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realmeanmotorscutor
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
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 Posted - 05/22/2004 : 07:48:36
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It has been four years in the most gorgeous area of the country and I have wasted my time. I feel like I've done nothing; I have no pictures and few friends. It's weird, I'm making more friends now that I'm leaving than I did in four years. Is anyone else graduating?
I'm not attending graduation; I'm not very comfortable with that b/s sense of pride. It's not really an accomplishment, plus I hate long ceremonies. Everyone is telling me that I'm going to regret it but I don't think so. I don't really need a sense of closure like some people do. My teacher told me that he didn't go b/c he was "too cool." That's not my thinking at all but I think people think I feel that way. The only thing I'll miss (it can't really be called a regret as I realize I'll miss it) is having everyone in one place at the same time to say goodbye to.
Though I haven't done much, these have been the best and most enriching years of my life. I wish some of you could tell me it will continue to be as great but I'm sure you won't. Life is what you make of it - that I believe, but I'll never get these years back and I will truly miss them.
Anyway, I'm just being sentimental. I know a couple of people here are graduating; what are your thoughts whether college or high school?
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Broken Face
-= Forum Pistolero =-
USA
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Posted - 05/22/2004 : 07:56:42
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i just graduated college a few weeks ago - i did walk graduation, mainly because it was such a big deal to my father and it was pretty boring. and in my uptight nerd school i was one of only 3 people wearing jeans under my gown, and the only wearing sneakers (converse all stars). i did it just for my parents pretty much - they paid for the bulk of my college, i can give them 2 hours of my time in a stupid hat
as for leaving this area called pittsburgh, i have really mixed feelings. there really isn't all that much this city has to offer me, 'cept my friends who i've made over the last 4 years, which makes it hard to leave. but, through the magic of the internet and frequent flyer miles, i hope to keep in touch. and as long as that happens, then fare thee well p-burgh.
-brian
 - "I joined the Cult of Frank / And they tried to cut off my nuts and make me put on a blue jumpsuit"
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realmeanmotorscutor
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
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Posted - 05/22/2004 : 08:05:14
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Yeah, my mother tried guilting me into walking. She has breast cancer and said all she wants before she dies is to see me walk. I didn't budge. Haha, what an ass huh? Well, I knew in elementary school that I wasn't going to walk and I cannot allow my mother to have that kind of control over me:) Plus she didn't pay for any of it so there's no obligation.
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
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Posted - 05/22/2004 : 08:22:30
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I finished last September, but my graduation ceremony is this July. I'm going cos I like dressing up, and I want to see some of my mates again.
I enjoyed uni, I moved to London for it from the sticks, and I've settled right into big city life. It was kind of weird finishing, because it meant I had to go and actually do something worthwhile. However, I've stayed in the Smoke, so it just seems like a continuation of my life.
My university experience wasn't the typical one, I don't think. My college was a specialist sound engineering school, and the students lived all over London, which is huge. Plus, it was quite a busy course, and everybody had different schedules due to limited practical assignment capabilities at the college. So I didn't really spend a huge amount of time socialising or whatever, I've actually done far more of that since finishing.
But there you go.
Congratulations to Brian, realmean, Simon Bumble, Adnan, and everybody else who's graduating/has graduated this year. Pat yourselves on the back.
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realmeanmotorscutor
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1764 Posts |
Posted - 05/22/2004 : 09:00:38
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Thanks Cheesman. I actually did the opposite and went from the city to the sticks. I love it here! Maybe I'll move here some day because it's just so calm and relaxed; then I might not miss my college days so much because I'll be in the area.
It feels so weird having no more academic responsibilities. Well, I will be teaching and I still need to make a syllabus so I suppose that's an academic responsibility.
