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hibster
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 Posted - 02/23/2004 : 04:25:17
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tlm is the one i have listened to least.
c'mon pilgrim & surfer got played to death when they came out & then doolittle (which was when they took off in the uk IMO) came along & got all the great reviews & the band started playing larger venues though it was definitely a record of two halves.
have been listening to bossanova a lot recently but as i only ever had trompe on vinyl & dont have a record player now i cant listen to it!
will pick up a copy on cd off of ebay now that seeing them again , but was happy with the official ones i had, together with the bbc sessions, purple tape & death to til now without feeling there was a big hole that TLM could fill.
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two reelers
* Dog in the Sand *
Austria
1036 Posts |
Posted - 02/23/2004 : 04:43:35
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Trompe is my favorite album ever. Every single song is AMAZING. There is not a single song I don't like. There is not a single song that I don't absolutely LOVE. Those 15 songs are 15 of the greatest songs ever written.
And I love EVERYTHING about the album - the production, the track sequence, the diversity, et cetera.
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i agree up to 120%. TLM is fanta-fucking-tastic. and also, it's the most poetic one. take the lyrics to navajo, olympus mons, subbacultcha...
TLM, FB self-titled, TOTY - these are Frank's ultimate highlights, IMO. i would call it the golden era.
Death to the Pixies / Here comes Frank Black |
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
Ireland
11546 Posts |
Posted - 02/23/2004 : 09:11:57
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It's great, apart from a couple of good-but-not-brilliant songs....I was suprized 'U-mass' ended up on the 'Death To The Pixies' best-of, even though it's a pretty good tune.
CARL.
 "ME TOO!"
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kingphilbert
= Cult of Ray =
USA
356 Posts |
Posted - 02/23/2004 : 13:42:07
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| Here's to joining a thread late... Trompe Le Monde is SPECTACULAR!!! I was just discussing this with my friend, the one who had turned me onto the Pixies. Weird that a different friend entirely turned me onto Frank Black seperately. He loves Bossanova, I love Trompe. He thinks it's because I am always a Frank Black fan first and it relates to his earlier solo releases. I think it's because of the power they instill into half the album. The little nuances that chime in the back of the songs that make it sound deliciously new wave. Alec Eiffel amd Head On. The suite-esque Palace of Brine into Letter to Memphis. Motorway to Roswell. Oh so great. |
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Jefrey
= Cult of Ray =
USA
918 Posts |
Posted - 02/23/2004 : 14:53:59
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It's so good. The first time I heard it I started drooling. After Bossanova, which took a while to grow on me, I was expecting them to mellow further, but I was happy to be very wrong.
They're all good. TLM - one of the last great "albums" - seems like the only band that tracks a decent album these days is Guided By Voices. |
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George42
- FB Fan -
USA
188 Posts |
Posted - 02/23/2004 : 16:04:15
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| i agree. TLM is amazing. i rank it right behind doolittle has the pixies best album. |
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Chris Knight
= Cult of Ray =
USA
899 Posts |
Posted - 02/23/2004 : 18:03:56
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Trompe le Monde is the greatest rock album I have ever heard. That said, I am willing to accept that it isn't the most consistent Pixies album. Head On, UMass, Palace of the Brine, and (especially) The Navajo Know are less than classic, but... most of the other songs are pure genius. Besides, the song sequence is extremely cohesive, while the sound production is just out of this world. I've always wished Charles would've worked harder on the vocal for Bird Dream of the Olympus Mons, though.
 Join the Cult of the Flying Pigxies *snort* SCREEEEEECH! *flap flap flap* |
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frankblackphx
= Cult of Ray =
USA
287 Posts |
Posted - 02/23/2004 : 18:25:38
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I remember reading somewhere before Trompe came out that Frank said this was going to be their "Heavy Metal" album. Does anyone else remember reading that article? I am going to have to search for it.
I got me so down I got me a headache. |
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Picapiedra
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121 Posts |
Posted - 02/23/2004 : 21:33:48
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I love putting my windows down and blasting TLM at the Hobos begging at the stoplights while I shout along at the top of my lungs. They just kind of shy away like I am a dangerous lunatic that has threatened their life. Not to say I wouldn't do the same with any other Pixies album though. But that little run from Sad Punk to Birds Dream of Olympus Mons is an awesome stretch. Love it.
-roger.
"Drug run'n on this Panamanian schooner." |
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Stuart
- The Clopser -
China
2291 Posts |
Posted - 02/24/2004 : 06:28:06
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Trompe is great, as good as any Pixies album that was released.... in fact I'll be really pissed off if they neglect to play songs off of Trompe and Bossanova.
Who's the man that won't cop out when there's danger all about? |
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banonna
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Posted - 02/24/2004 : 21:28:52
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HI!!!!!
I am on the "I LOVE TROMPE LE MONDE" team! It is either one of the happiest accidents or one of the best planned albums in terms of flow... especially the first half of the album. "Trompe Le Monde" to "Planet of Sound" to "Alec Eiffel" - KICKS!!! And the transition from "Palace of the Brine" to "Letter to Memphis" is flawless, and sappy or not, it always makes me feel happy.  Also, TLM came out during a really great time in my life, so there's some sentimental shyte there too.
