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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~

Belize
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Posted - 09/07/2004 :  19:51:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It rocks... best thing I have heard in years. Now I wish I would have started listening to FB earlier! I'm broke right now and listening to it on Real Rhapsody... but as soon as I get some money I am going to check out some of the other albums too.

glacial906
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
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Posted - 09/07/2004 :  20:08:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Man...the first time I heard TOTY was about ten years ago...ah...good times, good times. I feel about a hundred now.



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Thomas
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
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Posted - 09/07/2004 :  20:43:33  Show Profile  Click to see Thomas's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
The original TOTY 1994 cassette is still in my car. Boy has it been places.

edit for year correction.


"Our Love is Rice and Beans and Horses Lard"

Edited by - Thomas on 09/08/2004 12:45:44
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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~

Belize
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Posted - 09/07/2004 :  20:48:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wow ... I feel lame for taking so long to catch on!

TOTY is a instant favorite... FB really took it to some other stratopheric level on that one! I am blown away. Now I see why some many people are begging to get the Catholics touring again

So is SMYT the next best place to listen. Is TOTY Franks masterpiece? Wow...that was the best new music I have listened to in ages! (New Pixies excluded).
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Jose Jones
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
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Posted - 09/07/2004 :  21:00:15  Show Profile  Visit Jose Jones's Homepage  Reply with Quote
well, if you like americana, go with catholics. if you want something more along the lines of TOTY, go with the first FB release, also known as "orange", "yellow", "s/t", and "awesome".

-dan
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glacial906
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1738 Posts

Posted - 09/07/2004 :  21:04:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
TOTY and SMYT are two completely different places; two completely different styles. I would say, if you want the whole Frank Black Experience (that should be the new name of his band) then just go chronologically. In that case you should backtrack a bit, pick up the FB debut (the controversial yellow/orange album) and then go on to the Cult of Ray, and so on and so forth.

P.S. Although I love TOTY, I still am a teeny bit more partial to the debut album. It has a cohesive, fluid feeling throughout the whole album that TOTY lacks.




Edited by - glacial906 on 09/07/2004 21:06:08
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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <

Poland
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Posted - 09/08/2004 :  04:49:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i first listened to TOTY then show me your tears, then frank black s/t, and then i got the rest at the same time and listened to them two or three times chronologically.

i'd say doing it in in order is the best idea though.

TOTY is one of my favourites. completely different to newer stuff though. the first self titled album is the most similar, btw.

i've noticed i have a new favourite frank black song every week, from all albums.
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n/a
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Posted - 09/08/2004 :  09:09:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have had it in my life for only five years, and what a lovely five years they have been, sigh.


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ShakeyShake
* Dog in the Sand *

United Kingdom
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Posted - 09/08/2004 :  10:12:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yah,great album,it took me a few listens to get into the first few songs,including abstract plain,which I now adore.I fucking love Freedom Rock,the intro,well...rocks.


"I joined the Cult of this guy / 'cause they took my other picture away
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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~

Belize
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Posted - 09/08/2004 :  10:53:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks everyone, you rock.. I can't wait to have more... I already have the orange/yellow album...so I think I will go in order. :) I can't wait. I can't wait to hear TOTY again!
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n/a
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Posted - 09/08/2004 :  11:08:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Thomas

The original TOTY 1993 cassette is still in my car. Boy has it been places.


"Our Love is Rice and Beans and Horses Lard"



That´s funny because I´ve got the original cassete too that a friend recorded to me for a long time ago, I feel old when I remember it! I don´t listen to it anymore because I got the CD, but is really a great album!

Eu estava perdida mas agora encontrei-me...
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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <

Poland
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Posted - 09/08/2004 :  11:28:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
didn't it come out in 94?
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Thomas
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
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Posted - 09/08/2004 :  13:01:19  Show Profile  Click to see Thomas's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Daisy Girl

Thanks everyone, you rock.. I can't wait to have more... I already have the orange/yellow album...so I think I will go in order. :) I can't wait. I can't wait to hear TOTY again!


Cult of Ray may be hard to find, and I also list it up there with SMYT as "very hard to get into". Pistolero and Dog in The Sand are the best catholic cd's in my opinion. Pistolero is more Pixies rocking and DITS is the best of the pedal steel guitar era.


