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ProverbialCereal
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USA
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Posted - 08/26/2003 :  13:01:18  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Brackish Girl


...but to say you only want to talk about frank with other members of the gay community is a bit sad, and, as someone pointed out, heterophobic...

-Jessie


I don't think any gay people on this forum actually said they only wanted to talk to gay FB fans.

If any gay person said that, it would have been just as discriminating as a straight person saying: "I don't want to talk to any gay FB fans." Though some might disagree because gays are typically the minority so it probably seems alot worse for a straight to say the latter. But really, it shouldn't matter which is the minority or majority because either way it is discriminating.

Here is another question for gays:

Are you offended when people use the term "straight" when referring to a non-gay person? It seems like the opposite of straight is crooked, so I was wondering if that is offensive in any way.



-Derek
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =

Canada
11687 Posts

Posted - 08/26/2003 :  13:11:06  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage
Our resident population seems to use that term as much as anyone else, nevermind a term like 'queer'...
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Brackish Girl
~ Soul Eater ~

Ireland
1750 Posts

Posted - 08/26/2003 :  13:21:45  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by ProverbialCereal


I don't think any gay people on this forum actually said they only wanted to talk to gay FB fans.


okay, sorry. i just got that impession. sorry dudes! i just like to practice my crappy typing.

oh, and in ireland, queer used to be used as an insult to anyone. that was before we realised people could like people of the same sex! shock! horror! it meant weird or something. now thats not very nice.

-Jessie

"deep in ocean blues of absinthe..."
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FrequencyOfGlow
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USA
157 Posts

Posted - 08/26/2003 :  13:21:47  Show Profile  Visit FrequencyOfGlow's Homepage
I certainly never said I only wanted to talk to gay people about FB. That would narrow-minded and downright stupid. I just wanted to acknowledge those among the forum that might be GLBT. I have posted plenty in plenty of other non-gay threads.

I like that lemur, I lick it. That's velvety!
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Brackish Girl
~ Soul Eater ~

Ireland
1750 Posts

Posted - 08/26/2003 :  13:26:36  Show Profile
yeah, i didnt even know you were gay.

-Jessie

"deep in ocean blues of absinthe..."
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This Is It
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141 Posts

Posted - 08/26/2003 :  13:26:44  Show Profile
I've never liked the whole concept of a "gay" minority group. I think it's dumb enough to separate people into groups based on skin color or where their gammy is from. It seems absolutely ludicrous to have a minority group based on sexual preference. Are we going to have a minority group for sheep fuckers? Or do only majority-minority groups count? Or are minority groups only groups that were once shunned from society, but then begrudgingly allowed to co-exist with the masses? Here in the USA we have "black history month" (which is so monstrously absurd; it's like 'for this month and this month only, you mean something!') so are we to have a Homohistory month? and then a sheepfuckers month? I'm not trying to come off as crass, I'm trying to point out how odd it is that we do the lipservice of saying that we are all created equal, yet at the same time we furiously seek out new ways in which to segregate society.
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Brackish Girl
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Ireland
1750 Posts

Posted - 08/26/2003 :  13:29:45  Show Profile
what the hell is a gammy? i'm guessing grandmother.
???

-Jessie

"deep in ocean blues of absinthe..."
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Dave Noisy
Minister of Chaos

Canada
4496 Posts

Posted - 08/26/2003 :  13:34:15  Show Profile  Visit Dave Noisy's Homepage
Hey blarg007, if you follow any of the media, you're typically bombarded with reasons NOT to eat meat - from food poisoning to horrible conditions for the animals to polluted waters to cardiovascular disease and cancer.

Very rarely do i see a legitimate reason to eat meat. And there is absolutely no proof that we have any physiological need to eat it at all. (Seeing as i've been vegan for 13+yrs.)
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Erebus
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1834 Posts

Posted - 08/26/2003 :  13:48:19  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Dave Noisy

And there is absolutely no proof that we have any physiological need to eat it at all. (Seeing as i've been vegan for 13+yrs.)

