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natenate101
= Cult of Ray =

USA
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Posted - 03/18/2020 :  10:42:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by BunsenH

Silver Snail and Tenement Song



Bel Espirit - the chimpanzee line, still makes me cringe.
Baalís Back - itís loud and BF yells which is usually a winger but itís the Blue Eyed Hexe third verse type of yelling which doesnít really resonate.
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Brank_Flack
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
649 Posts

Posted - 03/18/2020 :  11:57:05  Show Profile  Click to see Brank_Flack's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Active Duck

Indie Cindy.
Really don't enjoy that kind of macho/stilted part in the first minute. I'm not a fan of the whole concept behind this song and it also loses a lot of points for inspiring the worst pixies album title.

Snakes.
Snakes / Are coming to your town / In tunnels underground / Some travelling overground - just can't live with the underground overground lines for whatever reason.





I agree with you on snakes - I always notice that line as well.

I think the "macho/stilted" verses of Indie Cindy contrast nicely with the vulnerable and insecure choruses.

Seems like Frank was trying to channel Mark E. Smith with Indie Cindy and Bag Boy - it didn't fully work, but it was an interesting experiment.
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Jamie
- FB Fan -

USA
59 Posts

Posted - 03/18/2020 :  22:10:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Silver Snail
Tenement Song
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Active Duck
~ Abstract Brain ~

United Kingdom
395 Posts

Posted - 03/19/2020 :  05:06:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Bedbug

I love when people share the reasons why they are voting off songs.

Active Duck, interesting take on Indie Cindy. I actually like the concept of that song, but I feel like it didn't pull it off in the execution. I still think that old solo performance of it by FB is one of the best. It never sounds that good live with the whole 2.0 band. The macho-ness of IC song also seems to go along with Bagboy maybe? But I agree, worst album title of any Pixies album. It never seemed right.

I wish I could give well thought out reasons for why I don't like BB. I just don't like it. It sounds too much like a strained attempt to sound like something that isn't really coming naturally. I think St. Nazaire is a much better attempt to capture what Baal's Back could not.

Snakes sounds like a FB quickie that Joey kind of spiced up a bit. It's got some weirdness going for it. But not the best for sure.



I thought Bagboy was my, no contest, no.1 choice to vote off but listening to the survivor playlist I was surprised that my feelings on it aren't really all that strong. That would possibly change if I listened to a live performance though - I feel like they never managed to get it to flow live.
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Bedbug
* Dog in the Sand *

2118 Posts

Posted - 03/19/2020 :  08:46:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Active Duck

quote:
Originally posted by Bedbug

I love when people share the reasons why they are voting off songs.

Active Duck, interesting take on Indie Cindy. I actually like the concept of that song, but I feel like it didn't pull it off in the execution. I still think that old solo performance of it by FB is one of the best. It never sounds that good live with the whole 2.0 band. The macho-ness of IC song also seems to go along with Bagboy maybe? But I agree, worst album title of any Pixies album. It never seemed right.

I wish I could give well thought out reasons for why I don't like BB. I just don't like it. It sounds too much like a strained attempt to sound like something that isn't really coming naturally. I think St. Nazaire is a much better attempt to capture what Baal's Back could not.

Snakes sounds like a FB quickie that Joey kind of spiced up a bit. It's got some weirdness going for it. But not the best for sure.



I thought Bagboy was my, no contest, no.1 choice to vote off but listening to the survivor playlist I was surprised that my feelings on it aren't really all that strong. That would possibly change if I listened to a live performance though - I feel like they never managed to get it to flow live.



Bagboy always seems to bring up a lot of discussions / strong feelings. It's quite polarizing. I got the feeling that the original 2.0 line up was not into the parts that they had to sing / chant. Hence the version of the song that has less of that. Eventually it fell out of the live rotation.
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Troubles A Foot
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USA
213 Posts

Posted - 03/19/2020 :  12:01:04  Show Profile  Visit Troubles A Foot's Homepage  Reply with Quote
For me ultimately Bag Boy and a few other songs on Indie Cindy feel like the Pixies to me, because they are weird and unexpected and kind of indefinable (and also rockin'). I appreciate that more than the basically pleasant Head Carrier songs, which was a "return to form" in most people's eyes, for some bizarre reason.
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Bedbug
* Dog in the Sand *

2118 Posts

Posted - 03/20/2020 :  07:03:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yeah, bag boy feels like FB pushing it, testing boundaries and testing audience patience / expectations, which is great. HC maybe would be considered a much safer effort.

