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Omer
= Cult of Ray =

275 Posts

Posted - 04/23/2003 :  11:41:21  Show Profile
Hi I'm trying to make a list of songs never played live, at least a partial one. I guess I'm gonna post songs I think were never played live and ask for additions of corrections, ok?

Frank Black:
Places Named After Numbers, Adda Lee

Teenager of the Year:
Fazer Eyes, Bad Wicked World, Pie in the Sky

Cult of Ray:
Punk Rock City, Advanture and the Resolution, Dance War
(Cult of Ray performed only once, I believe)

FB&TC:
(The Man Who Was Too Loud was performed with Teenage Fanclub, but was it ever performed with the Catholics or with Frank's pre Catholic 'regular' bands?)

Pistolero:
I Think I'm Trying to Lose it

Dog in the Sand:
St. Francis Dam Disaster

Black Letter Days:
1826, Jet Black River

Devil's Workshop:
His Kingly Cave, San Antonio TX, Modern Age, The Scene, The Fields of Marigold


Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =

Canada
11687 Posts

Posted - 04/23/2003 :  11:44:03  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage
Nope, I've heard Fields of Marigold twice when he was touring to promote BLD/DW last year at this time. Haven't heard any of the rest.
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =

Mexico
15297 Posts

Posted - 04/23/2003 :  11:51:48  Show Profile
i would add Pray For The Girls to that.. even though it's a TV show theme..

i'm pretty positive i've heard The Man Who Was Too Loud, and Adda Lee before..

i've definitely heard Bad Wicked World, Dance War, San Antonio TX, Modern Age and Kingly Cave..

i think he's probably played most everything at one time or another..
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Itchload
= Cult of Ray =

USA
891 Posts

Posted - 04/23/2003 :  11:55:04  Show Profile
During the first tours for just FB, didn't he play pretty much every song off that album each night?
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Niue
7443 Posts

Posted - 04/23/2003 :  13:05:39  Show Profile  Visit vilainde's Homepage
I'm almost sure he played Dance War in Paris, '96. And Modern Age was played for a Peel Session I believe.
Omer, are you certain that all the songs you didn't mention have been payed live?



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franktaper
- FB Fan -

USA
158 Posts

Posted - 04/23/2003 :  13:20:10  Show Profile
Places Named After Numbers, Adda Lee, Bad Wicked World, The Man Who Was Too Loud, Modern Age, and Fields of Marigold have all been played live before. I have copies of them all somewhere.
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quote:
Originally posted by Omer

Hi I'm trying to make a list of songs never played live, at least a partial one. I guess I'm gonna post songs I think were never played live and ask for additions of corrections, ok?

Frank Black:
Places Named After Numbers, Adda Lee

Teenager of the Year:
Fazer Eyes, Bad Wicked World, Pie in the Sky

Cult of Ray:
Punk Rock City, Advanture and the Resolution, Dance War
(Cult of Ray performed only once, I believe)

FB&TC:
(The Man Who Was Too Loud was performed with Teenage Fanclub, but was it ever performed with the Catholics or with Frank's pre Catholic 'regular' bands?)

Pistolero:
I Think I'm Trying to Lose it

Dog in the Sand:
St. Francis Dam Disaster

Black Letter Days:
1826, Jet Black River

Devil's Workshop:
His Kingly Cave, San Antonio TX, Modern Age, The Scene, The Fields of Marigold




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mdisanto
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1140 Posts

Posted - 04/23/2003 :  13:25:57  Show Profile  Visit mdisanto's Homepage
its wierd how much he seems to ignore off devils workshop, they seem like live kinda songs, a lot of them atleast. i saw fb&c's and im pretty sure they didnt play one song from devils workshop at the concert, just whiskey in your shoes at the instore.

-miked

Edited by - mdisanto on 04/23/2003 13:26:40
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Erebus
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1834 Posts

Posted - 04/23/2003 :  13:41:23  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Itchload

During the first tours for just FB, didn't he play pretty much every song off that album each night?


