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benji
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Posted - 07/21/2004 :  03:54:43  Show Profile  Visit benji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I was curious about people’s opinions on perving.
Not gross perving, but merely appreciating attractive women……specifically with people in relationships…

Do you talk with your other half about hot girls that you see walking down the street etc?

I’m wondering cause my wife and I always talk about hotties with big tits and stuff that we see while we’re wandering around and we even have a code developed so people won’t realise what we’re talking about…..

Is this usual, or am I just lucky to have a pervert for a wife?

And single girls – how would you feel if your man started talking to you about the tits on the girl who just walked past you as you’re walking down the street hand in hand?


Obviously this can apply equally as well to males, but we don’t do that as much, hence why I used females as my example….



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TarTar
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Posted - 07/21/2004 :  04:20:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
When I was with my last girlfriend, she had a good idea of what kind of girls I was going to check out, so she'd always look at my face to see me checking them out. Then she'd say, often with a tone of humor and a slight 'you bastard' tone, "I saw that. You totally checked her out." It was funny.

I really really really like women; the way they look, the way they sound, the way they move, the way they smell, the way they think. I just wish more of them liked me.

I am quite a pervert. I think about sex a lot. I don't get it very often. I have no macking skills. I feel like it's disrespectful to women to put the moves on them, I feel like they're wiser than me and will call me out on my bullshit. It's weird. I wish I had some game cuz I would like to experience that whole world of sleeping with lots of awesome, intelligent, hot (in many different and weird ways) women.

Do I look like a beautiful blonde with big tits and an ass that tastes like French vanilla ice cream?

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cvanepps
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Posted - 07/21/2004 :  05:00:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Then why are you trying to fuck me?

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loudlarf
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Posted - 07/21/2004 :  05:27:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think all men look at women - its not perving if all of us do it is it? When the missus catches me doing it I just tell her I'm making sure she's still the most attractive woman alive. She then gives me her best 'Yeah - right' look and points out all the nice men around. When I agree that they do look quite hot she gets quite uppity. Not sure why......
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Surfer Rosa
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Posted - 07/21/2004 :  05:56:25  Show Profile  Visit Surfer Rosa's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thought I'd add a female perspective to this - though probably not your average one.

Some of the work I handle is of an adult nature shall we say (cheap bad porn!) - so I've seen my fair share of naked female flesh. It also now means that I spend as much of my time checking women out as what I do men and also land up having to point out good boobs/nice ass/great legs to whoever happens to be close by man or woman alike. This does mean that I am sometimes looked at as if I am some kind of sexual predator, but hey if you're so damn stuck up to not appreciate something aesthetically pleasing, then thats your damn problem - lifes too short for apologies for other peoples hang ups.

I also suspect that far more women spend their time checking out other women than they let on - shall we call it assessing the competition. I think if more women realised that men just love the fact that they are women (complete with boobs and all those other fun bits) they'd maybe lighten up a bit.
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GypsyDeath
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Posted - 07/21/2004 :  06:58:08  Show Profile  Visit GypsyDeath's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I dont mind it when im in a relationship if my man looks at other women in the street. HOWEVER - make a comment about an attractive friend, mutual acquaintance, girl he works with any one who he has the opportunity of speaking to, that is another story. Another story entirely.

I always check out good looking guys in the street and stuff, and have been known to do so quite obviously, and even mildly flirt....admittedly, this only is the case when im in a bad mood with my partner at the time, or he has done something of the same vain...or if i feel hes forgetting just how goddam lucky he is to be wih me and i could leave him for another guy at any minute! haha. Gotta keep em on their toes.

But as surfer rosa was saying, I think I probably spend about 60% of my day checking out other women. More so than i do guys. Much more in fact.

Just thought I'd throw that in there...
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Ebb Vicious
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Posted - 07/21/2004 :  07:26:39  Show Profile  Visit Ebb Vicious's Homepage  Reply with Quote

it's funny when i was younger i used to think guys who would have a detectable reaction to attractive women were pathetic.

but as i get older (and supposedly past my peak libido, yeah right) i can't fucking help it. if a girl is hot enough when i'm driving by in my car it's like a rock just hit me in the face. it physically hurts. like waving a ruben in front of a starving man.
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GypsyDeath
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Posted - 07/21/2004 :  07:29:49  Show Profile  Visit GypsyDeath's Homepage  Reply with Quote
OHHHH! that why guys who drive by give me a look of agony!!

Just thought I'd throw that in there...
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Daisy Girl
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Posted - 07/21/2004 :  07:54:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I don't think that's perving... I think perving is continuing to harass someone after they say back off. Actually, I think some women would like it being checked out by you and your girlfriend and some wouldn't. I actually like it when people are checking me out... sometimes people will say stuff like nice ass... I always say thank you...I tell my husband about it and we laugh.

