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DrBone
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Posted - 03/05/2004 : 17:45:16
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Either way, I can't see one of these shows being a pixies show and the other three being only the Breeders. I'd like to think that they wouldn't do that to fans... |
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beatnik
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Posted - 03/05/2004 : 20:08:47
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Not that I think it is an impossibility but personally I would be shocked if anything Pixies related happens at any of the Calafornia shows. It would go totally against everything else up to this point. For example, the whole scalping crackdown for the Winnipeg show, no, not all the shows, just the Winnipeg show. They obviously made the request to ticketmaster to hold all the tickets until they could rout out as many scalpers as possible on Ebay and to take tickets from those that broke the published limit. Neither Ticketmaster, nor the venue itself would ever do that themselves without being asked by the performers. And why did the Pixies do this? Because it is their first show in 12 years and they want to reward their Canadian fans (who recently received Frank Black and the Catholics extremely well and perhaps not coincidentally he wrote a song about the province) and even more importantly, all their true fans coming from far away to see them by making sure they got in. So why did the Pixies go to such extreme measures to assure the place would be full of true fans? So they could instead make a semi-surprise appearance just weeks before? I don't think so. It makes no sense.
Perhaps it is better put this way? What seems more likely:
Scenario 1: The members of the Pixies do not want their first live performances in months to be at the first Pixies show in 12 years. They are going to be nervous enough as it already is so they are all going to stay "live" sharp by playing with their individual projects between now and then.
Scenario 2: After going through great lengths to get tickets for their first scheduled show in 12 years into the hands of their fans, and now knowing how much those fans have looked forward to the show, and having waited 12 years already themselves for this reunion, they now decide that they can't wait any longer and forget about all that effort they went through to protect the Winnipeg gig.
What makes more sense? Hey, I could be totally wrong, but I'm just saying I would be shocked and it wouldn't seem to make much sense or fit into the character of the band as a whole. |
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Sad Punk
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Posted - 03/05/2004 : 20:34:41
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you must be going to winnipeg you all put the win in winnipeg
good points though, very good points i'm just hoping for a great breeders show maybe kim needs to start out small instead of diving in to playing bigass venues(it's been awhile) and frank could give a shit. i would just think it would be fun for the pixies to play little places before they have the comeback tour of the century and take over the world. my only guess are these impromptu breeders shows. i would rather see some anagrams or riddles in the show listings. this is all we have. for now. allknowing "friend of joseph alberto" will hopefully come back and set us all straight here in my opinion, boston should be the 1st place for the tour that is just a warm-up tour for the european tour that is mostly fesivals that are kinda not all that fun and usually have short sets and expensive h2o, before the never announced high -priced american cure/love and rockets/pixies outdoor(?) arena clear channel extravaganza tour
all this without any fighting from kim and frank
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marbleslinger
- FB Fan -
Canada
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Posted - 03/05/2004 : 22:25:13
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if my tickets i got off ebay dont get me into winnipeg because of some stupid ticketmaster crack down im gonna be the "sad" punk...
i was talkin to peachy peach about kissy kiss |
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <
South Sandwich Islands
4204 Posts |
Posted - 03/05/2004 : 22:52:24
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Excellent conjecture, all. Let the guesswork continue! |
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Solidgld
- FB Fan -
USA
104 Posts |
Posted - 03/06/2004 : 00:45:51
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I have had a blast catching up in here and did see that right now tickets for the Troubadour show still on sale,I better get my tickets now. I just want to see a good show who cares who plays. |
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pixiesseixip
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Posted - 03/06/2004 : 08:46:15
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Has anyone else noticed the HUGE chip on the shoulders of folks going to the Winnipeg show?
It's laughable.
Why would the Pixies reward the Canadians for welcoming the Catholics? The Pixies are more than just Frank Black. I don't think Mr. Lovering's magic act received a warmer reception up there. Mr. Santiago's Martini's didn't crack the charts up there. And I don't recall Mrs. John Murphy having any particular love for the Maple Leafs. If you were to make your "Love of Canada" argument for a "Frank Black and the Catholics" reunion, I MIGHT buy it. Not for the Pixies though.
(P.S. That Ticketmaster "We're checking on eBay" junk was all bogus. That was all talk, just to make all the whiners feel better. There's no way they were able to take down any auctions, or stop any tickets except those folks who bought more than the alloted number).
I really hope the Pixies, or whatever you wanna call them, show up at Spaceland.
In fact, I am hope the Pixies appear ANYWHERE before april 14th, even if it's in Boston, or China. It would just make such a great story, and it would be a fantastic treat for anyone who got to see that show. That "show" "appearance" or whatever you want to call it, would go down in history as THE GREATEST PIXIES MOMENT EVER.
