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Erebus
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1834 Posts

Posted - 12/22/2006 :  10:15:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by fbc
regarding the pixies/frank songs: has anyone ever known an artist to release the same songs on different albums with different bands? (i can't think straight this morning)

Lou Reed, with "Sweet Jane", though the later version is live. It is a totally different presentation though. Speaking of Reed, a couple days ago I read about him putting on "Berlin" live and complete, with Steve Hunter.

edit: Pete Townsend also has done it through the years.


Edited by - Erebus on 12/22/2006 10:21:12
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s_wrenn
* Dog in the Sand *

Ireland
1851 Posts

Posted - 12/22/2006 :  10:36:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Nothing again today. I really hope there's post tomorrow...


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Grotesque
= Cult of Ray =

France
777 Posts

Posted - 12/22/2006 :  11:19:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by fbc



regarding the pixies/frank songs: has anyone ever known an artist to release the same songs on different albums with different bands? (i can't think straight this morning)




Frank Black: Velvety.

They care too much for the pixies proper identity. In 1990 when you listened to Bossanova you could have said : "Wait, yhis is not my pixies. It s all surf and soft." For trompe le monde a lot of people said it was turning into britpop. Make anything but NOT a pixies album. The pixies fan are not that old, they can still accept a bit of adventure.
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edbanky
= Cult of Ray =

Burkina Faso (Upper Volta)
388 Posts

Posted - 12/22/2006 :  11:32:20  Show Profile  Visit edbanky's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by fbc

or maybe they're the Pixies songs Frank wrote for a new Pixies record. You know, the ones that got "rejected" by who knows who.

This sounds absolutely correct. Frank has a fun sense of humor.

Incidentally, still:

PROCESSED

M.F.


Tiny Axe (MySpace)
Me singing

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fbc
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United Kingdom
4903 Posts

Posted - 12/22/2006 :  12:25:54  Show Profile  Visit fbc's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I'm quite surprised to see Dead Man's Curve down as Black Francis. I'm just so used to it being played as part of this autumn/winter's tour I never contemplated the Pixies playing it. I can now. Could (have) be(en) fun to hear.

I'm not surprised with Don't Get Me Wrong. Kim's harmony over the top of Frank would have suited it so well, even though the FB version is just perfect without her and will always be the definitive, for me.

Edited by - fbc on 12/22/2006 12:26:58
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Adam
= Cult of Ray =

USA
505 Posts

Posted - 12/22/2006 :  14:16:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I haven't received my copy yet, but it was mailed earlier this week. That is good news. In the mean time I received the REM Fanclub Christmas single in the mail today. It is very good and will tide me over until FB gets here.

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Llamadance
> Teenager of the Year <

United Kingdom
2543 Posts

Posted - 12/22/2006 :  14:27:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by vilainde

Steve, maybe you could listen to the CD and have your kids give you the DVD on Christmas day?


Denis

"Can you hear me? I aint got shit to say."



aha, tempting as it is, I'll keep it all together. Like Dean said, I'll be all excited on xmas day now. And then I can post in this thread about how great it is. And ignore my kids.


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1965
= Cult of Ray =

Australia
799 Posts

Posted - 12/22/2006 :  14:34:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by fbc

I'm quite surprised to see Dead Man's Curve down as Black Francis. I'm just so used to it being played as part of this autumn/winter's tour I never contemplated the Pixies playing it. I can now. Could (have) be(en) fun to hear.

I am pretty sure I read several few weeks ago that FB, EDF, Dwayne Jarvis & Bill Block recorded Dead Man's Curve + That Burnt Out Rock & Roll (plus maybe some other/s) in a studio somewhere. That's not to say the Pixies won't ever record it either some day, who knows...


MCMLXV

Edited by - 1965 on 12/23/2006 13:47:40
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1965
= Cult of Ray =

Australia
799 Posts

Posted - 12/22/2006 :  14:39:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by fbc

has anyone ever known an artist to release the same songs on different albums with different bands?

On a FB related note, Bryan Ferry/Roxy Music did 2 versions of Re-Make/Re-Model.


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1965
= Cult of Ray =

Australia
799 Posts

Posted - 12/22/2006 :  14:40:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Btw, what label is the CD/DVD on? I know it's been processed/distributed by Cooking Vinyl, but are they actually the label as well?