Also, I think that's cool that you and your girlfriend are that close. I tend to laugh when my husband is oogling other women..men are wired that way and can't help it...but I think a lot of women get bent out of shape too, so consider your self a lucky man.
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Homers_pet_monkey
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Posted - 07/21/2004 :  12:04:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I hate it when people make it obvious. If I look at a girl then I do so discreetly, with a bit of tact. If I am in a relationship then it rarely happens at all. I guess if I was in a really long relationship, then this may change after a while, I dunno.

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TarTar
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Posted - 07/21/2004 :  12:10:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm perving on this thread, with all the girls talking about this subject. We can always rely on GypsyDeath to say some things. And thanks to Daisy Girl and surfer rosa for adding some nice words, too. Don't worry, I'm behaving myself... to an extent.

Do I look like a beautiful blonde with big tits and an ass that tastes like French vanilla ice cream?
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TarTar
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Posted - 07/21/2004 :  12:23:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote


Do I look like a beautiful blonde with big tits and an ass that tastes like French vanilla ice cream?
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Ebb Vicious
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Posted - 07/21/2004 :  12:27:29  Show Profile  Visit Ebb Vicious's Homepage  Reply with Quote
TarTar NOT COOL! i browse this forum from work! not cool at all.
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TarTar
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Posted - 07/21/2004 :  12:44:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That ain't porn. That's art. I suppoes that might be difficult to explain to the big wigs, but regardless.

And anyways, do your damn work, quit shitting around online.

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Homers_pet_monkey
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Posted - 07/21/2004 :  13:17:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Couldn't you have found a woman who shaves?

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El Barto
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Posted - 07/21/2004 :  14:14:44  Show Profile  Visit El Barto's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Posting nude photos is against forum rules.

I very much appreciate the female form. Beautiful women do things to my brain. They make me crazy. I always pointed out hot girls to my ex and that probably wasn't very cool/mature of me. I think my problem, though, is that when I see a hot girl, I instantly think "I wonder what she looks like naked...I'd love to fuck her." I chalk that up to overactive hormones and way too much porn/masturbation.


I guess I just wasn't made for these times.
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TarTar
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Posted - 07/21/2004 :  14:37:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Too much porn and masturbation can really mess up your sense of sexual reality.

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Daisy Girl
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Posted - 07/21/2004 :  15:31:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Do you think any of it has to do with age?? I think guys hit their peak around 18 and then mellow out from there... I mean...I think guys always check women out...but it seems like as you get older instead of thinking about sex 90% of the time your thinking about it 70-80% of the time. :)
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Bartholomew
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Posted - 07/22/2004 :  06:52:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Daisy Girl

Do you think any of it has to do with age?? I think guys hit their peak around 18 and then mellow out from there... I mean...I think guys always check women out...but it seems like as you get older instead of thinking about sex 90% of the time your thinking about it 70-80% of the time. :)



I'm here to break it to you, DaisyGirl (and just so you fully understand our dilemma, seeing your name makes me wonder what you look like, it also reminds me of Daisy Duke and of those shorts that leave the ass hanging out) that it has nothing, or at least, very little to do with age. I'm 28 and am married. And no I do not think about women constantly, in fact I rarely think of them at all, that is until I see them and then Holy God! I fall in love six times a day to six different women. Actually I think it only gets worse as you get older, as least if you are in a long-term relationship. I've been in one for ten years, ten long years. And while I love my married life, love my wife, can totally see cheating if I was seduced properly. You know if in the wrong place and the wrong mood at the right time. The curse of the penis looms large.
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Surfer Rosa
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Posted - 07/22/2004 :  07:12:49  Show Profile  Visit Surfer Rosa's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Bartholomew

quote:
Originally posted by Daisy Girl

Do you think any of it has to do with age?? I think guys hit their peak around 18 and then mellow out from there... I mean...I think guys always check women out...but it seems like as you get older instead of thinking about sex 90% of the time your thinking about it 70-80% of the time. :)



I'm here to break it to you, DaisyGirl (and just so you fully understand our dilemma, seeing your name makes me wonder what you look like, it also reminds me of Daisy Duke and of those shorts that leave the ass hanging out) that it has nothing, or at least, very little to do with age. I'm 28 and am married. And no I do not think about women constantly, in fact I rarely think of them at all, that is until I see them and then Holy God! I fall in love six times a day to six different women. Actually I think it only gets worse as you get older, as least if you are in a long-term relationship. I've been in one for ten years, ten long years. And while I love my married life, love my wife, can totally see cheating if I was seduced properly. You know if in the wrong place and the wrong mood at the right time. The curse of the penis looms large.



