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Adam
= Cult of Ray =

USA
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Posted - 08/04/2004 :  10:39:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What kind of music does he do? I found a couple of LP's at a local record shop, didn't know if I should get'em or not.

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Posted - 08/04/2004 :  10:53:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
BUY THEM!

actually.... which ones? the later albums he sounds all like he's been drinking nothing but whiskey and raw eggs all his life, I know it's a popularist choice but I can't get over how amazing mule variations is...

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ProverbialCereal
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USA
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Posted - 08/04/2004 :  11:02:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
He is one of those artists you really just have to hear. You can describe his music to an extent but until you hear some of his albums, you aren't seeing the full picture.

Mule Variations was my first album.


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Little Black Francis
> Teenager of the Year <

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Posted - 08/04/2004 :  11:03:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
He does the intro and outro for Natural Born Killers, produced by T. Reznor.


I like how his music has changed. I like versatility in great musicians.


Watch the movie Down By Law, Tom's in it.

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Adam
= Cult of Ray =

USA
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Posted - 08/04/2004 :  11:13:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think Mule Varations is one I saw, although not sure. Thanks none the less.

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betty
= Cult of Ray =

USA
258 Posts

Posted - 08/04/2004 :  17:36:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i think this is as valid a platform as any to make a stink about musicians only seen as a lucerative commodity if they are 20. from an industry perspective.

what a load. mule variations illustrates beautifully that an artist who doesn't suck never stops.

time and wisdom, dig it.

and buy it, tw is sublime. so is sublime, i like them too.



love,

betty

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NimrodsSon
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
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Posted - 08/04/2004 :  18:57:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Definitely buy them! It's impossible to put into words how good Tom Waits is. As for what kind of music he does, most of his pre-'80s lp's can be described as pretty straight-forward sleezy, night club jazz, with a lot of songs about beer and hookers. The year 1983 marked a major turning point in his career with the album Swordfishtrombones, which was the first album produced by Tom Waits (a HUGE difference from his other albums produced by Bones Howe). There's really no way to describe his music after this, except that it is very eccentric and probably unlike anything you've ever heard. His woice is one of, if not the, most gravelly, raspy voices I've ever heard and it really does justice to his style of music and is one of the main characteristics that easily distinguishes his music from that of other artists. All that being said, you may not like his music upon first listen, but just like Frank Black, if you give it time and repeated listens I guaruntee you won't be disapointed (and if you are, I'll be happy to take those LP's off your hands, as I only have three of his albums on vinyl).


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Frog in the Sand
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France
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Posted - 08/05/2004 :  04:25:31  Show Profile  Visit Frog in the Sand's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Swordfishtrombones, Rain Dogs and Mule Variations are simply masterpieces.


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Monsieur
* Dog in the Sand *

France
1688 Posts

Posted - 08/05/2004 :  23:39:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Warning : in Mule Variations, there is the scariest song I've ever heard, "What's he building". Each time I hear it, I think of Marc Dutroux, the Belgian paedophile.
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Newo
~ Abstract Brain ~

Spain
2674 Posts

Posted - 08/06/2004 :  03:41:33  Show Profile  Click to see Newo's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Don´t forget Frank´s Wild Years.

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Adam
= Cult of Ray =

USA
505 Posts

Posted - 08/06/2004 :  08:01:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
OK, I can get copies of Raindogs and Closing Time. Any input into which one to start with?

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NimrodsSon
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
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Posted - 08/06/2004 :  08:41:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'd start with Closing Time simply because it's his first album, but it is his most simple jazz album with almost a country-western feel to some of the songs and before he had a raspy voice, so although I love the album you may not like that kind of music. Rain Dogs is probably considered by most (not me) to be his best album so you may want to start with that one. So you'll get mixed responses, but I say Closing Time.


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Adam
= Cult of Ray =

USA
505 Posts

Posted - 08/06/2004 :  08:54:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Would the song Closing Time be the original that was recenlty (few yrs ago) covered by semisonic?

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KimStanleyRobinson
* Dog in the Sand *

1972 Posts

Posted - 08/06/2004 :  09:38:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Listen to Captain Beefheart too.

By the time you've familiarized yourself with Beefheart and Waits, you'll never want to hear 'normal' music again...well, you will, but you'll have a whole new appreciation for it...similar to having an appreciation for a language you don't understand.