Some of us might see you as living proof. [insert smiley face]
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Brackish Girl
~ Soul Eater ~

Ireland
1750 Posts

Posted - 08/26/2003 :  13:53:59  Show Profile
um, i can't see dave!!! is there something wrong with my computationer?[insert smiley face]

-Jessie

"deep in ocean blues of absinthe..."
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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Canada
6556 Posts

Posted - 08/26/2003 :  14:01:08  Show Profile
Oh you are one sassy lady BG! :)
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This Is It
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141 Posts

Posted - 08/26/2003 :  14:01:25  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Dave Noisy

Hey blarg007, if you follow any of the media, you're typically bombarded with reasons NOT to eat meat - from food poisoning to horrible conditions for the animals to polluted waters to cardiovascular disease and cancer.

Very rarely do i see a legitimate reason to eat meat. And there is absolutely no proof that we have any physiological need to eat it at all. (Seeing as i've been vegan for 13+yrs.)



common argument for eating meat is that no vegetables contains all nine essential amino acids, however, soy contains all nine essential amino acids, so a vegetable, fruit, nut diet with soy included offers all nutrients required by the body. In fact protein from nuts is arguably more beneficial then animal proteins as too much animal protein creates an acid condition in the blood which the body must neutralize by taking calcium from the bones. countries that eat the most animal protein have the highest rates of osteoporosis.
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Brackish Girl
~ Soul Eater ~

Ireland
1750 Posts

Posted - 08/26/2003 :  14:12:02  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Carolynanna

Oh you are one sassy lady BG! :)


Carolynanna, i am extremely innocent and naive. go on, explain my sassiness! heh, some guy(i'm thinking shaft) on tv said 'it's my duty to please their booty.' heh.

-Jessie

"deep in ocean blues of absinthe..."
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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Canada
6556 Posts

Posted - 08/26/2003 :  14:18:39  Show Profile
Like when I said ire and you said who's ire?
or like we can't actually see Dave.

Ach, maybe I meant smartass, but I like it Jessie.
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Brackish Girl
~ Soul Eater ~

Ireland
1750 Posts

Posted - 08/26/2003 :  14:27:10  Show Profile
heh heh, okay.

-Jessie

"deep in ocean blues of absinthe..."
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =

Canada
11687 Posts

Posted - 08/26/2003 :  14:30:00  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage
A wise man once said to me, "Better to be a smartass than a dumbass". Actually, I think it was someone on this board, so nevermind. :)
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <

South Sandwich Islands
4204 Posts

Posted - 08/26/2003 :  15:51:21  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by This Is It

Here in the USA we have "black history month" (which is so monstrously absurd; it's like 'for this month and this month only, you mean something!')



"Black History Month" is February-- the shortest month of the year.
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Dave Noisy
Minister of Chaos

Canada
4496 Posts

Posted - 08/26/2003 :  17:25:51  Show Profile  Visit Dave Noisy's Homepage
Am i the only one who finds it rather offensive TII keeps using sheep fuckers with gays..?

Also, TII, i'm pretty sure many other veggies contain all 9 essential amino acids, tho in varying proportions. And i'd also guess you don't need to eat all 9 in one sitting to be healthy...the 'protein combining' idea went out of style in the 70's, tho somehow it sticks. =(
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ProverbialCereal
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USA
2953 Posts

Posted - 08/26/2003 :  18:42:51  Show Profile
No matter what the topic, it seems the focus always gets shifted to whether it's healthy to eat meat. Me oh my.

-Derek
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =

Canada
11687 Posts

Posted - 08/26/2003 :  19:51:47  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage
Heh... I was thinking something similar, though I decided not to make fun of Dave until my 'other' plans had come to fruition. <insert minor string chord crescendo>
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El Barto
= Song DB Master =

USA
4020 Posts

Posted - 08/26/2003 :  21:12:06  Show Profile  Visit El Barto's Homepage
quote:
Very rarely do i see a legitimate reason to eat meat. And there is absolutely no proof that we have any physiological need to eat it at all. (Seeing as i've been vegan for 13+yrs.)