Honey that works both ways - I'm married to the most wonderful man and wouldn't change it for the world - but I suspect I'd be hard pressed to say no - call it what you will, but maybe men and women aren't as different as we all think?
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Bartholomew
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Posted - 07/22/2004 :  07:25:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Surfer Rosa

quote:
Originally posted by Bartholomew

quote:
Originally posted by Daisy Girl

Do you think any of it has to do with age?? I think guys hit their peak around 18 and then mellow out from there... I mean...I think guys always check women out...but it seems like as you get older instead of thinking about sex 90% of the time your thinking about it 70-80% of the time. :)



I'm here to break it to you, DaisyGirl (and just so you fully understand our dilemma, seeing your name makes me wonder what you look like, it also reminds me of Daisy Duke and of those shorts that leave the ass hanging out) that it has nothing, or at least, very little to do with age. I'm 28 and am married. And no I do not think about women constantly, in fact I rarely think of them at all, that is until I see them and then Holy God! I fall in love six times a day to six different women. Actually I think it only gets worse as you get older, as least if you are in a long-term relationship. I've been in one for ten years, ten long years. And while I love my married life, love my wife, can totally see cheating if I was seduced properly. You know if in the wrong place and the wrong mood at the right time. The curse of the penis looms large.



Honey that works both ways - I'm married to the most wonderful man and wouldn't change it for the world - but I suspect I'd be hard pressed to say no - call it what you will, but maybe men and women aren't as different as we all think?



Just hearing you say that turns me on. ;)
Sorry, but hey we're being honest here, right.
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GypsyDeath
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Posted - 07/22/2004 :  07:32:34  Show Profile  Visit GypsyDeath's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Mike - I know what you mean.

For instance, I am currently sitting in my college computer room. Theres not very many people in here, say around 10/12.
I always sit right at the back of the room in the corner. There were two of the computer guys chatting a moment ago, near the front. I dont know what about ( listening to SMYT) but they kept looking over at me.
Then as they walked out one of them smiled, licked his lips, and winked at me., Then continued out of the door, looking back at me, and to my ammusement almost walked in to the door frame.
As I write this, they have re entered, and hes still staring at me. Creep.
He is a part of the college staff, and ive just noticed HAS A WEDDING RING ON.

Was considering making a complaint, as fair enough in the street, but in college i expect to be at least a little free from being ogled at. Especially from staff. But then whats the point? Im wearing a low cut top, obviously im asking for it.

Of course, it is flattering when a guy is attracted to you. BUT there are much more subtle ways of doing it. Unfortunately that seems to be beyond most guys. The non sleazy, non creepy, non drooling, admiring look up and down, is fine, im fine with that. But there are limits. Like obviously staring at my tits. Obviously trying to look up my skirt. Obviously trying to grope me. Whistling and comments are NOT needed. They make the guy look like a moron, and make me feel like a fucking (sorry to be cliche) piece of meat. Thats NOT appreiciating me, thats being a fucking cock (pun intended).

I think the nicest way to show your 'appreiciation' is eye contact, and a smile,. not a sleazy smile, just a smile. guys that do that will always have my respect. Obviously in clubs/pubs/gigs environment its a different story..

Just thought I'd throw that in there...
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Posted - 07/22/2004 :  07:34:09  Show Profile  Visit GypsyDeath's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Tar Tar - yeah, im sort of at college, fortunately im not in the library today, but that would not be cool if I was. Also, did anyone else think there was gonna be a huge naked picture of a woman when they read the title of this? I was dubious about opening it at first!

Just thought I'd throw that in there...
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Posted - 07/22/2004 :  07:35:05  Show Profile  Visit GypsyDeath's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by TarTar

We can always rely on GypsyDeath to say some things.



Im glad I havent dissapointed your expectations of me tar Tar!



Just thought I'd throw that in there...
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Ebb Vicious
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Posted - 07/22/2004 :  09:00:27  Show Profile  Visit Ebb Vicious's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Surfer Rosa

Honey that works both ways - I'm married to the most wonderful man and wouldn't change it for the world - but I suspect I'd be hard pressed to say no - call it what you will, but maybe men and women aren't as different as we all think?



as larry miller famously said:

the difference between the male and female sex drive is like the difference between shooting a bullet and throwing it.
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Jason
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Posted - 07/22/2004 :  09:09:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Bartholomew

Actually I think it only gets worse as you get older, as least if you are in a long-term relationship. I've been in one for ten years, ten long years. And while I love my married life, love my wife, can totally see cheating if I was seduced properly. You know if in the wrong place and the wrong mood at the right time. The curse of the penis looms large.



Cool post.

I think it also gets worse as you get older because you have more experience and have more ideas for all the things you can DO with & to that female form.