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sdon
= Cult of Ray =

France
754 Posts

Posted - 03/20/2020 :  07:14:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Bedbug

I love when people share the reasons why they are voting off songs.

Active Duck, interesting take on Indie Cindy. I actually like the concept of that song, but I feel like it didn't pull it off in the execution. I still think that old solo performance of it by FB is one of the best. It never sounds that good live with the whole 2.0 band. The macho-ness of IC song also seems to go along with Bagboy maybe? But I agree, worst album title of any Pixies album. It never seemed right.

I wish I could give well thought out reasons for why I don't like BB. I just don't like it. It sounds too much like a strained attempt to sound like something that isn't really coming naturally. I think St. Nazaire is a much better attempt to capture what Baal's Back could not.

Snakes sounds like a FB quickie that Joey kind of spiced up a bit. It's got some weirdness going for it. But not the best for sure.



Totally agree Indie Cindy is a poor title... but the song coudl have been really great, and yes this solo version by BF was so raw and promising, instead of the sugary thing Gil Norton made

Baal's back album version is meh, but the first live versions we heard before HC was released (like in Lisbon) were really intense and true

Snakes has awful chorus lyrics (not as bad as Another Toe but almost), and it's too unsophisticated for Pixies, for sure

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"Fucking up my devotion!"
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Troubles A Foot
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USA
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Posted - 03/20/2020 :  13:45:40  Show Profile  Visit Troubles A Foot's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Snakes is unsophisticated? How odd. I would call it quintessential Pixies. Interesting musical arrangement, the timing is really strange and unorthodox, etc.

Edited by - Troubles A Foot on 03/20/2020 13:45:49
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Bedbug
* Dog in the Sand *

2118 Posts

Posted - 03/22/2020 :  06:10:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
When I think sophisticated Pixies I think Peachy Peace and Kissy Kiss. Now those are some sophisticated lyrics!

Stormy Weather is another sophisticated tune for sure. U-Mass has some glorious sophistication as well.
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BunsenH
= Cult of Ray =

272 Posts

Posted - 03/23/2020 :  10:11:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
OK - I'm killing all four: "Tenement", "Snail", "Baal's" and "Bel" (don't know why, but I actually like "Bel Espirit").

Hopefully, this will speed things up (and make things more difficult)....

Let's go - new round!
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BunsenH
= Cult of Ray =

272 Posts

Posted - 03/23/2020 :  10:12:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by BunsenH

Some of you may recall that shortly after 'Head Carrier' was released, I put together a game of Pixies "survivor". Now that we've had a chance to digest BtE and its bonus material, I thought it might be worth revisiting, if folks are up for playing.

Just vote for your least favorite Pixies 2.0 song and every few days I will remove the song with the most votes. In the end, we'll hopefully have a trim, punchy 2.0 collection of 12 songs (continuing in the 2.0 format).

Here's the list (46 songs!!):

All I Think About Now
All the Saints
Andro Queen
Another Toe in the Ocean
Baal's Back
Bagboy
Bel Esprit
Bird of Prey
Blue Eyed Hexe
Catfish Kate
Caught in a Dream
Chapel Hill
Classic Masher
Daniel Boone
Death Horizon
Greens and Blues
Head Carrier
Hey, Debussy
How I Learned to Earn Rewards
I Just Can't Break It to You
In the Arms of Mrs.†Mark of Cain
Indie Cindy
Jaime Bravo
Long Rider
Los Surfers Muertos
Magdalena 318
Mal De Mer
Might as Well Be Gone
On Graveyard Hill
Oona
Plaster of Paris
Please Don't Go
Ready for Love
Ring the Bell
Silver Bullet
Silver Snail
Snakes
St. Nazaire
Talent
Tenement Song
The Good Works of Cyrus
This Is My Fate
Um Chagga Lagga
Under the Marigold
What Goes Boom
Women of War

I also put together a 2.0 Survivor playlist for those that have Spotify (includes everything except 'Women of War'):

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5OG0auENf8QeaaRvgRbBhW?si=XPaK1ES_TE6FAeiWaUW6WQ

Let the slaughter begin!


