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NimrodsSon
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1938 Posts

Posted - 08/14/2004 :  08:12:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well, I've decided to teach myself French. Who knows how long it will take, as I am not self-disciplined at all; but I figure I might as well try. Anyways, I know there is a large French population on this forum, most of whom speak (or at least write) excellent English. Maybe we could set up a FrankBlack.net French Club to aid me (and anyone else interested) in my studies. This could possibly include some of our French friends posting a weekly vocabulary list, pronounciation guides, etc. And maybe we could do tests where we have to make a post in French using the vocabulary we have learned. Is anyone up to this?


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The Holiday Son
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France
2010 Posts

Posted - 08/14/2004 :  08:24:03  Show Profile  Visit The Holiday Son's Homepage  Reply with Quote
yep, why not?
a pronounciation guide would be quite tough to set though...
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Ebb Vicious
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1162 Posts

Posted - 08/14/2004 :  09:23:48  Show Profile  Visit Ebb Vicious's Homepage  Reply with Quote
just speak like you are trying to blow your nose on whomever you are speaking to, then your french will sound authentic.
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LUTINS
- FB Fan -

France
182 Posts

Posted - 08/15/2004 :  05:08:37  Show Profile  Click to see LUTINS's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Good choice and good luck NimrodsSon !
Bon choix et bonne chance Nimrods fils !

i will try to help you if you want.
j'essayerai de t'aider si tu veux.



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NimrodsSon
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1938 Posts

Posted - 08/15/2004 :  11:36:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sounds great! I know a few phrases so far (merci, s'il vous plait, bonjour, bon soir, bonne nuit, au revoir, excusez-moi) and I also know the personal pronouns, definite and indefinite articles, and several words. And I pretty much don't know any grammar.

I guess the best place to start would be French greetings, as I don't know any, except of course bonjour, etc.


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slaveish
= Cult of Ray =

USA
269 Posts

Posted - 08/15/2004 :  12:07:35  Show Profile  Visit slaveish's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I'd love to participate too. I've been studying since 7th grade, but you know how it goes- if you're not immersed in it, it's hard to become fluent. One of the radio stations here airs French radio at night- I've been listening to that. It's quite difficult to understand what they're saying.

Also, I agree- the French formum members have excellent English skills.
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NimrodsSon
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1938 Posts

Posted - 08/15/2004 :  12:10:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Excellent! The more, the merrier.


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The Holiday Son
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France
2010 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2004 :  04:00:42  Show Profile  Visit The Holiday Son's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi : Salut (Salut also means Bye Bye (Au revoir))
Welcome : Bienvenue
How are you ? : ça va ?

Remember that "a" in french is pronounced like in "Pat" !
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Frog in the Sand
-+ Le premiere frog +-

France
2715 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2004 :  04:49:50  Show Profile  Visit Frog in the Sand's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Lesson #2

Frank Black: Franck Noir
Pixies: lutins or farfadets
The Holiday Son: le fils des vacances
Frog in the Sand: grenouille dans le sable
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KingOfSiam
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USA
460 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2004 :  07:37:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
J'aime fromage!!
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =

Canada
11687 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2004 :  09:09:58  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Je m'appelle Vic St. Cool.


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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Iceland
8201 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2004 :  11:04:54  Show Profile  Visit Cheeseman1000's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by KingOfSiam

J'aime fromage!!

Cheers man, I like you too.


Kind regards,
Dr. Simon
Specialist In Broken Hearts
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GypsyDeath
Zapped Profile

3575 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2004 :  12:02:15  Show Profile  Visit GypsyDeath's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I wanna learn french too!


I drink and smoke
Until I choke
Until I'm broke
Cos' I want too

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NimrodsSon
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1938 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2004 :  12:53:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Salut et bienvenue!



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remig
* Dog in the Sand *

France
1734 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2004 :  13:27:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
To eat: manger (manjé)
To drink: boire (bware)
To sleep: dormir (dormir)

that's all you need to know!

To pronounce the R: like in spanish, but more with the throat than the teeth

Edited by - remig on 08/16/2004 13:32:41
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Monsieur
* Dog in the Sand *

France
1688 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2004 :  13:29:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Voulez vos coucher avec moi, ce soir?


I will show you fear in a handful of dust
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NimrodsSon
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1938 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2004 :  13:34:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Dormir is the same as Spanish, so that will be easy to remember.