Followed only by their last show on this upcoming tour. Winnipeg's no more than a footnote in history...
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DrBone
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Posted - 03/06/2004 : 10:47:03
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I think that to discount any Pixies happenings at the Breeders shows is to be a bit naive. It's far too close to the beginning of the tour and plus if the Pixies are getting back together, why in hell would Kim want to play a mini CA tour with her band when she's getting revved up for the most lucrative and popular thing she's done in a decade? It just doesn't make sense that these four shows weren't in some way tied to the Pixies.
How though?
I think we can all agree that an advertised Breeders show will feature the Breeders as they wouldn't stiff their fans like that as I'm sure many Breeders fans are neutral on the subject of the Pixies or maybe don't like them at all. So I'm guessing that one of these shows (Spaceland maybe?) might be a full on Pixies show while the other three will have the four of them onstage briefly for a song in the encore. It makes sense because all of us Southern (And some Northern) Californians will not have had a chance to see them on their warm up tour in our region before Coachella and will not get to see them until after they get back from Europe if they ever play again after that... So I think that common sense dictates that these shows have a 90% chance of featuring th Pixies in some form. We'll just have to wait and see.
Listening to the Purple Tape,
The Doctor |
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roomloo
= Cult of Ray =
USA
710 Posts |
Posted - 03/06/2004 : 11:12:33
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For what it's worth, not a single Winnipeg auction has successfully ended on eBay since the "crackdown" was announced. The last one to complete was Feb. 26, which was 9 days ago. There is one curious active auction up there, which started on March 1 ... we'll see how that pans out, because you'd think it would have been shut down by now if it ever would be. The other two actives started just last night, so it's early to say they won't be shut down promptly.
By the way, whether Winnipeg is merely a "footnote" is a matter of opinion. You'll have your fun, we'll have ours. BOTH will be historic (assuming your wishes do come true). Even if you don't get the Pixies at all, you'll have your fun and have great stories to tell. You can talk about what jerks the Winnipeg people have been, but I haven't seen a post as mean-spirited and condescending as yours (aside from Frankblacktaper's, which was also in defense of the California shows, not Winnipeg).
Although I totally agree with what you say about the "love of Canada" defense ... that whole thing struck me as sort of odd, too. Let's all be in this together, people ... and I'll admit I reacted badly when people started putting down Winnipeg in the rush of excitement about the "secret" shows ... but come on, you can be excited about what you're getting without marginalizing other people's fun. We're all Pixies fans, we'll all have stories to tell, and the Winnipeg, Boise, Saskatoon, and California people will all have things to share after the shows that will make everyone else jealous.
So competitive.
Peace. |
Edited by - roomloo on 03/06/2004 11:16:54 |
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The New Bolero
= Cult of Ray =
394 Posts |
Posted - 03/06/2004 : 11:20:08
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As the kids say, "it's all good."
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friend of joseph alberto
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Posted - 03/06/2004 : 13:00:50
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Edited by - friend of joseph alberto on 03/06/2004 22:54:35 |
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roomloo
= Cult of Ray =
USA
710 Posts |
Posted - 03/06/2004 : 14:45:05
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"Officially." The operative word here (he even italicized it!)
Something is up ... even I am convinced. Assuming this guy is for real... |
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Sad Punk
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Posted - 03/06/2004 : 17:46:07
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i love you friend of joseph alberto santiago you make this posting everything it should be deleted message?!?!? quotation marks? why do you tease us so? how do you do it? i'm going to have an anxiety attack
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pixiesseixip
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75 Posts |
Posted - 03/06/2004 : 18:08:29
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what did I miss? "message deleted"?
help? |
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Ringo
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Posted - 03/06/2004 : 19:00:34
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Have you noticed that the most of the shows are around $20 or so except for 2. The Santa Cruz and the Chico shows are $13.
If we assume there are to be some shows that are pixies-related breeders shows and some that are not. It would make sense that the cheaper shows would be the non-pixies related so that it would lower the potential for the mob that thinks they are going to get to see some pixies action.
Friend of Joesph Alberto....spill your beans already...if you have any to spill. |
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roomloo
= Cult of Ray =
USA
710 Posts |
Posted - 03/06/2004 : 19:53:25
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This is pretty much what he said. Someone else should try and fill in the blanks for me:
--------- All of the shows will feature the Breeders, as has been announced.
Officially, there will not be a band known as "Pixies" at any of the shows.
However, (I'm forgetting exactly what was stated here), every show will be different (or maybe he said "the shows will not all be the same").
JAS is in LA (So. Cal.) in March. -----------
I know the first sentence is pretty much right. He definitely used the word "feature," which I guess could either mean they will be headlining all of the shows, or just that they will be a big part of all the shows.
