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rinard
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 Posted - 03/17/2004 : 01:37:52
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I’m not a religious but astonished to know that Quran contains unbelievable scientific facts discovered just in the last century.
This is really amazing.
· Astronomy!
· Mountains!
· Human Embryology!
· Oceans And Seas!
· The Movement Of Clouds!
· The Cerebrum!
· The Shape Of The Earth!
· The Expansion Of The Universe!
· The Sensory Characteristic Of The Skin!
· Formation Of Iron!
· The Lowest Part On The Face Of The Earth!
· The Sequence Of Day And Night!
· The Snow Age!
· New Diseases!
· Cnn Top Ten Discoveries Of 1998
You can find more info of the Scientists Declaration on the following site:
http://www.islampedia.com/ijaz/Html/Scientist_All/Index.htm
Scientists Declaration
· Keith L.Moore
· E. Marshall Johnson
· T.V.N. Persaud
· Joe Leigh Simpson
· Gerald C. Goeringer
· Alfred Kroner
· Yushidi Kusan
· Professor Armstrong
· William Hay
· Durja Rao
· Professor Siaveda
· Tejatat Tejasen
· Dr. Maurice Bucaille
http://islamicity.com/science/
http://www.islam-guide.com/frm-ch1-1.htm
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jediroller
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 03/17/2004 : 02:15:55
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Mountains! Seas! Clouds! Incredible scientific discoveries indeed. I still find it hard to believe that there are mountains, and that the clouds are moving, but top scientists tell me so... Allah is great!
Sheesh.
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Posted - 03/17/2004 : 07:44:29
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i'd say that many of those discoveries were made more than a century ago.Astronomy for example is one of the first sciences practiced by man.the egyptians were pretty good astronomers,like the greek and later the arabs.
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apl4eris
~ Abstract Brain ~
USA
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Posted - 03/17/2004 : 08:29:29
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Well, this is more than a little kooky. Am I still dreaming?
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
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Posted - 03/17/2004 : 18:40:35
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Mountains! Seas! Clouds! Incredible scientific discoveries indeed. I still find it hard to believe that there are mountains, and that the clouds are moving, but top scientists tell me so... Allah is great!
Well, the mountain wouldn't come to Muhammad, and Muhammad was too lazy to go to the mountain, so he wasn't sure that it existed.
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rinard
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Posted - 03/20/2004 : 22:17:29
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Maybe because of these scientific miracles Islam becomes the fastest-growing religion in America and in the world? Although religion is no longer dominates everyday life in Western society.
A NATION CHALLENGED: AMERICAN MUSLIMS; Islam Attracts Converts By the Thousand, Drawn Before and After Attacks
By JODI WILGOREN
Source: The New York Times: October 22, 2001, Monday
Section: National Desk
http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/3016/fastest.htm
"Islam is the fastest-growing religion in America, a guide and pillar of stability for many of our people..." Hillary Rodman Clinton, Los Angeles Times, May 31, 1996, p.3
Famous people are affected too:
Singer "Cat Stevens" Hear his story as told him
http://www.islamtomorrow.net/converts/yusuf_islam.htm
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
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Posted - 03/20/2004 : 23:10:59
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Well, what choice did Cat Stevens have, when he found out that there were oceans and seas? Allah also helped to get that damned moon shadow to stop following him.
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Adnan_le_Terrible
* Dog in the Sand *
France
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Posted - 03/21/2004 : 01:33:35
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Originally posted by jediroller
Mountains! Seas! Clouds! Incredible scientific discoveries indeed. I still find it hard to believe that there are mountains, and that the clouds are moving, but top scientists tell me so... Allah is great!
Sheesh.
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I live in Paris, and sometimes I wonder myself if mountains really exist.
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jediroller
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 03/21/2004 : 01:48:15
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The fact that people actually live in Paris can be considered itself a scientific miracle.
I live in the North so mountains are quite hard to come by here too, but we have the Flanders Hills. And the sea is not far. And the clouds are forever traveling above. We are surrounded with evidence of the greatness of religion! Cat Stevens, unfortunately, is nowhere to be seen.
