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starmekitten
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United Kingdom
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 Posted - 09/11/2005 : 04:40:02
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madagascar was just a mildy humorous animated film with cute animals.
hitchikers guide to the galaxy sucked.
yesterday I watched million dollar baby and I didn't like it.
Is crash really any good? I have a dvd of it here and wasn't sure I wanted to watch it. |
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
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Posted - 09/11/2005 : 06:07:09
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Crash caught me by surprise. It's a bit cliched but, yeah, I'd say you should watch it, kitty.
And I don't mean just for the Matt Dillon visuals.
Sometimes, no matter how shitty things get, you have to just do a little dance. - Frank
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fumanbru
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 09/11/2005 : 06:38:11
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Originally posted by kathryn
Speaking of Brendan Fraser, last night I watched and enjoyed "Crash."
Don Cheadle, good actor. Discuss.
It's so embarrassing to find Matt Dillon sexy. God, it's such a source of shame!
Sometimes, no matter how shitty things get, you have to just do a little dance. - Frank
we were gonna get that last night. got million dollar babies instead. but didn't watch it yet- gross point blank was on tv so watched that.
don cheadle is great. thought he was really good in united states of leland. franks "manitoba" was in that flick. my wife says i can tie in any conversation back to frank.
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fumanbru
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 09/11/2005 : 06:39:53
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also forgot to add that "monkey gone to heaven" was in gross point blank. first time i saw it. really enjoyed it. has always been on my movie list.
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
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Posted - 09/11/2005 : 08:12:29
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Originally posted by fumanbru
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Originally posted by kathryn
Speaking of Brendan Fraser, last night I watched and enjoyed "Crash."
Don Cheadle, good actor. Discuss.
It's so embarrassing to find Matt Dillon sexy. God, it's such a source of shame!
Sometimes, no matter how shitty things get, you have to just do a little dance. - Frank
we were gonna get that last night. got million dollar babies instead. but didn't watch it yet- gross point blank was on tv so watched that.
don cheadle is great. thought he was really good in united states of leland. franks "manitoba" was in that flick. my wife says i can tie in any conversation back to frank.
"I joined the Cult of Frank/ cause I'm a real go-getter!"
Mrs. Fu and Mr. Kathryn should start a support club. Not that he complains when I, too, lead any and every topic back to Frank.
Sometimes, no matter how shitty things get, you have to just do a little dance. - Frank
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Surfer Rosa
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Posted - 09/11/2005 : 08:45:29
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I just watched Stander. Really enjoyed even though it also made me slightly homesick.
Fire made it good. |
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
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Posted - 09/11/2005 : 09:34:48
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I've never really wanted to see "Madagascar," mostly because I don't care for the drawing/animation style. "Million Dollar Baby" is another movie that doesn't interest me, and that's probably mostly because the first time I heard of it was when I saw a god-awful preview for it. That doesn't necessarily mean the movie is bad, I guess, but I still have no desire to see it.
I was all out of luck, like a duck that died. I was all out of juice, like a moose denied. |
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HeywoodJablome
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
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Posted - 09/11/2005 : 09:53:44
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Originally posted by kathryn
Speaking of Brendan Fraser, last night I watched and enjoyed "Crash."
Don Cheadle, good actor. Discuss.
It's so embarrassing to find Matt Dillon sexy. God, it's such a source of shame!
Sometimes, no matter how shitty things get, you have to just do a little dance. - Frank
I didn't care for it, seemed a bit contrived.
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
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Posted - 09/11/2005 : 10:05:41
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Originally posted by VoVat
"Million Dollar Baby" is another movie that doesn't interest me, and that's probably mostly because the first time I heard of it was when I saw a god-awful preview for it. That doesn't necessarily mean the movie is bad, I guess, but I still have no desire to see it.
I was all out of luck, like a duck that died. I was all out of juice, like a moose denied.
I didn't fancy it that much either but It hought I'd give it a go, to see what all the fuss was about. I really enjoyed for the most part.
 I'd walk her everyday, into a shady place
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
15320 Posts |
Posted - 09/11/2005 : 10:58:09
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Originally posted by HeywoodJablome
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Originally posted by kathryn
Speaking of Brendan Fraser, last night I watched and enjoyed "Crash."
Don Cheadle, good actor. Discuss.
It's so embarrassing to find Matt Dillon sexy. God, it's such a source of shame!
I didn't care for it, seemed a bit contrived.
The more I think about it today, the more it seems like an ER episode, you know, with eventually inter-connecting plot lines.
Sometimes, no matter how shitty things get, you have to just do a little dance. - Frank
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Broken Face
-= Forum Pistolero =-
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Posted - 09/11/2005 : 11:06:31
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i, once again for the record, hated MILLION DOLLAR BABY.
just watched HEAVENLY CREATURES - Peter Jackson impresses me more with his small pictures than his epics. really enjoyable.
-Brian
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starmekitten
-= Forum Pistolera =-
United Kingdom
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Posted - 09/11/2005 : 11:39:41
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
17125 Posts |
Posted - 09/11/2005 : 11:49:03
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Originally posted by Broken Face
i, once again for the record, hated MILLION DOLLAR BABY.