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fbc
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United Kingdom
4903 Posts

Posted - 12/23/2006 :  13:10:04  Show Profile  Visit fbc's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I remember now the Dead Man's Curve post, '65. I'm so glad it's going to be an fB track.

And Cooking Vinyl the label is.
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Grunty Yodus
- FB Fan -

USA
51 Posts

Posted - 12/23/2006 :  13:33:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Roxy Music also did 2 versions of "Angel Eyes" from the "Manifesto" album. One version is a rocker and the other is the more "poppy" dance-like version that you will mostly come across.
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kelladwella
= Cult of Ray =

Germany
729 Posts

Posted - 12/23/2006 :  14:22:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Not only didn't I get fbc's package, but neither did I get mine in time for the christmas holidays. Hmm...

So, in a way, I'm looking forward to wednesday, when the postal sevice is working again. Like me. Ah well, you can't have it all, I guess...
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The Holiday Son
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France
2010 Posts

Posted - 12/23/2006 :  14:36:33  Show Profile  Visit The Holiday Son's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Nothing for me in my mailbox today.
Tuesday hopefully...
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kelladwella
= Cult of Ray =

Germany
729 Posts

Posted - 12/23/2006 :  14:38:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Tuesday is not a holiday in France?
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The Holiday Son
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France
2010 Posts

Posted - 12/23/2006 :  14:52:26  Show Profile  Visit The Holiday Son's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Nope. Only Monday.
(I though the 26th (boxing day, right?) was only a holiday in the uk)
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kelladwella
= Cult of Ray =

Germany
729 Posts

Posted - 12/23/2006 :  15:02:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Don't know about 'boxing day'. Here in germany it's 'Zweiter Weihnachtsfeiertag'. :-) And a holiday.

Wich means for me the chrismass-season begins at wednesday at the earliest.
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fbc
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United Kingdom
4903 Posts

Posted - 12/23/2006 :  15:14:41  Show Profile  Visit fbc's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Holiday Son

Nothing for me in my mailbox today.
Tuesday hopefully...
quote:
Originally posted by kelladwella

Don't know about 'boxing day'. Here in germany it's 'Zweiter Weihnachtsfeiertag'. :-) And a holiday.

Wich means for me the chrismass-season begins at wednesday at the earliest.



you never know, santa works in mysterious <cough! inbox> ways
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Ziggy
* Dog in the Sand *

United Kingdom
2463 Posts

Posted - 12/23/2006 :  15:45:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Arrived today, happily.

'Dead Man's Curve' is listed as 'Black Francis' on the CD, and 'Frank Black' on the DVD. lol.

Anyway, a delightful collection of songs.
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fbc
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United Kingdom
4903 Posts

Posted - 12/23/2006 :  16:08:11  Show Profile  Visit fbc's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Wow! That took longer than mine. We must have the same postman. I guess he's still on the same round still, poor chap. And well spotted regarding DMC. Eagle Eye Ziggy, "ooh.......Save tonight, and fight the break of dawn. Come tomorrow..."
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Ziggy
* Dog in the Sand *

United Kingdom
2463 Posts

Posted - 12/23/2006 :  17:11:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hahaha!

Love Frank's vocal on 'Demon Girl'. The lyrics feel at times to be a knowing pastiche of certain themes he's used before; falling for a girl from another world etc. Really fun song. Puts a big grin on the face!
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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~

Belize
5305 Posts

Posted - 12/23/2006 :  17:22:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Twas the night before Christmass and all through the forum, every one was a flutter about the new CD and trying to keep the decorum.

The stockings were hung by the chimney with care in hopes that some new music would soon be there. The children were nestled all snug in their beds, while visions of Frank Black danced in their heads.
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mantaraysallright
- FB Fan -

USA
110 Posts

Posted - 12/23/2006 :  17:28:05  Show Profile  Visit mantaraysallright's Homepage  Reply with Quote
There should be some legal way for me to hear this album before I get it...mail service takes too long...I'm jealous :(
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Brank_Flack
* Dog in the Sand *

Canada
1020 Posts

Posted - 12/23/2006 :  20:30:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
out of curiosity is it in a digipack like raiderman? i love that packaging
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Jason
* Dog in the Sand *

1446 Posts

Posted - 12/23/2006 :  21:46:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Erebus

quote:
Originally posted by fbc
regarding the pixies/frank songs: has anyone ever known an artist to release the same songs on different albums with different bands? (i can't think straight this morning)

Lou Reed, with "Sweet Jane", though the later version is live. It is a totally different presentation though. Speaking of Reed, a couple days ago I read about him putting on "Berlin" live and complete, with Steve Hunter.

edit: Pete Townsend also has done it through the years.