What reason do you need other than the fact that it's SO FUCKING TASTEY?

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FRANK BLACK SATAN WORKSHIP BLACK MASS
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Dave Noisy
Minister of Chaos

Canada
4496 Posts

Posted - 08/26/2003 :  22:54:04  Show Profile  Visit Dave Noisy's Homepage
Hey - someone else brought it up, didn't they? ;)
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TRANSMARINE
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
2002 Posts

Posted - 08/27/2003 :  00:35:38  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by El Barto

quote:
Very rarely do i see a legitimate reason to eat meat. And there is absolutely no proof that we have any physiological need to eat it at all. (Seeing as i've been vegan for 13+yrs.)


What reason do you need other than the fact that it's SO FUCKING TASTEY?

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FRANK BLACK SATAN WORKSHIP BLACK MASS




It's good for ya too!

Catchin' blue in his eyes that were brown

-bRIAN
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FrequencyOfGlow
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USA
157 Posts

Posted - 08/27/2003 :  07:14:21  Show Profile  Visit FrequencyOfGlow's Homepage
yeah, the sheep fuckers thing is an extreme way to make your point, This Is It. I can see where you are coming from, tho. It's strange to keep pigeonholing ourselves, but it's more richly layered than that.


I like that lemur, I lick it. That's velvety!
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This Is It
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141 Posts

Posted - 08/27/2003 :  08:03:56  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Dave Noisy

Am i the only one who finds it rather offensive TII keeps using sheep fuckers with gays..?

Also, TII, i'm pretty sure many other veggies contain all 9 essential amino acids, tho in varying proportions. And i'd also guess you don't need to eat all 9 in one sitting to be healthy...the 'protein combining' idea went out of style in the 70's, tho somehow it sticks. =(



don't get caught up in the wording; i'm trying to symbolize the comparison of sorting people into groups based on what their sexual preferences are. Which is dumb. I made no analogy that homosexuals and sheepfuckers were one in the same, so please bring no wrath where no wrath is due.

I'm not really sure what "protein combining" means or is referring to so I'm not in a position to reply.
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Dave Noisy
Minister of Chaos

Canada
4496 Posts

Posted - 08/27/2003 :  10:26:22  Show Profile  Visit Dave Noisy's Homepage
I'm sure if you put a little effort into it, you could have come up with a less offensive 'sexual preference'.

Perhaps you didn't mean to allude to anything, but your choice of terms was rather poor.
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astrology
= Cult of Ray =

Saint Lucia
252 Posts

Posted - 08/27/2003 :  10:36:52  Show Profile  Visit astrology's Homepage  Click to see astrology's MSN Messenger address
Dear Ramona:

i am laso very proud of you and your dad, there is an european movie with happy sailors and so on. there is a phrase i will remember: I am too macho because I even fuck men.
well I am sure that you where brougth to this world
with the same love that ypur father puts in any relationship.
to all homophobics i have read. I take for granted that anyone who likes Frank is an open minded person
so this is also an interesting question to talk about. I am very straight but now i am sure because i have faced sometime in my life this question.
behind homophobics all i see is fear of themselves to discover how gay they could be

saludos
david
sevilla

get me to lemouria
and vaya usted con Dios.
I pay the gas but in euros please
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This Is It
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141 Posts

Posted - 08/27/2003 :  10:52:20  Show Profile
if I thought "will this offend somebody?" prior to every time I spoke or wrote a sentiment, then I'd be a politician. I don't want to be a politician. Besides, what makes more sense: me having to customize my thoughts to every individual person, or each individual person using a little effort to try and control their reactions to the opinions that come to them.

ONCE there was a king who had grown tired of walking on the hard ground and demanded that the grounds of the kingdom be covered with fur. His advisor informed him that this would be quite expensive and difficult to do. He provided the king with a more reasonable alternative: perhaps cut the furs to the size of the king's foot and attach the fur to the foot? The king consented to his advisor's wisdom and spared the fate of countless animals having to surrender their lives for the king's comfort.
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El Barto
= Song DB Master =

USA
4020 Posts

Posted - 08/27/2003 :  11:17:52  Show Profile  Visit El Barto's Homepage
I support you in your sheepfuckers analogy. I understood what you meant from the get-go and never thought you were lobbing homosexuals and sheep fuckers in the same group. Some people are overly sensitive. Those people, my friend, are sheepfuckers.