The word "Officially," in italics, was definitely in the other sentence. The wording isn't exact, but he did basically say that there will be no band called Pixies -- but only in an official sense (or possibly he meant "there officially will be no Pixies," but that is NOT what he said).
I'm vague in my recall of the third part, but he did say something about different things at different shows.
And he did use the initials "JAS" and the thing about LA with "So. Cal." in parentheses. |
Edited by - roomloo on 03/06/2004 21:49:14 |
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Ringo
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Posted - 03/07/2004 : 02:00:32
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Saw this on the breeders forum. It is response to a poster from Richard Presley of the Breeders....thought I'd share (here is the link: http://noaloha.com/breeders/forum/viewtopic.php?t=843) :
Hello Tardicus Finch,
Welcome to the forum. Well first of all I will answer your questions in the order you asked them.
1. Why haven't the official websites listed these dates on the tour pages?
answer; I don't know. All I can say is that this little tour was set up very last minute, and all the details have not been ironed out yet.
2. Why has there not been much publicity? Tickets are still available to most shows. (Not complaining about that - believe me!)
answer; I'm sure the promoters are scambling to get the word out as soon as possible. most of the shows have only been confirmed like 2 days ago. I'm sure there will be something in your local weekly.
3. Will any of Kim's bandmates from the Pixies be dropping by for a song or two?
answer; Oh I don't know. It's not planned or anything. I'm sure Joe and David will come out to either of the L.A shows. You know, The Breeders were playing Gigantic in our set, but I don't think we'll be playing that tune during this go round because of the up coming Pixies tour. Maybe those guys will want to jump up on stage and play it. Who knows?
4. Can we assume that they could drop by at any of the 7 or so shows that have been scheduled? Or perhaps only the first one?
answer: Probably just Spaceland, or The Troubadour. or both.
Well anyhow, I hope I've answered your questions sufficiently
Thanx, Richard
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
15297 Posts |
Posted - 03/07/2004 : 02:06:53
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quote: Originally posted by LoganZ
The truth is, the real pressure is on Joey. Dave can just drum, Kim just has to not get Too drunk, Black just has to scream. But Joey cannot and I mean CANNOT play guitar like a 40 year old has-been. That guitar needs to be abused and tossed around and lit on fire like it's 1989 or this just won't be the Pixies.
If there is a Sneak-Gig down there, that is what I want to know from you LA-er's: "What did JOEY do?"
He will make or break the whole tour.
And I hope you guys have camera's on you.
Joey made a special appearance at the 2002 Knitting Factory show in LA (with Frank) and played Where Is My Mind, Jumping Beans and something else.. he sounded flawless from where i was listening..
i don't think you need to worry about Joey. he hasn't lost anything.. |
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kromkamp
= Cult of Ray =
291 Posts |
Posted - 03/07/2004 : 06:59:07
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I didnt know they were playing Gigantic on the Breeders tour.
Better be the spaceland gig they come out to, I cant take any more time off to see the Troubadour show! |
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <
South Sandwich Islands
4204 Posts |
Posted - 03/07/2004 : 07:48:36
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quote: Originally posted by floop
Joey made a special appearance at the 2002 Knitting Factory show in LA (with Frank) and played Where Is My Mind, Jumping Beans and something else..
Lyle was there, too! |
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fumanbru
* Dog in the Sand *
Canada
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Posted - 03/07/2004 : 08:44:30
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quote: Originally posted by pixiesseixip
Has anyone else noticed the HUGE chip on the shoulders of folks going to the Winnipeg show?
It's laughable.
i live in winnipeg and think it's fuckin awesome that the pixies are playing in our city. i couldn't give a shit if they played a gig before that. actually it would be pretty cool for anyone who had the chance to see it. i'd love to see the breeders show, but i would be really surprised if the pixies did get on stage.
i think frank wants to start in western canada because it's more low key and there's a good fan base here. plus he's only played here once before and he was received really well when the catholics toured here last year. unfortunately i won't be at the winnipeg show cause i'll be out of town, but have lots of friends who are going and are pretty stoked. instead i'm flying to vancouver to check out both shows.
"I joined the Cult of Frank/ and I got a free t-shirt with this dude on it." |
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
15297 Posts |
Posted - 03/07/2004 : 09:08:22
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quote: Originally posted by BLT
quote: Originally posted by floop
Joey made a special appearance at the 2002 Knitting Factory show in LA (with Frank) and played Where Is My Mind, Jumping Beans and something else..
Lyle was there, too!
yeah, i know.. i was there. were you at that show BLT? |
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <
South Sandwich Islands
4204 Posts |
Posted - 03/07/2004 : 14:25:49
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quote: Originally posted by floop
yeah, i know.. i was there. were you at that show BLT?