I love it! I think I'll put it on now!  |
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The Calistanian
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1342 Posts |
Posted - 02/25/2004 : 12:51:19
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Trompe le Monde is great...it's so trebley. Authoritative guitars.
I'm a fsh with no i's. |
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pudmeister
- FB Fan -
United Kingdom
159 Posts |
Posted - 02/25/2004 : 13:31:03
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Trompe fucking rocks, as do all their albums i dont prefer anyone of them.
"Looking through the eye of a pig I see it all" - Cypress Hill |
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martha_promise
= Cult of Ray =
USA
398 Posts |
Posted - 02/25/2004 : 16:00:19
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Trompe le Monde is a great fucking album. So is everything else that Frank, Black, Charles, Francis, has touched. I don't understand how some people can have an ear for some of it, and not all of it. I'd put anything up against everything and it would still be a wash. I dunno.
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greg
- FB Fan -
Canada
159 Posts |
Posted - 02/25/2004 : 19:17:26
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| Trompe is great, not the first choice of a Pixies binge, but it heads and shoulders above anything else non-Pixies in my collection. Come to think of it, it is a lot better album than anything in most peoples collection. I likes it! I listens to it! |
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
Ireland
11546 Posts |
Posted - 02/26/2004 : 10:05:50
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Yeah, I read it was gonna sound 'metal'....? Maybe they're next album(if there is one) will sound 'Nu-Metal'(giggle!)!
CARL.
"ME TOO!"
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Newo
~ Abstract Brain ~
Spain
2674 Posts |
Posted - 02/26/2004 : 11:42:56
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Bit of Pixies apocrypha I heard was twasn´t spozed to sound as heavy as it did but that old queen Ozzy Osbourne was recording next door. Anyone know if there´s any truth to this?
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"You one of those right wing nut outfits?" inquired the diplomatic Metzger.
Fallopian twinkled. "They accuse us of being paranoids."
"They?" inquired Metzger, twinkling also.
"Us?" asked Oedipa.
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ShakeyShake
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
1058 Posts |
Posted - 02/26/2004 : 12:25:42
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Yeah i think it was just a media rumour going that it was gonna be a heavy metal album
"I joined the Cult of Frank / 28:06:42:12" |
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dyperman
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87 Posts |
Posted - 02/26/2004 : 19:15:29
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| I think its their best. At very least its the most "different" more keyboards but back to verse chorus verse that made them so awesome. My favorite and any time the pixies play Jesus and Mary Chain has to be monumental. Pere Ubu warmed them up on this tour and it couldnt have been a better evening |
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beatnik
- FB Fan -
USA
37 Posts |
Posted - 02/27/2004 : 20:46:31
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Absolutely nothing wrong with it. Although Palace of the Brine, Letter to Memphis, ...Olympus Mons, Lovely Day, Motorway to Roswell, and Navajo Know could easily have appeared on Frank's first solo effort and they would have fit just fine, I don't see that as a bad thing.
I could be wrong but I would venture to guess that many true fans would choose 1 of their favorite Pixies tunes from Trompe. There is definitely a solid group of possible choices. Trompe, Planet, Eiffel, Sad Punk, U-Mass, Distance Equals......solid stuff...
Sad Punk is an extremely underrated Pixies tune for my money... |
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offerw
* Dog in the Sand *
South Africa
1264 Posts |
Posted - 02/28/2004 : 11:24:40
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| ............and the artwork on Trompe is also the best! |
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woodworm
- FB Fan -
USA
94 Posts |
Posted - 02/29/2004 : 12:34:40
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its all a matter of personal opinion
but for me its an ok record, the weakest of the pixies
but a decent record on its own
i think you can tell that this was not a band effort
kim is barely heard
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Amber X
- FB Fan -
United Kingdom
5 Posts |
Posted - 02/29/2004 : 12:53:11
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It's the album where Frank's imagination lets loose - Bossanova was kind of a gestation record in that sense. I love Bird Dream of the Olympus Mons (I stayed up all night to hear the very first airing, on John Peel) - where else have you heard such a flight of fancy so enrapturingly evoked? In terms of gut-level Pixies GRAAAGH it's obviously a bit soft, but with all great bands there are always many stages to their career (don't get me started on The Cure), and always one leading light who goes on to other things, for better or for worse (or just changes his staff, c.f. Sir Robert). Trompe Le Monde is the album where Black Francis realises his pseudonym is outdated, and as such is Frank Black's best album, because he had the band who knew him. I think the band were his perfect counterfoil, and without them he's still brilliant, but somehow ephemeral (whereas Kim's bass will haunt me till the day I die).
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Amber X
- FB Fan -
United Kingdom
5 Posts |
Posted - 02/29/2004 : 13:00:29
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ps The Amps and The Breeders vindicate my contention that K.D. is the sexiest middle-aged woman ever to have lived. ROCK!!!!