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FRANK BLACK SATAN WORKSHIP BLACK MASS
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This Is It
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141 Posts

Posted - 08/27/2003 :  11:35:43  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by El Barto

I support you in your sheepfuckers analogy. I understood what you meant from the get-go and never thought you were lobbing homosexuals and sheep fuckers in the same group. Some people are overly sensitive. Those people, my friend, are sheepfuckers.

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FRANK BLACK SATAN WORKSHIP BLACK MASS



I'm glad somebody understands my analogies. I don't try and bring anger and tension to the forum, I try to bring some new ideas. But if people are going to play the game of "you can only communicate to me in a very generic way or else I'll use your words against you" well then, fuck it I guess.
I do actually premeditate my posts so as to try and communicate my thoughts in a way where people will be receptive without getting hung up on a word or a sentence, but I can't guarantee appeasement. So I just hope that people will understand that if you get offended, I probably didn't intend it that way.
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astrology
= Cult of Ray =

Saint Lucia
252 Posts

Posted - 08/27/2003 :  12:43:23  Show Profile  Visit astrology's Homepage  Click to see astrology's MSN Messenger address
Dear Friends:
well i have read something about sheep fuckers?
well in Spain sheeps are still grown the traditional way so the flock and the herdsman are long periods of time in the mountain and nights are long and lonely, in every flock of sheep you always see one that is cleaner and better combed than the others, it is said to be the herdsman favourite, but you dont have o look at that detail, just look for the only one that is always smiling

saludos
david
sevilla

get me to lemouria
and vaya usted con Dios.
I pay the gas but in euros please
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FrequencyOfGlow
- FB Fan -

USA
157 Posts

Posted - 08/27/2003 :  13:52:28  Show Profile  Visit FrequencyOfGlow's Homepage
If the sheep fuckers want a month, I say give 'em a month! Preferably a cold month when the loving warmth and comfort of a good sheep is just the thing in the harsh bite of winter's wind.

I like that lemur, I lick it. That's velvety!

Edited by - FrequencyOfGlow on 08/27/2003 13:53:19
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This Is It
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141 Posts

Posted - 08/27/2003 :  14:05:56  Show Profile
seriously though freq., what would you say if Tom Lantos (Representative for San Mateo/San Francisco district) authored a bill asserting that there should be a Gay history month where school children around the country forego their science and math for the month so they can go to assemblies and learn about Harry Hay? Where does it end? Does something have to be nationally recognized to be important? I don't think it does. Let's stop segregating society into groups and let's stop deciding that some of these groups are worth knowing about and some are not. I don't know. I'll shutup now. Time to go home anyways.

Cheers

P.S. HERE'S A PIC OF ME JUST IN CASE YOU WERE CURIOUS TO SEE WHAT I LOOK LIKE; IT'S AT THIS LINK:

http://www.bostonphoenix.com/boston/news_features/other_stories/images/02512853.gif

Edited by - This Is It on 08/27/2003 14:51:06
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FrequencyOfGlow
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USA
157 Posts

Posted - 08/27/2003 :  15:19:50  Show Profile  Visit FrequencyOfGlow's Homepage
I think public schools should teach math, science, history and basically how to support yourself. Art, too, just for some right brain action. Really nothing more. That is to say, TII that I am in agreeance with you (if I may quote uber-genius Fred Durst)
But if there are events in Gay history which pertain to society as a whole and have an effect on the course of society, such as the recent supreme court decision, these events should not be excluded because of their subject matter.

I like that lemur, I lick it. That's velvety!
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This Is It
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141 Posts

Posted - 08/27/2003 :  15:45:35  Show Profile
yes, but how did you like my scarf? it's versace.
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