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broken part
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Posted - 05/22/2004 : 10:07:28
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| I consider my uni years a bullshit experience. Met lots of people I couldn't stand. The grad ceremony I didn't attend despite my mother's protests. She was sayin that was all in the world she wanted to see. I told her to fuck off. On the day I wasn't even in the country. As far as enrichment goes it was purely academic and limited to the level that a degree can be. Being on my own and making an independent living is far more enriching. You learn from your mistakes and actions everyday. |
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
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Posted - 05/22/2004 : 10:11:44
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Really? I don't think I could be that mean to my ma, but then I'm such a nice young man.
I had a pretty good time @ uni all things considered, everybody I met was top class. I guess because it was a related subject, everybody was into music and stuff. There were some really cool people, so it was ok.
I'd have hated it if I didn't make any new friends though, so I can kind of sympathise.
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realmeanmotorscutor
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1764 Posts |
Posted - 05/22/2004 : 10:15:09
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haha, you told her to fuck off. that's priceless; it makes me look a little better too.
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Broken Face
-= Forum Pistolero =-
USA
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Posted - 05/22/2004 : 12:27:34
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thanks cheeseman - i'm gonna miss college, but onward and upward i suppose
-brian
- "I joined the Cult of Frank / And they tried to cut off my nuts and make me put on a blue jumpsuit"
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broken part
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Posted - 05/22/2004 : 18:46:53
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GypsyDeath
Zapped Profile
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Posted - 05/23/2004 : 09:31:31
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hey scutor, how old are you? I was under the impression you were about 35 or something?
I havent graduated yet. But Im gonna be distraught when I do. I was out of college for about a year - had to move and start again etc, and i had cravings for writing essays...The thing i like about education is almost instant gratification and awards for hard work...not quite like that in teh real world. (depending, of course).
Im (HOPEFULLY)going to be going to UNI in london. Which will be wierd - as thats where im from, and havent lived there for a LOOOONNNG time. back to my roots. heh.
sorry, that post was not really related, was it!
Congrats to everyone that has graduated though. Well Done.
I love you for what I am not,
I did not ask for what I have got.
You will get used to me.
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realmeanmotorscutor
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1764 Posts |
Posted - 05/23/2004 : 11:13:03
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broken, my mom is fine. If I really thought that that was her dying wish I would have gone but she was just trying to make me feel guilty :)
Gypsy, I'm 21. Why did you think I was 35? Good luck with school; it certainly is the place to be. Enjoy it!
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
8201 Posts |
Posted - 05/23/2004 : 14:51:46
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Realmean, you have that 'old man' vibe going on. Do you wear slippers and smoke a pipe?
Mel, where you going to Uni? London's probably a cool place to have the Uni experience - too bad I didn't! I love it as a place to live though, tis wicked.
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Adnan_le_Terrible
* Dog in the Sand *
France
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Posted - 05/23/2004 : 15:09:06
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I guess that it's not the graduation in itself that is frightening, but the fact that you'll spend the rest of your life working. I'm really afraid, I've been in education since I can remember, and now it's all over. It's also the end of the infinite possibilities you have when younger.
What especially freaks me out (is this english?) is the fact that my job - banking - won't be very creative...I don't care about hard work or working under pressure, but I would really like to have a creative job.
I'm not really afraid about losing my friends - they're all staying in Paris - but I probably won't have the time to see them very often.
I must say that I'm really afraid these days!
I keep feeling like people are just looking at screens and web sites all the time, but do they ever do anything? Or go out and say anything to anyone? I'm not so sure anymore.
PS: My graduation ceremony is in sept. and I will attend it mainly because of my parents. |
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realmeanmotorscutor
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1764 Posts |
Posted - 05/24/2004 : 12:54:02
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I agree Adnan. I think I'll have to go to grad school because I'll just miss it too much. I'm most afraid of having a boring job too. I like having to think and be creative. I refuse to go into retail.
is what English, Adnan?
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
8201 Posts |
Posted - 05/24/2004 : 13:28:41
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I had that dream that I would get a job vaguely related to what i wanted to do. Ho hum. I'm happy enough, I have a reasonable job and do my thang in the spare time.
Its not so bad, being worn down by the system.