-Brian
Well I never ; )
I'd walk her everyday, into a shady place
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
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Posted - 09/11/2005 : 12:46:19
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Million Dollar Baby was so bad, I wanted Clint to give me a shot, too.
Sometimes, no matter how shitty things get, you have to just do a little dance. - Frank
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
17125 Posts |
Posted - 09/11/2005 : 12:53:03
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It must piss you all off that it won those Oscars then.
I have The Aviator to watch also. Another one that I don't really fancy that much, but maybe I will be pleasantly surprised with that too.
I'd walk her everyday, into a shady place
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
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Posted - 09/11/2005 : 12:57:06
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Ain't no pleasant surprises with Leo DiCaprio, Homers.
Sometimes, no matter how shitty things get, you have to just do a little dance. - Frank
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
17125 Posts |
Posted - 09/11/2005 : 13:05:21
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Yeah but you hated Million Dollar Baby and I liked it, so you never know.
I'd walk her everyday, into a shady place
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starmekitten
-= Forum Pistolera =-
United Kingdom
6370 Posts |
Posted - 09/11/2005 : 13:30:08
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
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Posted - 09/11/2005 : 13:33:41
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Speaking of taste, Kitty, did you watch Crash and do you now also harbor shameful sexual feelings about Matt Dillon?
Sometimes, no matter how shitty things get, you have to just do a little dance. - Frank
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
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Posted - 09/11/2005 : 13:34:23
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It must piss you all off that it won those Oscars then.
Is anyone REALLY concerned with what a bunch of movie-industry geezers think of various films?
I was all out of luck, like a duck that died. I was all out of juice, like a moose denied. |
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
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Posted - 09/11/2005 : 14:06:21
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i take the Oscars with a grain of salt, but still always find myself getting sucked into watching them and rooting for films i think are the best. the Oscars are pretty predictable. MILLION DOLLAR BABY is exactly the kind of movie old Hollywood likes (most of the voters).. i actually thought it was a good fim (as discussed before) but not sure i would have given it best picture.
despite being kind of arbitrary and subjective, i don't think the Oscars should be discounted completely. it's insustry professionals voting on what they think of their peers (ie. people who actually make films and not just critics, who don't do anything)... i don't always think they get it wrong.. especially with the more specific cagegories like cinematography, screenwriting etc.. those are all subjective too, but "best picture" is probably the most vague |
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
17125 Posts |
Posted - 09/11/2005 : 14:40:29
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Originally posted by starmekitten
It's a good point K, Mikey has little to no taste in these matters.
Even when I post lyrics for you, you are still nasty to me.
I'd walk her everyday, into a shady place
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Broken Face
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USA
5155 Posts |
Posted - 09/11/2005 : 15:25:17
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interesting post tony, but don't you feel that sometimes critics/audiences have a better grasp on how good a film is, as opposed to peers? this is an interesting discussion i've had with musician friends of me - are 'musician's musicians' really talented and just not appreciated by the general public, or is it that its just masturbatory stuff that only musicians like? i feel that sometimes, a film that is the gem of the film world is really not that great of a film, but just resonates with people who happen to do that same exact thing. i don't have an answer to this query by the way, its just an observation, b/c lord knows i like a lot of 'musician's musicians.'
-Brian
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
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Posted - 09/11/2005 : 15:45:05
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that is an interesting question b. critiquing is always subjective, and always be influenced by personal taste. and there are so many angles to approach it from. i was semi kidding about critics. i mean, they do do stuff. like critique. but i think there is something to be said for getting the percpective from someone who actually practices the craft. someone who works as a cinematographer could tell you something about a film, and how amazing something might have been that they achieved, that someone (even a critic) might not be aware of. but then often times working professionals can have bad taste too; just because you're a musician or whatever doesn't mean you have good taste in music.
it is a good question though. i think it comes down to getting all perspectives you can and then deciding for yourself. you're never wrong about your own opinion (with the exception your opinion about MILLION DOLLAR BABY) |
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
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Posted - 09/11/2005 : 15:46:20
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are 'musician's musicians' really talented and just not appreciated by the general public, or is it that its just masturbatory stuff that only musicians like?
It really varies. I've noticed that a lot of musicians who do avant-garde stuff are more appreciated by other musicians than by the general public. I mean, take Captain Beefheart or the Residents. All the musicians I like seem to love them, but they're not that popular with most of the popluation. On the other hand, some more traditional musicians (like, say, our own Frank) can also be musicians' musicians to a degree. I think there are several factors at work here. One is that musicians are more likely to know more music than most people are, so they're probably going to know about some hidden treasures that the people who rely on Clear Channel and MTV to find out about music aren't going to know. I also think that the fact musicians hear so much music means they're often likely to grow tired of the same old stuff, and are therefore more likely to become interested in something simply because it's different. I could be totally wrong here, especially considering that I don't know any professional musicians personally, but it seems to make sense. Maybe it works in a similar way with movies.