Sure seems like it. I've got a couple three bootlegs from that tour which amount to the FB album "Live", not that I'm complaining. Kinda nice to have the entire album in a single show. Wouldn't be so bad if Frank made a point of it even today. On the other hand, given the amount of FB + FB&C material he has now, I guess audiences would expect more variety. If I had my druthers I've have it both ways: bootlegs from each tour covering the latest discs Live as well as offering the more varied sets he tends to play.
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <

South Sandwich Islands
4204 Posts

Posted - 04/23/2003 :  13:53:09  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Itchload

During the first tours for just FB, didn't he play pretty much every song off that album each night?



Yep. My wife and I saw him on the first tour at the Palace in LA. As I recall he played just about every song off the first album. Of course there was zero chance of him playing a Pixies song back then.
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KingOfSiam
- FB LinkMaster -

USA
460 Posts

Posted - 04/23/2003 :  14:41:47  Show Profile
i have a live show with Pie in the sky from France in 94
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PsychicTwin
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1772 Posts

Posted - 04/23/2003 :  15:30:13  Show Profile  Visit PsychicTwin's Homepage
I saw the band play San Antonio, TX at the first of three shows I saw on the DW/BLD tour. So that one has been played live, albeit rarely...
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BillyRadcliffe
- FB Fan -

USA
17 Posts

Posted - 04/23/2003 :  16:10:52  Show Profile
i know he did adda lee at the nyc show in 1994 (the one with they might be giants), and i have a recording of dance war from vancouver 1996...so i know there are at least those
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frankblackphx
= Cult of Ray =

USA
287 Posts

Posted - 04/23/2003 :  16:12:34  Show Profile  Visit frankblackphx's Homepage
I have a boot with Fazer Eyes on it as well.

I got me so down I got me a headache.
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gary13th
= Cult of Ray =

United Kingdom
632 Posts

Posted - 04/23/2003 :  16:16:46  Show Profile  Visit gary13th's Homepage  Click to see gary13th's MSN Messenger address
Places named after numbers/adda lee - they're on a bootleg called "no big deal"
I have dance war immediately following the rocking version of Brackish Boy on a bootleg "turn on,tune in and black out"
got Bad wicked world (from the ftp ? reading ? cant remember...)
St francis dam disaster has been played, though i dont think i have a copy
Modern age was on the "kitchen tapes" - where joey and frank were demoing it years ago

i'd love to hear Pray for the girls live (hint hint Harris....Frank....etc...)


~you will get used to me, welcome to your new joy
Heloise by FB&TC
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NimrodsSon
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1938 Posts

Posted - 04/23/2003 :  18:01:01  Show Profile
Punk Rock City and Modern Age have been played live too
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Omer
= Cult of Ray =

275 Posts

Posted - 04/23/2003 :  18:07:18  Show Profile
King of Syam - any chance we'll trade that.

OK, cool that I got it wrong. I would like to get a reference or two for the shows where they played 'The Man Who Was Too Loud', 'Fields of Marigold' and 'San Antonio, TX'. I've heard several reports that he played 'His Kingly Cave' but never seen it on a live setlist. Same goes for 'St. Francis Dam Disaster'.

Vilande - no, I might have missed a bunch.

OK, so what about non album tracks? here's a short and almost certainly incomplete list:

1. Pray for the Girls
2. Surf Epic
3. Changing of the Guards (Dylan)
4. I'm Going Down (Springsteen)
5. Pan american Highway
6. The Big Hurt
7. Amnesia
8. 119 Years Ago
9. Vally of our hope
10. Everyone is Wrong (as far as I know was only played on the Peel session)


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carsonwerner
= Cult of Ray =

USA
254 Posts

Posted - 04/23/2003 :  18:39:39  Show Profile  Visit carsonwerner's Homepage
Well I don't really think he'd play 119 years ago since it's a Reeves Gabrels (or however you spell it) song.
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mdisanto
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1140 Posts

Posted - 04/23/2003 :  18:59:10  Show Profile  Visit mdisanto's Homepage
man pray for the girls would be so cool. isnt 119 years a mike watt song and jewel is reeves? or are they both reeves? what about chinese fire drill

