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leamanc
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Posted - 05/15/2004 :  11:20:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My 1988 vinyl of Surfer Rosa (4AD/Rough Trade) says Gigantic was written by Mrs. John Murphy and Black Francis.

My 1992 CD of Surfer Rosa (4AD/Elektra) gives sole credit to Mrs. John Murphy.

A case of revisionist history? Or just a typo on the later release? Does anybody have the recent 4AD reissue, and how is the song credited on there?

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Posted - 05/15/2004 :  12:52:34  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
well, according to BMI (which makes it legit I think)
it is Kimberly Deal and Charles Micheal Kittridge Thompson III



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VoVat
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Posted - 05/15/2004 :  14:40:26  Show Profile  Visit VoVat's Homepage  Click to see VoVat's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Did Frank write the music and Kim the words? I seem to recall Frank saying something about having come up with the chord progression, anyway.



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rockmusic84
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Posted - 05/15/2004 :  19:27:05  Show Profile  Visit rockmusic84's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Wow, I wasn't aware that on earlier versions it was credited to them both. I have the '92 Elektra pressing, and it says "All selections written by Black Francis EXCEPT "Gigantic", written by Mrs. John Murphy.". On "Death to The Pixies", it says " "Gigantic" by Black Francis and Kim Deal". So who knows. I read that Kim wrote the lyrics after seeing a movie where a white woman has an affair and falls in love with a younger black man. So she definitely wrote the words. As far as the music, who knows? It's quite possible Frank wrote it (he even plays the solo in the middle!!). But then again, Kim's bass is the main instrument in the song. So, maybe they collaborated...? But anyway, it's a great song, no matter who wrote it.

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Posted - 05/16/2004 :  09:20:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
what?!?!?!
joey played the solo, im sure if it!!!
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billgoodman
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Posted - 05/16/2004 :  13:46:26  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I think rockmusic84 means the break in the middle of the song
with has a different chord progression



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rockmusic84
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Posted - 05/16/2004 :  13:47:11  Show Profile  Visit rockmusic84's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yes, the break.

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whoreatthedoor
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Posted - 05/17/2004 :  03:05:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Could be played only with Kim's bass and vocals. Like a ballad or something.


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jo
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Posted - 05/17/2004 :  04:13:07  Show Profile  Visit jo's Homepage  Reply with Quote
it's a Kim/Frank song

apparently 'Levitate Me' was wrong for years, although that has since been corrected...
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Posted - 05/17/2004 :  09:01:52  Show Profile  Click to see bumblebeeboy2's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
i'm 99% sure there's a quote somewhere (at least one) in which frank talks about how he wrote the music, and possibly even the 'gigantic' bit (as in he had that part of the song done) and kim wrote the rest of the lyrics, the verse and bridge...


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Posted - 05/17/2004 :  09:02:29  Show Profile  Click to see bumblebeeboy2's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jo

it's a Kim/Frank song

apparently 'Levitate Me' was wrong for years, although that has since been corrected...



what do you mean about levitate me?


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jo
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Posted - 05/17/2004 :  09:06:43  Show Profile  Visit jo's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I don't think the authors were credited - Frank's wife and Dave Lovering... they are now though.
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Posted - 05/17/2004 :  09:10:23  Show Profile  Click to see bumblebeeboy2's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jo

I don't think the authors were credited - Frank's wife and Dave Lovering... they are now though.



news to me... so frank's wife and dave co-wrote with frank? or frank did music, they did lyrics? arrghh! stop tearing apart what i thought i knew!


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Posted - 05/17/2004 :  14:15:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I always wondered who the "Walsh" was in the Levitate Me credits...duh...should have known it was Jean Marie!
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Itchload
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Posted - 05/18/2004 :  10:16:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Frank Black was in the recording studio, banging out 10 songs a day, and when Levitate Me was being recorded he got strapped for lyrics and those two chipped in.
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Jason
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Posted - 05/18/2004 :  10:31:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bumblebeeboy2

i'm 99% sure there's a quote somewhere (at least one) in which frank talks about how he wrote the music, and possibly even the 'gigantic' bit (as in he had that part of the song done) and kim wrote the rest of the lyrics, the verse and bridge...




On the Alec Eiffel French Pixies site, in the reviews section, in the 1997 Select review of the Death to the Pixies comp. is an added bit with Frank Black commenting on each song.

Here's the Gigantic bit bumblebeeboy2 might be referring to:

GIGANTIC - Pixies anthem from 'Surfer Rosa'. Lead vocal from bassist Kim Deal.
"A good chord progression, very Lou-Reed influenced. I'd had the word 'gigantic' in my mind just because the chord progression seemed very big to me."

Edited by - Jason on 05/18/2004 10:32:33
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Posted - 05/18/2004 :  14:37:56  Show Profile  Visit pixie punk's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The movie which inspired Kim to write the lyrics for Gigantic is called Crimes Of The Heart(1986).Starring Diane Keaton,Jessica Lange and Sissy Spacek.
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therewererumours
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Posted - 05/18/2004 :  16:50:50  Show Profile  Visit therewererumours's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by charlesthompson

what?!?!?!
joey played the solo, im sure if it!!!



Yeah, I always thought that, but I saw a video of Gigantic live, and Frank plays the solo, pretty cool.

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VoVat
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Posted - 05/19/2004 :  18:09:14  Show Profile  Visit VoVat's Homepage  Click to see VoVat's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
I always wondered who the "Walsh" was in the Levitate Me credits...


I just figured it was the host of "America's Most Wanted."

Nah, just kidding.



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