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Adnan_le_Terrible
* Dog in the Sand *
France
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Posted - 03/21/2004 : 01:59:38
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The Flanders Hills? D'oh! Damn Flanders.
I guess it's more difficult to be religious when you live in a big city. Last time I was REALLY religious was during my trip to Lapony, for Christmas. At one point there were only two of us, in the middle of a white, snowy forrest, no trace of civilisation, and then this beautiful Aurora Borealis appeared just above us...
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jediroller
* Dog in the Sand *
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1718 Posts |
Posted - 03/21/2004 : 02:49:59
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Originally posted by Adnan_le_Terrible
Last time I was REALLY religious was during my trip to Lapony, for Christmas. At one point there were only two of us
... you and God?
Yeah, I guess that would make someone religious.
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Adnan_le_Terrible
* Dog in the Sand *
France
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Posted - 03/21/2004 : 06:40:28
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Originally posted by VoVat
Well, what choice did Cat Stevens have, when he found out that there were oceans and seas? Allah also helped to get that damned moon shadow to stop following him.
Join the Culf of Buttoms / Correctly spelled cults are so pass#233;.
Love was in the air!
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Adnan_le_Terrible
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 03/22/2004 : 02:19:12
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"The Sequence Of Day And Night!" : There ain't no day, and there ain't no night, into the white!
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Adnan_le_Terrible
* Dog in the Sand *
France
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Posted - 03/22/2004 : 02:19:46
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Kim made some astonishing discoveries during the last century.
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rinard
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Posted - 03/22/2004 : 03:36:09
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From what I've heard from different friends of mine who have converted to Islam, there are a few main reasons for most conversions.
1. Islam is a religious lifestyle, not just a quick Sunday morning church visit and a label. Although some Christians do pray before each meal and spend much time with their Bible, etc.many don't in the USA. Islam is something that can't be shunted into a few spare hours. You pray five times a day. Your dress code is affected; even your food choices are explained in the Qur'an. Many converts like it because they feel actively involved and as if they are truly religious.
2. For women, it is a big and welcome change from the "in your face" sexuality of western culture. Women are not required by the Qur'an to veil. They are required to dress modestly and it is *recommended* that they cover their hair. However, most do veil and some go farther with niquab (the face screen) or other traditional clothes. Women dressed like this consider themselves marked as religious women, not easy dates. They don't get hit on. No one gawks at their bodies. They are clearly off limits sexually and many that I personally know say it is liberating not to have to conform to western standards of sexy dress, makeup and spending so much time and money on appearance. You buy a five-dollar hijab, put your hair in a ponytail and cover, wear long skirt and a tunic shirt -you're set.
3. Islam is also growing because many people are not satisfied with Christianity. They feel it is too liberal, too fluid and changes for the culture. Islam on the other hand is more rigid and does not as a whole allow much for modern changes and the whims of society. Many like it because they feel other religions have loose standards.
That's what I got from the new Muslimah's group at Yahoo, Islamway women's board and a few other friends of mine. Stats taken by many college groups say that women convert 4 times more often then men.
This is an example:
Why Are Women Turning to Islam
At a time when Islam is faced with hostile media coverage particularly where the status of women in Islam is concerned, it may be quite surprising to learn that Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world, and even more ironic to discover that the majority of converts to Islam are WOMEN.
The status of women is society is neither a new issue nor is it a fully settled one, and where Islam is mentioned, for many the term 'Muslim Women' prompts images of exhausted mothers chained to the stove, 'victims' suppressed in a life of indoctrination, frantic to be westernized and so on. Others will go to great lengths to explain how the hijaab is an obstacle, clouding the mind, and comment that female converts are either brainwashed, stupid or traitors to their sex. I reject such accusations and pose to them the following question: why is it that so many women who have been born and brought in the so called 'civilized' societies of Europe and America are willing to reject their 'liberty' and 'independence' to embrace a religion that supposedly oppresses them and is widely assumed to be prejudicial to them?