It's going to take me a good while to learn the French verb conjugations--Christ! English must be hard to learn, as there really are no set forms for conjugating verbs.


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remig
* Dog in the Sand *

France
1734 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2004 :  13:43:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
ahaha monsieur a fait une faute!
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LUTINS
- FB Fan -

France
182 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2004 :  17:25:10  Show Profile  Click to see LUTINS's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
"Paris ne s'est pas fait en un jour"(proverb), alors courage!

je dors, tu dors, il/elle dort, nous dormons, vous dormez, ils/elles dorment

Le dormeur doit se réveiller.(imaginary expression)



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Hanoi333
- FB Fan -

Netherlands
70 Posts

Posted - 08/17/2004 :  07:58:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Salut tout le monde ici!

Je voudrais améliorer mon francais.
Voulez-vous écricre quelque chose en francais.
Maintenant j'essaye d'écrire en francais. (quelle combination est la cedille??)
Je suis aussi en train d'apprendre Vietnammienne.
Jài eu deja environs de 40 heures des courses Vietnamniennes.

a bientot
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NimrodsSon
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1938 Posts

Posted - 08/17/2004 :  13:24:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What is the difference between the verbs tenir and avoir? Or can they be used interchangeably?


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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Canada
6556 Posts

Posted - 08/17/2004 :  13:30:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by remig

ahaha monsieur a fait une faute!



heehee, he did too.


Here's a song I remember from french class,

Bonhomme, bonhomme sais-tu jouer?(bis)
Sais-tu jouer de ce violon là?
Zing,zing, zing de ce violon là.
BONHOMME!
Tu n'es pas maître dans ta maison quand nous y sommes.
Bonhomme, bonhomme sais-tu jouer? (bis Sais-tu jouer de cette flûte là? (bis)
Flûte,flûte, flûte de cette flûte là.
Zing, zing, zing de ce violon là.
BONHOMME!
Tu n'es pas maître dans ta maison quand nous y sommes.
Bonhomme, bonhomme sais-tu jouer? (bis)
Sais-tu jouer de ce tambour là? (bis)
Boum, boum, boum de ce tambour là.
Flûte,flûte, flûte de cette flûte là.
Zing, zing, zing de ce violon là.
BONHOMME!
Tu n'es pas maître dans ta maison quand nous y sommes.
Bonhomme, bonhomme sais-tu jouer?(bis)
Sais-tu jouer de ce piano là? (bis)
Piane, piane, piane de ce piano là.
Boum, boum, boum de ce tambour là.
Flûte,flûte, flûte de cette flûte là.
Zing, zing, zing de ce violon là.
BONHOMME!
Tu n'es pas maître dans ta maison quand nous y sommes

Man I hate that song!
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The Holiday Son
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France
2010 Posts

Posted - 08/17/2004 :  13:39:44  Show Profile  Visit The Holiday Son's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Tenir = to hold
Avoir = to have
So they're quite different !

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Never heard of the bonhomme song !!
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NimrodsSon
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1938 Posts

Posted - 08/17/2004 :  13:42:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Merci.




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apl4eris
~ Abstract Brain ~

USA
4800 Posts

Posted - 08/17/2004 :  16:41:22  Show Profile  Visit apl4eris's Homepage  Reply with Quote
"L.H.O.O.Q." But say it quickly! (and with passion)


("Elle a chaud au cul.")


The government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.
George Washington
Article 11, Treaty of Tripoli, 1796
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Hanoi333
- FB Fan -

Netherlands
70 Posts

Posted - 08/18/2004 :  02:21:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I also never heard of the bonhomme song.
I remember

un, deux, trois, la politique est á moi,..
..........., jouez, jouez musiscien....

actually don't know it anymore so well. Still remember the melody.

and of course one line in the French Anthem

"Allons enfants de la patrie, contre nous de la Tirannie!"

By the way I feel a little jalous of those bilangual countries such as Canada and Belgium. Especially when I am around Brussels, people over there can easily switch from French to Nederlands, to German and some English as well. Highly annoying when you are stottering your school-learned French sentences. Anyway.

