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The Calistanian
* Dog in the Sand *
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 Posted - 03/04/2004 : 12:50:07
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Well, I think we've proven that when a person likes or dislikes a band, it's based on more than how similar or different they are. Really, if a person likes the Beatles, then based on my theory, that same person should like the Monkees, which is wrong. So, other factors come into play...like styles of individual musicians, voice qualities, the musician's personality, the musician's beliefs, other various experiences regarding the band, all affect our opinion of a band. Good stuff, TarTar, you've added insight into my understanding of why people do or do not like bands.
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
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Posted - 03/04/2004 : 16:38:17
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At this point, he was so greatly obsessed with Led Zeppelin that it was all he could talk about. There was nothing else but Zep. Well, he also made it a point to talk about how worthless Jewish people and blacks were, since, according to him, no Jewish or black people had ever contributed to the advancement of society in any way. I couldn't fucking believe this blind racist propaganda he was tossing at me, and I let him know he was wrong. I stopped hanging out with him pretty quickly.
And that guy grew up to be...Mad Dawg.
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ProverbialCereal
- FB TabMaster -
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Posted - 03/04/2004 : 17:40:42
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Originally posted by TarTar
Well, he also made it a point to talk about how worthless Jewish people and blacks were, since, according to him, no Jewish or black people had ever contributed to the advancement of society in any way.
First there was the Blues, then Rock n Roll and Jazz came out of the Blues, more or less.
How can he be obsessed with "the greatest rock n roll band ever" and give no credit to black people, when they were the main innovators of the blues? The blues basically gave way to rock and roll.
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <
South Sandwich Islands
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Posted - 03/04/2004 : 18:48:24
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Originally posted by ProverbialCereal
How can he be obsessed with "the greatest rock n roll band ever" and give no credit to black people, when they were the main innovators of the blues? The blues basically gave way to rock and roll.
Derek reminded me of a Julian Cope song.
Well, the blues had a baby and the bastard couldn't sing
So the priest holds the candle and the parents kiss the ring
Someone shouted, 'Let's keep the afterbirth and throw the kid away'
And I fried my brainsac for the pain I felt today |
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GypsyDeath
Zapped Profile
3575 Posts |
Posted - 03/11/2004 : 03:42:49
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So...Who was it that said this thread would die because of my stupid comment at the beginning? haha.
Jim - that hicks qoute, thats one of my fav shows of his. haha.
I havent seen hicks for ages. hmm...
Boys go to Jupiter, Get more stupider,
Girls go to Mars, Become rock stars
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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <
Poland
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Posted - 12/02/2005 : 21:19:02
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The beatles fucking rock. been listening to them constantly lately.
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IceCream
= Quote Accumulator =
USA
1850 Posts |
Posted - 12/02/2005 : 21:24:47
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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <
Poland
4698 Posts |
Posted - 12/02/2005 : 21:26:50
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Originally posted by IceCream
that's one gigantic gap between the times of the last two posts.
and one gigantic leap in my mind
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
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Posted - 12/03/2005 : 03:19:00
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Originally posted by GypsyDeath
I havent seen hicks for ages. hmm...
Maybe he's hiding? It certainly is curious.
I remember a quote from, I think, Lemmy, along the lines of: "everything new that gets done in music, the Beatles did it first."
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zub_the_goat
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
639 Posts |
Posted - 12/03/2005 : 03:59:50
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| I personally love the beatles, but can see why people would think they are nothing special, however, a lot of the people ive spoken too who had 'been there' when the beatles first arrived on the scene describe how much of a big thing they were, music would be a very different creature today without the beatles |
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
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Posted - 12/03/2005 : 04:37:04
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The old thread revival continues unabated! :)
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Z_Zoquis
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Posted - 12/03/2005 : 05:54:00
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| Man what a thread. Just the way it goes I suppose. There are young folk running around now poo-pooing the sacrifices brave men made during the world wars too. As time goes by and things fade more and more into the past it becomes easier and easier to write them off as insignificant. The Beatles were HUGE in every possible way. L/M remain the two pop songwriters that every other artist in the genre aspires to whether they know it or not. They wrote a truck-load of virtually perfectly crafted pop songs and almost every important power pop band (and most rock bands in general even if they're trying NOT to sound like the Beatles) since (from Split Enz, Squeeze, Blondie, The Db's, Plimsouls, Big Star, The Raspberries, right up to Nirvana and The New Pornographers and everything in between including FB) has explicitly or implicitly referenced the work they did. I garantee you the man doesn't think he's a better songwriter than L/M. Personally, I like the Velvet Underground better. I find their grittier, noisier style more to my liking. But even the Velvet Underground were influenced by the Beatles. More than any other band of the time, The Beatles shaped the future of Rock & Roll. |
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GypsyDeath
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Posted - 12/05/2005 : 09:39:10
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good lord. it is odd coming back and seeing alot of my threads being revivied.
HAH cheeseman. This thread was never gonna beomce stagnant.
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TRANSMARINE
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
2002 Posts |
Posted - 12/05/2005 : 10:02:27
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Turn me on dead man.
I was alone...in my BIG BED
-bRIAN |
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
9168 Posts |
Posted - 12/05/2005 : 10:54:28
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Cranberry sauce.
"If you doze much longer, then life turns to dreaming. If you doze much longer, then dreams turn to nightmares." |
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TRANSMARINE
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
2002 Posts |
Posted - 12/05/2005 : 11:38:55
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Goo goo ga joob
I was alone...in my BIG BED
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
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Posted - 12/05/2005 : 13:14:45
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I think that Beatles may be the best band of the 20thCentury, (I always hate 'of all time')
and they were highly influential and they remained highly influential, and will remain highly influential (just like bach, beethoven, gershwin, dylan and Surface Noise, ;) ).
I don't really like their first period, I think the Kinks had better first albums, more agressive, better lyrics, better guitarlicks. I even think the Stones had a better begining (haven't listened to their first record more than once).
things they invented:
-The Album as a collection of songs that are supposed to be tied together
not a collection of singles with a bunch of junk, that will be altered in
every other country were they have different singles. There was a lot of 'move the product' in the 50's/60's. New single? Okay, put them together with the other 3 last singles and let's call it another album. The Beatles were the first, at least the first mainstream act that had the concept of 'album' that we had over the last 40 years and with the internet and the massive downloading of a couple of songs that people like is vanishing a bit.
-The unnamed album (white album? no way, it's called nothing, or 'the beatles'). I believe nobody did that before them
-The numbering of albums (white album) in a way that customers/fans see it and want to have low-numbers and collect them.
-They were a mainstream-act but did lot's of controversial things that make me believe that they were 'real'.
don't think they invented Pop though, remember Elvis? I won't call him an inventor, but he was definately 'pop'.
Ohh and I think lot's of credit should be given in the masterpiece-pop-departement to mr.Brian Wilson circa Pet Sounds/Smile. Lovely
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