007 :  17:31:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
FB's a classy guy. It doesn't seem like him to misappropriate somebody else's intellectual property like that. Must be the new manager.


Please pardon me, for these my wrongs.
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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~

Belize
5305 Posts

Posted - 10/22/2007 :  17:59:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
very cool designs, indeed :) it was a tough choice but I went with the harmonica design.

At $15, it's a good deal.

We're all obscure fans.- trobrianders

Edited by - Daisy Girl on 10/22/2007 18:01:08
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Czar
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
321 Posts

Posted - 10/22/2007 :  18:08:53  Show Profile  Visit Czar's Homepage  Reply with Quote
AH-HA! great minds think alike. But why buy a tee shirt when you can DIY?

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Do you think the Pixies were a brouillon of Black Francis?
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benji
> Teenager of the Year <

New Zealand
3426 Posts

Posted - 10/22/2007 :  18:19:09  Show Profile  Visit benji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
well i just bought a t-shirt for myself in New Zealand.
they don't show up on the Rest Of World section, but i ordered mine thru the US section no problems.
will see whether it works or not, but i'm pretty sure i've paid for it.
got the emails and everything.
US$18 all up...so under NZ$25 not bad.....



all i can say, thank god for polio! brian
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
11546 Posts

Posted - 10/22/2007 :  18:24:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wahey, gotta get me the Jedi shirt!

Edited by - Carl on 10/22/2007 18:25:24
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jackruby
- FB Fan -

USA
71 Posts

Posted - 10/22/2007 :  18:37:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It was a tough choice, but I had to go with the harmonica shirt.
Was anybody else not able to find a little box in which to check the size you want? I just wrote the size I wanted in the 'special comments' box--hope that works.
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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~

Belize
5305 Posts

Posted - 10/22/2007 :  18:39:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
that's what I did too, jackruby...

We're all obscure fans.- trobrianders
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benji
> Teenager of the Year <

New Zealand
3426 Posts

Posted - 10/22/2007 :  20:12:20  Show Profile  Visit benji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
and me too. thought it might just have been me who was blind, but i guess not and that makes me feel much better...



all i can say, thank god for polio! brian
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
6118 Posts

Posted - 10/23/2007 :  00:40:59  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by coastline

FB's a classy guy. It doesn't seem like him to misappropriate somebody else's intellectual property like that. Must be the new manager.


Please pardon me, for these my wrongs.



no the manager is a classy guy too...who can we frame now?

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jediroller
* Dog in the Sand *

France
1718 Posts

Posted - 10/23/2007 :  00:51:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That's true, Jop. Frank's manager asked me for permission to use the picture on an iTunes release, I can't imagine he would deliberately go and print T-shirts without letting me know first. There's bound to have been some kind of misunderstanding along the way. I'm sure this will be settled quickly and among gentlemen.


Awesome! I fuckin' shot this!
"Les Blackolero, y sont forts en sacramant" - Czar | 06/26/2007 | 20:10:34

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Edited by - jediroller on 10/23/2007 23:21:33
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remig
* Dog in the Sand *

France
1734 Posts

Posted - 10/23/2007 :  01:41:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A little question Jedi: were you fully allowed to take pictures of the show? ;)
You can't let people take pictures, tape your shows without bothering them and in the end ask for permission to use this material. I think it was nice already that they asked you first for the Itunes release.

This could end up as no more pictures and taping at FB shows...

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jediroller
* Dog in the Sand *

France
1718 Posts

Posted - 10/23/2007 :  01:45:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I had a photo pass. Which has nothing to do with copyright anyway. I don't understand your point.



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"Les Blackolero, y sont forts en sacramant" - Czar | 06/26/2007 | 20:10:34

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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
6118 Posts

Posted - 10/23/2007 :  05:36:37  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I don't know what you can legally do and not, but I suspect that jedi would be fine if they had just asked him?

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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <

USA
3111 Posts

Posted - 10/23/2007 :  05:44:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It's all a bit ironic -- in this case, the artist is the bootlegger and the fan is the jilted party.



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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =

Canada
11687 Posts

Posted - 10/23/2007 :  06:23:24  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Well, it's one thing to put the pic in a disc. The picture itself isn't being sold. But to create a product based on that pic, I definitely think that's a separate thing and they should've contacted jedi on it at the very least. I imagine it will be solved amicably and was an oversight, though. Jedi have you contacted them? Did you want me to?


"Now you're officially my woman. Kudos. I can't say I don't envy you."
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <

USA
3111 Posts

Posted - 10/23/2007 :  06:47:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Dean, just give me Frank's phone number and I'll call him.


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jediroller
* Dog in the Sand *

France
1718 Posts

Posted - 10/23/2007 :  06:58:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for your input everybody. Don't worry, this is being taken care of as we speak.


Cohen, why would you want my phone number? ;)

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"Les Blackolero, y sont forts en sacramant" - Czar | 06/26/2007 | 20:10:34

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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =

Mexico
15297 Posts

Posted - 10/23/2007 :  07:59:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
my girlfriend got one of your shirts jedi. i figured for sure you had been compensated for the use of your photo
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <

USA
3111 Posts

Posted - 10/23/2007 :  08:49:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
jedi, did you give them the high-res version?


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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <

South Sandwich Islands
4204 Posts

Posted - 10/23/2007 :  08:52:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I used to have a website with a bunch of my photos until I started seeing them appear for sale in various places. Someone was selling "autographed" photos of Frank on ebay using my photo (until floop alerted me). Then I saw one on a band's DVD cover. I emailed the singer and he was supposed to give me a copy but never did. It's nice to see your handiwork in a visible place but it only feels good until you realize someone's taking advantage of you.
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =

Mexico
15297 Posts

Posted - 10/23/2007 :  08:53:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by BLT

I used to have a website with a bunch of my photos until I started seeing them appear for sale in various places. Someone was selling "autographed" photos of Frank on ebay using my photo (until floop alerted me)



i never got paid for that by the way
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <

South Sandwich Islands
4204 Posts

Posted - 10/23/2007 :  08:54:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by floop

quote:
Originally posted by BLT

I used to have a website with a bunch of my photos until I started seeing them appear for sale in various places. Someone was selling "autographed" photos of Frank on ebay using my photo (until floop alerted me)



i never got paid for that by the way



The check's in the mail.
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