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Bedbug
* Dog in the Sand *

2118 Posts

Posted - 03/23/2020 :  13:23:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hmmm

In many ways this will be a challenging part of the match, because there are many songs that are good but not great, don't feel really strongly about.

Got to think about it some more
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The Maharal
= Cult of Ray =

860 Posts

Posted - 03/23/2020 :  14:06:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
On Graveyard Hill
Ready for Love
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Bedbug
* Dog in the Sand *

2118 Posts

Posted - 03/23/2020 :  20:17:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think Iím gonna go with

Chapel Hill - fun little jam but def feels like a demo scrap

Under the Marigold - kind of forgettable
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Brank_Flack
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
649 Posts

Posted - 03/24/2020 :  06:24:02  Show Profile  Click to see Brank_Flack's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I Just Can't Break It To You
Women of War
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Bedbug
* Dog in the Sand *

2118 Posts

Posted - 03/24/2020 :  07:57:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You know, I just listened to my two votes again.

Chapel Hill I will stick with, first because it's so short and second because it really just feels like them jamming and being weird, WHICH IS AWESOME, but still, hard to think of it as a legit song that could dethrone an album track.

Under the Marigold I'll stick with too. It's a fine FBF toe tapper, he's the master of those, but it seems like it would fit more on SMYT or Honeycomb than on a Pixies album. So those are my two votes this round for sure.
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Active Duck
~ Abstract Brain ~

United Kingdom
395 Posts

Posted - 03/25/2020 :  03:50:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I guess I'm sticking with my previous choices then...

Indie Cindy
Snakes
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Bedbug
* Dog in the Sand *

2118 Posts

Posted - 03/25/2020 :  11:00:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
8 votes cast for 8 different songs.

That right there says a lot about our man.
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Fitzy
- FB Fan -

Portugal
80 Posts

Posted - 03/25/2020 :  15:55:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Please Don't Go - probably my least favorite Pixies 2.0 song, it sounds like an average Honeycomb or FM/RM take.
How I Learned to Earn Rewards
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Bedbug
* Dog in the Sand *

2118 Posts

Posted - 03/26/2020 :  07:11:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Fitzy

Please Don't Go - probably my least favorite Pixies 2.0 song, it sounds like an average Honeycomb or FM/RM take.
How I Learned to Earn Rewards



Oh man, Rewards is my favorite demo. Oh well :-/
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BunsenH
= Cult of Ray =

272 Posts

Posted - 03/31/2020 :  08:34:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My votes go to Graveyard Hill and Snakes. Therefore, both are dead.

New round. My votes are for Talent and I Just Canít Break it to You.
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Bedbug
* Dog in the Sand *

2118 Posts

Posted - 03/31/2020 :  08:50:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by BunsenH

My votes go to Graveyard Hill and Snakes. Therefore, both are dead.

New round. My votes are for Talent and I Just Canít Break it to You.



Graveyard Hill is cool, not very Pixies sounding to me, more like Catholics or something from solo BF era, not really an FB song either. Snakes is just a weird tune that I like, nothing I can't live without, so au revoir to both.

I'm gonna stick with Chapel Hill, there's just not much too it. It's a scrap as he calls them that got sort of released.

I will join our host and vote for I Just Can't Break It To You. I like it but there's so many songs on the same basic label, something has to go.

Chapel and Can't Break it
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Brank_Flack
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
649 Posts

Posted - 04/01/2020 :  05:22:36  Show Profile  Click to see Brank_Flack's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I Just Can't Break It To You
Women of War
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Bedbug
* Dog in the Sand *

2118 Posts

Posted - 04/02/2020 :  02:54:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Uhoh, Iím starting to really get into I Just Canít Break It To You

Very catchy

Jís guitar on fighter jets is cool!
Not gonna change my votes but itís a cool tune
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sdon
= Cult of Ray =

France
754 Posts

Posted - 04/02/2020 :  09:17:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ready for Love
Talent

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"Aristophanes! (gong sounds)"
"Fucking up my devotion!"
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The Maharal
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860 Posts

Posted - 04/04/2020 :  07:46:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ready for Love
Chapel Hill
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