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apl4eris
~ Abstract Brain ~
USA
4800 Posts |
Posted - 05/24/2004 : 14:30:57
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Cheeseman. He's a chip away boy...
If the only tool you have is an elbow macaroni,
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
8201 Posts |
Posted - 05/24/2004 : 14:34:44
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quote:
Originally posted by apl4eris
Cheeseman. He's a chip away boy...
If the only tool you have is an elbow macaroni,
all your problems look like Schroedinger's cat.
It goes nicely with the frontal lobotomy. Its not so bad................
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apl4eris
~ Abstract Brain ~
USA
4800 Posts |
Posted - 05/24/2004 : 14:37:18
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Crap, sorry for my silly post. That wasn't very relevant or funny.
Congrats on your graduation, all!
I miss college sometimes. But truly, it's not as good as real life, though it is more difficult to meet people of like mind. This is a crazy world, and everything is even more open to you than it is in school, and the job thing is flexible, as now people move from one career to another every 5-10 years. I went to college for art, got a job as a 3rd shift grocery stocker, then worked in an art framing shop, then another one in Chicago, then temped as an administrative assistant, then the same for another 2 companies, got into computers, really into computers, then I got a job with a software company, then a publishing company, then an insurance company working on the 46th floor of the Sears Tower, now I'm an artist.
Your dreams are still well within reach.
If the only tool you have is an elbow macaroni,
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
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Posted - 05/24/2004 : 14:44:52
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Even though I've only been away a little while, I'd still have to agree with apl, the 'real world' is better. I'm having so much more fun now, I feel more settled, I have money coming in (occasionally) and I'm enjoying myself.
Don't fret yourself about getting a job in something high and unattainable yet... if you work it'll come, but it might take a while. If you get an ordinary job, go for one you enjoy and where the other staff are cool - thats much more important than the job itself.
Its easy to get stressed about 'what do i do now?', but it'll resolve itself, so take it easy and enjoy yourself.
Maaaan.
"Everywhere I go I want to travel by X-Wing" |
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bedrock_barney
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
871 Posts |
Posted - 05/24/2004 : 14:56:47
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My advice would be not to take one's working life too seriously. I've met too many people who have totally immersed themselves in super long hours at work, got fat and unhealthy, missed the formative years of their kids lives and will probably reach retirement age ready to drop dead.
Get that balance right. I could earn lots more money in a big city somewhere but I choose not to.
 "I've rejoined the Cult of Ming / Star of favourite childhood movie of 1980" |
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realmeanmotorscutor
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1764 Posts |
Posted - 05/24/2004 : 17:43:04
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I'll definitely not take my job too seriously unless I'm writing. "Real life" might be ok but it cannot be anywhere near as carefree.
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faulkndj
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Posted - 05/24/2004 : 23:05:46
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| I just graduated a few weeks ago... As far as walking goes, who really cares. I went, but thats not important. WHAT IS IMPORTANT is how you end all of your relationships with your friends. Of course most people are not lucky enough to get to go to Daytona Beach with their entire class, and say your goodbyes all at once, but you should relish your friends from college and your experiences, because they will last, while high school is superficial bullshit. I guess what I'm trying to say is graduation is just a step, but you should cherish the time in college to help you along. Man, I sound like a Sad Sappy Sucker. (reference to modest mouse). |
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GypsyDeath
Zapped Profile
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Posted - 05/25/2004 : 04:05:30
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Scutor - I dont know, I really enjoy all your topics, as ive said before, and the tend to have a bit more depth than the average 21 year old!
Cheeseman. Im not sure, to be honest. Was thinking of London Metro, but, well, was reading The Guardian today, and they have a 'picking your uni' guide thing in it, and london met didnt really look that great. Guess ill have another look. Id love to go to uni in london though. I mean, id love to stay in Brighton, but the course type I want doesnt really happen in brighton...so off in to the big city again it is for me.
I love you for what I am not,
I did not ask for what I have got.
You will get used to me.
