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 Posted - 07/27/2004 : 13:24:00
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and everyone knows the drug companies are bad, I included? Why do you think I work as a temp in a hospital rather than a company like GSK where my degree would be used and I would be paid a fuck of a lot more than I'm getting? Because the companies are soulsuckingevilsonsofbitches but name me one major company without skeletons in it's closet I'll give you a hundred who are evil and tell you why.
Drug dependency isn't a given, not a bit, sometimes drugs act as a jump board to a better (maybe a drug free) life, are you telling me also you don't take a paracetamol when you have a headache?
I don't think you can be so dismissive, I think for some people the other ways don't work
sorry.... rant rant rant
Frank Black ate my Hamster
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chickenwithtwoheads
= Cult of Ray =
Netherlands
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Posted - 07/27/2004 : 13:25:29
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Originally posted by floop
by the way, what does your new signature mean?
I was wondering that too... 
What does it mean, Andy?
I'm bored with the valleys and bored by the peaks. So I bought a ticket to the Pixies |
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <
South Sandwich Islands
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ramona
"FB Quote Mistress"
USA
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Posted - 07/27/2004 : 13:49:44
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Well, coming from a family that has a lot of mental illness which was very much helped by drugs (and not HOOKED on them like some back alley drug addicts), I am firmly on the other side of that.
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You`re where you want to be, I`m where I want to be
Caught up chasing everything I`ve ever wanted
I replace you easily, replace pathetically,
I flirt with any flighty thing that falls my way.
But how I needed you, when I needed you.
Let`s not forget we are so strong, so bloody strong.
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TarTar
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 07/27/2004 : 14:11:47
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Same here, Ramona. Drugs can help. But they can hurt, too. I hated being on drugs in my teens. Ritalin, Silert, Zoloft, Depacote, Luvox, Prozac, between 14 and 18 on was on all of those. Maybe even more.
I think being on so many different drugs really stunted my mental growth. I couldn't find my place for so long and didn't really start noticing things that most others do until so much later. I was really out of it because of those drugs, a totally warped sense of reality. Not like trippy and out there, just detached.
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
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Posted - 07/27/2004 : 14:39:43
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I've known one or two people who've been depressed, even manic depressive and it seems like drugs do the trick where self-control or whatever can't.
Kind regards,
Dr. Simon
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
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Posted - 07/27/2004 : 14:57:26
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Originally posted by BLT
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Originally posted by ramona
So, you don't believe in a chemical imbalance, BLT?
No I don't.
do you believe in mental illness?
ist es möglich für ein quesadilla skrotum zu lecken? beim sprechen der quesadillas von LBF, ja. ja in der tatheheheheheheehehee! |
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <
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Posted - 07/27/2004 : 15:57:12
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Originally posted by floop
do you believe in mental illness?
I'm not sure what the definition of "illness" is these days. I'm certain there are people who are in need of help, I just don't believe that chemicals are a valid way to help mental problems. Therapy should address the issue on a spiritual level. And no, I'm not a Christian. On the other hand, if you consider that a human being is nothing more than a walking bag of chemicals, then maybe the modern Western approach is really for you.
Speaking of mental health... does anyone else find these articles disturbing? It's the most "1984-ish" thing I've seen so far:
http://bmj.bmjjournals.com/cgi/content/full/328/7454/1458
http://www.illinoisleader.com/news/newsview.asp?c=17748 |
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Little Black Francis
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Posted - 07/27/2004 : 16:10:53
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I'm sorry if this seems abrasive... but,
Look, I'm not being railroaded into taking the meds. For fucks sake, okay?
It's my fucking choice. I don't want to end up in a fucking mental ward, unaware of my own being, senile etc.
Okay? So I am taking the drugs.
The Specialist I see is one of the best. I'll give you his fucking email if you want to ask him, I'm sure he'd take time out of his life to answer you fucking dispute....
ah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Please, can we fucking agree to disagree at least.
I am fucked in the head. My brain is broken. If I don't do something to fix it, e.g. take meds, I'll end up in a fucking insitution and no one, including me, will ever see me again, because my creative soul will have vanished.
I shall end up the walking dead if I don't treat this.
I am taking the baby steps. I am willing. I'll swallow the fucking pill. This new drug is supossed to balance my brain waves.
Think of a normal, balance sine wave, okay. The crests and the furrows are evenly balanced. That's a "normal" person. I am abnormal. My crests are so fucking high, and my furrows almost brush against the gates of hell and fire and brimstone....
I want to save myself from going insane.
And I'm fucking scared.
Fuck it.
I am too tired to finish this post. I'll delete it or edit it later...
I'm going to go play my music and then knock the shit out of a golf ball. Okay with you? And before I go to bed tonight, at midnight here EST in the USA, I'll be swallowing a little fucking pill. And I will see what it does.
When I was 17 I got railroaded by my parents to take Resperdol (sp) and Depakote (sp) and I have never been more miserable in my life. It won't happen again.
No one is forcing me to do this. I motherfucking cocksucking TRUST this Doctor, okay?
Fuck the rest of it, you all fucking debate it all you want.
I just want to hang on to the last little shred of sanity I still have. Okay with you?
Sorr-the-fuck-ry if it supporting some fucking evil empire...