GypsyDeath's computer room post was really good, too. Observing the body language of attraction and flirtation is a huge interest of mine. I think I'm obsessed. I'm always watching couples or men and women flirting, with the intent of spotting the body language subtleties happening between them. The point is to be better at recognizing when a woman is attracted to me ("the sign of her love behavior", baby) and also to avoid communicating the creepy vibes that GypsyDeath describes. Men and women have some unique behaviors they do when faced with someone they like sexually. And these are totally compulsive body language things (meaning we do them without thinking about it). One thing men and women have in common is licking their lips (as they look at the one they're attracted to), I've noticed. And it's not always this sultry act. Sometimes it's very mundane and easy to miss.
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Surfer Rosa
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Posted - 07/22/2004 :  10:22:33  Show Profile  Visit Surfer Rosa's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ebb Vicious

quote:
Originally posted by Surfer Rosa

Honey that works both ways - I'm married to the most wonderful man and wouldn't change it for the world - but I suspect I'd be hard pressed to say no - call it what you will, but maybe men and women aren't as different as we all think?



as larry miller famously said:

the difference between the male and female sex drive is like the difference between shooting a bullet and throwing it.



Maybe you've just been unlucky? ;-) Maybe I've been looking at too many naked ladies!
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Homers_pet_monkey
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Posted - 07/22/2004 :  10:59:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jason
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The point is to be better at recognizing when a woman is attracted to me


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Homers_pet_monkey
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quote:
Originally posted by Surfer Rosa

quote:
Originally posted by Bartholomew

quote:
Originally posted by Daisy Girl

Do you think any of it has to do with age?? I think guys hit their peak around 18 and then mellow out from there... I mean...I think guys always check women out...but it seems like as you get older instead of thinking about sex 90% of the time your thinking about it 70-80% of the time. :)



I'm here to break it to you, DaisyGirl (and just so you fully understand our dilemma, seeing your name makes me wonder what you look like, it also reminds me of Daisy Duke and of those shorts that leave the ass hanging out) that it has nothing, or at least, very little to do with age. I'm 28 and am married. And no I do not think about women constantly, in fact I rarely think of them at all, that is until I see them and then Holy God! I fall in love six times a day to six different women. Actually I think it only gets worse as you get older, as least if you are in a long-term relationship. I've been in one for ten years, ten long years. And while I love my married life, love my wife, can totally see cheating if I was seduced properly. You know if in the wrong place and the wrong mood at the right time. The curse of the penis looms large.



Honey that works both ways - I'm married to the most wonderful man and wouldn't change it for the world - but I suspect I'd be hard pressed to say no - call it what you will, but maybe men and women aren't as different as we all think?



Hello there, I don't believe we've met!

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Posted - 07/22/2004 :  11:49:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by GypsyDeath

I think the nicest way to show your 'appreiciation' is eye contact, and a smile,. not a sleazy smile, just a smile. guys that do that will always have my respect.

I agree. I really like when I'm passing a hot girl and we both smile at each other. It's a subtle smile, and even though I'll probably never see the girl again, it was still an enjoyable 3 seconds.

Sometimes eye contact and smiling can say alot more than words.


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Homers_pet_monkey
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Posted - 07/22/2004 :  12:17:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yeah I love that too. Though I do sometimes wonder what might have been. Well actually I ALWAYS wonder what might have been, and then curse myself.

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Posted - 07/22/2004 :  12:33:40  Show Profile  Visit GypsyDeath's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The best thing to d is if you make eye contact with someone in the street, and are attracted to them, count to 5, and turn around. if they are looking at you then they you will be 'in there' as they say.
Regarding the body lanuage thing - if a girl shows the inside of her wrists, touches the back of her neck, shes usually attracted to whomever shes talking to.

Just thought I'd throw that in there...
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Posted - 07/22/2004 :  12:36:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What if she has an itchy wrist or a sore neck?

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Posted - 07/22/2004 :  12:38:50  Show Profile  Visit GypsyDeath's Homepage  Reply with Quote
erm...ask her? Are you flirting, or do you have an itchy wrist?

Just thought I'd throw that in there...
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quote:
Originally posted by ProverbialCereal

Sometimes eye contact and smiling can say alot more than words.


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what about held eye contact and scowling, I do a damned good line in that, like at school when you'd kick a guy in the ankles if you fancied him, and you knew you had a chance if he pulled your hair back...

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Posted - 07/22/2004 :  12:47:13  Show Profile  Visit GypsyDeath's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I have to be very careful about about how I look at people. My eyes can be incredibly intense, and a lot of people find it difficult holding eye contact. alot of people would say i was incredibly intimidating due to my eyes. I can make people feel however I want by just one look. which is pretty cool, but for about two years, i went around with sunglasses on!

Ive got it a bit more undercontrol now though, and can sort of mute it, if you like.

I have to say trre, the guys i fancied at school, id sort of flirt with...call me insane! haha.

Just thought I'd throw that in there...
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