As a Christian convert to Islam, I can only present my personal experience and reasons for rejecting the 'freedom' that women claim to have in this society in favor of the only Religion that truly liberates women by giving us a status and position, which is completely unique when compared with that of non-Muslim counterparts. Before coming to Islam, I had strong feminist tendencies and recognized that where the women was concerned, a lot of shuffling around had been going on, yet without being able to pin her on the social map. The problem was ongoing: new 'women's issues' being raised without the previous ones being satisfactorily resolved. Like the many women who shared my background, I would accuse Islam of being a sexist religion, discriminating, oppressing and giving men the greater privileges. All this coming from a person who did not even know Islam, one who had been blinded due to ignorance and had accepted this deliberately distorted definition of Islam.
However, despite my criticisms of Islam, inwardly I wasn't satisfied with my own status as a woman in this society. It seemed to me that society would define such terms as 'liberty' and 'freedom' and then these definitions were accepted by women without us even attempting to question or challenge them. There was clearly a great contradiction between what women were told in theory and what actually happens in practice. The more I pondered, the greater emptiness I felt within. I was slowly beginning to reach a stage where my dissatisfaction with my status as a women in this society, was really a reflection of my greater dissatisfaction with society itself. Everything seemed to be degenerating backwards, despite the claims that the 2000 was going to be the decade of success and prosperity. Something vital seemed to be missing from my life and nothing would fill this vacuum. Being a Christian did not do anything for me, and I began to question the validity of only remembering God one day a week - Sundays! As with many other Christians too, I had become disillusioned with the hypocrisy of the Church and was becoming increasingly unhappy with the concept of Trinity and the deification of Jesus. Eventually, I began to look into Islam. At first, I was only interested in looking at those issues, which specifically dealt with women. I was surprised. What I read and learned taught me a lot about myself as a woman, and also about where the real oppression of women lies: in every other system and way of life outside of Islam. Muslim women have been given their rights in every aspect of the religion with clear definitions of their role in society - as had men - with no injustice against either of them. As Allah says: Whoever does deeds of righteousness, be they male or female, and have faith, they will enter paradise and not the least injustice will be done to them [Nisaa 4:124]
So having amended my misconceptions about the true status of women in Islam, I was now looking further. I wanted to find that thing which was going to fill the vacuum in my life. My attention was drawn towards the beliefs and practices of Islam. It was only through establishing the fundamentals that I would understand where to turn and what to prioritize. These are often the areas, which receive little attention or controversy in society, and when studying the Islamic Creed, it becomes clear why this is the case: such concise, faultless and wholly comprehensive details cannot be found elsewhere.
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jediroller
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 03/22/2004 : 04:51:49
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How do you say spam in Arabic?
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Adnan_le_Terrible
* Dog in the Sand *
France
1973 Posts |
Posted - 03/22/2004 : 06:40:42
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The only word of spoken Arabic I know is "tatouf metouf". It means 69.
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mun chien andalusia
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Posted - 03/22/2004 : 06:45:09
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1 Islam is a religious lifestyle, not just a quick Sunday morning church visit and a label. Islam is something that can't be shunted into a few spare hours. You pray five times a day. Your dress code is affected; even your food choices are explained in the Qur'an. Many converts like it because they feel actively involved and as if they are truly religious
The same things are valid for practicing Christians too. Their food choices are affected (can't eat meat on Fridays for example), their dress code is affected (ever seen how they dress in catholic schools?) and they have to pray when they wake up, before lunches and before going to sleep and so on. It's a choice being more or less involved in Christian practices as it should be for the Muslim
2 Women dressed like this consider themselves marked as religious women, not easy dates.They are clearly off limits sexually and many that I personally know say it is liberating not to have to conform to western standards of sexy dress, makeup and spending so much time and money on appearance. You buy a five-dollar hijab, put your hair in a ponytail and cover, wear long skirt and a tunic shirt -you're set.
Considering all western women as easy sluts is as stupid as considering all veiled women as saints. A woman can state pretty clearly that is off limits even if she wears a bikini. And the five-dollar hijab is a stupid thing to say too. Muslims spend for dressing the same amount of money in clothes as we do. Traditional dresses can cost as much as an Armani suit. Women that can afford it buy silk caftans.
