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floop
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Mexico
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Posted - 06/06/2005 :  19:37:34  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Broken Face

agreed! how do you feel it was misunderstood?

-Brian

If you move I shoots!




the whole last part of the film is a complete parody of itself, and of Hollywood storytelling in general.. but i think people mistake it for having "a bad ending" when in fact, it is a parody of bad endings.. and of itself .

Edited by - floop on 06/06/2005 19:39:40
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Surfer Rosa
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Posted - 06/07/2005 :  04:19:42  Show Profile  Visit Surfer Rosa's Homepage
Floop have you seen Lords of Dogtown yet?
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Broken Face
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USA
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Posted - 06/07/2005 :  04:58:40  Show Profile  Visit Broken Face's Homepage
i agree tony - as soon as Charlie asks Donald for help with the script, it becomes ridiculous - it becomes a Donald (ie. McKee, ie. typical, poor) script

-Brian

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Homers_pet_monkey
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 06/07/2005 :  06:48:25  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Broken Face

quote:
Originally posted by Homers_pet_monkey

This is probably a stupid question but what was the significance of Donald's death?


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because he doesn't really exist, and since the film is supposed to be 'true' he couldn't be walking around after it

-Brian

If you move I shoots!





Well yeah I knew he wasn't real but I still don't see why he had to kill him. If Donald is just his other side then why couldn't it go on? We already knew he was not real so it wasn't like we would have been confused at the end if he had lived on.


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Homers_pet_monkey
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 06/07/2005 :  06:49:21  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by floop

quote:
Originally posted by Broken Face

agreed! how do you feel it was misunderstood?

-Brian

If you move I shoots!




the whole last part of the film is a complete parody of itself, and of Hollywood storytelling in general.. but i think people mistake it for having "a bad ending" when in fact, it is a parody of bad endings.. and of itself .




Maybe that answers my question.


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Broken Face
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USA
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Posted - 06/07/2005 :  06:59:57  Show Profile  Visit Broken Face's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by Homers_pet_monkey

quote:
Originally posted by Broken Face

quote:
Originally posted by Homers_pet_monkey

This is probably a stupid question but what was the significance of Donald's death?


I guess floop WAS right!




because he doesn't really exist, and since the film is supposed to be 'true' he couldn't be walking around after it

-Brian

If you move I shoots!





Well yeah I knew he wasn't real but I still don't see why he had to kill him. If Donald is just his other side then why couldn't it go on? We already knew he was not real so it wasn't like we would have been confused at the end if he had lived on.


I guess floop WAS right!




well, the screenplay is credited to Charlie and Donald Kaufman, and outside of those really in the know, it could be totally conceivable (at the time of the film's release) that there was a Donald Kaufman. plus, it makes a film about trying to write a film about flowers end even more ridiculously, when 2 of the main characters (donald and laroche) are killed, it becomes a drug film, 'happy together' is used, the characters all learn new things about themselves, charlie and amelia profess their love for each other, etc.

-Brian

If you move I shoots!

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Homers_pet_monkey
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 06/07/2005 :  07:10:28  Show Profile
I can't believe they nominated Donald for an Oscar.

To be fair I didn't know until recently that he even had a ficticious brother.


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starmekitten
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Posted - 06/09/2005 :  09:00:16  Show Profile  Visit starmekitten's Homepage
I just watched the woodsman
that was weird, and not entirely comfortable

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offerw
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South Africa
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Posted - 06/09/2005 :  09:55:14  Show Profile  Click to see offerw's MSN Messenger address
quote:
Originally posted by darwin

quote:
Originally posted by floop

quote:
Originally posted by offerw

Koyanisqaatsi

Not quite the cinematic masterpiece I was told to expect.

wilhelm



i, too, was disappointed by it



I watched it for a writing class in college and thought it was overly manipulative. Play some video in slow motion and put serene music behind it and it's a beautiful ballet and good. Speed it up and make the music more unsettling and it's chaos and bad. Blah.