Welcome to your new joy. |
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realmeanmotorscutor
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1764 Posts |
Posted - 05/25/2004 : 05:58:26
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Gypsy, thanks a lot! I leave the dorm today so your compliment helped cheer me up a bit:)
faulkndj, I agree and thanks for being sappy cause I was sappy all last night over this. I feel like there are so many "minor characters" here that I'll never truly get to say good bye to because I really don't know them that well. I wish I got to know more of these people so; I bet most don't even know how much I've enjoyed knowing them, even if just in class.
Well, I'm going to go now before I depress myself.
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benji
> Teenager of the Year <
New Zealand
3426 Posts |
Posted - 05/25/2004 : 06:16:07
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Well i finished uni in July last year after being there for 7 years.
i loved every minute of it, even though right now it ain't doing anything for me.
It has depressed me for ages that for such a mindboggingly large city, London appears to have no opportunities for my line of expertise.
My graduation was in April, but i did not travel back to NZ for it - i had already attended graduation for my BSc, so there was little point. Though i thoroughly enjoyed the day even tho it was deathly boring.
I handed in my MSc, got married and moved from New Zealand to London all within 6 weeks.
now that i look back at it, i shouldn't have been in such a rush...
But i'm with scuter, i moved from the sticks to the city for uni then to mega-city to work, and all i wanna do is move back to the sticks.
counting down the years.....
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PsychicTwin
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1772 Posts |
Posted - 05/25/2004 : 06:40:03
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The system and the "real world" is what you make of it. I was pretty overwhelmed when I graduated college in 2002, wondering what the hell I was going to do and trying to make sense of it all. Right now, I'm temping as an administrative assistant at the Nat'l Park Service (the pay is very good) and I play music with my band in my spare time. I live with my girlfriend and I'm happier than I've ever been. Yes, happier than I even was in college. There is something to be said about finally making your own way...
Basically, if you resign yourself to "working for the rest of your life" (Adnan), then that's what you'll be limited to. I personally find great comfort in the fact that my 'occupation' is not what defines nor my raison d'etre for getting out of bed every day. I would be a miserable piece of shit if it was! Working allows me to have money, which in turn allows me to a) live in my own place (not with my parents!), b)pursue what I truly love, which is creating/playing music. It's a means to an end for me, but I guess i'm just not too "career-minded". Some people are, and if that is what really keeps you going, then just keep in mind that you'll have to start with a job that you feel is a little beneath you or kind of trivial, but hard work WILL and DOES pay off. I guarantee it.
I guess my point is whatever you decide to devote your life to (work, after all, is hours of your precious time on this earth), either have a passion on the side that you can cultivate (hobby, whatever) or focus your energies on just working in or around the field that is most interesting to you. Work to live, don't live to work! And no matter what, don't lose your zest and passion for life just because of the 'necessary evils' of the system. Instead, look at the "real world" as the ultimate environment for your growth as a person...there are countless possibilities, and the only limit you have is your own mind and your own physical capability. Don't give up on your dreams/passions just because 90% of the human population conforms to 'the man'! It don't have to be dat way, bruthas and sistas!
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
8201 Posts |
Posted - 05/25/2004 : 09:59:13
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Mel, there are some good courses here, even though it sucks. Look me up on MSN sometime, I'll point you in the right direction.
Smart though it is, the Guardian ain't always right 
Well said PT. I guess work is the reason I get out of bad that early, but not the reason I get out of bed, which is nice.
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GypsyDeath
Zapped Profile
3575 Posts |
Posted - 05/25/2004 : 16:39:38
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You changed you sig.
I DO look you up on MSN. And you ignore me . :'( ok, im kidding. But yeah, not been on recently as it just crashes my computer.
How DARE you say that the guardian could be wrong!!!!!!!!!!! Slander! Kill him for thee speak against Guardian!!!!!
Sorry to all yanks and everyone else who isnt from england, as they have no idea what were talking about
I love you for what I am not,
I did not ask for what I have got.
You will get used to me.