3. Islam is also growing because many people are not satisfied with Christianity. They feel it is too liberal, too fluid and changes for the culture. Islam on the other hand is more rigid and does not as a whole allow much for modern changes and the whims of society. Many like it because they feel other religions have loose standards
Loose standards is what makes the world progress. After centuries of oscurantism Europeans (and western societies in general) gained the right to criticize authority without being persecuted. That includes the religious authority. I'm glad i am not menaced by an angry mob everytime a say that the Pope is wrong and a hypocrit. It's called freedom of speech and i'm pretty proud of it. Try to say that Chomeini is a lunatic in Iran and see what happens. Rushdie is still hiding for writing a book. How cool is this?
Regardless dogmatic\religious issues you must admit that muslim societies are much less free and equal than Christian ones. I don't want to start religious wars or anything (i'm a convinced atheist) but the misinterpretation of the Coran has brought nothing but economic and social depression to the majority of the Arab\Muslim world. Take the example of the major muslim countries:
Pakistan: ruled by a dictator (even if he's a US ally at least for the moment)
Saudi Arabia: Base of the Muslim fundamentalism and by no means a human right respectful regime
Turkey: "Democracy" where laws are respected until the army doesn't decide otherwise
Indonesia: Continuous religious\civil wars
etc,etc...
By no means i intend to defend the Christian churches that have a long history of religious crimes and discrimination, but there is a great difference between being able to choose your religion and being obligated to follow stupid traditions like wearing a burqa or something.
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jediroller
* Dog in the Sand *
France
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Posted - 03/22/2004 : 06:49:12
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Amen :)
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Adnan_le_Terrible
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Posted - 03/22/2004 : 06:50:19
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True, many women embrace Islam. Like in the song "Sister Fatima" :
Far off in the distance / I can hear the muezzin / Beside the mosque there stands / A girl I knew so well / As I get closer / I can feel a chill / She's changing her name from Nora / To Sister Fatima / Fatima / Can you hear the words I'm singing ? / Fatima / Can you hear me while you're praying ? / I can still remember / The night she said goodbye / She said we'd meet again someday / In a castle in the sky / The imam has stopped singing / I no longer hear the muezzin / She changed her name from Nora / To sister Fatima / Fatima / Am I really gonna lose you ? / Fatima / Does he need you more than I do ? / Fatima / Am I really gonna lose you ?
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Dave Noisy
Minister of Chaos
Canada
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Posted - 03/22/2004 : 18:36:55
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I dunno, i could see why Islam would appeal to folks.
How many sects of Islam are there? Are they all as dissimilar as the Xian sects? (Catholics to Mormans to JW's to 7th Days..)
I would imagine unity and structure is what people looking for when considering religions.
You gotta admit, many Xian sects are pretty flimsy..i find them hard to take very seriously.
Go to church once a week, and God will accept you..
I'm agnostic, but that seems ridiculous to me. You get what you put into it..heh..
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rinard
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Posted - 03/23/2004 : 02:07:19
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Let there be no misunderstanding of my intentions. This post is not an assault on Christianity or any other religion.
It is indispensable for me to look for the truth and study comparative religion because if I would like to know whether a religion is true or false, I should not depend on my emotions, feelings, or traditions. Rather, I should depend on my reason and intellect. When God sent the prophets, He supported them with miracles and evidences, which proved that they were truly prophets, send by God and that the religion they came with was true.
God revealed a holy book to Jesus called the Injeel, some parts of which may be still available in the teachings of God to Jesus in the New Testament. But this does not mean that the Bible we have today because it is not the original scriptures that were revealed by God. They underwent alterations, additions, and omissions. This was also said by the Committee charged with revising The Holy Bible (Revised Standard Version). This Committee consisted of thirty-two scholars who served as members of the Committee. They secured the review and counsel of an Advisory Board of fifty representatives of the co-operating denominations. The Committee said in the Preface to The Holy Bible (Revised Standard Version), p. iv, “Sometimes it is evident that the text has suffered in transmission, but none of the versions provides a satisfactory restoration. Here we can only follow the best judgment of competent scholars as to the most probable reconstruction of the original text.