"Our Love is Rice and Beans and Horses Lard"
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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <

Poland
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Posted - 09/08/2004 :  13:32:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
SMYT very hard to get into!? yeah right!

i myself find cult of ray, catholic's s/t and pistolero the worst. i don't dislike them... but you know, as a fan i have to admit these aren't why i like frank black (and his merry catholics). DITS and beyond is great though.
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Jose Jones
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
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Posted - 09/08/2004 :  20:52:45  Show Profile  Visit Jose Jones's Homepage  Reply with Quote
DITS is on it's own plain. just put on headphones and crank it up real loud and listen to "the swimmer". then remember that this stuff was recorded live. gorgeous.

SMYT was instantly awesome for me and then kept getting better and better. it took me a while to get into COR, but when i finally came around it became one of my favorites. same with Oddballs.

-dan
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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~

Belize
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Posted - 09/08/2004 :  20:57:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you guys so much... all I need is a little disposable income... :) I feel like a teenager saving my lunch money to buy tapes!
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n/a
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Posted - 09/11/2004 :  19:13:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
awww, I held out on the cult of ray for ages, I wanted the two CD one and scoured and scoured, then went into a music shop called the cavern in llandudno not long after I started uni and found it, £15 quid though, that totally bit


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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
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Posted - 09/11/2004 :  22:24:26  Show Profile  Visit VoVat's Homepage  Click to see VoVat's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
For one CD? Isn't that, like, more than $20 American?



Brick is red, and Hitler's dead. Hang me!
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Monsieur
* Dog in the Sand *

France
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Posted - 09/12/2004 :  02:05:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I was a teenager (14) when I heard TOTY - they were playing Headache all the time on the radio and I liked the song very much. After listening for the first time, it was like when you're hungry and then you have this very tasty meal so you eat too much and then you ruin your stomach.

Then I started repeating always the same songs: Thalassocracy, Headache, Speedy Marie, Pie in the sky - before listening the others. Intellectually, I have never been less underestimated than by this music. It was so intelligent, so surprising, so beautiful. When I remember my teenage years I remember TOTY.


I will show you fear in a handful of dust
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Posted - 09/12/2004 :  03:55:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think it is, and it was two CD's vovat, TWO!!!


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whoreatthedoor
> Teenager of the Year <

Spain
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Posted - 09/12/2004 :  04:14:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ShakeyShake

Yah,great album,it took me a few listens to get into the first few songs,including abstract plain,which I now adore.I fucking love Freedom Rock,the intro,well...rocks.


How can you free me!!!!!! I'm free!!!!
Sing it while driving really fast in your car (Of course below your country legal limits). Amazing.


"¿Qué estás buscando? ¿Te gustaría multiplicarte por diez, por cien?, ¿Estás buscando adeptos? ¡Busca ceros entonces!"
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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <

Poland
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Posted - 09/12/2004 :  04:25:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i think i'm the only one, but i don't really like freedom rock THAT much. the intro riff is awesome, but as with a lot songs on that record, it has two parts to it. i just don't like the other part to it in this case.
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Posted - 09/12/2004 :  04:47:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I just played my CD and it's SKIPPING.

SOB


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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~

Belize
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Posted - 09/12/2004 :  09:55:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I listened to it again on Friday... and will prob. listen to it again to day. It is so good!
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remig
* Dog in the Sand *

France
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Posted - 09/12/2004 :  10:18:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I can sing the whole album, and whistle every guitar solo.

i've been listening almost everyday in 1994 and now once a month
That's the Cd that really made me fan of Rock music
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
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Posted - 09/12/2004 :  15:14:59  Show Profile  Visit VoVat's Homepage  Click to see VoVat's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
I think it is, and it was two CD's vovat, TWO!!!


Oh, right. I missed that part. What's on the second CD?

quote:
I can sing the whole album, and whistle every guitar solo.


Lucky bastard. I can't whistle at all.