I was all out of luck, like a duck that died. I was all out of juice, like a moose denied. |
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Broken Face
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USA
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Posted - 09/11/2005 : 15:56:25
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i think the real question is who is the intended target. i don't think don van vliet (beefheart) only wanted musicians to dig his stuff. ditto for a guy like david lynch, who is certainly not appreciated by non-filmmakers as he is my filmmakers. but there are guys (like shred-metal guitarists such as steve vai and yngwie malmsteen) that i feel like their whole goal musically is like "woah! a twentyfourth note arpegiated myxolodian run with a blues note! that'll really kill the guys at guitar center!" and i think that a lot of times musicians mistake that (which is ego) for someone who is really trying to push the boundaries. and i could see the same being said for filmmakers who do odd-camera work ad nasueum.
-Brian
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whoreatthedoor
> Teenager of the Year <
Spain
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Posted - 09/12/2005 : 00:13:07
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"The tramp and the dictator", documentary about Hitler and Chaplin.
It's curious how almost every politician admired Hitler back in the day.
Oh! Bradbury appears in the movie. I have never seen him before.
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Scarla O
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
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Posted - 09/12/2005 : 02:20:32
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I just watched 'The Last Days'.
As a fan of 'Elephant' I put my initial misgivings about this film behind me and sat down in my red velvet seat willing to give Gus and 'Blake' the benefit of the doubt.
Boy am I a sucker - this is the most cowardly film I have seen in a long time.
Gus tells us at the end of the film that our dead 'never to mumble again' rockstar 'Blake' is a "fictional character inspired by Kurt Cobain". Well if this isn't Cobain then the 'Elephant'-style 'non-judgemental' narrative leaves the viewer with so little empathy for the main character that no-one really gives a shit when he dies.
So what's really going on Gus?
Well I think that Gus is keenly aware that this film can only work when it's about Kurt Cobain but of course asides from Cobain and His Bearded Omniscient Highness no-one really knows what occurred during those last 24 hours or so. So Gus decides he's gonna fill in the gaps.
Now either i'm suffering from tinnitus or there are alarm-bells ringing in my ears right now.
The point ultimately however is that as a work of fiction this isn't a great reconstruction of the man's final days. I think this film is best avoided.
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
Ireland
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Posted - 09/12/2005 : 04:32:51
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Originally posted by whoreatthedoor
"The tramp and the dictator", documentary about Hitler and Chaplin.
It's curious how almost every politician admired Hitler back in the day.
Oh! Bradbury appears in the movie. I have never seen him before.
El amor es la distancia más larga entre un punto y otro
 You mean he's in The Great Dictator? Or just the doc?
Scarlo O-
Last Days does look a bit dodgy. It has got some good reviews, but some folks think it's just twaddle. I would like to see it, though. Maybe Van Sant was'nt legally able to make it literally Cobain in the script. I do know that Courtney Love is approving of him making it, though. |
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whoreatthedoor
> Teenager of the Year <
Spain
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Posted - 09/12/2005 : 04:50:41
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On the doc, Carl. On the doc. But he's old enough to have appeared on it 
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
Ireland
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Posted - 09/12/2005 : 04:51:56
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| Yeah, I was wondering! It's just that you said he appears in the movie! That's where I got confused. :) |
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HeywoodJablome
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
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Posted - 09/12/2005 : 05:06:27
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whoreatthedoor
> Teenager of the Year <
Spain
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Posted - 09/12/2005 : 05:15:42
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You're right, Carl. It's confusing.
You know, we speak in spanish down here.
El amor es la distancia más larga entre un punto y otro |
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starmekitten
-= Forum Pistolera =-
United Kingdom
6370 Posts |
Posted - 09/12/2005 : 05:23:21
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I watched Crash yesterday and didn't think a whole lot of it. I don't know why, I think sometimes films that are literally forcing issues down your throat (like racism) don't do anyone any favours. I think if people are led into realisations it can have a lot more impact than 'oh my, lets look at this racist fuck and his stereotyped attitudes'. It was like an episode of ER, you're right, little stories all tying together oh so neatly. So many little "happy endings" with the one obligatory sad one. I guess it was just a bit typical. I didn't want to watch it because the trailer I saw for it was very boring and it looked like a dopey film, that was a little misleading but I still didn't think it was very good.
Sandra Bullock I wanted to slap though, even cheered when she fell down the stairs. |
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
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Posted - 09/12/2005 : 05:53:55
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Million $ Baby: quite good
Aviator: very good
Last night I watched The Punisher. Without any doubt the worst comics adaptation ever. Made Daredevil look like Citizen Kane in comparison. The DVD was lent to us by one of my wife's coworker who has the absolute worst taste ever in movies and insists in bringing her DVDs all the time. He lent us:
- The Punisher
- Original Sin, a horrible mess of a movie starring Antonio Banderas and Angelina Jolie. Oh well, at least she showed her tits in it.
- Van Helsing. We couldn't watch past the first half hour.
- Los Sin Nombre a.k.a. The Nameless: a Spanish horror movie and the worst excuse of a movie ever. It has to be seen to be believed. So bad it looked like Scary Movie 4, only withouth Charlie Sheen.
Everytime my wife brings back a new DVD I'm more and more appalled by this guy's taste.
Denis
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