The Committee also said in the Preface, p. vii, Notes are added which indicate significant variations, additions, or omissions in the ancient authorities (Mt 9.34; Mk 3.16; 7.4; Lk 24.32, 51, etc.).
My question is do we believe in the information declared in the following sites or not:
THE REAL STORY OF MARY
http://geocities.com/SoHo/Gallery/3001/storyofmary.htm
THE TRUTH ABOUT JESUS
http://sultan.org/articles/Jesus.html
Who Was Jesus According to Jesus?
http://www.islaminfo.com
IS THE BIBLE GODS WORD?
http://www.jamaat.net/bible/Bible1-3.html
Women in Christianity and Islam
http://www.beconvinced.com/women/CH_IS.htm
The Bible - A Closer Look!
http://www.todayislam.com/bible.htm |
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remig
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 03/23/2004 : 02:22:55
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You can't say in the same phrase GOD & REASON & MIRACLES.
If you think that MIRACLES are the proofs that GOD exists, it has nothing to do with REASON but faith.
In my own opinion, EVERY religion (religion=system with text,dogma) has been created to rule the people: You shall not do this, not do that, you must OBEY god and his representatives on earth (politicians, pope, imams, prophet, guru...), don't ask questions and stop thinking.
I don't know if god exists or not, but there is absolutly NO truth in any holy book.
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remig
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Posted - 03/23/2004 : 02:25:31
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Moderators, please lock this topic...
Mad Dawg is may be a spammer but he's funny.
Religious people aren't.
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Adnan_le_Terrible
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Posted - 03/23/2004 : 02:29:27
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Hey Rinard, it's ok if you want to talk about Islam (I happen to know much about it, since my grandfather was an Imam). But stop spamming the fucking forum and try to start a real dialogue. Otherwise, you're going nowhere.
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Adnan_le_Terrible
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 03/23/2004 : 02:34:06
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Originally posted by remig
You can't say in the same phrase GOD & REASON & MIRACLES.
If you think that MIRACLES are the proofs that GOD exists, it has nothing to do with REASON but faith.
In my own opinion, EVERY religion (religion=system with text,dogma) has been created to rule the people: You shall not do this, not do that, you must OBEY god and his representatives on earth (politicians, pope, imams, prophet, guru...), don't ask questions and stop thinking.
I don't know if god exists or not, but there is absolutly NO truth in any holy book.
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Rémi, it pretty much depends on what you call religion, I guess. Of course, if you take the definition of religion given by our friend the spammer...
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remig
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Posted - 03/23/2004 : 02:42:55
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Originally posted by rinard
(...)the so called 'civilized' societies of Europe and America (...)
That's the big issue with you.
I'm happy to live in a so called civilized society, that does not cut robber's hand, does not throw stone at women, where gay & lesbians have the right to live, where there is democracy, where almost everyone can become rich and powerful if he's clever enough, where I can drink or eat whatever I want.
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Adnan_le_Terrible
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Posted - 03/23/2004 : 02:48:55
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"where almost everyone can become rich and powerful if he's clever enough" : You live in the USA, Rémi?
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remig
* Dog in the Sand *
France
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Posted - 03/23/2004 : 03:04:40
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I've said : "Almost"!
I do agree that France has some problem with social elevation, for immigrants first, but also in general.
I agree too Arnie Schwarzy for governor is not the greatest thing US has done, but in some kind of way, a man that's born in another country reaching that high, it's something cool. I can't see somthing like that happen in France.
Saudi Arabia...what a great democratic country, they're not even nice with immigrated muslims.
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mun chien andalusia
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Posted - 03/23/2004 : 09:01:46
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This is degenerating in a crusade. Christianism and Islam are equally guilty of trying to keep people ignorant. Where would be the world now if the Catholic church still had the power it used to have in the middle ages? If the pope had the power to apply the things he preaches? (see : no abortions, no preservatives, no divorce etc?). Probably we would still believe that the Sun goes around the Earth (the catholic church admitted officialy that this wasn't true only in 1978!) and be burned if stated otherwise.