Lemmy Kilmister's song "Motorhead" was a Hawkwind song before it was a Motorhead song. "Lost Johnny", as well. In fact, "Lost Johnny" was written by both Lemmy and Mick Farren. The song came out on a Hawkwind record, then was also recorded for a Motorhead record, as well as for a Mick Farren solo single.

I personally wouldn't be phased at all by Frank re-recording any of these new Christmass songs with them Pixies. I like different versions of songs. If they're all good, I don't get caught up in what's "definitive" and what isn't. But it's probably not even worth discussing at this point in time, as no one (not even the Pixies) knows IF the Pixies will even make a new record.

Still looking forward to [i]Christmass[i] here in the Lone Star state. A happy dance will be done when it arrives.
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fbc
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United Kingdom
4903 Posts

Posted - 12/24/2006 :  03:49:06  Show Profile  Visit fbc's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jason

I personally wouldn't be phased at all by Frank re-recording any of these new Christmass songs with them Pixies. I like different versions of songs. If they're all good, I don't get caught up in what's "definitive" and what isn't. But it's probably not even worth discussing at this point in time, as no one (not even the Pixies) knows IF the Pixies will even make a new record.

Yeah, you're right. 2007 holds many answers.
quote:
Still looking forward to [i]Christmass[i] here in the Lone Star state. A happy dance will be done when it arrives.

Tell me about it. I moonwalked across the kitchen floor.

Branck, it's a normal CD casing but contained within, how do I put up, a cardboard sleeve thingy. The CD cover artwork is different to the cardboard's art. A great addition to anyone's Frank Black collection.

Edited by - fbc on 12/24/2006 03:50:09
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Adam
= Cult of Ray =

USA
505 Posts

Posted - 12/24/2006 :  06:56:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Both Atlanta Rythm Section and the Classic IV recorded Spooky. You've got the Minus 5 and the Venus 3 doing Young Fresh Fellows, M5, V3, and REM songs. Although an REM song is rare, but REM, M5 and V3 are basically the same band with the addition or subtraction of Stipe.

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6/18/00 Fletcher's Baltimore
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
15320 Posts

Posted - 12/24/2006 :  10:08:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Can someone just tell me what is going on on Radio Lizards? I'm confused. Thanks.


I got some heaven in my head
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Llamadance
> Teenager of the Year <

United Kingdom
2543 Posts

Posted - 12/24/2006 :  11:57:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
here's what Frank said (but I guess it doesn't help much:

quote:
I really enjoyed recording ³Radio Lizards².
Its about the strangest recording I¹ve ever done.--just voices. Lots and
lots of voices.. Singing about the haunting road of the troubadour...
fellow troubadour Mark Mulcahy really helped out on this one. He sings like
a beautiful woman.



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stymie
= Cult of Ray =

385 Posts

Posted - 12/24/2006 :  12:28:01  Show Profile  Visit stymie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Anyone know how long it will take for me to receive my package in the states. I ordered two days ago.
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TRANSMARINE
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
2002 Posts

Posted - 12/24/2006 :  13:24:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by stymie

Anyone know how long it will take for me to receive my package in the states. I ordered two days ago.




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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
15320 Posts

Posted - 12/24/2006 :  13:45:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks, Llamasteve. That clarifies things, somewhat.


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velvety
= Cult of Ray =

Portugal
536 Posts

Posted - 12/24/2006 :  14:03:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yay, Portugal's post office finest are on strike till who knows when. Christmas sucks.
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Llamadance
> Teenager of the Year <

United Kingdom
2543 Posts

Posted - 12/24/2006 :  14:05:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
does it? Good. It makes no sense to me, but I've not heard it yet. Although I will do tomorrow \o/

That quote was from the Pixies myspace page which has a short interview with frank (conducted by Violet) in the blog section. I haven't seen any mention of it before, but that's probably due to my lack of observation rather than anything else.


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Llamadance
> Teenager of the Year <

United Kingdom
2543 Posts

Posted - 12/25/2006 :  10:59:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
She's My Way is so Van Morrison.


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Edited by - Llamadance on 12/25/2006 10:59:58
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