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TarTar
* Dog in the Sand *
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 Posted - 05/02/2004 : 06:26:59
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So I have a friend who I've been close with for a long time, and we have had countless great discussions about damn near everything. He's a smart guy, no doubt, and is well-read, but he seems well-versed in so many things. Yet when he begins talking about something I know a great deal about, I suddenly have to correct him on so many things. Primarily any statements he makes about the history of rock music, music theory, or musical styles is incorrect (yeah, that's right, the only thing I know anything about is music). For example, we were talking about the great music critic Lester Bangs, and I was quoting something Lester said about Emerson Lake and Palmer. "Here's music sterility at it's pinnacle. Pre-planned solos played at break neck speed for five hours." I was saying what a great rip that was on ELP. And my friend said, "You know why he said that. Cuz ELP wasn't popular. Critics like to bash stuff that isn't popular. It's not like that nowadays, but that's how it used to be." Okay, first, where the hell does he even know anything about the history of rock critics. Second, ELP was HUGE in the 70s. Third, Lester Bangs was NOT into popular music. He was an early supporter of the Velvet Underground and the Stooges when they were ultra-obscure, as well as plenty of other bands that are, to this day, virtually unknown. Fourth, there is no consistancy to music critics. Some like popular stuff, some like obscure, just like any music fan. I couldn't believe my friend was making such an unsupported and ignorant statement, but I hardly tried to refute it, and wish I had cuz it's bugging me to hell.
He also tends to incorrectly use uncommon words, a lot. And mispronounce. He says "awry" like "aww-ree". And pronounced "posthumous" "post-hew-mus." He thought that "nympho" meant someone who sleeps around and "promiscuous" meant someone who enjoys sex to an unusual degree.
I shouldn't be talking such mad shit, but it's just frustrating sometimes to hear so many error and uninformed statements come from someone I often regard as being well-informed and intelligent. Anyone else have someone in their life like this?
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mun chien andalusia
= Quote Accumulator =
Italy
2139 Posts |
Posted - 05/02/2004 : 07:20:02
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One of my flatmates is a compulsive liar. Whatever story/argument you can bring up in a discussion he has seen/done it before. So he has been a great skater (he can't even ride a bike), a great dj (he says he djed with Junior Vasquez),a rock guitarist in 3-4 bands, a short film director (he won a non better identified prize), he crashed a car in an almost mortal accident (even if he doesn't drive or has a driving licence), he met a great number of famous people, etc. But the most irritating thing is that he acts like a film critic. He rents only pre60's films and makes comments like "modern cinema sucks" and "citizen cane changed the way of making films" trying to sound intelectual, but when you try to talk about a film of those that he should know well (like Hitchcock films) he knows nothing. I then find out that he watches films in bits. A bit of the start, a bit of the middle and the end credits. Insane!
The strange thing is that when you meet him the first time he seems an intelligent and interesting guy. When you get to know him better you understand that he is weird.
Currently he is a modern painter. He is intoxicating everybody with sprays trying to look Basquiat. Needless to say that i'm looking for a new flat.
 join the cult of errol\and you can have a beer\without having to quit smoking
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Adnan_le_Terrible
* Dog in the Sand *
France
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Posted - 05/02/2004 : 07:51:39
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Your friend is not the modern Basquiat, he is the modern Münchhausen. Being a liar is a form of artistic expressions, some liars are really creative.
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mun chien andalusia
= Quote Accumulator =
Italy
2139 Posts |
Posted - 05/02/2004 : 08:32:56
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He is creative allright. He invents stories all the time. The real problem is that his lies are not interesting in any way. They are meant to make him look cool, which is pathetic. Back in my school days i had a friend which was a very creative liar. He was like the big fish guy. He invented stuff all the time. But he was so exagerated that it was funny. Some of his tales:
-He was the ghost drummer of Metallica (he said that when Metallica played at Athens, he was behind Ulrich and he was actually drumming while Ulrich was just air drumming because he had a broken arm)
-He claimed that he had Piranhas in his acquarium (the carnivore version)
-A policeman gave him a ride with his motorcycle after pulling him over for dangerous driving(he was with his bmx)
-He fought with 4 nazi-skinheads and floored 2 of them(he was 1.60m tall)
join the cult of errol\and you can have a beer\without having to quit smoking
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Adnan_le_Terrible
* Dog in the Sand *
France
1973 Posts |
Posted - 05/02/2004 : 11:54:28
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Everyone knows a guy like that from school or somethong. These guys are cool.
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
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Posted - 05/02/2004 : 13:02:09
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One of my flatmates is a compulsive liar. Whatever story/argument you can bring up in a discussion he has seen/done it before. So he has been a great skater (he can't even ride a bike), a great dj (he says he djed with Junior Vasquez),a rock guitarist in 3-4 bands, a short film director (he won a non better identified prize), he crashed a car in an almost mortal accident (even if he doesn't drive or has a driving licence), he met a great number of famous people, etc.
mun chien, your roommate wouldn't happen to be Mad Dawg, would he? <g>
I've reached 1000 posts / So I'm too cool to be in a cult. |
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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Canada
6556 Posts |
Posted - 05/02/2004 : 18:13:11
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mun chien, I hate people like that.
