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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
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 Posted - 03/01/2005 : 12:04:25
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Jim (El Barto), our Song DB Master, is looking for assistant editors to help fill the song database with trivia and information for the various songs. You can help just by visiting and mailing additions to Jim, or by signing on to be a Song DB Guru yourself and take charge of a particular album or albums.
We'd like the database to be the definitive place to go to find out all sorts of things you might never have known about songs and albums. Like, for example, that Speedy Marie contains an acrostic. Or Blast Off contains a count down. Or...
You don't have to know everything, just be willing to hunt, acquire info, and post it to Jim.
If you're interested, please sign up here.
Finally, we will be modifying the DB soon to include an easy link to submit content to Jim on each song, so it'll be even easier to send suggestions and content to him.
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frank black conspiracy
~ Abstract Brain ~
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Posted - 03/01/2005 : 12:15:04
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if El Barto's machine gets to overwhelmed with mails, i'm up for helping out
maybe we could have individual posts for songs which gets updated so everyone knows what's already been contributed, and this could be a very bad idea so i'll shut up
(feel free to delete 1st post if too much info overload) |
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11687 Posts |
Posted - 03/01/2005 : 12:27:52
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No no, no ideas are bad. Maybe we should collectively focus on a song every couple days or something. Start with orange album and move forward from there...
 "Join the Cult of Frank / Seriously." |
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starmekitten
-= Forum Pistolera =-
United Kingdom
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Posted - 03/01/2005 : 12:35:34
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Cool...
If it's going to be collective effort cool, if we're taking an album each cool and count tre in either way.
However, if you're going to throw albums out there, I'll hold my hand up here and say don't throw a Catholics album at me because I've been listening to solo Frank for years n years but the catholics... not so long, in fact I have only recently in the last three weeks got all the albums...
(I know I know don't glare or point... I'm a student...)
[edit] although... saying that I'm a quick learner and even quicker when it comes to stuff I like, I changed my mind, Dean you can use and abuse me however you see fit
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11687 Posts |
Posted - 03/01/2005 : 12:39:38
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I've waited so long to hear a girl say that to me... :)
Let's just wait a bit and see who else is interested and how they'd like to do it. Thanks for your quick and enthusiastic responses, though.
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frank black conspiracy
~ Abstract Brain ~
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Posted - 03/01/2005 : 12:39:52
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Originally posted by Cult_Of_Frank
No no, no ideas are bad. Maybe we should collectively focus on a song every couple days or something. Start with orange album and move forward from there...
now that's an idea.
I see why you're the brains behind the operation. and a pilot.
will get working on it. thanks for asking for help with this too, sure some of us would love to ease the work and stress off your shoulders, there's only a few of you and so many of us. |
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
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Posted - 03/01/2005 : 12:40:12
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Put me down for some Catholics love!
I still believe in the excellent joy of the Catholics |
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apl4eris
~ Abstract Brain ~
USA
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Posted - 03/03/2005 : 11:45:48
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I've been wanting to help with this for a LONG time.
Please add me to the helpers list, if any more help is needed, that is. |
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11687 Posts |
Posted - 03/03/2005 : 12:13:05
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I think what we'll do is just work from the back forwards, actually... I tried to implement a system to organize things a little today, but no luck from work, so we'll stick to using individual threads and start from SMYT working forwards since there is the least amount of info on that... I'm actually going to create the thread right now.
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apl4eris
~ Abstract Brain ~
USA
4800 Posts |
Posted - 03/03/2005 : 12:44:59
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Sounds like a great idea to me, Dean.