I just don't want to hurt like this anymore
Can't you just fucking understand that motherfucker?
I'm so happy that you dpon't fucking have the problems I ahve.... good for you... take that shit and run with it and I hope thaqt it works well for you
I wish the best, for all of you
I'm fucking out
Oh yeah, one last thing. I was adopted in 1976... no medical records worth a shit, they didn't know what they were doing in the 70's, doctors, social workers etc. So I have no idea about my genetic history. Apparently there is a crazy gene in me somewhere. I'm just trying to fix it.
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(Pause, deep breath, calm down)
See you later I hope
Peace
Love
Grow a fucking flower
Andy
lbf
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And Floop, I'll tell you later. You and your fucking online bullshit translators can't figure it out for you? See I actually use books. I have nevber and never will use one of those stupid online translator thingy-ma-bob-s not my style.... I do it the old fashioned way... I guess that's why I have a BA in Classics, aye?
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shineoftheever
> Teenager of the Year <
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Posted - 07/27/2004 : 16:16:31
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Take care LBF!
 "Too cool for Cults" |
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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~
Belize
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Posted - 07/27/2004 : 23:51:46
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| I think its hard when people without certain health issues judge what the person with the health issue should do. For example, I dated a guy that was anti-medicine of any kind except bee pollen. This guy thought that could cure everything. Well he kept harping and harping for me to go off my medicine for a health condition... he even hid my medicine and yelled at me for taking it. Anyway after awhile I quit taking it becasue I was too dumb to break up with him and so sick of him nagging me all the time... so what did I do?? I ended being so sick I ended up in the hospital. I think it is one of those things that it's easy to judge but impossible to understand until you walk those shoes. LBF...that is cool that you have a great doctor and you have so much trust for him/her. I know this is a hard time, but I am glad you found a solution that works for you! |
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ivandivel
= Cult of Ray =
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Posted - 07/28/2004 : 02:34:04
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There is a lot to be said abouth the pharmacy-industry, but I hardly think this is the right thread.
I think it is very, very important that you - if you're up to it - 1) try to get some information about what would be considered good treatment, and 2) see to it that you get it.
If it's too much right now, maybe some in your family might take a look at it. There are websites with recomendations from people with your diagnose and there are offical guidelines which contain lots of usefull information. For instance, make sure that the one in charge of your treatment formulates a treatment plan for you, and hopefully that he/she includes you when they make it.
Many people find the right use of medication to be usefull, and some people don't. If you get medication - make sure that your condition is regurlarly checked - especially when you just have started on or have changed medication.
Find a good psychotherapist. This could be your psychiatrist or physician, but it doesn't have to be. There may be some issues you've got that may contribute to the moodswings (hey - issues are chemicals too), and there may be something to learn about how to deal with moodswings. What's a good psychotherapist? Someone you can work with, not necessarily someone you like.
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mun chien andalusia
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Posted - 07/28/2004 : 06:53:49
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you can't just say yes or no to medication. it's true that lately doctors (see prozac abuse for example) tend to prescribe drugs with extreme ease but sometimes it's inevitable. the most important thing of all is an accurate diagnosis. drugs are not a definitive solution but can help a lot. and there's nothing wrong with taking them, those who call "crazy" and "nuts" people on medication are simply ignorant fucks.
 join the cult of errol\and you can have a beer\without having to quit smoking
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
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Posted - 07/28/2004 : 07:11:17
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Originally posted by Daisy Girl
I think its hard when people without certain health issues judge what the person with the health issue should do. For example, I dated a guy that was anti-medicine of any kind except bee pollen. This guy thought that could cure everything. Well he kept harping and harping for me to go off my medicine for a health condition... he even hid my medicine and yelled at me for taking it. Anyway after awhile I quit taking it becasue I was too dumb to break up with him and so sick of him nagging me all the time... so what did I do?? I ended being so sick I ended up in the hospital. I think it is one of those things that it's easy to judge but impossible to understand until you walk those shoes. LBF...that is cool that you have a great doctor and you have so much trust for him/her. I know this is a hard time, but I am glad you found a solution that works for you!
you weren't really sick though. it was all in your mind :)
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apl4eris
~ Abstract Brain ~
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Posted - 07/28/2004 : 09:04:01
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| Hello LBF. Best wishes to you (I'm sending good thoughts your way). |
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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~
Belize
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Posted - 07/28/2004 : 13:09:47
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you weren't really sick though. it was all in your mind :)
ist es möglich für ein quesadilla skrotum zu lecken? beim sprechen der quesadillas von LBF, ja. ja in der tatheheheheheheehehee!
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yeah... I didn't mix enough bee pollen with enough taro root, spirulina and tibetan yak milk cheese curds. If I would have done that it would have been ok. you live and learn. |
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Stuart
- The Clopser -
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Posted - 07/28/2004 : 18:00:59
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Man this place is full of freaks!
I used to be on prozac as a kid and still have slight problems with mood swings, and depression.... although I am certainly more in control of it than when I was a teenager. I think everyone to a certain extent is fucked up, some just can control it more than others.
Just the good ole boys, never meaning no harm,
that all you ever saw
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Bi-polar disorder =) =( ????