Spot on Darwin. It was what the film fest pamphlet, luring me to see the film, should have said.

wilhelm
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floop
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Mexico
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Posted - 06/09/2005 :  18:22:25  Show Profile
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Originally posted by Surfer Rosa

Floop have you seen Lords of Dogtown yet?



i haven't but i want to
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Surfer Rosa
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Posted - 06/10/2005 :  00:25:13  Show Profile  Visit Surfer Rosa's Homepage
Found out I have till September to wait for it - friend has already been to the press screening - loved it (and packed full of eyecandy.)
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
11546 Posts

Posted - 06/10/2005 :  21:37:16  Show Profile
Saw Mystic River the other day. It was good, some may find the ending a little quetionable, but I think there was a point being made. :)
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floop
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Mexico
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Posted - 06/11/2005 :  02:23:16  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Surfer Rosa

Found out I have till September to wait for it - friend has already been to the press screening - loved it (and packed full of eyecandy.)



i haven't seen anything she's directed but i hear THIRTEEN was supposed to be okay.. i don't understand why Stacy Peralta didn't just direct it, but hey..

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Surfer Rosa
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Posted - 06/11/2005 :  07:26:55  Show Profile  Visit Surfer Rosa's Homepage
Thirteen was mediocre - I'm still a bit confused as to what the fuss was all about with that one. Have to admit I'm slightly pissed off to hear that Catherine Hardwicke has directed it instead of Stacy Peralta.
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floop
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Mexico
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Posted - 06/11/2005 :  11:00:56  Show Profile
yeah, i don't understand the choice of her for directing.. but, i'm trying to be open-minded. i noticed Mark Mothersbaugh did the music, and David fincher is one of the executive producers. some interesting talent involved..
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Little Black Francis
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Posted - 06/11/2005 :  13:14:39  Show Profile
Amry of Darkness (it was on sci fi)

Bruce Campbell is the shizzle


... It was like the First time I ever tried Cheetos.
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
15320 Posts

Posted - 06/11/2005 :  19:27:07  Show Profile
"Testamento," based on a novel by Germano Almeida and set in
Cape Verde. Beautiful West African visuals, pretty Cabo Verdean
dialect. Two thumbs up.

Also, WHERE IS RITA?


I still believe in the excellent joy of the Catholics
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Broken Face
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Posted - 06/12/2005 :  06:58:43  Show Profile  Visit Broken Face's Homepage
KINSEY - nothing wrong with the film - good performances, good script, etc. However, i'm a little sick of this Hollywood trend of taking a true story and presenting it without any style. AMERICAN SPLENDOR is an example of the opposite - a biopic that drips with energy, fresh ideas and a true love of the subject matter. KINSEY was just a cast of good actors, giving good (not great) performances, and some flacid Peter Sarsgaard penis. Nothing too special.

-Brian

If you move I shoots!

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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
11546 Posts

Posted - 06/12/2005 :  09:17:38  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Little Black Francis

Amry of Darkness (it was on sci fi)

Bruce Campbell is the shizzle


"Gimme some sugar, baby!!

I've been getting those Army Of Darkness comics. There's also Evil Dead VS Reanimator, and Texas Chainsaw Massacre! Your not a cult movie 'til you've been rendered in comic form!!
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Superabounder
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1041 Posts

Posted - 06/12/2005 :  21:33:16  Show Profile
Just watched Crash. I had heard a bad review so i resisted seeing it, but i actually liked it. It does oversimplify things into a supersaturated message, but it was engrossing and I almost...ahem...<cried> once. I always like Don Cheadle. Star studded cast, actually.


All of the true things I am about to tell you are shameless lies
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Homers_pet_monkey
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 06/13/2005 :  12:07:01  Show Profile
I saw Sin City. Excellent stuff. that scene with the arrow going straight through that bad guy was pretty damn funny too. Elijah Wood had a good character I thought (if not the best lines).

Who was that guy in the opening and closing scenes? What was his purpose in the film?


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speedy_m
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Canada
3581 Posts

Posted - 06/13/2005 :  12:09:15  Show Profile
Josh Hartnett cannot act at all.