Someone might need to do some site searching to find some of the songs that have been discussed already. The more info the better, right? I remember there being some great multi-threaded discussions in the past, and some of the older contributors don't come around much anymore. Would be nice to add that earlier info, if it isn't redundant of course. |
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11687 Posts |
Posted - 03/03/2005 : 12:53:43
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Yeah, that's very true. I don't want to burden you with that Jen, but maybe someone not working on artwork is interested in using the not-so-super search engine in the FB chat to find some old song info. Preferably someone who knows how to get it to return results that aren't "timed out". :)
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starmekitten
-= Forum Pistolera =-
United Kingdom
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Posted - 03/03/2005 : 13:32:22
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would love to do that but I still get the time-outs, I've never made that thing work, I'll try from uni tomorrow and let you know if I have any joy, I tried twice today looking for something for Kathryn and ended up just going through the threads to find it.
Does anyone ever make it work?
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11687 Posts |
Posted - 03/03/2005 : 13:33:43
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I used it to dig up some of the stuff I posted. Searching the archives usually works, helps if you have an idea about the subject so it doesn't have to search the entire text...
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apl4eris
~ Abstract Brain ~
USA
4800 Posts |
Posted - 03/03/2005 : 13:40:57
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a good way around the search problem is googling thusly:
site:forum.frankblack.net (and your search terms) |
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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <
Poland
4698 Posts |
Posted - 03/04/2005 : 02:16:46
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tobafett
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1713 Posts |
Posted - 03/04/2005 : 09:48:58
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11687 Posts |
Posted - 03/04/2005 : 11:19:15
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Please! Really, the more the merrier.
I'd like to have someone digging through old posts here, someone looking elsewhere for possibly new material, and someone (hopefully El Barto) starting threads for songs the way I've done for Nadine - preferably the same format.
If you guys have a preference as to which one of these people you'd like to be, let me know. Once we get going, I'll give you all cool titles. :)
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tobafett
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
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Posted - 03/04/2005 : 17:23:12
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GypsyDeath
Zapped Profile
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Posted - 03/05/2005 : 14:45:12
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Sign me up. I spend hours searching for stuff on the internet anyways, and i'd much rather do it for something i like!!!
Id like to second the question of groovy titles??? we dont all get the same one do we?
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GypsyDeath
Zapped Profile
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Posted - 03/05/2005 : 14:51:57
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Is jim gonna go through all of the information mailed to him by himself?!?! That may be incredibly time consuming especially as he will also be putting it on to the actual site.
Im happy to be asst. gathered information editor if needed? As long as i can just send the edited stuff to jim...It would mean Jim could concentrate more on getting it to the actual DB?
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Edited by - GypsyDeath on 03/05/2005 14:55:06 |
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starmekitten
-= Forum Pistolera =-
United Kingdom
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GypsyDeath
Zapped Profile
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Posted - 03/05/2005 : 15:00:51
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Yep, well aware of that thread...was just saying that if Jim needed a hand editing that all together etc, Im happy to be of help...
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11687 Posts |
Posted - 03/05/2005 : 16:11:01
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That's up to Jim, m'lady, I suggest you send him an email if you're interested, though. I'm sure someone grabbing all the relevant data from the threads and passing it along would be a help to him so long as you're careful about getting everything.
Send him an email and see if he'd like to do it that way.
Tobafett and Tre are my two volunteers so far (aside from Mel, obviously). I don't care who takes which task, so if either of you has a preference, by all means say so. I'd like to hand the task of creating the threads and keeping the ball rolling off (threads created for a new song every few days so as not to divide attention and give the current song the required attention).
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starmekitten
-= Forum Pistolera =-
United Kingdom
6370 Posts |
Posted - 03/05/2005 : 16:25:46
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Mondo, no preference to thread/web search but I'm still thread searching via google, I only made the forum search work once (it was quite exciting until I realised I'd discovered pretty much nothing doing so, then I made a sad face)
I don't mind starting new threads either if no one else wants to, you want one every four days or so?
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11687 Posts |
Posted - 03/05/2005 : 19:34:11
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It'll depend on how busy a thread is. Like if it looks like there's nothing more to be said about Nadine, then start a new one I guess. I'd keep the instructions post I used at the beginning of Nadine at the top of all of them so that people know what to look for without having to go back to Nadine to see what the thread's about, and I'd keep the format of posting what we already have. But generally, yeah, every three or four.