-miked
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switchy
- Gigographer -

USA
324 Posts

Posted - 04/23/2003 :  19:53:54  Show Profile  Visit switchy's Homepage
you can check the Frank Black Gigography for a good idea of which songs they've done over the years. it's near the bottom..
http://members.cox.net/fbsi/frankshows.html
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Stuart
- The Clopser -

China
2291 Posts

Posted - 04/23/2003 :  21:25:55  Show Profile  Visit Stuart's Homepage
Yeah, I often wander why the guys don't play The Scene, its one of the best recent songs they've done.... they haven't played End of Miles recently either, which again baffles me. Has anyone heard End of Miles live, how does it sound??

International Air Guitar Hitman
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =

Canada
11687 Posts

Posted - 04/23/2003 :  21:31:55  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage
Heh... I asked this awhile ago, it's on the FTP from one of the Toronto shows, which doesn't compare to live, but it might give you some sort of an idea. It's one of my favourites and I still have yet to hear it, but I bet it kicks the album version all to heck ala Jane.
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ProverbialCereal
- FB TabMaster -

USA
2953 Posts

Posted - 04/23/2003 :  21:34:13  Show Profile
The Scene is really growing on me. I just thought it was decent at first, now I love it.

For some reason, Frank Black does NOT seem to want to play any Kenny G songs live. Personally, I think the Catholics would pull it off quite well. Frank B, Rich G, Scott B...


-Derek
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Bohemoth
- FB Fan -

USA
246 Posts

Posted - 04/23/2003 :  21:38:55  Show Profile
I think sertan songs that they just sometimes do has to do with the sound of the venue that night. thing have to sound a sertanway for them to want to plat somes songs.
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Bohemoth
- FB Fan -

USA
246 Posts

Posted - 04/23/2003 :  21:44:10  Show Profile
man I fu*** that last mesage up I need to type slower sorry
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KingOfSiam
- FB LinkMaster -

USA
460 Posts

Posted - 04/23/2003 :  22:59:33  Show Profile
Omer
Email me and we can work out a trade.

St Francis has never been played!

I would love to get a copy of a show with "Out of State" - how often has he played that?
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PsychicTwin
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1772 Posts

Posted - 04/24/2003 :  07:17:33  Show Profile  Visit PsychicTwin's Homepage
I saw them play "Out of State" once...I was hella pleased too, because I think that song is probably my favorite of off both DW and BLD.

Man, i WISH they would play Valley of our Hope. that is arguably one of my favorite Frank songs ever.
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franktaper
- FB Fan -

USA
158 Posts

Posted - 04/24/2003 :  10:28:48  Show Profile
Seems that they played Out Of State somewhat often during the late April/early May 2002 run. I saw them play it 3 times that tour.

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Originally posted by KingOfSiam

Omer
I would love to get a copy of a show with "Out of State" - how often has he played that?

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stymie
= Cult of Ray =

385 Posts

Posted - 04/24/2003 :  15:28:14  Show Profile  Visit stymie's Homepage
Wanna trade shows franktaper?
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NimrodsSon
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1938 Posts

Posted - 04/25/2003 :  12:15:48  Show Profile
quote:

Originally posted by Stuart

Has anyone heard End of Miles live, how does it sound??


I heard it acoustic in the last tour and it sounded great. I'm surprised they don't play it more since he says it's his favorite song.

Edited by - NimrodsSon on 04/25/2003 12:20:11
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Stuart
- The Clopser -

China
2291 Posts

Posted - 04/25/2003 :  19:32:23  Show Profile  Visit Stuart's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by ProverbialCereal


For some reason, Frank Black does NOT seem to want to play any Kenny G songs live. Personally, I think the Catholics would pull it off quite well. Frank B, Rich G, Scott B...



Kenny G! That would be cool. A couple of my mates (and this is no lie) saw Kenny G being chatted up by a prostitute in a whorehouse in Beijing aboout 6 months ago after he had been playing a string of gigs in Beijing. In Beijing you cannot avoid 'The G' as his music is played in every restaurant in town, that would probably change if they knew he was "potentially" a seasoned whore-shagger.