Continuez avec le francais!
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Frog in the Sand
-+ Le premiere frog +-

France
2715 Posts

Posted - 08/18/2004 :  02:34:41  Show Profile  Visit Frog in the Sand's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Carolynanna
Here's a song I remember from french class,

Bonhomme, bonhomme sais-tu jouer?(bis)
Sais-tu jouer de ce violon là?
Zing,zing, zing de ce violon là.
BONHOMME!
Tu n'es pas maître dans ta maison quand nous y sommes.
Bonhomme, bonhomme sais-tu jouer? (bis Sais-tu jouer de cette flûte là? (bis)
Flûte,flûte, flûte de cette flûte là.
Zing, zing, zing de ce violon là.
BONHOMME!
Tu n'es pas maître dans ta maison quand nous y sommes.
Bonhomme, bonhomme sais-tu jouer? (bis)
Sais-tu jouer de ce tambour là? (bis)
Boum, boum, boum de ce tambour là.
Flûte,flûte, flûte de cette flûte là.
Zing, zing, zing de ce violon là.
BONHOMME!
Tu n'es pas maître dans ta maison quand nous y sommes.
Bonhomme, bonhomme sais-tu jouer?(bis)
Sais-tu jouer de ce piano là? (bis)
Piane, piane, piane de ce piano là.
Boum, boum, boum de ce tambour là.
Flûte,flûte, flûte de cette flûte là.
Zing, zing, zing de ce violon là.
BONHOMME!
Tu n'es pas maître dans ta maison quand nous y sommes



I never heard this song. Strange, strange, strange.

Hanoi - Ç: Alt 128 - ç: Alt 135


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Edited by - Frog in the Sand on 08/18/2004 02:35:28
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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Canada
6556 Posts

Posted - 08/18/2004 :  07:01:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Bonhomme is a Quebec thing I think....
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pfeffa
= Cult of Ray =

Aruba
367 Posts

Posted - 08/18/2004 :  07:07:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I met a man
He was a bonhomme
Sailing and shoring
Dancing the beta cam dance

ha ha ha
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NimrodsSon
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1938 Posts

Posted - 08/18/2004 :  13:34:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What is the difference (and how is each used if there is a difference) between the words dans and en?


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LUTINS
- FB Fan -

France
182 Posts

Posted - 08/19/2004 :  12:46:15  Show Profile  Click to see LUTINS's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
EN : marque(mark) -le lieu(the place) ex: en France
-le temps(time) ex: en été(in summer)
-l'état(condition) ex: en bonne santé(in good health)
-la manière(manner)
-la matière(matter) ex: en bois(wood)

DANS : marque -le lieu où l'on est, où l'on entre(the place where "somebody" is from, where "somebody" enter)
ex:être dans sa chambre(to be in his bedroom)
ex:monter dans le train(to get in a train)
-le temps ex:dans sa jeunesse, il était timide(in his youth, he was timid)
-l'état : NEVER
-la manière ex: travailler dans la finance(to work in the finance)
-la matière : NEVER


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Hanoi333
- FB Fan -

Netherlands
70 Posts

Posted - 08/31/2004 :  06:34:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Pourquoi, Il n`y a plus de personnes ici qui veulent ecrire en francais?
Peut-etre les americains ici ont "give up" deja! Est-ce qu`Ils n`osent plus?

what is "to give up" in french?
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jediroller
* Dog in the Sand *

France
1718 Posts

Posted - 08/31/2004 :  07:29:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
"To give up" = "renoncer".

I can speak French (obviously) but there's no way in the world I could ever teach it. I don't understand half of what LUTINS explained above. And I could never have come up with the half I understand.

--
Who, me? Oh man, was that out loud?
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miss imac
- FB Fan -

France
6 Posts

Posted - 09/01/2004 :  05:23:48  Show Profile  Visit miss imac's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Bonjour ,
Je suis webmastrice d'un site sur un auteur compositeur interprète : Daniel Lévi
Je ne parle pas très bien anglais, mais je le comprend relativement bien ..
Si je peux vous aider à vous familiariser avec la langue francaise, ce serait avec plaisir .. :-)
Amitiés ,
Miss iMac.
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whoreatthedoor
> Teenager of the Year <

Spain
2873 Posts

Posted - 09/01/2004 :  06:13:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A hint: French is very similar to catalan in some ways. So all you have to do is learning catalan.


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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Niue
7443 Posts

Posted - 09/01/2004 :  06:21:59  Show Profile  Visit vilainde's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Today's lesson:
Spam: Spam

Practice: make a proper sentence addressed to miss_imac using what you learned today...


Denis
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