Yup. Cinco de Mayo... I remember Frank said he'd been down on Olvera Street drinking all day.
Here are a couple photos I took with my shitty old 1 megapixel camera...
With Lyle:
With Joey:
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kromkamp
= Cult of Ray =
291 Posts |
Posted - 03/07/2004 : 14:34:35
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FYI... I was speaking with Ticketweb today because I was curious about those extra tickets that went on sale for Spaceland a couple of days later (wanted to make sure they werent a computer glitch).
They said it was because they had cancelled lots of orders that were more than 2 tickets and put them back on sale.
So, if you ordered 4, you're screwed. (This means you, pixiesseixip)
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Ringo
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Posted - 03/07/2004 : 15:34:59
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Ticketweb and Ticketmaster seem to be really working to hurt the scalpers. Too bad tickets.com isn't following lead and cancelling some of the Davis tickets on ebay.
But I got my tickets to slims on the 27th....hopefully everyone is playing down the pixies involvement in this breeders mini-tour. |
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
5454 Posts |
Posted - 03/07/2004 : 15:35:14
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Yikes. I ordered 2 for the Fairfax gig and then an hour later decided to order another 2. Hope I'm not screwed. The ticketweb page said that they would be occasionally more tickets for the Spaceland show and the Fairfax show is sold out on ticketweb (maybe there are more at the club). |
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kromkamp
= Cult of Ray =
291 Posts |
Posted - 03/07/2004 : 15:58:50
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Well, if you are let me know. I've got a pair for the Fairfax show that I'm almost certainly not going to use now that I have a ticket to Spaceland.
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beatnik
- FB Fan -
USA
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Posted - 03/07/2004 : 18:08:01
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Has anyone noticed the SMALLpenis between the legs of pixiesseixip?
Hey kid, if you are jealous of those fans going to the Winnipeg show, that is really sad. Additionally, if you are going to insult fans going to that show, many of which contribute and/or run this site, at least be man enough to pony up some money and donate to the site.
As far as prejudice/ignorance goes, didn't your Mommy teach you better? If you have problems with someone, at least be specific, don't group people together.
And to those with tickets to the LA show, I hope for your sake that they do make an appearance. Yes, I would be envious, but very happy for all of you. Good luck and look forward to hearing all about whatever happens. |
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
5454 Posts |
Posted - 03/07/2004 : 21:01:15
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quote: Originally posted by kromkamp
Well, if you are let me know. I've got a pair for the Fairfax show that I'm almost certainly not going to use now that I have a ticket to Spaceland.
Thanks for the offer kromkamp. I checked my order status and it claimed that both sets of tickets have been shipped. I should be alright. Now, if a 2nd Davis date were added (and I managed a ticket this time) I would be set. |
Edited by - darwin on 03/07/2004 21:09:57 |
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anazgnos
= Cult of Ray =
USA
383 Posts |
Posted - 03/08/2004 : 01:40:03
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quote: Originally posted by beatnik
Has anyone noticed the SMALLpenis [sic] between the legs of pixiesseixip?
No, and I doubt anyone else here has been in any position to notice such a thing. Thanks for sharing, though. |
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beatnik
- FB Fan -
USA
37 Posts |
Posted - 03/08/2004 : 08:50:30
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uummmm....geez. Some folks really need to chill out and get a sense of humor in here (even if it is bad, any sense of one would do). |
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pixiesseixip
- FB Fan -
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Posted - 03/08/2004 : 10:05:01
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quote: Originally posted by beatnik
Has anyone noticed the SMALLpenis between the legs of pixiesseixip?
Hi beatnik, You didn't seem to mind while your face was down there. Although I guess it would've been difficult to say something while you were gagging on it.
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pixiesseixip
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Posted - 03/08/2004 : 10:06:37
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beatnik,
Did it ever occur to you that I AM A WOMAN! You probably don't have much experience with members of the opposite sex, so I guess I really can't blame you for making such a sexist remark.
But maybe next time you should think about it before you toss out a completely worthless insult.
P.S. Thanks for proving my point about having a chip on your shoulder, moron. |
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DrBone
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98 Posts |
Posted - 03/08/2004 : 10:49:40
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HEY!!!
No more drama in this thread! We need to be spend more time getting to the bottom of this mysterious Pixies/Breeders situation. So start some other thread to air these petty arguments and let's get back on message here. |
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roomloo
= Cult of Ray =
USA
710 Posts |
Posted - 03/08/2004 : 10:57:35
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No shit. I'm surprised people aren't diverting that same energy into speculation about those mysterious words from "friend of joseph alberto." Or are we really more interested in whether pixiesseixip has a penis or not than we are about the Pixies? |
Edited by - roomloo on 03/08/2004 10:59:32 |
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