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The Champ
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
736 Posts

Posted - 07/25/2004 :  08:53:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Directly from moveon.org:

We all remember the election of 2000. Because of faulty and mismanaged election systems, George W. Bush won Florida's electoral votes and the presidency. And now look at the mess we're in.

That hasn't been proven, right?
In fact i thought studies have shown that bush would have won anyway.
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
9168 Posts

Posted - 07/25/2004 :  12:00:10  Show Profile  Visit VoVat's Homepage  Click to see VoVat's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
It hasn't been conclusively proven either way, as far as I know. Regardless of who would have won, though, I think we can all agree that the whole thing was a suspicious mess.



Cattle in Korea / They can really moo.
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Jefery With One F
- FB Fan -

Canada
184 Posts

Posted - 07/25/2004 :  12:30:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Studies have shown "conclusively" that Bush won in Florida, just as studies have shown "conclusively" that Gore won. If you make a claim either way, you're just quoting statistics to make your point, ignoring opposing statistics that are just as readily available.

With that said, I think that the best way to decide if things worked out as they should have is to look at the reaction from the people of Florida in the next major election.

The way I see it, if the people of Florida truly felt cheated, they wouldn't have voted to re-elect Governor Jeb Bush in 2002 by a 13% margin...or voted for Katherine Harris' successor as Attorney General by the same margin they elected Harris in the previous election...or voted to put Katherine Harris in the U.S. House of Representatives.

Vote Bush in 2004
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Iceland
8201 Posts

Posted - 07/25/2004 :  13:43:19  Show Profile  Visit Cheeseman1000's Homepage  Reply with Quote
(To drag this wildly off-topic (hence parentheses): Leah, are you seeing Tanya on Wednesday? Benji and I will be there, let us know...)


Kind regards,
Dr. Simon
Specialist In Broken Hearts
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glacial906
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1738 Posts

Posted - 07/25/2004 :  16:17:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Champ

Haha, Yes and what i find funny was that i knew that and only wrote that for the one moment of severe irritation you would have gotten from reading my post.



Yeah...haha...that's funny. Of course you knew! Otherwise, why else would you have had to explain it to us? After all, making others think you're a moron drives them absolutely insane with rage.

Damn, Chump, you get the last laugh every time, don't you..?

Take me, break me, tell me a good one and maybe I'll cry


Edited by - glacial906 on 07/25/2004 16:19:02
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The Champ
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
736 Posts

Posted - 07/25/2004 :  16:57:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ahh, thanks for proving my point, hahahahah man thats priceless
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glacial906
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1738 Posts

Posted - 07/25/2004 :  17:10:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Champ, I'm going to pretend I've never had the misfortune of meeting you, because sarcasm is no fun when the person you're mocking is too much of a fucking moron to know the difference.

Edited by - glacial906 on 07/25/2004 17:12:29
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The Champ
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
736 Posts

Posted - 07/25/2004 :  17:30:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hahah, calm down purple face
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glacial906
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1738 Posts

Posted - 07/25/2004 :  17:54:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Heh heh, you're retarted, dickhead.
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Jefery With One F
- FB Fan -

Canada
184 Posts

Posted - 07/25/2004 :  19:54:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Champ, with all due respect, please stop arguing for our side.

Vote Bush in 2004
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The Champ
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
736 Posts

Posted - 07/25/2004 :  20:09:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hey Glacial, remember, level headed responces plz, its very important.
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glacial906
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1738 Posts

Posted - 07/25/2004 :  21:06:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Champ, you are so cute. You want to be my bitch and raise children together?
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
5454 Posts

Posted - 07/25/2004 :  22:58:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by glacial906

Champ, I'm going to pretend I've never had the misfortune of meeting you, because sarcasm is no fun when the person you're mocking is too much of a fucking moron to know the difference.



Toss him a shiny object and then tip-toe away.
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The Champ
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
736 Posts

Posted - 07/26/2004 :  06:56:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Glacial, boy, you sure are the useless hyporcite i had u pegged for. Thats awsome keep up the good work u faggit :) by the way next time try not to blow your short fuse it would have worked out better for you.
Can we move on now?
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GypsyDeath
Zapped Profile

3575 Posts

Posted - 07/26/2004 :  07:37:45  Show Profile  Visit GypsyDeath's Homepage  Reply with Quote
GRRGGGGHH, I truied, i tried to restrain myself, but I can NOT.

I was bought up in a very homosexual world. My mum is gay, and she and her long term partner bought me up for the majority of my life.