I'll worry about the titlature once things seem to be moving along at a steady pace.
Thanks to everyone who's helped either by posting or just looking (even if they didn't find anything). The fact that this is collaborative should mean that we get all sorts of stuff that a lone gun might miss.
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starmekitten
-= Forum Pistolera =-
United Kingdom
6370 Posts |
Posted - 03/06/2005 : 05:32:13
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you're the boss, boss!
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
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Posted - 03/06/2005 : 06:11:28
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How would you know if the info you are getting is true? We need Franky here to verify. Perhaps Dean, if you could arrange for him to come round to our houses to verify ; )
I was gonna offer to help, but I see you don't want it for Pixies songs, and I know more about them than Frank's other stuff. Most people here probably know more about his other stuff than I do, I'd only get it wrong. |
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11687 Posts |
Posted - 03/06/2005 : 09:11:53
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We want a source with each quote/etc, I guess. It'd be great to have Frank come by and say, "This song was about this and is related to that" for a bunch of tracks, but it's not likely to happen I'm afraid.
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tobafett
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
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Posted - 03/07/2005 : 23:06:04
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Originally posted by Cult_Of_Frank
Tobafett and Tre are my two volunteers so far (aside from Mel, obviously). I don't care who takes which task, so if either of you has a preference, by all means say so. I'd like to hand the task of creating the threads and keeping the ball rolling off (threads created for a new song every few days so as not to divide attention and give the current song the required attention).
I'm easy, really--Tre, whaddya wannado? I'll try to check back in a few days but my computer's dying (sending it in for repair tomorrow) and I'll be knocked offline. but just post it here and i'll find it!
thanks! l'm looking forward to working on this! |
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shineoftheever
> Teenager of the Year <
Canada
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Posted - 03/08/2005 : 01:22:54
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the only song i can really tell you about is bullett and i can only tell from what i remember frank saying at the johnny foley's show - San fran 2000. i don't if everything he said was true but it made for a neat story and song.
You can go eat a decroded piece of crap! |
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starmekitten
-= Forum Pistolera =-
United Kingdom
6370 Posts |
Posted - 03/08/2005 : 16:42:30
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Originally posted by tobafett
I'm easy, really--Tre
I've been waiting so long to hear a boy say that
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do you want to take forum searching because I can't make the search work and I'll do t'internet searching? that sound good to you?
 cats have nine lives/ which makes them ideal for experimentation |
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tobafett
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
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Posted - 03/08/2005 : 20:39:14
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YEP!
and i wasn't kiddin'....i am easy 
now let's talk groovy titles... |
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11687 Posts |
Posted - 03/09/2005 : 00:04:29
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If you've got ideas and they're relevant to the whole song db researcher thing, let's hear 'em.
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11687 Posts |
Posted - 03/10/2005 : 15:38:21
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I think you're doing great, but it'd be nice to see more people give some input. Incidentally, email me your desired title if you'd like, and we can talk about it.
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starmekitten
-= Forum Pistolera =-
United Kingdom
6370 Posts |
Posted - 03/10/2005 : 15:44:22
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oops sorry did a deletion there! sorry!
[edit] i removed a post not realising mr cult had eplied already, just so he doesn't seem nuts i said something about whether the threads were working and if I was yap yap yapping too much in them...
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Edited by - starmekitten on 03/10/2005 16:12:46 |
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
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Posted - 03/11/2005 : 01:18:02
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Well you're doing a great job Tre, everytime I step on one of your songdb threads you've already said all there is to say about the songs.
I was wondering, shouldn't we first try to finish the discography before we add all the trivia about the songs? I'm not saying it's uninteresting, I love reading all these thoughts and quotes, but doing this will take us months and meanwhile we still haven't got a proper discography. I'd like to see all the EPs, compilations and tribute albums where Frank appears, and I'd like to have the cat. numbers of all the different editions of the albums. I'm just saying, I don't have much time to help so feel free to ignore my post.
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