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Mr Briggs
- FB Fan -
United Kingdom
1 Posts |
Posted - 02/29/2004 : 14:33:40
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what's wrong with it?
hmm....
they never put a tracklisting on the back
that is all
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frankblackphx
= Cult of Ray =
USA
287 Posts |
Posted - 03/01/2004 : 17:09:54
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I heard that same rumor about Ozzy in the recording studio next door as well. I will probably get killed for this but Ozzy (the singer, not the actor) is my other favorite artist as well, so I found that to be really cool if the rumors were true.
I got me so down I got me a headache. |
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positivelySlime
- FB Fan -
USA
12 Posts |
Posted - 03/01/2004 : 22:13:36
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Trompe Le Monde is also my favorite Pixies record. It's weird. Real weird...even next to their other records. I always tell people who haven't heard it that its like the Super Mario Bros 2 of the Pixies albums. The odd one that doesn't really fit in with the rest, but still equally good (if not better) than all the others.
The best thing about Trompe is that it is a loud rocker. The first five songs are like one big long fist-clinching, teeth grinding, eye squinting orgasm of rock and roll. Then it chills out for a while and just gets stranger as it progresses. It is easily the best Pixies record in my opinion...it really has it all. Wad up Come On Pilgrim, Surfer Rosa, Doolittle, and Bossanova and put them in a pipe and smoke it. The high you get off it is Trompe Le Monde.
Perfect record...except for Palace of the Brine. An ok song, but it keeps this album from being flawless (for me). |
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a guy in a rover
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
535 Posts |
Posted - 03/02/2004 : 08:19:52
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I used to think that TLM was the 'weakest'(although i hate to use the word) album but the more and more i listened to it the more i appreciated it. It's fucking awesome and is up there with the rest of 'em. I think that those who don't appreciate it should sit down and just keep listening to it until they see the light. Motorway to Roswell is outta this world.
"You are the son of a mother fucker"
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Hermaphroditos
- FB Fan -
USA
20 Posts |
Posted - 03/06/2004 : 01:28:12
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Obviously, for those of you who don't like Trompe all that much, YOU HAVE NEVER BEEN IN ABSOLUTE MAD LOVE, on a summer night, with someone so close yet so far away. When you are, this album will be a Bible to you....
"Oh pity me Garuda, and turn my hands into wings" |
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fumanbru
* Dog in the Sand *
Canada
1462 Posts |
Posted - 03/06/2004 : 08:28:10
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tlm kicks ass! i would love to hear them play a fair amount of these tracks on the tour. it would be fanastic if eric drew eldman shows up for a few shows to play the keys. how about in vancouver :)
 "I joined the Cult of Frank/ and I got a free t-shirt with this dude on it." |
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thecomeons
- FB Fan -
United Kingdom
60 Posts |
Posted - 03/07/2004 : 07:38:20
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tlm took so long to record and in the end was rushed to completion. that's why some of it sounds like... "filler". the best songs were the songs that had been played in the uk tour previous to the release of it. at the time of the tour, most of the music was recorded (and infact mixed) but no words or vocals done.
i agree that fb's early stuff seems like a continuation of stuff on tlm. his high regard for and use of feldman is proof of that.
some of the tlm songs are amongst my faves, but the thing is it's one of the least-liked albums by pixies fans who were fans when the pixies were actually around. music has changed over the years, and it seems to be one of the fave albums by the fans who either weren't into music or born when they were around.
horses for courses.
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Old Neptuna
- FB Fan -
Ireland
200 Posts |
Posted - 03/07/2004 : 08:38:29
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Excellent driving CD. Have done many a mile to TLM - mostly without crashing.
Crashed to FB - TOTY last year - totaly wiped out my poor van. I don't blame Frank though, just these shit Irish roads.
"I have seen the neighbours dog, and I was not afraid..." |
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begeegs
- FB Fan -
United Kingdom
81 Posts |
Posted - 03/11/2004 : 03:35:25
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I agree with those in here that say that it's their best. I don't care what their relationships were at the time. It is heavy and looser than others for some reason.
Planet of Sound is absoultely brilliant and the lyrical content is hilarious. It half makes me wonder if he was referring to his practice space at the time (I believe they were rehearsing next to Ozzy and other metal bands in LA).
I love Distance Equals and only found out recently that it was once part of the excellent Subbacultacha (which also has excellent lyrics about what I think is making fun of music videos).
UMass is excellent and a simple song.
The only song that I could do without is the cover of the Jesus and Mary Chain tune, but I am picky. |
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
9168 Posts |
Posted - 03/11/2004 : 11:57:01
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Regarding "Subbacultcha," a light-skinned woman in a gothic get-up seems to be a common thread in many of Frank's songs: Is She Weird, Nadine, etc. And don't forget that he met his true love "down at the nightclub." Could be about his ex-wife, although I doubt they ever actually ran drugs on a Panamanian schooner. Doesn't mean it isn't also making fun of music videos, though.
And "Head On" is cool. Much more energy and enthusiasm than the original.
Join the Culf of Buttoms / It's the Alerican way. |
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ShakeyShake
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
1058 Posts |
Posted - 03/11/2004 : 12:45:04
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It's always escaped me what exactly a "Panamanian schooner" is.
"I joined the Cult of this guy / 'cause they took my other picture away |
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Tromp Le Monde : What's wrong with it?