International Air Guitar Hitman

Edited by - Stuart on 04/25/2003 19:34:44
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Jose Jones
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1758 Posts

Posted - 04/27/2003 :  10:46:06  Show Profile  Visit Jose Jones's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by Stuart

Yeah, I often wander why the guys don't play The Scene, its one of the best recent songs they've done.... they haven't played End of Miles recently either, which again baffles me. Has anyone heard End of Miles live, how does it sound??

International Air Guitar Hitman



he played end of miles in milwaukee on march 30th. it was real good.

-dan
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Niue
7443 Posts

Posted - 05/06/2003 :  07:38:13  Show Profile  Visit vilainde's Homepage
Same question... new list of songs that might never have been played live:

Surf Epic
The Ballad Of Johnny Horton
Duke Of Earl
Olé Mulholland
The Hostess With The Mostest
Amnesia
Breathless
Mosh, Don’t Pass The Guy
The Creature Crawling
The Adventure And The Resolution
The Cult Of Ray
Better Things
Back To Rome
Suffering
Do Nothing
I’m Going Down
The Big Hurt
Tiny Heart
Smoke Up
I think I’m Starting To Lose It
Pray For The Girls
St Francis Dam Disaster
Pan American Highway
Man Of Constant Sorrow
Sleep
Chip Away Boy
Black Letter Day
Valentine And Garuda
1826
Southbound Bevy
True Blue
Jet Black River
Whispering Weeds
The Scene


Denis
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
6214 Posts

Posted - 05/06/2003 :  08:19:56  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address
southbound bevy is played lot's of times
not that I've seen him perform it
cause he wasn't around Holland lately
but according to setlists
I played it live very often



''it's not a box, it's a submarine''
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franktaper
- FB Fan -

USA
158 Posts

Posted - 05/06/2003 :  08:38:40  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by vilainde

Same question... new list of songs that might never have been played live:

Surf Epic (yes, but with lyrics as Dog In The Sand)
The Ballad Of Johnny Horton
Duke Of Earl (yes, was played quite often early on in solo career)
Olé Mulholland (yes)
The Hostess With The Mostest
Amnesia
Breathless
Mosh, Don’t Pass The Guy (not sure, but I do recall him saying these exact words at a show)
The Creature Crawling (not sure)
The Adventure And The Resolution
The Cult Of Ray
Better Things
Back To Rome (yes, frequently)
Suffering (yes, frequently)
Do Nothing
I’m Going Down
The Big Hurt
Tiny Heart
Smoke Up (yes, frequently)
I think I’m Starting To Lose It
Pray For The Girls
St Francis Dam Disaster
Pan American Highway
Man Of Constant Sorrow
Sleep
Chip Away Boy (yes, on the most recent tour)
Black Letter Day (yes, frequently)
Valentine And Garuda (yes, frequently)
1826
Southbound Bevy (yes, frequently)
True Blue
Jet Black River
Whispering Weeds
The Scene (no, never)
Pray A Little Faster, Pie In The Sky, Adda Lee, Billy Radcliffe, Humboldt County Massacre, Living On Soul, The Snake, Blast Off, I Will Run After You, Heloise, and the Shrimp Song are more rare-ish songs that have all been played live too.

Denis

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Eyeballseesall
- FB Fan -

USA
1 Posts

Posted - 05/06/2003 :  18:07:03  Show Profile
I seem to remember him playing St. Francis Dam Disaster solo at the Knitting factory in Hollywood before the album came out then later in Dublin in support of the album. I could be wrong.

-Gabriel

"I'm glad I fought, I only wish we won."
-B. Dylan
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =

Mexico
15297 Posts

Posted - 05/06/2003 :  19:29:54  Show Profile
among other stuff, he and dave p. busted out a brilliant version of End Of Miles at Amoeba Records in Hollywood last year.. it works great with just him on acoustic and dave p. on the pedal steel..

i think we should all campaign for Frank to play Pray For The Girls live sometime.. that seems to be one (great song) that no one seems to have ever heard live..

c'mon Frank.. pleeeease..
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