Anyway for some reason the Europeans managed to divide religion from politics, a thing that the arabs and muslims in general haven't yet managed to do. Though the Arab civilization was scientifically and philosophically ahead around 1500-1600 (noone can deny that mathematics, physics, astronomy and ancient philosophy were translated evolved and preserved by the Arabs) instead of evolving into a repubblic of some kind degenerated in what is today. The issue is not if one is religious and of what religion. The issue is that religion cannot and must not interfere with the state and assume the validity of law for all citizens. One must be free to decide how to live his life without forcing his decisions to others. You want to cover yourself from head to toe, don't eat meat, and believe that water can be turned to wine? Fine with me but don't try to force me to live the same way.
One last thing. Though i respect everuone's choices i can't believe the stupidity of those who abbandon 3000 years of human evolution to return to superstition and oscurantism in the name of religion.
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The Calistanian
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USA
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Posted - 03/23/2004 : 09:49:17
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The top two growing religions: Islam and Jehovah's Witnesses. Jehovah's Witnesses are Christians...one of the only segments of Christianity with growth. I believe it's something like 300,000 per year. JW's by far stick to what the Bible actually says, in my observance of them. That's probably why they're growing. As for Islam, I don't know as much about that, but a lot of info can be read above this post.
I believe that religion is the source of most of today's problems, which is why it will have to be eliminated in the future. But the ones who follow the Bible correctly are not the ones causing problems, as far as I can tell. Unfortunately they are few and far between. But obviously something must be done with the whole of religion, as most of it is false. The dogma associated with the Catholic church is horrendous. Why do they teach the trinity? It says it nowhere in the Bible. Yet, they teach it. Sorry, this is a touchy subject for me. I understand why there is hatred toward all religion.
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Adnan_le_Terrible
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 03/23/2004 : 09:58:17
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You cannot deny the fact that religion contributed to the evolution of Man. And it is a nice idea to think that we should be immortal. Most of people tend to identify religion to a bunch of laws and rules you have to respect, and they forget that religion is about belief in a transcendental being.
Yet, Cali, explain me what is so "horrenduous" about the concept of trinity? I find that concept pretty interesting.
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remig
* Dog in the Sand *
France
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Posted - 03/23/2004 : 09:59:21
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remig
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Posted - 03/23/2004 : 10:05:14
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Yes, religion(and not spirituality) says "don't worry, look up at the sky", and while your looking up, they steal the money in your pocket and put it deep in your...
About sticking to the book (whatever it is called,Bible,Torah,Coran or Hubbard's one), it's easier to sell: " You don't know what to do with your life? Tired of asking questions? All you need to know is here,it's true! it's written down here!"
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The Calistanian
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
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Posted - 03/23/2004 : 10:09:00
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quote:
Originally posted by Adnan_le_Terrible
You cannot deny the fact that religion contributed to the evolution of Man. And it is a nice idea to think that we should be immortal. Most of people tend to identify religion to a bunch of laws and rules you have to respect, and they forget that religion is about belief in a transcendental being.
Yet, Cali, explain me what is so "horrenduous" about the concept of trinity? I find that concept pretty interesting.
Let there be loooooooove. God bless Snitz.
Don't get me wrong, I slam religion as a whole, yet I believe I am a religious person, and I try to make sure my faith is based on well-founded sources.
What's horrendous about the Trinity? IT'S NOT IN THE BIBLE! That's what's horrendous about it. They teach it like it is.
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Homers_pet_monkey
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Posted - 03/23/2004 : 10:33:09
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I don't see how anyone can follow a religion that doesn't promote one simple ideal, and one only. To treat others with love and respect. No god should ask anymore of us than that. Whatever my god is, I just can't believe he demands I wear certain clothes, go certain places at certain times, eat certain foods, kill certain people etc. I was brought up a Catholic but I see as much wrong with it as any other religion. Religion has just become so wrong to me now. People have lost sight of what it should all be about. Loving one another. That in itself is a near impossible thing to do all of the time, so I would rather concentrate more energy into that. 
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The Scientific Miracles
