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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
11546 Posts

Posted - 01/29/2004 :  10:29:32  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by IceCream

I really like Beck, actually; listen to "Bottle of Blues", "Cyanide Breath Mint", "Lazy Flies", "Feather in Your Cap", or "Rowboat", and it's amazing what songs have come out of this one man's mind.


Yeah, hav'nt heard Sea Change, but Mutations could be my fave Beck album.
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El Barto
= Song DB Master =

USA
4020 Posts

Posted - 01/29/2004 :  15:02:20  Show Profile  Visit El Barto's Homepage
Oh, if you need proof that Syd Barrett is one of the greatest song writers, please refer to Effervesing Elephant. He wrote that poem when he was *15*.


"Join the Cult of Brit / And let your oral hygiene go out the window."
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IceCream
= Quote Accumulator =

USA
1850 Posts

Posted - 01/29/2004 :  20:58:29  Show Profile  Visit IceCream's Homepage
How about "Octopus", "Terrapin", "Long Gone", "Baby Lemonade", "Waving my Arms in the Air", or "Wined and Dined"?

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El Barto
= Song DB Master =

USA
4020 Posts

Posted - 01/30/2004 :  06:10:36  Show Profile  Visit El Barto's Homepage
Oh, definitely. This one just struck me after listening to it again how brilliant it is...and the fact that he wrote it at the age of 15 makes it even more impressive.


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Stuart
- The Clopser -

China
2291 Posts

Posted - 01/30/2004 :  23:43:48  Show Profile  Visit Stuart's Homepage
I'm surprised that no-one has mentionned Robert Smith of The Cure. Personally I think that the consistent quality Smith churned out from 1976 - 1992 puts him up there as one of the best songwriters of all time. If you look at all the Cure albums, they are mostly very very good. Even the more recent albums WMS and Bloodflowers have moments of songwriting genius, despite the fact they are not as strong as the previous albums. But then again look at people like Bowie and Young, hugely influential songwriters who have written both masterpieces and complete piles of shite.

So my view is that the best song writers are:

Robert Smith
David Bowie
Neil Young
Mark Knofler
Jim Morrison
Zach De La Rocha

Obviously I'd put Frank up there as well, but that goes without saying.





Who's the man that won't cop out when there's danger all about?
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cindy lou
- FB Fan -

141 Posts

Posted - 01/31/2004 :  00:31:42  Show Profile
bob dylan. um what else can you say. ask "the right people" and they will tell you the same thing!
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Iceland
8201 Posts

Posted - 01/31/2004 :  04:39:30  Show Profile  Visit Cheeseman1000's Homepage
Mark Knopfler? Good grief. Greatest headband-wearing Geordie maybe...


"I joined the Cult Of Cheese/E-Damn!"
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Stuart
- The Clopser -

China
2291 Posts

Posted - 02/01/2004 :  01:20:59  Show Profile  Visit Stuart's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by Cheeseman1000

Mark Knopfler? Good grief. Greatest headband-wearing Geordie maybe...


"I joined the Cult Of Cheese/E-Damn!"



Cheeseman, you cannot deny that Knofler wrote some all time classics with The Straits.... and his headband possessed mystical powers which enabled him to pen such classics as Tunnel of Love / Telegraph Road / Brothers In Arms etc etc...

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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
9168 Posts

Posted - 02/01/2004 :  11:14:59  Show Profile  Visit VoVat's Homepage  Click to see VoVat's MSN Messenger address
I'm not sure about BEST, but Andy Partridge of XTC might be my personal favorite.

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Adnan_le_Terrible
* Dog in the Sand *

France
1973 Posts

Posted - 02/01/2004 :  11:30:12  Show Profile  Visit Adnan_le_Terrible's Homepage
Zack de la Rocha? Songwriter? Come on!



I joined the three kitties club / And now I can participate to a secret forum with Charles.
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marcusb
= Cult of Ray =

USA
308 Posts

Posted - 02/01/2004 :  13:21:27  Show Profile
Mark Mulcahy
Tom Waits
and of course.. Frank

I once killed a boy with a Fender guitar
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Stuart
- The Clopser -

China
2291 Posts

Posted - 02/01/2004 :  17:51:45  Show Profile  Visit Stuart's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by Adnan_le_Terrible

Zack de la Rocha? Songwriter? Come on!



I joined the three kitties club / And now I can participate to a secret forum with Charles.



Zach De La Rocha penned the lyrics to the Rage songs.... that would make him a songwriter, or are we talking from a musical sense? The first Rage album is a ground breaking album, and De La Rocha deserves a great deal of credit for this album alone. Maybe he hasn't done enough to warrant 'greatest songwriter' but he is a trully great lyricist and performer.

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interloper
= Cult of Ray =

440 Posts

Posted - 02/01/2004 :  17:55:06  Show Profile
Rage against the machine my ass. They were on the machine's payroll. If Sony isn't the machine, I don't know what is.

Hand held shower nozzles are the demon enemy of the patriarch and should be destroyed.
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two reelers
* Dog in the Sand *

Austria
1074 Posts

Posted - 02/02/2004 :  00:47:45  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by IceCream

How about "Octopus", "Terrapin", "Long Gone", "Baby Lemonade", "Waving my Arms in the Air", or "Wined and Dined"?

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Tim, the only one who laughs



and don't forget "dominoes"

greatest songwriters, hmhmh...

imo:

frank - of course

bob dylan - he doesn't have the best music, and he doesn't have the best lyrics - but the mixture of both (and his voice) is unreached with him. recently i listened to his soundtrack of billy the kid, this record expresses best what i want to say.

syd barrett - somehow bigger than dylan or anybody else. but he went crazy too soon to reach a bigger audience.

suzanne vega - she is so incredibly clever and talented.

paul simon - possibly. just puts out magnificant songs, but i'm not enough of a musician to appreciate this

Death to the Pixies / Here comes Frank Black
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mcmikey
= Cult of Ray =

799 Posts

Posted - 02/02/2004 :  07:30:44  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Stuart

quote:
Originally posted by Adnan_le_Terrible

Zack de la Rocha? Songwriter? Come on!



I joined the three kitties club / And now I can participate to a secret forum with Charles.



Zach De La Rocha penned the lyrics to the Rage songs.... that would make him a songwriter, or are we talking from a musical sense? The first Rage album is a ground breaking album, and De La Rocha deserves a great deal of credit for this album alone. Maybe he hasn't done enough to warrant 'greatest songwriter' but he is a trully great lyricist and performer.

Who's the man that won't cop out when there's danger all about?



I'd hardly consider him one of the best songwriters around. I mean, come on, how many times can one person use the phrase "Pentagon, five-sided fistagon" in different songs. He spent all his ideas on the first album and spent the reast of their career rehashing, in my humble opinion

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remig
* Dog in the Sand *

France
1734 Posts

Posted - 02/02/2004 :  08:00:47  Show Profile
Did anybody mentionned Ray Davies (The Kinks)?

my top five:
Frank
Ray Davies
Brian Wilson (not only a composer!)
Lennon/McCartney
Patrick Bruel

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John Dark
- FB Fan -

USA
54 Posts

Posted - 02/06/2004 :  20:50:55  Show Profile  Visit John Dark's Homepage
Wow. Lots of safe/conservative pics.

Stephin Merritt
John Darnielle
Vic Chesnutt
Doug Martsch
Bruce Springsteen

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