Welcome to your new joy. |
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Adnan_le_Terrible
* Dog in the Sand *
France
1973 Posts |
Posted - 06/02/2004 : 04:52:09
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Mel, if MSN crashes your computer, it's either a virus or you have to re-install MSN. It happened to me, and I reinstalled MSN and now it works. It works!
I keep feeling like people are just looking at screens and web sites all the time, but do they ever do anything? Or go out and say anything to anyone? I'm not so sure anymore. |
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Adnan_le_Terrible
* Dog in the Sand *
France
1973 Posts |
Posted - 06/02/2004 : 05:24:48
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I've been living in a small provincial town of France during my high school years - I was bored to death and depressed and thought I would go crazy. Really, it was horrible, and I cannot imagine myself outside a big city anymore. I guess this changes a lot once you have a family and everything, but I'm pretty hyperactive and I like the possibilities you have in a bigger city. And it's much easier to get a job...
Speaking of jobs, I picked up a very difficult career, so now I don't know if I'll be able to make it : 90 hours a week, no spare time at all, I won't even have enough time to sleep properly. I chose it because the money was good, and I wanted to be financially independent very quickly, so I'm the only one to blame. It is a very nice and very interesting job but the hours are really tough.
I've been working as an auditor for a year at a company that was affected by the collapse of Enron (easy to guess which one) - very bad memories from there. My boss there was really an asshole, everybody was freaked out because the company was about to fail, you could smell the stress in the air. And my boss was really an asshole. On sunday evenings, I was feeling like a samurai before the hara kiri. When I finished my internship, I didn't want to go and say goodbye to her, I just went away. I guess this explains why I'm so afraid of the professional life now.
I keep feeling like people are just looking at screens and web sites all the time, but do they ever do anything? Or go out and say anything to anyone? I'm not so sure anymore. |
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
8201 Posts |
Posted - 07/10/2004 : 02:14:28
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It's Graduation season in the UK now - I just had my ceremony yesterday. It was actually good fun, although I didn't take it particularly seriously. As I mentioned at the top of the thread, I finished back in September, so I hadn't seen some of my friends from the course since then... It was really good to catch up with the guys, there was a lot of, 'what are you doing now then?' going around.
Seems like a good number have got decent work in the sound engineering field, so I'm really happy for them - I couldn't be bothered with that now.
I think because its so long ago, none of us was taking the ceremony particularly seriously, so we had fun. Its OK, its something to say that you've done, your Ma will have a pretty picture on the wall, etc.
Have all you guys graduated here? I think in the UK, results only came out a week or two ago... If you passed the course (which is the important thing obviously) congratulations to you all: Go Class of 2004. Or something.
Whether you do the crazy ceremony or not, well done to everyone and I hope stuff all works out in the future for you guys.
Kind regards,
Dr. Simon
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offerw
* Dog in the Sand *
South Africa
1264 Posts |
Posted - 07/10/2004 : 02:24:32
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Congratulations Simon.
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
8201 Posts |
Posted - 07/10/2004 : 02:32:23
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Thank you kind sir.
Kind regards,
Dr. Simon
Specialist In Broken Hearts |
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Posted - 07/10/2004 : 04:18:49
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congrats indeed, i remember when I graduated I did not want to do it but i did it for the folks, the hottest day of the year in a fuck off cap and gown with one of those cape thingies (bronze it was) cotton dress and fishnets.... it was torture, the ceromony was twice as long as your average ceremony because it was done in welsh and english, but it was perversley fun, I wa so proud of my graduating friends (not that I had many but I cheered like a bitch for them - was a bit embarassed when they returned the favour though - big loud welsh men) My mother loved it, didn't lose the smile from her face all day... and I got to get totally shit faced.... free drink in the SU after.... bucks fizz a go go, finished the evening off wrestling with the welshies down by the habour... aaah happy days
oh I miss it... ( )
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Homers_pet_monkey
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 07/11/2004 : 03:30:48
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Yeah congratulations to all who passed, and commiserations to all those that did not.
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