Brick is red, and Hitler's dead. Hang me!
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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <

Poland
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Posted - 09/15/2004 :  09:55:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
£15 is probably closer to $30
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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~

Belize
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Posted - 09/15/2004 :  17:18:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've listened to it 3X's now and it keeps getting more awesome.
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
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Posted - 09/15/2004 :  18:34:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I listen to it every day. I have to.


I still believe in the excellent joy of the Frank
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two reelers
* Dog in the Sand *

Austria
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Posted - 09/16/2004 :  00:11:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Daisy Girl

Wow ... I feel lame for taking so long to catch on!
So is SMYT the next best place to listen. Is TOTY Franks masterpiece? Wow...that was the best new music I have listened to in ages! (New Pixies excluded).



Kathleen, now go to the shop and get the orange album. steal it, if you don't have the money right now. it's worth the risk. listen to los angeles, ten percenter, two spaces, tossed, don't ya rile 'em,...just listen to the whole album ten times in a row. after that you'll be convinced that this is frank's masterpiece...then listen to TOTY again. especially to two reelers. than again you'll say, hold on, TOTY is a few millimeters ahead of the orange/yellow album. and there you'll have a struggle that'll never end !

I joined the cult of this mouse / and now I occidentally tic-tac
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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <

Poland
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Posted - 09/16/2004 :  03:26:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Daisy Girl

I already have the orange/yellow album...



I joined the Cult of Pi / Because it's cool
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Posted - 09/16/2004 :  04:35:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Vovat..
CD two:
1. Village Of The Sun
2. Baby, That's Art
3. Everybody Got The Beat
4. Can I Get A Witness

Not a whole lot for the extra wedge but I'm pedantic about these things


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two reelers
* Dog in the Sand *

Austria
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Posted - 09/16/2004 :  04:44:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Tre


1. Village Of The Sun




good to be remembered of that...that's one of the best tunes frank has ever written, i think. and it is hidden on this not so well known CD..

heck, the whole Cult of ray record is a bit underrated. the marsist and the title song are ingenious, and all the little short punky songs are very strong, too. and i like the attitude of the whole album - "i want to be alone, i want to be inside my headphones, ..into a state of my own"
the two instrumentals are very nice, too. they show how fine lyle workman fitted. and the whole sound of the album, so clear and fresh.

COR is not his best, but it also not the to-be-forgotten album, as many say.

I joined the cult of this mouse / and now I occidentally tic-tac
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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~

Belize
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Posted - 09/16/2004 :  11:55:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by two reelers

quote:
Originally posted by Daisy Girl

Wow ... I feel lame for taking so long to catch on!
So is SMYT the next best place to listen. Is TOTY Franks masterpiece? Wow...that was the best new music I have listened to in ages! (New Pixies excluded).



Kathleen, now go to the shop and get the orange album. steal it, if you don't have the money right now. it's worth the risk. listen to los angeles, ten percenter, two spaces, tossed, don't ya rile 'em,...just listen to the whole album ten times in a row. after that you'll be convinced that this is frank's masterpiece...then listen to TOTY again. especially to two reelers. than again you'll say, hold on, TOTY is a few millimeters ahead of the orange/yellow album. and there you'll have a struggle that'll never end !

I joined the cult of this mouse / and now I occidentally tic-tac



I dunno... I really like the orange/yellow album alot. It's amazing. I think it is great but for some reason it always reminds me of the Pixies breaking up... TOTY doesn't have that emotional baggage associated with it. But thanks for the advise two reelers!
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
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Posted - 09/16/2004 :  16:09:43  Show Profile  Visit VoVat's Homepage  Click to see VoVat's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
I listen to it every day. I have to.


Did you swear an oath to the Teenager Gods?

quote:
Kathleen, now go to the shop and get the orange album. steal it, if you don't have the money right now.


Come now! Is that really behavior that we want to support? Stealing is wrong! You should know better, Mr. Reelers!



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two reelers
* Dog in the Sand *

Austria
1036 Posts

Posted - 09/17/2004 :  00:54:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by VoVat


quote:
Kathleen, now go to the shop and get the orange album. steal it, if you don't have the money right now.


Come now! Is that really behavior that we want to support? Stealing is wrong! You should know better, Mr. Reelers!






ya, i know - and i can tell you, so it ended, the two reeler short - cause you cannot do what you can't.

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