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Adam
= Cult of Ray =

USA
505 Posts

Posted - 08/06/2004 :  10:10:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I really don't have an appreciation for new music, anyway.

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NimrodsSon
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1938 Posts

Posted - 08/06/2004 :  10:47:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Adam

Would the song Closing Time be the original that was recenlty (few yrs ago) covered by semisonic?

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NOOOOOOO!!!!!! not at all. Tom Wait's song Closing Time is an instrumental


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Adam
= Cult of Ray =

USA
505 Posts

Posted - 08/09/2004 :  07:32:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Picked up Rain Dogs over the weekend. It is wonderful. It's the kind on music I've always wanted to listen to but didn't know where to get it. I'm gonna have to go back and get Closing Time.

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frank_black_francis
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
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Posted - 08/09/2004 :  08:22:36  Show Profile  Visit frank_black_francis's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Ive always liked Small Change....its nice to see someone else mention Captain Beefheart besides me.
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Posted - 08/09/2004 :  10:15:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I used to work with a surgeon that would operate with captain beefheart turned up top volume.

dude.

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NimrodsSon
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1938 Posts

Posted - 08/09/2004 :  12:05:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Adam

Picked up Rain Dogs over the weekend. It is wonderful. It's the kind on music I've always wanted to listen to but didn't know where to get it. I'm gonna have to go back and get Closing Time.

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That's exactly what I thought the first time I heard Tom Waits! If you love Rain Dogs, be sure to check out Swordfishtrombones, Frank's Wild Years, Bone Machine, The Black Rider (I've actually never heard this album so I don't know what it sounds like), Mule Variations, and Blood Money.


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paintmeister
= Cult of Ray =

USA
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Posted - 08/09/2004 :  22:37:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by frank_black_francis

Ive always liked Small Change....its nice to see someone else mention Captain Beefheart besides me.



I just placed an order for Trout Mask Replica. This will be my first exposure to Beefheart.

I have four Waits albums(Raindogs, Bone Machine, Swordfish) and I tend to listen to Small Change more than the others lately.


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Newo
~ Abstract Brain ~

Spain
2674 Posts

Posted - 08/10/2004 :  06:57:31  Show Profile  Click to see Newo's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
My intro to Waits (that´s what they call him here, makes him sound more composerish) was Black Rider, still my favourite.

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Posted - 08/10/2004 :  11:48:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
How exciting is this tour news though... I'm excited, see how I bounce! up and down with excitement! wheeeee

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Adam
= Cult of Ray =

USA
505 Posts

Posted - 08/11/2004 :  05:50:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I picked up Closing Time last night. It seemed more mellow than Rain Dogs. I will have to give it a few more listens. So far, I am liking RDs better.

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NimrodsSon
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1938 Posts

Posted - 08/11/2004 :  12:06:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yeah, they're completely different styles of music, so you really shouldn't try to compare them but like (or not like) each one for what it is.


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Newo
~ Abstract Brain ~

Spain
2674 Posts

Posted - 08/12/2004 :  11:38:57  Show Profile  Click to see Newo's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Holy crap Waits tours again! Woop!

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Posted - 08/12/2004 :  12:07:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I know I know I know I know, I check for details before I go to work and as soon as I get in from work

This is going to rule

I don't mean to sound bitter, cold, or cruel, but I am, so that's how it comes out.

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Newo
~ Abstract Brain ~

Spain
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Posted - 08/16/2004 :  13:14:20  Show Profile  Click to see Newo's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Hope he plays Barcelona. If he does I'd imagine it'd be in Palau de la Musica, 5 mins from my place, tremendous place to see a show.

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Posted - 08/16/2004 :  13:27:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
clapping my hands and jumping up and down

the uk gig'll prolly be london but I think I can brave london again for that!

I don't mean to sound bitter, cold, or cruel, but I am, so that's how it comes out.

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NimrodsSon
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1938 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2004 :  13:28:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Damn you Europeans! You get all the good concerts!


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JamesM
= Cult of Ray =

308 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2004 :  14:59:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Adam -

Tom Waits wrote Downtown Train, which you would probably recognize as a Rod Stewart hit.

Give you one guess as to which version is superior.

-Jimmy M.
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Adam
= Cult of Ray =

USA
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Posted - 08/17/2004 :  05:54:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yeah, I figured that one out when I listened to Rain Dogs. TW's version is quite good. Then again, the original is usually the best.

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