I am God's brother, his soul mate and team mate/He passes me info-mation/and I reciprocate
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starmekitten
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Posted - 06/13/2005 :  12:10:35  Show Profile  Visit starmekitten's Homepage
He was just a tie in mikey, an assasin, killed the first girl then at the end you know whasserface is going to get it because he's there
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Homers_pet_monkey
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 06/13/2005 :  12:16:10  Show Profile
Is that it? That's all I got but I assumed there was more to it. Not the greatest ending ever.

Thanks anyway.


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kathryn
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Belgium
15320 Posts

Posted - 06/13/2005 :  12:18:16  Show Profile
Josh Harnett was in that movie? I only noticed Jessica Alba.


I still believe in the excellent joy of the Catholics
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
11546 Posts

Posted - 06/14/2005 :  10:18:14  Show Profile
I saw it yesterday. I've never read the graphic novels, but I thought it was probably the best realisation of a comic book style in the movies ever. A little silly and plotless, but thorougly enjoyable and very funny in places. I found some of the nastier subject matter to be a bit lame, in a way. Molesting and murdering little girls is not a great subject for pure, fictional entertainment.

Watched Mean Streets and Goodfellas over the weekend. Mean Streets look great on DVD. I'd like to listen to the Henry Hill/FBI guy commentary on Goodfellas, sounds interesting.
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Broken Face
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Posted - 06/14/2005 :  10:27:15  Show Profile  Visit Broken Face's Homepage
NOSFERATU - the original silent German film - i forgot just how creepy it is

-Brian

If you move I shoots!

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BLT
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South Sandwich Islands
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Posted - 06/14/2005 :  22:57:22  Show Profile
Lords of Dogtown

Loved it.
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Surfer Rosa
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Posted - 06/15/2005 :  05:19:16  Show Profile  Visit Surfer Rosa's Homepage
OOOH OOOH tell me more please BLT!
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floop
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Mexico
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Posted - 06/15/2005 :  07:57:44  Show Profile
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Originally posted by BLT

Lords of Dogtown

Loved it.



that's good to hear. i've had this secret fear that it's going to suck..
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BLT
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South Sandwich Islands
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Posted - 06/15/2005 :  08:13:19  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by floop

that's good to hear. i've had this secret fear that it's going to suck..



The movie played out pretty much as I always imagined the Z-Boys, so it was like my daydreams being brought to the silver screen. Back around '79, I briefly knew a dude who skated with them and the movie backed up his stories.

I'm sure you'll recognize many streets in your neighborhood, floop.
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Homers_pet_monkey
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 06/15/2005 :  14:18:39  Show Profile
I just watched Closer. Not bad, not great. Jude Law was as wooden as ever and Natalie Portman was as beautiful as ever.


Don't believe the type!
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floop
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Mexico
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Posted - 06/15/2005 :  14:20:31  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by BLT

The movie played out pretty much as I always imagined the Z-Boys, so it was like my daydreams being brought to the silver screen. Back around '79, I briefly knew a dude who skated with them and the movie backed up his stories.

I'm sure you'll recognize many streets in your neighborhood, floop.



word. yeah, i heard she lives down the street actually.. the director that is.
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tobafett
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USA
1713 Posts

Posted - 06/15/2005 :  20:07:57  Show Profile
pixies on Austin City Limits dvd...
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offerw
* Dog in the Sand *

South Africa
1264 Posts

Posted - 06/16/2005 :  11:56:38  Show Profile  Click to see offerw's MSN Messenger address
quote:
Originally posted by Frog in the Sand

Comme une image (Look At Me). Dir. Agnès Jaoui, 2004. 'A tale of four people who know exactly what they'd do if they were somebody else, but can't handle being themselves very well'. Great film in all possible respects. Actually the best French movie I've seen for a long time.




When will Frank find Lyle, Nick and Eric Drew again?


Saw this today. I agree, it is an excellent film. Good thing you posted about this Frog, I would've missed out on it otherwise.
wilhelm

Edited by - offerw on 06/16/2005 11:59:37
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