In relation to all of my friends lifes, mine was much more settled, much more open, hardly any arguements, I had and have a much better idea of the world, and was obviously much more open minded. I have a much higher social awareness than any of my friends. I generally had a much happier and healthier childhood. I had a childhood where no conversation was uncomfortable to talk about, nothing was a taboo, and i discussed everything with my mothers.

Im nto saying gay parents are better parents. What I am saying is why THE FUCK WOULD IT MAKE A DIFFERENCE?

Just thought I'd throw that in there...
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GypsyDeath
Zapped Profile

3575 Posts

Posted - 07/26/2004 :  07:38:35  Show Profile  Visit GypsyDeath's Homepage  Reply with Quote
NEWS FLASH: Homosexuals are Human Beings, NOT Aliens

Just thought I'd throw that in there...
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The Champ
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
736 Posts

Posted - 07/26/2004 :  07:42:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Why would you restrain yourself, thats exactly what i want to hear, comments and facts. So you say you had a much happier child hood, what are you compairing that too? Straight families?
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GypsyDeath
Zapped Profile

3575 Posts

Posted - 07/26/2004 :  07:45:26  Show Profile  Visit GypsyDeath's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yes, Im comparing it to a variety of my friends upbringing, mostly all 2.4 families.

I tried to restrain my self because the arguements got a little heated last time this topic was raised

Just thought I'd throw that in there...
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Monsieur
* Dog in the Sand *

France
1688 Posts

Posted - 07/26/2004 :  08:21:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The Champ: I know I'm French and shouldn't say this, but your spelling is really hopeless. I mean, if you hit the keyboard randomly, you would probably get better results.
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GypsyDeath
Zapped Profile

3575 Posts

Posted - 07/26/2004 :  08:26:56  Show Profile  Visit GypsyDeath's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yeah, do it like i do champ, hit it randomly!


My new friends they dont belong here,
My old friends, they didnt want to stay
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The Champ
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
736 Posts

Posted - 07/26/2004 :  08:59:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Will do, just so long as i get my point across.
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GypsyDeath
Zapped Profile

3575 Posts

Posted - 07/26/2004 :  09:00:41  Show Profile  Visit GypsyDeath's Homepage  Reply with Quote
well, hey, its workign for me thus far.


I drink and smoke
Until I choke
Until I'm broke
Cos' I want too
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glacial906
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1738 Posts

Posted - 07/26/2004 :  10:02:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Champ

Glacial, boy, you sure are the useless hyporcite i had u pegged for. Thats awsome keep up the good work u faggit :) by the way next time try not to blow your short fuse it would have worked out better for you.
Can we move on now?



We can move on when you admit that you were molested by your preacher, and have severe moral and psychological repurcussions as a result of it.
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shineoftheever
> Teenager of the Year <

Canada
4307 Posts

Posted - 07/26/2004 :  14:43:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by darwin

quote:
Originally posted by shineoftheever
Darwin Darwin, Darwin...

When getting into an heated arguement it is important to be both gramattically correct and to spell things well. everyone knows dichodomy has an "aitch" in it. also, ...many kids would be lucky to have either parent or any parents. and, why did you precede argument with "logically" it should just be "logical", is that logical?


"Too cool for Cults"



Shiney,
Thank you for all of your advice and thank you for teaching me a new word, gramattically. I bet you have to be careful to not include it in letters to your grandma.



ah, touche! grandma would not like that. btw, original post was all sarcastic, no personal attack intended (not unlike the speeling and gramar errars).


"Too cool for Cults"
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The Champ
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
736 Posts

Posted - 07/26/2004 :  15:17:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
We can move on when you admit that you were molested by your preacher, and have severe moral and psychological repurcussions as a result of it.
-Glacial

The twisted warped mind of Glacial strikes again.
You really dug deep into your subconscious to come up with that statement eh?, maybe you should write a book.
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El Barto
= Song DB Master =

USA
4020 Posts

Posted - 07/26/2004 :  16:42:18  Show Profile  Visit El Barto's Homepage  Reply with Quote
If you guys don't have anything constructive to add to the subject, stop posting and take it to private email.


I guess I just wasn't made for these times.
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
9168 Posts

Posted - 07/28/2004 :  18:40:01  Show Profile  Visit VoVat's Homepage  Click to see VoVat's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Yes, Im comparing it to a variety of my friends upbringing, mostly all 2.4 families.


To be fair, if I had to raise two-fifths of a child, I'd be pretty messed up too.

quote:
We can move on when you admit that you were molested by your preacher, and have severe moral and psychological repurcussions as a result of it.


At least the preacher bought him a soda first.

On a more serious note, I have to agree with this:

quote:
Im nto saying gay parents are better parents. What I am saying is why THE FUCK WOULD IT MAKE A DIFFERENCE?




Cattle in Korea / They can really moo.
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