I think its just an attention getting thing.
I have an aunt who once told me that there is no way I could have tennis elbow because I don't play tennis. |
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
9168 Posts |
Posted - 05/02/2004 : 20:30:00
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Yes. It's also impossible to get athlete's foot unless you're an athlete, or Lou Gehrig's Disease if your name isn't Lou Gehrig.
I've reached 1000 posts / So I'm too cool to be in a cult. |
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mun chien andalusia
= Quote Accumulator =
Italy
2139 Posts |
Posted - 05/03/2004 : 01:41:49
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Originally posted by VoVat
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One of my flatmates is a compulsive liar. Whatever story/argument you can bring up in a discussion he has seen/done it before. So he has been a great skater (he can't even ride a bike), a great dj (he says he djed with Junior Vasquez),a rock guitarist in 3-4 bands, a short film director (he won a non better identified prize), he crashed a car in an almost mortal accident (even if he doesn't drive or has a driving licence), he met a great number of famous people, etc.
mun chien, your roommate wouldn't happen to be Mad Dawg, would he? <g>
I've reached 1000 posts / So I'm too cool to be in a cult.
Oh my god. You must be right.
join the cult of errol\and you can have a beer\without having to quit smoking
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cvanepps
= Cult of Ray =
USA
442 Posts |
Posted - 05/03/2004 : 16:36:35
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Truth being the root of all things pure, I must admit that I'm a little like your friend, TarTar. I think we just never want to sound like we don't know what we're talking about.
I've also used words wrong. Like I'll say "slavery" when I really mean "freedom." Just a joke, that one.
-= It's not easy to kidnap a fat man =-
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
15297 Posts |
Posted - 05/03/2004 : 16:45:07
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Originally posted by mun chien andalusia
He is creative allright. He invents stories all the time. The real problem is that his lies are not interesting in any way. They are meant to make him look cool, which is pathetic. Back in my school days i had a friend which was a very creative liar. He was like the big fish guy. He invented stuff all the time. But he was so exagerated that it was funny. Some of his tales:
-He was the ghost drummer of Metallica (he said that when Metallica played at Athens, he was behind Ulrich and he was actually drumming while Ulrich was just air drumming because he had a broken arm)
-He claimed that he had Piranhas in his acquarium (the carnivore version)
-A policeman gave him a ride with his motorcycle after pulling him over for dangerous driving(he was with his bmx)
-He fought with 4 nazi-skinheads and floored 2 of them(he was 1.60m tall)
join the cult of errol\and you can have a beer\without having to quit smoking
he owned his own Pirhanas?? that's AWESOME!! |
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guy_nolan
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
417 Posts |
Posted - 05/04/2004 : 06:58:22
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I can't handle people who just constantly lie, you never know where you stand and they usually defend their obviously made-up bs to the uttmost degree. This guy I know called pickles swore that he was once pulled up on stage at a Limp Bizkit gig, and Fred Durst cut his forehead with a razor to the delight of the crowd, or that one time that he jumped over McDonalds on his skateboard, or that he was promoted to green beret only 2 weeks after joing the territorial army. The saddest thing is, he'd probably be fairly easy to get along with if only he'd cut the crap for 5 seconds and maybe dare to take part in a real conversation
For ten thousand years he slept, his mind feeding on the nightmares of the weak. Now he has awakened. As the night turned crimson, the fire-blade shattered and his power died. Then, the slaughter began... |
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Newo
~ Abstract Brain ~
Spain
2674 Posts |
Posted - 05/04/2004 : 07:20:28
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What's so outlandish about owning pirhanas?
-Owen |
Edited by - Newo on 05/04/2004 08:26:56 |
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
17125 Posts |
Posted - 05/04/2004 : 10:53:50
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EVERYONE knows someone like this.
Hansel and Gretel have formed a band, .....And You Will Know Us By The Trail Of Breadcrumbs!!! |
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Little Black Francis
> Teenager of the Year <
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Posted - 05/04/2004 : 11:50:01
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One my best friends would aptly qualify in this category.
The dude never says no to the following questions: Have you heard this band? Have you seen this movie? Has this ever happened to you? etc.
It irritates the shit out of me, just admit you don't know, and then maybe you will learn something.
I mean, he knows a lot of shit, especially about computers and music and random facts, but he acts like he is an expert on anything and everything.
I guess that's why I can only hang out with him a few times a week.
And BTW, he is a really good skateboarder. What's with the complusive liar/skateboarding connection?
The thing that pisses me off the most about him is that he hasn't had a job in a couple of years, he's 26, and lives at home with his mother, who is a wonderful lady BTW, but come on dude, get a fucking job! Anything! |
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A smart friend who often says incorrect things
